stockard692 wrote:Your comment makes me smile (I mean this in a positive way). Actually, France, Germany and Italy have plenty of sexy women, they just don't do porn (even before OF), let alone “extreme” porn. But AVLP's goldmine has always been Eastern Europe. The Timea Bella, Tina Hot, Kristy Black breed of performers.
Yeah, but if you've ever been to a place like Germany, you would understand that ... inbreeding has really hurt them. Throughout the ages. Any of the other European countries as well.
Key signs? Exaggerated features. Large noses. Eyes whose shape doesn't fit in with the rest of the features on their skull. Women with men's shoulders. Men with women's shoulders. Either having no tits - or having gigantic tits that just turn into a flesh flood racing towards their crotch by the time they're twenty years old. Either extremely skinny or extremely square like.
"Tired features" - the woman's face has a look as if it's been the 200th one pumped out of a machine at the factory. It's less a piece of marble beauty and more a plastic mold that's been slightly melted by staying in the extreme hot sun for too long. The women carrying these features looks, of course, almost identical to her sisters, and to her mother, and to her mother's sister, and just ...
yuck.In North America, when European immigrants were still coming over, almost all of their kids lined up at one place and one place alone. The plastic surgeon's office. Because the natural, smooth, beautifully skin-toned beauty of their North American piers at school were leaving their large-nosed, gigantic-jawed, tiny-breasts at the very bottom of the dating market.
So, no. The majority of European women
aren't beautiful. The vast majority. Let me rephrase that. The vast majority of European women
AREN'T beautiful. Well, more adequately, the vast majority of
Western European women. Eastern European countries (like Russia, but so many others) encouraged immigration from the Western Europeans from the past few centuries. That new blood in the pool really gave them a booster shot.
There are towns in Germany where, in the phone-book, there are only
two names in a town with 10,000 people inside of it. The mayors go on pilgrimages to try to encourage other people to move into their towns and cities.
Like, no. Even outside of the qualifier (which is fair) that Western European women have better options (and upbringings) than to get involved in porn, that doesn't make a large pool of attractive people in society.
The vast majority of European stock (especially after two devastating World Wars as well, which gobbled up the healthiest men) is
pretty, really, terribly ugly.At least in comparison to what's coming out of the States and Russia. Which is why the traditional
European studios such as LP always went to Russian and American women to fill their scenes.
Because they wanted people to actually buy them.
stockard692 wrote:magizi87 wrote:Piss and DAP drove beautiful women off this platform.
That's just the simple truth.
Go to ANY other porn webstie that stays away from this horseshit, they are filled with beauties in their PRIME.
I agree especially on the last sentence. Any other porn site doesn't have this much trouble finding beauties in their prime (and also has lower subscription prices). I don't think it's primarily a DAP/wet issue. Especially now that so many US girls are shooting wet content, even if on niche sites like Hookup Hotshot (to which I am currently a subscriber) or on their OF/MV pages.
Holding European models to American standards is
insane. I already went through the fifteen-hundred years of inbreeding thing before - but, safe to say - America doesn't have that problem.
You'll also notice how lots of studios over there shoot
a lot less porn than they used to. It's been something like over a month since Castingcouch HD released a scene. And four out of their five last girls haven't really been all that pretty at all. MILFs are sneaking in there now. What used to be an endless stream of insanely hot girls lining up for shoots has turned into a scattering of scenes released in a single year, with perhaps three to four outstanding beauties between them.
And why is that? Well, because the studio is part of the larger Skeet network, which no doubt affects their production in the same way as shooting for Pornbox/Analvids affects the individual studios under their umbrella. I will return to this part in this next quote of yours.
stockard692 wrote:It's that LP European studios stopped scouting and searching for new girls. Gio and Angelo are just fine shooting Anne Deville and Veronica Leal for the 200th time and taking from time to time girls who Natasha Teen or Oscar MamboPerv scouted in South America than looking for someone new, or paying a ticket for a hot girl (outside the few usual ones) from the US. Good old times Gonzo and Gio would had no problem to invest some money and bring Hazel Moore or Chloe Amour on LP just to elevate the brand and attract new audiences. They currently do not really care about their product, they are just fine as long as the regular buyers don't care if the girl is ugly and trashy or if Anna Deville's 100th scene is identical to the 99th or 98th. You can tell they are getting lazy from a lot of elements, not just the girls.
I think we have to remember that times have changed, not just for GIO or Gonzo, but for Analvids/Pornbox as a whole. How so?
Well, now there are something like twenty different studios that are releasing content
every day. All these "golden age" days (and they were indeed fantastic) was back when
Legalporno was releasing something like three or four scenes a day. If that.
Analvids as a whole probably asked GIO and Gonzo to back off a bit to give room to the new comers like Natasha Teen and Erika Korti Studios and (back then) NRX. They probably crunched the numbers and found out that once you release more than two absolutely banger scenes in a day - the sales start to diminish. Essentially, the product starts to cannibalize itself. I mean, there aren't a lot of people who compulsively buy a ton of porn (especially at certain prices). What they typically do, based on almost 99% of the comments I see here, is invest in the absolutely top notch scenes that tickle their particular fancy.
So, on the days when there is an Anne De Ville release, even if she's done the exact same kind of scene dozens of times before, she's going to be taking a lot of the overall ticket sales that day. Doesn't make much sense to release anything else. Especially when it kind of disappears quick on the front page. Same goes for Baby Kxtten, or Sasha Paige (back then), or a lot of the performers who have their die-hard fans locked and loaded right here.
With something like more than six to eight times the studios that existed as before, the onus on every individual studio gets lessened somewhat, especially when the new ones (again) are trying to make a name for themselves. Natasha Teen Productions is a perfect example of that. She's hitting it out of the park with her productions. Who wants to release a beautiful DAP scene on the same day that a Hayek twins double BBC DAP scene gets released?
And when there are tons of insanely hot pretty-whitish girls willing to do incredibly hardcore stuff in South America for cheap - then who wants to really go farming for low-tier beauty girl's with an incredibly higher pay rate in Europe?
In a lot of ways - you have to see how the circumstances affect these folks. It doesn't all just come down to the willpower that Giorgio supposedly decided to suddenly throw away one day.
stockard692 wrote:Buck_Meister wrote:What's that have to do with OF content cannibalizing DP/DAP/TAP releases???
Proves single-handedly that OF is actually irrelevant and a BS pretense for your slowdown
I agree, I am sick of the OF excuse. Not that OF phenomenon does not exist, but I'm pretty sure Czech republic, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia or Ukraine are plenty of hot girls who would make more money from one month of porn than from 2 years of OF. Most recent hot pornstars in the US are coming from OF, eg. Shrooms, Katie Cai, Eva Generosi, stunning milf Serenity Cox, i.e OF was their entry in the porn industry and not the opposite.
If you think girls operate based on the same logic as men - I have to inform you of something.
Many of the 500,000 OF accounts that were created were created by girls who
specifically didn't want to get into porn.Not only this - but the OF label provided, however briefly, a "mass cover" for all the girls doing it, because, well, if there are so many girls doing it, are you going to judge them all? There's been a concentrated effort on behalf of conservative media to try to shame and bring reasonable logic into the OF debate - all of which goes up against this wall of, "Well, my friends are all doing it, so ..."
Which is what girls respond especially viscerally to. Almost instinctually. Community. If all the girl's will judge another girl for
not doing OF - well, it's easy to see which station that train will eventually end at.
Not only this, but the imagination of these girls are all filled with the stories they see of the 0.0001% of OF girls who've got enough pay-pigs lined up to fill a bacon factory, who have their finances taken care of for life, and who, maybe, at the most, have a single nipple showing somewhere on the Internet. They don't catch how absolutely psychopathic these girls are - in their capacity and capability to not only manipulate men, but to be smart enough to manipulate algorithms and search engines and different social media platforms and ...
everything they do to achieve that success."Duh! I can pretend to like guys for tons of money!" all the girls think. And, well, the community to tell them, "No, that's stupid, put your shirt back on," doesn't exist.
What does exist however, is, to a certain degree, the shame or the absolute visibility of them taking two gigantic black baseball bat sized cocks up their rear. That's not why they started an OF page. So, while there certainly are girls that can be farmed from OF, the absolute top tier beauties know, if not their actual worth, then their perceived possible worth, and that keeps all the best performers out there away from places like AV/LP/PB.
But -
it doesn't end there. Because, of course not! You also have these girls still out there sitting in their bedrooms stroking a gigantic bong between their still clothed massive breasts - and that's it - there really, literally, is no one out there that's hotter than them. They are at the peak of that pyramid. And they are the ones that every AV/LP/PB performer gets judged and ranked against.
Are the girls that
are shooting scenes as hot today as they were five to six years ago? Many of them, I must say, aren't. Some still are. Some are even hotter (i.e: Baby Kxtten).
But ... given the environment that exists all around ... all of which feeds into itself ... holding AV/PB or any of it's studios responsible for it doesn't really hold that much water. And again - you have to take the European/America divide into account yet again.
America is a lot more "liberal" in an increasingly off-the-cliff we're-dying-on-this-ledge kind of way. Europe still has a lot of the traditional values that, albeit eroded by American media from a distance, not really as much as within the belly of the beast that is the United States themselves.
So, encouraging a young nineteen year old blonde haired blue eyed girl who never had a Dad and went to a school that taught them that white people are horrible to jump on a gigantic black cock isn't all that difficult. Minimum encouragement is required. Whereas in Europe, although things are certainly changing, they haven't deep-dived off that cliff just yet.
As I said - there are a lot of things to consider here. Even more, really. But for the sake of brevity, we'll leave it at that for now.