real_savings wrote:LP was at its apex when they had May Thai, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Cindy Shine, Ria Sunn (now retired). Other than some of the South American girls, I don't even click on the trailers. Really don't like the abusive stuff, its too extreme for me, and the girls take couple of days to couple of weeks to recover from the trauma. If you don't look after the assets they move on
real_savings wrote:Ria Sunn (now retired).
jjwhite1985 wrote:This has been the case for a while now, probably a year or more? Gonzo shut down and Giorgio retired, and these were the two main LP studios at one point.
But ultimately it's not so easy to make mainstream porn these days, mostly due to economic reasons. Predominantly the change in the porn market (a shift towards a "content creator" economy through personal platforms engaging directly with fans, without the need for a mainstream studio and all the headaches that go with it), LP has lost a number of its biggest stars to OF for example, Kristy Black and Jolee Love the most notable.
Add to this the increasingly unfavorable economic conditions affecting the global economy - big inflation over the last few years, the cost of everything increasing (and naturally girls' fees as well), but many porn fans not necessarily being willing to pay a lot more for their porn.
All of this just means mainstream studios need to find new ways to survive, which means lower outlay on scenes and reduced production, but the reality is mainstream porn will never be as big as it used to be.
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I think the South American drive is partly fuelled by a larger pool of talents, and reduced costings there.
Ultimately, the studios and the people still have to find a financial model that works for them, and can make a decent profit.
misangrenegra2 wrote:jjwhite1985 wrote:This has been the case for a while now, probably a year or more? (...)
Gonzo shut down but is not Luis who manage Yummy studio? is just that he took the bussiness to south america on, i guess, the cost are lower but has a new bunch of guys and, more interesting, of new girls on is exploring new stuff as puking and food play.
Giorgio delegated the managment to Andrew who clearly reduced the number of releases per week.
Yummy, Mambo and EKS has a similar activity, also natasha still shooting content, as before but is not the same for LTP, NF, P4F or VK that clearly are gone (the first three), and VK doesn't release as before.
I really think that a reduction of production makes sense if we thought the rivality and the number of customers, i always thought that the offer was too much of the possible demand here..is a guessing, i don't have the numbers but were a couple of years with the 6-7 main studios releasing new scenes per day with the prices rising and the inflation.. how could be possible sell everything to everyone?
misangrenegra2 wrote:I really think that a reduction of production makes sense....
dap-addict wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:I really think that a reduction of production makes sense....
Economically for studios maybe yes.
For me as a user I have too little scenes with sex acts I need to buy very often on a day-by-day basis.![]()
For the girls I see more and more of them switching to escort tours with often heavy traveling. I cant imagine it's good to have no option left to earn what they need with porn only.
misangrenegra2 wrote:Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios...
dap-addict wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios...
As I said, rising living costs lead to less scenes sold and studios reduced output or stopped completely, some of them driven out of the market by that sudden TKT price rise of April 2022.
Now from users POV if you fellow all those fights over side-fetishes like cloths, barefoot, food-porn etc. I doubt users even want to support all core studios, but they still need their porn fix. And you can see that studios specialize for certain market segments. Questions is is there enough choice on days like today (with 3 single annals (1 of them naked) and 1 DAP scene) or couldn they sell more if they would offer more?
real_savings wrote:LP was at its apex when they had May Thai, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Cindy Shine, Ria Sunn (now retired). Other than some of the South American girls, I don't even click on the trailers. Really don't like the abusive stuff, its too extreme for me, and the girls take couple of days to couple of weeks to recover from the trauma. If you don't look after the assets they move on
misangrenegra2 wrote:dap-addict wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios...
As I said, rising living costs lead to less scenes sold and studios reduced output or stopped completely, some of them driven out of the market by that sudden TKT price rise of April 2022.
Now from users POV if you fellow all those fights over side-fetishes like cloths, barefoot, food-porn etc. I doubt users even want to support all core studios, but they still need their porn fix. And you can see that studios specialize for certain market segments. Questions is is there enough choice on days like today (with 3 single annals (1 of them naked) and 1 DAP scene) or couldn they sell more if they would offer more?
About first paragraph, the situation didn't change too much, in economic terms (a little bit better for the users as i wrote in the trump victory's thread), so would be normal to the studios keep the current situation of the productions.
About the second one; I consider too the cloths or barefoot as side-fetishes but i don't think that are something "too much decisive", puke/food play, even pee, are more strong fetishes that catch an audience of an specific market, the result is how piss is so common when was extremly rare and how food porn has an specific series in yummy studio but..people only buy one specific fetish? i don't think so, are a part of the anal core here and the last question i think you answered yourself: If the studios are in the current situation because they reduced the production when before offered more scenes than today.. makes sense comeback to release 1-2 or 3 scenes per day, satisfying particular fetishes, for each studio because they could sell more? I don't think so.
Zeok, here I can give you an all-clear: EKS will soon resume their shootings in Bukarest.Zeok wrote:...if EKS disappears from Bucharest, as seems likely according to DAP-Addict (Apparently I wasted my entire time on my biggest post to improve EKS scenes)
dap-addict wrote:add: Btw, I never claimed EKS Bukarest would disappear! I was just really worried about their long and longer Spring break. And in case of doubt: I pay an EKS subscription and as you write, indeed, they show naked girls during their gangbangs.
BR_Razor86 wrote:You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .
lp_stars wrote:BR_Razor86 wrote:You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .
fuck yourself you stupid retard
lp_stars wrote:BR_Razor86 wrote:You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .
shut the fuck up and drink a bowl of piss! Nobody asked you about your opinion, you moron.
hyapet wrote:lp_stars wrote:fuck yourself you stupid retard
There is truth in what he says - but you have to take some nuance to it.
Two dudes rubbing their cocks in a hole really is kind of gay - and there are indeed a lot of people for whom that is a turn off and they will never buy the scenes because of it.
But that's still a fraction of the total number of people who steer way clear of this place because of all the gross out shit (pissing particularly).
So, he's not wrong theoretically, just technically.
99.5% of the market buys dry content, in some form or another, or content that doesn't involve pissing or pooing or going to the bathroom on people. Because 99.5% of the market aren't that mentally ill.
Even though it's slathered in almost every scene on this site (because the scenes that shoot for the site are automatically associated with pissing anyways - so might as well grab the sales from the audience that actually does come here) - that doesn't reflect the wider industry as a whole.
If you stood up in any public forum - and said, "Peeing on people is gross," nearly 100% of the people present would agree with you.
If you stood up at the hovel of the mentally-ill and socially dysfunctional and said, "Peeing on people is gross," the overwhelming response would be that you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about.
But those people are still mentally ill and socially dysfunctional. And they only do represent a tiny fraction of society overall. You just happened to stumble into their hide-out, is all.
sharpsharp wrote:Puke is disgusting and I hide it from my feed.
There is no way i'm buying this shit
ElJab78 wrote:sharpsharp wrote:Puke is disgusting and I hide it from my feed.
There is no way i'm buying this shit
Agreed on the puke being disgusting. I wish Yummy would release some of the P-Slut scenes without the puke as some of those scenes has some really great performers.
dap-addict wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:I really think that a reduction of production makes sense....
Economically for studios maybe yes.
For me as a user I have too little scenes with sex acts I need to buy very often on a day-by-day basis.![]()
For the girls I see more and more of them switching to escort tours with often heavy traveling. I cant imagine it's good to have no option left to earn what they need with porn only.
hyapet wrote:But that's still a fraction of the total number of people who steer way clear of this place because of all the gross out shit (pissing particularly).
BR_Razor86 wrote:[mentally ill] huh? lets scratch that off the insult list .i bet you think your wrote a good one . rite?
since we are in a extreme/hardcore porn forum All users on this forum are considered perverted and mentally ill in some way. some less and some more . so theres not much difference between us . with public standards you talking about you also mentally ill since you enjoy watching girls getting gangbaned and taking 2 or 3 cocks in her ass at same time .
the only difference is im not shy about my fetishes even in public and im not even joking .
i really like to know where the fuck did you get that 99.5% from!? you kinda funny . here is your credit
jjwhite1985 wrote:Perhaps I can introduce you to the concept of a target audience? LP is a hardcore site. Extreme porn and hardcore content has always been its corner of the market. Even before it was LP they were stuffing whipped cream up girls asses for sineplex. Targeting a specific area of a market is how the majority of businesses operate. LP isn't brazzers or vixen - it never has been and never will be. I don't like pee and I don't like puke, I avoid those scenes and buy the dry versions. But LP caters to that area of the market, and their production is still *significantly* higher than virtually every mainstream vanilla studio out there. So, can't be doing too badly can they, relative to others.
But sure, if only they could get rid of the hardcore stuff and only hire supermodels to finger themselves then they could compete with the likes of OF. Maybe when you're done here you can join kink and offer them pearls of wisdom like how they'd be so much more popular if only they didn't shoot so much bdsm. Maybe join throated too, surely they're filming too much head? Then you could subject their patrons to the same pompous idiocy that you inflict on anybody here who's unfortunate enough to lay eyes on it.
rakdobi wrote:This is probably the worst year in the history of porn. I thought that in the wake of the war between Russia and Ukraine there would be a flood of amateur young Russian girls who would want to go into the industry even just for a few scenes to make a quick buck and would even be willing to do brutal scenes like in 2008 but it turns out that it's only getting much worse.
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