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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby simone.urbinati » Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:15 pm

ArcanaCaelestia wrote:I am bored so I will speculate based on the scene codes. I might be totally wrong about everything.

GIO2844 - Nicole Murkovski scene/start of serbian gig
GIO2845 - missing
GIO2849 - missing
GIO2852 - missing
GIO2853 - stacy bloom
GIO2854 - missing
GIO2855 - missing
GIO2856 - Vitoria Beatriz scene/possibly end of serbian gig since it is followed by some other unrelated scenes


So possibly 5 scenes might still be up there for release.

We had:

Ally Horny DAP (1 scene)
Nicole Murkovski DP (1 scene)
Lilith Liber ir Anal, ir DP (2 scenes)
Margo Von Teese, ir Anal, DVP (2 scenes)

So based on this I would expect:

Nicole Murkovski DAP (ir?)
Lilith Liber first DAP (she seems like she can do it)
Ally Horny 1on1 anal
Ally Horny or Nicole Murkovski (DAP) and Margo Von Teese (DP) pair scene
last slot could be anything or not even russian talent scene

I am still not convinced that Margo will do DAP since in the other scenes she were struggling to take even a single big dick in ass.



Margo doesn't want to do DAP

I hope the money changes her mind...

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby dap-addict » Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:25 pm

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ArcanaCaelestia wrote:I am still not convinced that Margo will do DAP since in the other scenes she were struggling to take even a single big dick in ass.

Margo doesn't want to do DAP

I hope the money changes her mind...

Here we have the source for GIOs comment about Russian girls: Import rules were set out clear but on spot it turned out that Margo doesnt even wanna try DAP. :( :mad:
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Postby paobroncix01 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:00 pm

dap-addict wrote:I suspect GIO got tempted by Pornbox sales algorithm favoring studios offering subscriptions like NRX and EKS. This pushed also their Russian models ofc.
This said for a long time Russian girls were some of the best performers. I actually miss these times a lot! Seems the new breed of NRX models cant really perform hard anal porn anymore, maybe due to too many tricks applied in that studio like also little or limp studs.
Just looking cute with milky-white tattoo-free skin doenst make a porn star! ;)


It was already clear that the intensity of the DAP and DVP action at NRX was not the same as for example GIO and AGO, also maybe the size of the studs is not the same. But still it was very admirable that NRX got almost all their models to perform DVP and DAP. Already right at the start of their careers, even the teenage models. That is quite an achievement for them. Performing for GIO is a step up for those models, it might take some training for them to perform DAP for GIO.

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:04 pm

I am not even raving that much about Margo DAP. There were other uncharted territories for Margo too: make her into ATM machine, make her rim male performers, make her slurp semen out out of other girls asshole or of her own. And if non of this has happened I would simply blame GIO studio for lacking creativity since I would assume they would have at least some bargaining chip.
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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby pomegrante » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:33 pm

seedfeeder wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.


Completely agree. ruzzki models are mostly terrible performers and a complete waste of time and money.


The current crop of Russian models I can agree with, but from about 2016/19 LP was at it's peak mostly because of Russian models. I bought more scenes with Russian girls than any other nationally, Anya Akulova, Alita Angel, Angie Moon, Dominica Phoenix, Sofi Goldfinger, Crystal Greenvelle, Olivia Devine, Monika Wild & Selvaggia. In the last two or three years I have bought one scene featuring a Russian model, they just don't have that star quality anymore.

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby Chimpy.677 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:19 pm

pomegrante wrote:
seedfeeder wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.


Completely agree. ruzzki models are mostly terrible performers and a complete waste of time and money.


The current crop of Russian models I can agree with, but from about 2016/19 LP was at it's peak mostly because of Russian models. I bought more scenes with Russian girls than any other nationally, Anya Akulova, Alita Angel, Angie Moon, Dominica Phoenix, Sofi Goldfinger, Crystal Greenvelle, Olivia Devine, Monika Wild & Selvaggia. In the last two or three years I have bought one scene featuring a Russian model, they just don't have that star quality anymore.


Russian girls always have quality, the problem was the direction and male actors.

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Postby hjohjole » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:25 pm

Yeah, seriously.

Imagine for a moment that NRX was still here. Imagine they released scenes with the exact same models doing the exact same sex acts. But they used their own high quality studio set and make up, plus their own male talent.
Do you really think they would have sold badly? Do you think that the Stacy Bloom scene would have been the top selling one? No way in hell.

The fact is that GG and NRX have very different audiences with very different taste. Most people who buy NRX scenes are probably still not even aware that GG released scenes with thees girls.

Its like if you run a TV channel that for the past 5 years have shown nothing but documentary movies.
And then you look at the statistics and you see that TV channels who run action movies have much more viewers than you do.
You think to yourself "Hey i should put some action movies on my channel and then i will get more viewers to!"
So what is going to happen?
Well your audience is not going to be happy about it. They came to see documentary's. They are going to change the channel.
And what about the people who likes action movies? Well they are not aware of the movie. Why would they be looking for an action movie on the documentary channel?
They are not following you and your content to say it in modern terms.

Of course you are not going to change your audience over night after you air just one action movie. You need to do it for many many months at least before you see an impact and (hopefully) expansion of your audience.
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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby pastaga » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:59 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
dap-addict wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:It will be an opportunity for new producers, this is good for the industry

I see that, yes.
Will new producer(s) take over at least a part of your Prague studio? Or willl you just shut that whole place down?


Someone is probably taking over


I would love if Anna De Ville started directing regularly.
No matter how often but it would be sad to have only one director in Prague.

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Postby pastaga » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:01 pm

And I also hope for some special extra orgy goodbye scene(s) !
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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby hyapet » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:41 pm

hjohjole wrote:Yeah, seriously.

Imagine for a moment that NRX was still here. Imagine they released scenes with the exact same models doing the exact same sex acts. But they used their own high quality studio set and make up, plus their own male talent.
Do you really think they would have sold badly? Do you think that the Stacy Bloom scene would have been the top selling one? No way in hell.

The fact is that GG and NRX have very different audiences with very different taste. Most people who buy NRX scenes are probably still not even aware that GG released scenes with thees girls.

Its like if you run a TV channel that for the past 5 years have shown nothing but documentary movies.
And then you look at the statistics and you see that TV channels who run action movies have much more viewers than you do.
You think to yourself "Hey i should put some action movies on my channel and then i will get more viewers to!"
So what is going to happen?
Well your audience is not going to be happy about it. They came to see documentary's. They are going to change the channel.
And what about the people who likes action movies? Well they are not aware of the movie. Why would they be looking for an action movie on the documentary channel?
They are not following you and your content to say it in modern terms.

Of course you are not going to change your audience over night after you air just one action movie. You need to do it for many many months at least before you see an impact and (hopefully) expansion of your audience.
The expression "to little to late" comes to mind here.


Not really.

The TV analogy doesn't work because this is the Internet. I mean, not dicking around here or anything, I know it was just an analogy, but what's the main argument here?

That on the main page where all the porno scenes are listed literally twenty pixels from one another - people only go to check out their specific page - and absolutely skip all the rest of the productions that, catering to their specific tastes, have regularly in the past shared the same actresses, styles of shoots, wardrobes and sets? I'm not buying that.

The reality is a little bit more depressing.

You nailed it when you described the NRX porn production machine. That machine was so well oiled that it could lift actresses who were 7's into 8.5 territory. And it let actresses who were 9.5's or 10's absolutely unleash some of the best porn ever shot.

Take Nicole Murkovski, for example. When it comes to figure and face - she's absolutely solid. But nothing like "an absolute standout" by any means. But! ...

NRX highlighted both her youth and her gymnastic skills. Suddenly, she was dressed like, acted, and looked like the high-school cheerleader. 7.5 ----> 8.5. Next, she was surrounded by a bunch of mean looking men who absolutely made her wince with the positions they put her in. 8.5 ----> 9.25. Further complemented by her subdued nature, so she didn't have that (obnoxious) "I really want to be here and get gangbanged" attitude so many actresses have - further lending credibility and empowering the other aspects that I just listed and which were part of her shoots. On top of this! She's shooting in a large set - making her gymnastic abilities shine - with the guys banging her in all of these wild positions. 9.25 ----> 9.5.

A 7.5 ----> 9.5 through production alone is no mean feat.

When she came to shoot with Giorgio, the shot started out in a dressing room, where her skin melded right into the wallpaper, and she's calmly applying make up. The room is tiny, so the camera is forced into her face, which without the perspective of the rest of her body, isn't the best place to start with her. The energy was kind of zero from the start, and nothing really got it going. It wasn't really "her fault," she acted like she does in her scenes; subdued. But, the nature of the shoot didn't take that into account. Which, alright ... fine. But ... that 7.5 was downgraded to a 7 because, well, all of her strengths were ignored or not taken into account. Hard to do gymnastics in a small room. Or when your back is laying down on a couch.

The set was fucking awful. The lighting at the beginning was poor. It was ... just a missed opportunity.

The people who were NRX fans probably watched the trailer and didn't get that excited for it. They probably wanted to hear some word of mouth or understand more of what was in the scene. Also. Also! Girl's who've previously shot DAP and are now shooting a DP scene most likely won't sell as well. Ladder rung breaks are great profit earners - but afterwards - there's no going backwards down the rung. Those previous rungs were broken. You either stay at the same rung repeatedly and earn decent sales - or you go up. Which is why actresses like Eden Ivy haven't done DAP yet (and probably never will).

The idea that old NRX fans don't know what's going down at GIO's isn't fair. Neither is not taking into account all of the specifics of the shoots that didn't match or exceed the NRX energy. And last, but certainly not least ...

Ally Horny and Lilith Liber aren't Sasha Paige or Eva Barbie.

The Waka Waka scene with Kira Viburn showed that given the high end actress, GIO can still pull out some absolute magic.

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:43 pm

pastaga wrote:I would love if Anna De Ville started directing regularly.

+ 1
Anna has daring porn inspirations! :cool:
I can solemly promise I will buy all AdV directed scenes keeping basic GIO style up to 20TKT.

First indication as to her plans will be whether she returns from her US Summer break to Prague.
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Postby dap-addict » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:57 pm

hyapet wrote:The set was fucking awful. The lighting at the beginning was poor. It was ... just a missed opportunity.

The people who were NRX fans probably watched the trailer and didn't get that excited for it. They probably wanted to hear some word of mouth or understand more of what was in the scene. Also. Also! Girl's who've previously shot DAP and are now shooting a DP scene most likely won't sell as well.

Previousely NRX DAP-ed girls had always all bookings open at GIO as long as they sold well and continued to perform DAP.
Going lower again didnt sale ofc, but GIO granted them these DP warm-up scenes at times knowing they would loose him money, but at the same counting on higher DAP scene sales later.

Now this is exactly why GIO invited only not yet DAP-ed girls to Serbia. Plan was to present their DAPbreakin' scene @ GIO and from there move further with the full DAP-based program. For this ofc he needed really NRX-girls really willing to try DAP... and here the NRX system failed. :mad: :(
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Postby DPraved » Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:49 pm

hyapet wrote:
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You nailed it when you described the NRX porn production machine. That machine was so well oiled that it could lift actresses who were 7's into 8.5 territory. And it let actresses who were 9.5's or 10's absolutely unleash some of the best porn ever shot.

Take Nicole Murkovski, for example. When it comes to figure and face - she's absolutely solid. But nothing like "an absolute standout" by any means. But! ...

NRX highlighted both her youth and her gymnastic skills. Suddenly, she was dressed like, acted, and looked like the high-school cheerleader. 7.5 ----> 8.5. Next, she was surrounded by a bunch of mean looking men who absolutely made her wince with the positions they put her in. 8.5 ----> 9.25. Further complemented by her subdued nature, so she didn't have that (obnoxious) "I really want to be here and get gangbanged" attitude so many actresses have - further lending credibility and empowering the other aspects that I just listed and which were part of her shoots. On top of this! She's shooting in a large set - making her gymnastic abilities shine - with the guys banging her in all of these wild positions. 9.25 ----> 9.5.

A 7.5 ----> 9.5 through production alone is no mean feat.

When she came to shoot with Giorgio, the shot started out in a dressing room, where her skin melded right into the wallpaper, and she's calmly applying make up. The room is tiny, so the camera is forced into her face, which without the perspective of the rest of her body, isn't the best place to start with her. The energy was kind of zero from the start, and nothing really got it going. It wasn't really "her fault," she acted like she does in her scenes; subdued. But, the nature of the shoot didn't take that into account. Which, alright ... fine. But ... that 7.5 was downgraded to a 7 because, well, all of her strengths were ignored or not taken into account. Hard to do gymnastics in a small room. Or when your back is laying down on a couch.

The set was fucking awful. The lighting at the beginning was poor. It was ... just a missed opportunity.

The people who were NRX fans probably watched the trailer and didn't get that excited for it. They probably wanted to hear some word of mouth or understand more of what was in the scene. Also. Also! Girl's who've previously shot DAP and are now shooting a DP scene most likely won't sell as well. Ladder rung breaks are great profit earners - but afterwards - there's no going backwards down the rung. Those previous rungs were broken. You either stay at the same rung repeatedly and earn decent sales - or you go up. Which is why actresses like Eden Ivy haven't done DAP yet (and probably never will).

The idea that old NRX fans don't know what's going down at GIO's isn't fair. Neither is not taking into account all of the specifics of the shoots that didn't match or exceed the NRX energy. And last, but certainly not least ...

Ally Horny and Lilith Liber aren't Sasha Paige or Eva Barbie. ...


Spot on analysis, except for the bolded part which I strongly disagree with. In fact I think this myth has become self-fulfilling in that models are expected to climb the ladder and once they reach the top customer interest will start to drop. But that's only what's to be expected if the only scenes she gets to shoot are DAP, TAP, TVP or TP scenes! The customer base who bought her earlier scenes might not all be interested in those advanced things and suddenly that's the only type of content that gets produced. Only the fans of that particular fetish will still support her, and even they will soon find that all new scenes are more or less the same. Meanwhile her old fans would love the opportunity to buy more of the less advanced stuff, but that's no longer an option because she can only climb upwards. This bullshit needs to stop!

It wasn't that she had already done DAP that was the problem, it was everything else that you so accurately described that was the issue. The problem is when a producer has focused too much on particular fetishes at the expense of quality in other areas, thus reducing the customer base to people who ONLY care about the fetish. It's no wonder poor quality scenes without that fetish won't sell under those circumstances, when the overall quality doesn't keep up with the competition from which the expectations were set.
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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby hjohjole » Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:18 pm

hyapet wrote:
That on the main page where all the porno scenes are listed literally twenty pixels from one another - people only go to check out their specific page - and absolutely skip all the rest of the productions that, catering to their specific tastes, have regularly in the past shared the same actresses, styles of shoots, wardrobes and sets? I'm not buying that.


When you are logged in only the studios that you have chosen to be visible shows.
But there are of course many ways to brows and search this website. And there are also TV guides. Its just an analogy.

The point is that when porn is this expensive you are unlikely to spend any money at all to support a studio that only makes the type of content you like or books the type of models you like once or twice in a year.
You are much better off supporting the studio that regularly brings the content that you like. And that is what most people do.

The time when you could just buy all the scenes that looked even remotely interesting are long gone by now.

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Postby dap-addict » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:13 am

hjohjole wrote:The time when you could just buy all the scenes that looked even remotely interesting are long gone by now.

Today GIO re-released an old Anuskatzzz scene shot in his own studio and a Stalker Prodz scene with Silvia Soprano shot about 2 years ago. Both scenes are clearly marked as re-releases. Giorgio Grandi said in this thread I think he will switch to re-releasing other producer scenes soon. Here we are! But is that an interesting offer for us? :confused:
Maybe it doesn't matter because there may be many first or second time Pornbox visitors who dont know either Anuskatzzz or Silvia Soprano or even Giorgio Grandi. ;)
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Postby dap-addict » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:19 am

Btw, since when does Stalker produce in GIO studio(s)? :confused:
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Postby jjwhite1985 » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:26 am

dap-addict wrote:Btw, since when does Stalker produce in GIO studio(s)? :confused:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

He doesn't, what Gio meant was he would release other content through his studio (so a Stalker scene appears in Giorgio Grandi). I think you were also right in your previous comment, Pornbox obviously gets a lot more visitors than just long-time LP fans, so for these studios it makes financial sense to just re-release old stuff. Sucks for us but it is what it is.

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Postby liko19 » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:56 pm

House MD wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors


Please quit entirely, your production is just an absolute shitload of piss


I agree. I have a severe fetish for the color red (GG and his fanaticism for shooting actresses only in stockings, shoes and clothes) and therefore I will only produce and sell red cars. A few customers who like the color red are cheering enthusiastically and all the others who would like a different color (naked actress, no vomiting...) shit and I don't pay attention to them. And then I'm very surprised that I'm going broke.

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Postby liko19 » Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:37 pm

ampl wrote:"Russian models are not interesting" and "sales are terrible" is such a funny comment when the top selling scenes have Russian girls. "Performance is below average" means I'm angry they don't want to be fisted by three hands and don't want to puke their guts out while getting pissed on.



You described it exactly. Russian girls are bad (well, because they don't want to shoot all the time in clothes and shoes and are completely naked and barefoot) that's why they are bad for the great master. He hates naked girls. Russian girls are bad and they don't sell themselves (because they don't want to drink buckets of urine and throw up and then eat the vomit) I personally don't know a single guy who would be turned on by that. These are really the news of 2024. Russia made me terribly angry by starting a war and people are dying. But I can still appreciate quality and good work and for me the Russian girls and actors are one of the best and they also had a great filming style and perfect BTS scenes.

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Postby annmsklr5 » Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:44 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors


Dear Giorgio, as I wrote in the GIO Tribute thread, I will be glad if you'll at least continue shooting Rebel Rhyder anal scenes (doesn't particularly matter if bga/dp/daps/solo/lesbo/whatever). She's such talent that not doing it would be a shame. At least for some time.

Thank you.
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TBH, those girls are the least interesting ones today IMHO. No wonder Giorgio wasn't impressed.
But IMHO there are many Colombian/Venezuelan/Brazilian girls that might be rather worth shooting instead of Russian girls.

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Postby dap-addict » Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:48 pm

annmsklr5 wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors


Dear Giorgio, as I wrote in the GIO Tribute thread, I will be glad if you'll at least continue shooting Rebel Rhyder anal scenes

Hardly gonna happen.
Just heard more elaborated explanation of Giorgio, a.o. it looks he earned ans saved already enough money. :) ;)
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Postby liko19 » Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:52 pm

annmsklr5 wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors


Dear Giorgio, as I wrote in the GIO Tribute thread, I will be glad if you'll at least continue shooting Rebel Rhyder anal scenes (doesn't particularly matter if bga/dp/daps/solo/lesbo/whatever). She's such talent that not doing it would be a shame. At least for some time.

Thank you.
Best regards


Hahaha. You really don't know how to get in your god GG's ass. Don't worry, he won't even notice you.

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Postby annmsklr5 » Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:37 pm

dap-addict wrote:
annmsklr5 wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors


Dear Giorgio, as I wrote in the GIO Tribute thread, I will be glad if you'll at least continue shooting Rebel Rhyder anal scenes

Hardly gonna happen.
Just heard more elaborated explanation of Giorgio, a.o. it looks he earned ans saved already enough money. :) ;)


Well that may be the case as well as just being a speculation, I personally haven't heard it confirmed from him personally yet.

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Postby gerdsen » Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:02 am

liko19 wrote:
ampl wrote:"Russian models are not interesting" and "sales are terrible" is such a funny comment when the top selling scenes have Russian girls. "Performance is below average" means I'm angry they don't want to be fisted by three hands and don't want to puke their guts out while getting pissed on.



You described it exactly. Russian girls are bad (well, because they don't want to shoot all the time in clothes and shoes and are completely naked and barefoot) that's why they are bad for the great master. He hates naked girls. Russian girls are bad and they don't sell themselves (because they don't want to drink buckets of urine and throw up and then eat the vomit) I personally don't know a single guy who would be turned on by that. These are really the news of 2024. Russia made me terribly angry by starting a war and people are dying. But I can still appreciate quality and good work and for me the Russian girls and actors are one of the best and they also had a great filming style and perfect BTS scenes.


yeah who the hell wanna see such disgusting shit i puke by seeing other people puke its one of the most disgusting things there is.. That is not what we or the girls doing these scenes want.

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Postby Chimpy.677 » Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:25 am

gerdsen wrote:
liko19 wrote:
ampl wrote:"Russian models are not interesting" and "sales are terrible" is such a funny comment when the top selling scenes have Russian girls. "Performance is below average" means I'm angry they don't want to be fisted by three hands and don't want to puke their guts out while getting pissed on.



You described it exactly. Russian girls are bad (well, because they don't want to shoot all the time in clothes and shoes and are completely naked and barefoot) that's why they are bad for the great master. He hates naked girls. Russian girls are bad and they don't sell themselves (because they don't want to drink buckets of urine and throw up and then eat the vomit) I personally don't know a single guy who would be turned on by that. These are really the news of 2024. Russia made me terribly angry by starting a war and people are dying. But I can still appreciate quality and good work and for me the Russian girls and actors are one of the best and they also had a great filming style and perfect BTS scenes.


yeah who the hell wanna see such disgusting shit i puke by seeing other people puke its one of the most disgusting things there is.. That is not what we or the girls doing these scenes want.


This is what I have been saying for years, these are the causes of AV's failure, but there is always a group of weirdos defending this madness.

By making scenes with gallons of piss, vomit and prolapses, the only thing you get is that:

1) Many young and beautiful girls don't want to film. So you end up bringing the same women 1000 times doing the same thing over and over again, which is what has been happening in recent years.

2) The scenes are more expensive because you have to pay a higher price for the girls to want to do this, in addition to a lot of other factors, such as: you have to pay more to the male actors to do this; the scenes are longer so each scene needs more storage space on the server; you have to make two versions, one dry and one wet, which also leads to fearing more storage space on the server, in addition to the editing work; a higher cost in cleaning the studio for obvious reasons, etc.

Those two things alone led us to having the same scenes with the same women a million times over, but people here are obsessed with saying that it's all OF's fault. When the website's debacle is their fault.

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Postby hyapet » Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:52 am

dap-addict wrote:Now this is exactly why GIO invited only not yet DAP-ed girls to Serbia. Plan was to present their DAPbreakin' scene @ GIO and from there move further with the full DAP-based program. For this ofc he needed really NRX-girls really willing to try DAP... and here the NRX system failed. :mad: :(


The NRX system didn't fail - as much as a piece of Ikea furniture doesn't fail if you don't read the instructions and start sticking the wrong parts together.

It's well-known (as you would obviously know) that a studio takes some time to get up on it's feet and running. Thing is - that comes with a lot of benefits for the studio itself. For example - when Nick was building his arsenal of absolutely astounding AAA+ talent - he was known as "the guy everyone wants to work for." Incredible pay - top-tier production (you're made to look absolutely awesome) - and scenes so high-end that they essentially make you a porn-star. Not bad for shooting for a single studio. Yet - the thing is - that talent really ended up working for him in the end.

What do I mean by this? Let's say you're currently shooting Eva Barbie and Sasha Paige BBC DAP scenes. Two 10/10 actresses (looks wise) that just ... bring the sales and bring the industry clout with them because of the whole machine Nick had running there. Alright - so, let's say a new talent wants to join NRX, but ... she's only an 7.5 or 8 out of 10. Well, now there's no question that she's going to be performing BBC DAP, or anything that Nick wants, because ... well, look who's shooting for him already. Eva Barbie and Sasha Paige are there to essentially make the bar so high to jump over, other girls who want those kinds of contracts, who want that kind of attention (and thus market penetration afterwards), and who want to be part of the hottest thing on the market ... well, those 7.5's don't have the bargaining chips in their corner, really.

But ...

These girls come over to Giorgio's studio, and he had a dearth of talent at that moment. They look at the sets, they look at the planned shoots, and it was all ... obviously a downgrade. If anyone's wondering why the girl's might not be so enthused in the videos, it's because they went from performing at Cirque Du Soleil to ... just another circus. Now, that could be easily interpreted as an incredibly mean shot at Giorgio, but not everything there was his fault. However, the sets he had set up were lackluster. The scripts were ... meh. The lighting, the spacing, it was all just ... just another porn shoot for the kind of girl's that he'd been shooting for a good chunk of time now. 6 or 7 out of 10's.

The girl's who were used to being "transformed" into 8.5's to 9.5's - saw themselves being downgraded, more than anything, by someone who either didn't properly prepare himself for their arrival, or who didn't care. And to be fair to Giorgio, I can kind of understand that he might not want to jump through every available hoop, including putting down large wads of cash, so he can lift a bunch of 7 - 8's a number or a number and a half higher.

His own machine was like an NRX machine back in the day. Back in the day. The Nikki Hill shoots are some of the most legendary porn that's ever been shot - bar none. He was the NRX before NRX came around. But at that point, scraping at the left-overs of somebody else's project, seeing diminished sales, a half-hearted effort from his talent because of the very things that are causing him to be half-hearted, and he was probably like ...

Fuck it.

I had my day. I made amazing material. I was an industry leader. A standard bearer. I was the fucking man.

And by all rights he was.

But now ... what's he supposed to do? Lower his quality - have his audience lose interest in his work - leave the industry because the industry essentially left him? (To be fair - the industry is leaving a ton of people - so I'm not singling Giorgio out here).

He's an artist. And artist's have both their pride and their self-respect. He probably figured that by the time he managed to rebuild something from what, because of market forces, is essentially nothing, he'd be in his mid to late fifties, and then what? Be a Grandpa shooting porn?

I can see him getting out. He gave it his all. He tried everything he could. But, there were things that were beyond his control. You might really want to play ice hockey outside. It's hard to blame you when you don't because it's plus fifteen degrees outside. Dumping it all in his lap, or any of it, really, would be entirely unfair. And undeserving for the man who gave us so fucking much.

I'll tackle the other part of your quote later. Best to allow this to still be readable for the folks who don't want to digest a book.

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby dap-addict » Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:22 am

hyapet wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Now this is exactly why GIO invited only not yet DAP-ed girls to Serbia. Plan was to present their DAPbreakin' scene @ GIO and from there move further with the full DAP-based program. For this ofc he needed really NRX-girls really willing to try DAP... and here the NRX system failed. :mad: :(


The NRX system didn't fail - as much as a piece of Ikea furniture doesn't fail if you don't read the instructions and start sticking the wrong parts together.

It's well-known (as you would obviously know) that a studio takes some time to get up on it's feet and running.

NRX and GIO are different studios. And GIO didnt try to imitate NRX in Serbia, he was trying to shoot his scenes in another place, easily accessible for Russian girls. GIO studio standard is DAPbreakin' within 2-3 scenes, thats expected from the girls, not the slow NRX build-up program. Girls takeing the call for Serbia were supposed to train for that GIO shooting schedule - or not take the booking at all.
What we have is a clash of porn cultures: Russian girls dont have the work ethic needed at GIO anymore because NRX spoiled them. :(

Btw, are you aware that GIO kicked off NRX back in pandemic times?
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Postby hyapet » Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:02 am

DPraved wrote:Spot on analysis, except for the bolded part which I strongly disagree with. In fact I think this myth has become self-fulfilling in that models are expected to climb the ladder and once they reach the top customer interest will start to drop. But that's only what's to be expected if the only scenes she gets to shoot are DAP, TAP, TVP or TP scenes! The customer base who bought her earlier scenes might not all be interested in those advanced things and suddenly that's the only type of content that gets produced. Only the fans of that particular fetish will still support her, and even they will soon find that all new scenes are more or less the same. Meanwhile her old fans would love the opportunity to buy more of the less advanced stuff, but that's no longer an option because she can only climb upwards. This bullshit needs to stop!


That's the problem, though. It can't "stop." It's not a preference. Much like someone doesn't prefer for their leg muscles to get tired after running for ten kilometers, one cannot just prefer to "un-see" something.

Once you've seen a girl take two gigantic black cocks up her ass at the same time ... watching her shoot a single 1 on 1 anal scene with a white guy ... like, honestly ... honestly now. Is your wallet coming out for that?

The only two things that can mitigate this are if the girl disappears for a while or just continuously, non-stop, starts shooting scenes that are "not as intense." Like, after six months of one-on-one scenes, suddenly when the girl reappears in a DP gangbang, things are kind of getting spicy again. But, even then ...

Nothing's deleting the previous BBC DAP scene she had done. Which is what brings us to this ...

chimpy.677 wrote:This is what I have been saying for years, these are the causes of AV's failure, but there is always a group of weirdos defending this madness.

By making scenes with gallons of piss, vomit and prolapses, the only thing you get is that:

1) Many young and beautiful girls don't want to film. So you end up bringing the same women 1000 times doing the same thing over and over again, which is what has been happening in recent years.

2) The scenes are more expensive because you have to pay a higher price for the girls to want to do this, in addition to a lot of other factors, such as: you have to pay more to the male actors to do this; the scenes are longer so each scene needs more storage space on the server; you have to make two versions, one dry and one wet, which also leads to fearing more storage space on the server, in addition to the editing work; a higher cost in cleaning the studio for obvious reasons, etc.

Those two things alone led us to having the same scenes with the same women a million times over, but people here are obsessed with saying that it's all OF's fault. When the website's debacle is their fault.


These are all excellent points. They are. But ... and there's always a but here ...

These things were introduced as career-extensions for all the girl's careers who committed to DAP-breakin'. Because, after DAP-breakin' ... then what? You go to all the other studios - anywhere - and they won't pay you as much for a DP scene as they once would have because of everything I first listed above in this comment. "You've already been on the BBC DAP train," they'll say, "Nobody wants to see you get DP'd by a couple of white guys. So, if I accept you for this shoot, your pay is going to be way less than for somebody who this act is new for."

So, in a way, introducing tiers of "make-believe totally non-sexy stuff" was the only way for the studio itself to survive, because once you take somebody to pretty much the apex of "traditional degenerate porn" - there's nowhere else to go than actual full-on degen porn.

Somebody here made the topic about, "What's next? Shitting?" And it's like ... they inadvertently hit the nail on the head, because ... yeah. There always has to be one extra ladder rung to go. And ... ironically! Ironically. It's for the girl's who shoot the porn's benefit, because, in a way, it still gives them work. It still gives them a reason to hang around.

I don't want to say that porn is like prostitution, but ... it kind of is. In that ... the audience ... or the "Johns" ... pay a lot less for the girl's who've already been used and put through "the system."

There's that saying that gets used, usually with a lot of edge, "Getting spit out at the bottom of the porn industry."

Well, what that essentially refers to is someone who, no matter how beautiful they might actually be, has essentially destroyed any "moral" worth they may have had by, essentially, filming themselves doing the most degrading shit. And, for all the degens out there, watching them drink another bowl of piss is just like ... yeah, whatever.

Their innocence has already been destroyed.

That's what people are really watching for.


Which, in a way, is a shame. Because the BBC DAP essentially brings people over that threshold entirely. Or, even the DAP in general. Where, once a girl has gone there ... she can't go back.

So ... all of this is like ... yeah.

As awesome as it would be for folks to get excited with their wallets and fork over cash en-masse for a BWC DP scene on a girl that's already done BBC DAP ... that typically doesn't happen.

Which is why you saw girl's like Eden Ivy, who had the beauty required to essentially keep on doing BWC DP scenes non-stop, never go beyond that. Because she knew the line she would be crossing.

She knew she could never uncross it.

Which is why categories like piss and puke exist.

So that the career for all the girl's who did cross it ... isn't just automatically over.

I know it goes deeper than that, but honestly ...

That plays a large role in it.

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Postby dap-addict » Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:50 am

hyapet wrote:Their innocence has already been destroyed.

That's what people are really watching for.


Which, in a way, is a shame. Because the BBC DAP essentially brings people over that threshold entirely. Or, even the DAP in general. Where, once a girl has gone there ... she can't go back.

So ... all of this is like ... yeah.

As awesome as it would be for folks to get excited with their wallets and fork over cash en-masse for a BWC DP scene on a girl that's already done BBC DAP ... that typically doesn't happen.

You are falling in the trap of the US-step-by-step concept for porn, while ignoring that GIO abolished that notion by trying to dap a girl from her very first porn scene, like they did with Nicole Black, May Thai etc. With those able to perform DAP straight away they did it, with others they usually did the DAPbreakin' within 3 scenes.
NRX jumped back to that US-step-by-step culture granting most girls 10 scenes contract ending with DAP and than most times not re-booking them. Thats cynical and mean.

GIO in turn started with DAP and than developed different porn stories from there, all of them usually including DAP, which is the highest payed porn sex act, so girls would earn more money easily.

For porn girls that was a good move, but US bred step-by-step users got lost in that new porn culture. That's why we have p*ke porn now. :(
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Postby Chimpy.677 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:17 pm

hyapet wrote:These things were introduced as career-extensions for all the girl's careers who committed to DAP-breakin'. Because, after DAP-breakin' ... then what? You go to all the other studios - anywhere - and they won't pay you as much for a DP scene as they once would have because of everything I first listed above in this comment. "You've already been on the BBC DAP train," they'll say, "Nobody wants to see you get DP'd by a couple of white guys. So, if I accept you for this shoot, your pay is going to be way less than for somebody who this act is new for."

So, in a way, introducing tiers of "make-believe totally non-sexy stuff" was the only way for the studio itself to survive, because once you take somebody to pretty much the apex of "traditional degenerate porn" - there's nowhere else to go than actual full-on degen porn.

Somebody here made the topic about, "What's next? Shitting?" And it's like ... they inadvertently hit the nail on the head, because ... yeah. There always has to be one extra ladder rung to go. And ... ironically! Ironically. It's for the girl's who shoot the porn's benefit, because, in a way, it still gives them work. It still gives them a reason to hang around.[/b]


What you say is totally false, because here we are not talking about going over the DAP limit, what we are talking about here is that people want girls to start their careers being peed on by liters of urine, making them vomit and have prolapses that are even risky for their health.

So, the only thing you achieve with this is that no young and beautiful girl wants to do scenes in AV and in the end you end up with the same girls who have been doing the same scenes over and over again for years, which is the destiny we have reached now.

In the end, it was the fault of those people that they ended up closing all the studios. Something that I had said would end up happening if they continued like this.


dap-addict wrote:You are falling in the trap of the US-step-by-step concept for porn, while ignoring that GIO abolished that notion by trying to dap a girl from her very first porn scene, like they did with Nicole Black, May Thai etc. With those able to perform DAP straight away they did it, with others they usually did the DAPbreakin' within 3 scenes.
NRX jumped back to that US-step-by-step culture granting most girls 10 scenes contract ending with DAP and than most times not re-booking them. Thats cynical and mean.

GIO in turn started with DAP and than developed different porn stories from there, all of them usually including DAP, which is the highest payed porn sex act, so girls would earn more money easily.

For porn girls that was a good move, but US bred step-by-step users got lost in that new porn culture. That's why we have p*ke porn now.[/b]


The amount of young and beautiful girls willing to do a DAP scene as their first scene is extremely low unless you offer ridiculous amounts of money.

So what you achieve with this is that no young and beautiful girl wants to do scenes in AV, that is why in the GIO studio we have like 1000 scenes of Anna De Ville or Rebel Rhyder doing the same scene over and over again constantly, because there are no new girls willing to do that from the beginning.

That is why the progressive scenes, that is, starting with an anal sex scene, then DP, then gangbang with DP, then DAP and finally gangbang with DAP is a strategy that must be done so as not to end up with all the studios closed like now...

Because you can't ask an OF girl to start doing a DAP because she will reject you on the spot. Ask her for something calm to start with, an anal and then when she gains confidence you move on to DP and DAP.
Also, this is advertising too, bringing a beautiful girl from sites like OF or similar brings new clients, because those girls have a large fan base.

And if there are more clients, there is more money for investments, and if there are bigger investments, there are better female models, and if there are better female models, more clients will come, feeding back into the system and growing the site to return to a golden age.

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Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:02 am

Chimpy.677 wrote:That is why the progressive scenes, that is, starting with an anal sex scene, then DP, then gangbang with DP, then DAP and finally gangbang with DAP is a strategy that must be done so as not to end up with all the studios closed like now...

You might have understood me wrongly, Chimpy, DAP in the very first scene is the ideal, but DAP in a girls 3rd, 4th or 5th scene is fine. Most girls need a slower progression than straight-into-DAP. GIO did exactly that!
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Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:55 am

Since i did the code speculation GIO2852 was released as Vitoria Beatriz scene. So things doesn't look as promising as before if you reject the idea of code randomness.

Still likely
GIO2845 - missing
GIO2849 - missing

unlikely
GIO2854 - missing
GIO2855 - missing


So realistically i see two outcomes now:

option A - parity:
each girl was booked for two scenes, excluding Stacy Bloom stuff.

GIO2845 - Ally Horny scene
GIO2849 - Nicole Murkovski scene

option B - DAP (chronologically unlikely):

GIO2845 - Nicole Murkovski
GIO2849 - Lilith Liber

Another question is when the scenes will be released since it has been two/three weeks already without any.
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Postby liko19 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:32 pm

hyapet wrote:
DPraved wrote:Spot on analysis, except for the bolded part which I strongly disagree with. In fact I think this myth has become self-fulfilling in that models are expected to climb the ladder and once they reach the top customer interest will start to drop. But that's only what's to be expected if the only scenes she gets to shoot are DAP, TAP, TVP or TP scenes! The customer base who bought her earlier scenes might not all be interested in those advanced things and suddenly that's the only type of content that gets produced. Only the fans of that particular fetish will still support her, and even they will soon find that all new scenes are more or less the same. Meanwhile her old fans would love the opportunity to buy more of the less advanced stuff, but that's no longer an option because she can only climb upwards. This bullshit needs to stop!


That's the problem, though. It can't "stop." It's not a preference. Much like someone doesn't prefer for their leg muscles to get tired after running for ten kilometers, one cannot just prefer to "un-see" something.

Once you've seen a girl take two gigantic black cocks up her ass at the same time ... watching her shoot a single 1 on 1 anal scene with a white guy ... like, honestly ... honestly now. Is your wallet coming out for that?

The only two things that can mitigate this are if the girl disappears for a while or just continuously, non-stop, starts shooting scenes that are "not as intense." Like, after six months of one-on-one scenes, suddenly when the girl reappears in a DP gangbang, things are kind of getting spicy again. But, even then ...

Nothing's deleting the previous BBC DAP scene she had done. Which is what brings us to this ...

chimpy.677 wrote:This is what I have been saying for years, these are the causes of AV's failure, but there is always a group of weirdos defending this madness.

By making scenes with gallons of piss, vomit and prolapses, the only thing you get is that:

1) Many young and beautiful girls don't want to film. So you end up bringing the same women 1000 times doing the same thing over and over again, which is what has been happening in recent years.

2) The scenes are more expensive because you have to pay a higher price for the girls to want to do this, in addition to a lot of other factors, such as: you have to pay more to the male actors to do this; the scenes are longer so each scene needs more storage space on the server; you have to make two versions, one dry and one wet, which also leads to fearing more storage space on the server, in addition to the editing work; a higher cost in cleaning the studio for obvious reasons, etc.

Those two things alone led us to having the same scenes with the same women a million times over, but people here are obsessed with saying that it's all OF's fault. When the website's debacle is their fault.


These are all excellent points. They are. But ... and there's always a but here ...

These things were introduced as career-extensions for all the girl's careers who committed to DAP-breakin'. Because, after DAP-breakin' ... then what? You go to all the other studios - anywhere - and they won't pay you as much for a DP scene as they once would have because of everything I first listed above in this comment. "You've already been on the BBC DAP train," they'll say, "Nobody wants to see you get DP'd by a couple of white guys. So, if I accept you for this shoot, your pay is going to be way less than for somebody who this act is new for."

So, in a way, introducing tiers of "make-believe totally non-sexy stuff" was the only way for the studio itself to survive, because once you take somebody to pretty much the apex of "traditional degenerate porn" - there's nowhere else to go than actual full-on degen porn.

Somebody here made the topic about, "What's next? Shitting?" And it's like ... they inadvertently hit the nail on the head, because ... yeah. There always has to be one extra ladder rung to go. And ... ironically! Ironically. It's for the girl's who shoot the porn's benefit, because, in a way, it still gives them work. It still gives them a reason to hang around.

I don't want to say that porn is like prostitution, but ... it kind of is. In that ... the audience ... or the "Johns" ... pay a lot less for the girl's who've already been used and put through "the system."

There's that saying that gets used, usually with a lot of edge, "Getting spit out at the bottom of the porn industry."

Well, what that essentially refers to is someone who, no matter how beautiful they might actually be, has essentially destroyed any "moral" worth they may have had by, essentially, filming themselves doing the most degrading shit. And, for all the degens out there, watching them drink another bowl of piss is just like ... yeah, whatever.

Their innocence has already been destroyed.

That's what people are really watching for.


Which, in a way, is a shame. Because the BBC DAP essentially brings people over that threshold entirely. Or, even the DAP in general. Where, once a girl has gone there ... she can't go back.

So ... all of this is like ... yeah.

As awesome as it would be for folks to get excited with their wallets and fork over cash en-masse for a BWC DP scene on a girl that's already done BBC DAP ... that typically doesn't happen.

Which is why you saw girl's like Eden Ivy, who had the beauty required to essentially keep on doing BWC DP scenes non-stop, never go beyond that. Because she knew the line she would be crossing.

She knew she could never uncross it.

Which is why categories like piss and puke exist.

So that the career for all the girl's who did cross it ... isn't just automatically over.

I know it goes deeper than that, but honestly ...

That plays a large role in it.



I don't agree. I'll be happy for Ria Sunn's 1+1 scene with a white guy, as long as it's hard anal sex and she gets fucked hard. Because I love hard anal sex and I like Ria Sunn. If it's Alexxa Vice, I'll never play any scene because I hate fat women. So when Ria, Dellai, Mina, Kristy Black and others shoot a new scene, I'm always very interested. It's about that particular model. But if a model that turns me on and likes me starts eating vomit or drinking buckets of urine, I immediately turn off the scene in disgust.

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Postby liko19 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:00 pm

This is what I have been saying for years, these are the causes of AV's failure, but there is always a group of weirdos defending this madness.

By making scenes with gallons of piss, vomit and prolapses, the only thing you get is that:

1) Many young and beautiful girls don't want to film. So you end up bringing the same women 1000 times doing the same thing over and over again, which is what has been happening in recent years.

2) The scenes are more expensive because you have to pay a higher price for the girls to want to do this, in addition to a lot of other factors, such as: you have to pay more to the male actors to do this; the scenes are longer so each scene needs more storage space on the server; you have to make two versions, one dry and one wet, which also leads to fearing more storage space on the server, in addition to the editing work; a higher cost in cleaning the studio for obvious reasons, etc.

Those two things alone led us to having the same scenes with the same women a million times over, but people here are obsessed with saying that it's all OF's fault. When the website's debacle is their fault.[/b][/size][/color][/quote]

I am signing this. Totally agree. This is the work of various courtiers, who wrote celebratory odes to GG every day for every scene or thread, when they ridiculously climbed up his ass and pushed him into absolutely disgusting things that only 0.1% of people can like. Another thing is GG's fanatical obsession with clothes and shoes, when 95-98% of all scenes are only and exclusively filmed in clothes and mainly with the model's legs covered. But only a certain part of customers like this style, yet GG and its subordinate studios absolutely do not take into account the wishes of other customers, who would very much like to buy scenes with a naked woman, but do not have a chance, only in a few percent of cases. Other studios, which do not allow themselves to film their own style with a naked woman, behave in a completely appallingly subservient manner. AGO, Lancelot, Natasha, Mambo are clear proof of this. There were and are many beautiful actresses who never had a single nude scene (Silvia Sin, Dulce M, Alexa Throat +XXX) or only very few, maybe two or three scenes out of hundreds filmed (Jolee Love, Laura Fiorentino, Qweensg, Nicole Black , Nela Decker and dozens of others) Any entrepreneur or company can never and must not behave like this, otherwise sooner or later they will go bankrupt. And again it was the work of some courtiers who were very supportive of GG here in his fanatical style.

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:34 pm

Giorgio Grandi and xxx have both themselves confirmed that studios or directors/producers choosing to take alternative paths or different directions away from LPAV/PornBox are not due to bankruptcy, financial reasons.

Let's respect what each individual and what different fans prefer.
Yes, we all know you like women to be totally naked with no lingerie, and no heels...good for you, there is no need to push that agenda any further...
Good luck and all the very best.

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby kolbino » Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:33 am

Was Belgrade a choice because of travel free visa issue only? Was it just a location, studs, crew were brought from Prague? Was GG in Belgrade too? My question is, was there crew members, cameramen from Belgrade involved?

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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:34 am

kolbino wrote:Was Belgrade a choice because of travel free visa issue only? Was it just a location, studs, crew were brought from Prague? Was GG in Belgrade too? My question is, was there crew members, cameramen from Belgrade involved?


It must be visa issues, but also probably because there are direct flights from Moscow or Spb to Belgrade too. As I understand, it was more like model agency that arranged the trip and GIO simply took the opportunity. All the girls who went to Belgrade did a lot more shooting for other studios like onlytarts and virtualtaboo while in Serbia. Also these studios flew many more russian talents to Serbia this year before: Eva Barbie, Bella Grey, Milka, etc.
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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby isis666xxx » Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:55 pm

Chimpy.677 wrote:This is what I have been saying for years, these are the causes of AV's failure, but there is always a group of weirdos defending this madness.

By making scenes with gallons of piss, vomit and prolapses, the only thing you get is that:



you are escalating the insults a lot, now we are 'weirdos' and piss, vomit & prolapses are 'madness'

the real madness is to find those 3 things 'madness'

you are the one that is really mad with your fear and demonization

i personally dont care much about prolapses, they are kinda boring for me
except when a girl licks other girl's prolapse, then is super hot
why is hot? cuz nasty extreme things are hot

like this for example:
you are mentally ill if you find this 'madness'
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Re: Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

Postby isis666xxx » Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:47 pm

Chimpy.677 wrote:This is what I have been saying for years, these are the causes of AV's failure, but there is always a group of weirdos defending this madness.

By making scenes with gallons of piss, vomit and prolapses, the only thing you get is that:



yo dawg i heard you like prolapses

so i invited you to PRO LAPS store in gta san andreas multiplayer

join me bro
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