Avoiding painful anal: Set performance tutorial for LP girls

[dap-addict]

Seraph, just check the gifs above!
cg = cowgirl
rc = reverse cowgirl
koc = king of clubs

[dap-addict]

Time to revive this tread after re-watching Athena Rouses DAPbreakin' from 5mt ago: Here most experienced stud Bruno tries to correct her cgDAP position just sitting on that sofa because both DAP-ing studs fail to fix her back while she struggles:
Arching her back would ease her pain, but Bruno isnt effective ofc.

Here: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1081893 (LTP392)

[dap-addict]

Btw, BTS of that DAPbreakin' shows that footage from a different angle, but unfortunately I cant gif it. Footage shows way better how Athena is struggling during all that cgDAP train to keep a more camera favorable position. She should move closer to the sofa back, but is too absorbed to realize it and nobody helps her. First and foremost it would be the directors job actually!

[AnalGooner7]

Find it funny and interesting how much analysis you guys have put in. It’s good to hear, but I do just prefer “big black cock goes in tight 18 year olds arse hole.”

[dap-addict]

This cgDAPbreakin' didnt work for position reasons:

Romanian rookie Eva Johnson hunches her back to evade initial insertion pain. Vinny anchoring tries to fix her back, but EE's help would be needed. Eva fails and this 2016 trial stays her only DAP she ever performed. It's mainly EE to blame because he has to fix her and make her cross that thin line between lust and pain.

sz1156: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/30740

[dap-addict]

Instead of helping the girl to get her booking done properly very soon both actors let it just go and position rund out of hand:

[dap-addict]

Skipping through that scene I missed the first cgDAP trial in the middle of that video. Eva Johnson is all in all performing eagery and sure no drama, but EE is behaving just hopeless by not even trying to push Evas back down to make that DAP work nicely, also for camera:
Eva is struggling a bit, but no drama at all. She'd dap harder for sure!

[dap-addict]

Its always nice to see Veronica Leals professionality and anal talent when going into ideal cgDAP position for camera and thus also her user eyes:
Ofc initial anal may hurt and prop girl to try evasion, but porn work requires bent back for a better view and girl has to transfer her mind into DAPlust state if she wanna be good. Mind is first, body fellows!

Here: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1693012 (GIO2841)

[dap-addict]

AGO's Analwars with Little Chloe is a good example of how not to do it - and effective cgDAP position correction with bent back and upright position:

Surprised Angelo Godshack lets LC evade in lay-down position:
Ofc its easier to dap that way, but its against good camera view.


Only during 2nd take Brian and Mark correct girl to bent back upright:
Better trust in girls ability to transform initial pain into DAPlust!

[dap-addict]

This cgDAPbreakin' didnt work for position reasons:

Romanian rookie Eva Johnson hunches her back to evade initial insertion pain.

There's only one way back hunching in cgDAP works out very well: DAPgasm!
Here is the BTS of GIO1856 showing Stacy Bloom loosing control over her position and all in the best way pornography can get from a girl:
Not sure how many times she got off during those 30secs, I didnt ask her in time, but she told me none of her on-set orgasm she ever faked - and this is very obvious here because a pro like her would still bend her back otherwise.

DAPlust at its very best is here on BTS and here in the cut GIO scene version:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217222 (XF008)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/216718 (GIO1856)

[dap-addict]

Btw, Michael Fly provides Stacy with yet another anal orgasm straight after Mike Chapman breaks up that cgDAP position. My guts say she got a very nice reward from both! But ofc it wouldn't work if Stacy Bloom wouldn't let herself completely into these scenes!

[dap-addict]

Its always nice to see Veronica Leals professionality and anal talent when going into ideal cgDAP position for camera and thus also her user eyes:
Ofc initial anal may hurt and prop girl to try evasion, but porn work requires bent back for a better view and girl has to transfer her mind into DAPlust state if she wanna be good. Mind is first, body fellows!

In the same way, but because performed early in porn career simply perfect: This is one of the very best cgDAPbreakin' I've ever watched:
Girl seemingly runs away from DAP by lowering her back but than corrects her position for the iconic ideal upright cgDAP bent back.

GIO906: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/35365
Stacy Bloom in her offical DAPbreakin of early 2019.

[dap-addict]

What we have to understand is that for a porn rookie hunching her back when studs dig too deep or in a bad angle during cgDAP is a natural reaction, which is only later in her career suppressed for camera's sake:
Important however is to correct position at once like Stacy does here!

For me those porn fans who enjoy the pain of a girl are mentally deranged, sorry to say. Pain is nothing I'd wish another human being and certainly no girl who didnt hurt me but just does her job for me to enjoy. But fans are different ofc, I dont judge, I just say I dont get it.

[ajjustiniano]

6th cgDAP position take for Silvia Soprano already and she still struggles with position basics, even with her legs.
Makes me think they should have invested a few minutes maybe to show the rookie around a bit first.
Its not even DAP specific, but general porn sex knowledge.

(GIO1580)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/153887

Silvia's asshole was leaking a bit of shit in that scene too during the double anal, so maybe she was a bit inexperienced.

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Pressing down seems to help her take it:

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ajjustiniano

[dap-addict]

Just stumbled on another really well-done DAPbreakin' about 1000 GIO scenes later in 2021: Dalia Dark performs cgDAP in ideal upright bent back position, upper stud gets once too deep and she reacts with evasion move hunching her back very soon.
BTS it looks really good! Have to check it in the cut final version, still.

BTS: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/99277
GIO1955: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/72461

Final scene is way short at 48min only, seems like they had to edit a lot or Dalia Dark wasnt able to perform more anal towards the end. I'll have to check that first. This said crucial cgDAP looks really good.

[dap-addict]

cf.
I dont see a problem, but maybe cgDAP with Dylan was edited out, at least his contribution ia missing.
Dalia Dark performs rc, cg and scissors DAP for 5-6min each and all 3 positions work well.

[dap-addict]

There's a very nice instructive cgDAP with Polish Ava @ AGO with her asking Dozer to go slowly into her and him answering way sulky he exactly knew how to dap best. An insightful funny footage I haven't realized when watching this the day of release!
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/353550

[isis666xxx]

the combination of pain & pleasure is fun

sadism & masochism are super fun & primal

like this:

[dap-addict]

No, studs care for the girls wellbeing is much better!

Here is GL702 with Candy Scott and she has initial problems to perform cgDAP due to an already quite irritated inner tissue after little anal workout, ie. probabely resulting from her last scene or an in-between booking on her anal break day. Position is fine, but Candy's ass isnt in good working condition.

Here 2nd cgDAP take with Little Maly: They cut the first DAP insertion and now also second DAP insertion she has problems, but luckily nods in approval to carry on and get that DAP done.

[dap-addict]

6th cgDAP position take for Silvia Soprano already and she still struggles with position basics, even with her legs.
Makes me think they should have invested a few minutes maybe to show the rookie around a bit first.
Its not even DAP specific, but general porn sex knowledge.

(GIO1580)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/153887

Pressing down seems to help her take it:

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Pressing down helps many girls even if it first accentuates initial insertion pain, but it's a move experienced studs knowing the girl they work with can do in a good way for the girl, other studs cant.

Look at the same problem with Venezuelan Candy Bloss in her first come-back DAP after 1 long year porn break:
Anchor stud holds her down in a vice move, but upper stud doenst dare to support anchor and cgDAP position falls apart because girl evades.

[dap-addict]

Very rarely doggy DAP insertion hurts the girl, this is why that position is a popular DAP workout start. However, in her 4th DAP scene Brazilian Honey Ob is in pain:
Perseu, please dont hurt my sweet uber-cute Honey!
It's a mental problem here, entirely in girls head: You see it just before upper stud goes in to start DAP-ing, girl looks weary, afraid of something.

Preparing mentally for DAP performance is extremely important, physical preparation alone is crucial, but not enough!

OB358: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1774041

[dap-addict]

It's a mental problem here, entirely in girls head...

My bad, I stand corrected: Doggy is Honey Obs 3rd DAP position and she went out of missionary DAP with a pretty irritated inner tissue. You see she's uneasy about next DAP position. Un-easy, but not unwilling! Result still is her head blokes her and her body, too!
Look at her pre-DAP gape! Doenst look bad, but girl is uneasy and if feeling like that she should have asked for re-lubeing first.

Performing DAP for many rookies is a delicate mix of head and body, psyche and physiology. Porn girls do a job and want to earn money and get re-booked. But they have to learn to put their physical needs first on one hand, but also know their body well enough to forecast what they can put up with in oder to secure a smooth shooting process. They cant expect directors or co-worker studs always to see what they need. They have to take care of it themselves!

[dap-addict]

Performing DAP for many rookies is a delicate mix of head and body, psyche and physiology. Porn girls do a job and want to earn money and get re-booked.

Why I post this first wrong assessment of myself? - Because it's so easy for fans and users to take for granted what these girls perform for us. And seldom we are aware what price these girls pay to have studios deliver what we ask for!
In OB358 doggy DAP is third position after an around 5min DAP workout in spoon and missionary. They soon break it up and opt for single doggy. Big Jahman delivers a hot powerfuck, girl goes along well and its as good as DAP basically because its intense.
And the girl? - At the end of that doggy fuck session her inner tissue is really heavily irritated! She'll need more than 1 day anal break probabely, if she has an intense booking schedule she might loose 1-2 anal scenes, maybe even 1 well-payed DAP. It would be 3 average monthly salaries gone to the drain!
Now we are @ Mambo Perv and we know Oscar will be understanding and try his best to be flexible. With her BF she'll probabely have pussy sex only next few days or she wont hook-up with him until she's healed out completely. I dont know her personal situation, I just consider all this because compassionate and responsible fans also need to think holistically.

[paobroncix01]

Look at her pre-DAP gape! Doenst look bad, but girl is uneasy and if feeling like that she should have asked for re-lubeing first.

The pre-DAP gape is showing that she had a good preparation, but the director and her co-performers should have re-lubed the model before the action, also if the model did not ask for it. Specially when they are working with an inexperienced model, because she is trusting on the experience of the director then.

They cant expect directors or co-worker studs always to see what they need. They have to take care of it themselves!

This is a matter of experience of the model I think. When the model is at the start of her career and inexperienced its more difficult for her.

[dap-addict]

It's at times hard to watch an un-experienced girl performing DAP!
Girl bites her fingers from initial DAP insertion pain!

Vicky Menage is a hot ebony model, but she has to stop evading studs DAP-ing and to get her back curved instead to withhold and enjoy an intense cgDAP-ing!

Performing cgDAP is difficult at first for 90% of girls, but because it's the most popular DAP position with users girls simply have to manage that position if they want a long-lasting porn career. Good experienced actors being compassionate with girls needs but also understanding camera and pornography as such are needed to help them with it. Ed Junior does usually a good job!


This 2nd real DAP workout with Ed and the new Yummy DAP scene profi Max Maranho (helping the girls with 50+ DAP workouts in 10mt) of early 2024: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1097069

[dap-addict]

Girl bites her fingers from initial DAP insertion pain!

This gif I must have forgot to cut!
I can do it later.
Poor girl!


On contrast here we have another rookie DAP, also her 2nd, and despite Ciara Riviera being in-experienced at performing on a porn set pretty obviously, but despite a stiff back out of fear of pain and concentration to perform good instead of just relaxing, she manages her 1st cgDAP insertion well and transgresses into DAPlust fast and easily:
GIO844 (2018): https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/34704

It's so much about mental preparation, anal talent and private anal experience - but sure also experienced studs helping the girls!

[dap-addict]

Btw, Angelo Godshack and Tiny Tom working with Ciara Riviera are smaller ofc than Ed and Max working with Vicky Menage. But size in early DAPs is so often more of a mental factor often than a physiological one.

Still DAP is a mix of the girls mind, the girls ass and the studs quality help with their tools inside her ass, but mainly outside. For each girl percentage is different, for some their own mind is 90%!

[dap-addict]

Poor Kyaa Chimera in GIO870...
Must have been a hell painful in that cat bench position!
She also looks so tight, muscles fighting against two dragons in her ass...

(more in-deaph later, but like this cgdap can't work fine!)

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Btw, luckily for Kyaa Neeo not rock hard once again, but it sure hurt her badly anyway. Bad news for compassionate users!
This said, she dint stop the scene, no cuts here either, she wanted it and I do respect her free will. Kyaa went a truly big extra-mile for that 1st DAP of hers here, though.

Later is 5 1/2 years!
Just rewatched this 1st cgDAP with Kyaa and it still hurts to watch.

[dap-addict]

This gif shows cause and effect very good: Dick goes deeper past a certain point if pain tolerance and girl performing DAP in camera friendly bowed position starts to hunch her back in reaction.
Stud fucks less deep and girl gets back into ideal cgDAP position.
Now this is Kate Gross DAPbreakin' scene and she's a rookie still, although a very talented one. Later on during fellow-up DAPs she's supposed to hold on and transfer to DAPlust by controlling her body. Maybe studs have to help not to hunch her back by pressing her down.

[dap-addict]

Sorry, this is the scene link:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29638 (GIO026)

[paobroncix01]

This gif shows cause and effect very good: Dick goes deeper past a certain point if pain tolerance and girl performing DAP in camera friendly bowed position starts to hunch her back in reaction.
Stud fucks less deep and girl gets back into ideal cgDAP position.
Maybe studs have to help not to hunch her back by pressing her down.

When the model is holding the backwards arched position the studs can go deeper, this goes for DAP but also for DVP. But when they are going too deep for the model, it is a natural reaction of her to hunch her back, to stop them from going deep.
Experienced models can hold their position better as starting models of course, because they can take the studs deeper without problems. It is a matter of confidence also.
And probably also a matter of natural talent, some starting new models we see holding this position already all from the start, all by themselves. And other models dont, they have to be constantly corrected in their position by the studs and the director.

[paobroncix01]

Sorry, this is the scene link:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29638 (GIO026)

This is an amazing scene, I didnt know it.. thx.

[dap-addict]

paobroncix, you may wanna check the GIO26 BTS also for edited out DVP scissors footage!
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=15645&start=760#p1322248

[paobroncix01]

paobroncix, you may wanna check the GIO26 BTS also for edited out DVP scissors footage!
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=15645&start=760#p1322248

back in 2015 DVP was very rare, so this is some special footage. Too bad she didnt want to continue the DVP scene as Giorgio requested.

[dap-addict]

Here is another typically difficult cgDAP start-over after 2y of porn break: Of course at first DAP insertion hurts, but that Yummy food play helps getting Jenifer Lol distracted a bit and than finally perform her first cgDAP position:
Such a nice smile!

Here: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1801385

[dap-addict]

I'll have to check this rcDAP closer: We have a really intense first rcDAP insertion reaction by Alice Maze, but I really hope Rocco Maltesi didnt tear her with this very fast entry!


This scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1063477

[xxxEVOxxx]

Here is another typically difficult cgDAP start-over after 2y of porn break: Of course at first DAP insertion hurts, but that Yummy food play helps getting Jenifer Lol distracted a bit and than finally perform her first cgDAP position:
Such a nice smile!

Here: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1801385

The girl, Jennifer did very well in the scene. She delivered.