Prague Porn Productions moving to Serbia

[dap-addict]

I'm surprised GIO's move to shoot some of his porn with Russian girls in Serbia hasnt been discussed more here. Not only in terms of logistics it's a very innovative step, cutting import costs and time tremendously due to no visas needed and much cheaper airfare.
If it works other Prague studios will sure fellow.

How did you like the GIO scenes released so far?

[dap-addict]

Here are the scene links:
GIO2844: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1621218
GIO2846: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1625844
GIO2648: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1639713 (DAP)
AL028: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1647987 (lez)
GIO2853: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1648263 (DAP)

[Giorgio Grandi]

Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

[visigoth2020260]

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Sad, but all previous steps indicate it.
It is not the end of the world.

Why are sales so terrible?
Who knows.

Can each one of you give a quick guess?

1: Many porn buyers were wiped out by COVID.
2: The introduction of PPB's endless garbage studios finally manages to burry and stink the top studios.
3: The endless repetition of the same girls.
4: All scenes are similar in fashion and how they are made.
5: Latin studios, with there cheap prices, became a huge burden.
6: GG price increase. 20 dollars for a scene turned buyers away to the back alleys.

GG is very smart, and I am sure that he is looking and will come up with a solution.
Making porn is his life.
This is just a crisis that he must overcome.

Can you produce the Big Boy Johnson scene?
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=8459&hilit=script+writer&start=40#p945393

So who is making the black background scenes?

My guess is that M GG is making them in Prague with a studio makeover.
They are really nice-looking scenes with good lighting; all they need is better plots.

GG must set some rules and expectations for producers who want to sell there scenes at GG Studios.
If not, it will be just another PPB robot, and we all know what that fucking robot did.

All my support for the greatest porn producer ever.
M, GG.

[marcimilan]

Try gipsy girls.
Sales Will increase.

[zeusanalfreak299]

Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.
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I would never expect to read that.

From my POV Russian models contributed to the success of all studios and AV/LP in general
as significantly as moels from Czech, Ukraine, US, Romania, Italy, Columbia, Brazil,...

Promlem is the excessive Piss, DAP/TAP trend I think.

Who is interesting today from your POV apart from Columbia/Brazil models?

[jjwhite1985]

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

Wow, that's a bombshell. Would certainly miss your content if that's the case.

[dap-addict]

Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Indeed, now I see only Queen Goddess 4on1 BWC DAP sold worse this month so far.

But why didnt you make more PR for those Serbian shot comebacks?
And why they performed that low level? What's the reason behind?



Btw, me, I scanned only 1 Serbia shot performance more closely so far and my impression was that girl had changed her porn performance a lot, I was actually quite surprised.

[Jaxkbnm]

WTF Giorgio retiring sad day man.

[dap-addict]

Looks like lots of hope were put into Serbian studio.

But they didnt even give it a chance to bloom with almost no advertisements and forum neglected because it's said to have too little traffic. But then were is more loyal customers traffic? And was there PR for this new endevour there? - I haven't seen it.

Was Serbian studio really just set-up from the start as self-fulfilling failure prophecy?

[dap-addict]

edit: Looks like lots of hope were put into Serbian studio.
And now upon first 5 scenes market failure Giorgio is fed up and maybe giving up too soon.

[Chimpy.677]

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

I told them that this was going to happen, it was obvious, when you focus so much on niche pornography you are limiting yourself, therefore losing the greatest number of clients.

The golden formula of the old LP was basic but extremely successful, bringing young and beautiful girls in hardcore DP and DAP scenes without any other type of additional content. When you add other types of fetishes, there are many people who reject it and therefore do not buy and in the medium and long term they forget about the company, in the end you are left with the same clients as always and in the end they also end up getting tired in the long run. deadline and all this ends in the closure of the studio due to poor sales.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

Please do not stop production...the porn scenes you produce are the best in the world.

[YumYum74]

After reading Giorgio's statement, it baffles me that people don't take him seriously or come up with alternative ideas for him. Do you all really think he hasn't already looked at dozens of options? He knows what happens behind the scenes (financially and otherwise), we don't. Here he is, stating this so unequivocally, and people still think there is a solution. Nobody should be this naive.

It is just another domino to fall in the downward trend of the last couple of years, quite likely the biggest one and one that will change this site forever (or outright kill it with what little is left in terms of professional studios).

Sad times, yes. Surprising? Not in the least.

[M_sicas_Candido]

I would never attribute the current failure of the Prague studios to inclusions of fetishes that aren't even so bizarre compared to some pretty weird stuff on dark sites.

In my opinion, the departure of veteran performers, who really performed with passion and professionalism, is largely responsible. When we saw advertisements for scenes with Jolee, Francys Belle, Emily Pink, Jureka, Alexxa, Brittany Bardot... it was a guarantee that we would have high quality material (even if the formula was repeated for all scenes - setting, positions, etc.- we had a variety of human capital). Currently we only find Rebel Rhyder and Veronica Leal who are still going strong.

Another reason I point out is the site's sales model - through ticket purchases, instead of membership. This greatly compromises the popularization of new girls who have recently arrived. The user will think "is it better for me to spend my tks on scenes from performers that I know are good or take the risk of spending them for girls I haven't even heard of?". Ultimately, this ticket purchasing model is outdated and disregards the current economic scenario.

[Jaxkbnm]

It seems some fans are to addicted to the porn that graces our screens and can not see the forest for the trees. Who said Giorgio moved to Serbia? If he did where is the proof? Giorgio is struggling and said he has been for a while but fans say things will get better but things have instead got worse. WE should love porn but not be addicts to aviod the truth. LP is dead.

[maiserhans2]

Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

How about some content like in the past.
More scenes where the girls evolve and higher class?

Like Catherine Knight @xcatknightx or May thai?
Or revivals with Girls?

[dap-addict]

It seems some fans are to addicted to the porn that graces our screens and can not see the forest for the trees. Who said Giorgio moved to Serbia?

Not me, I said:

I'm surprised GIO's move to shoot some of his porn with Russian girls in Serbia hasnt been discussed more here.

And I linked the 5 scenes out of 14 release in July shot in Serbia.

Other question is who has proof that Giorgio directed all his GIO etc studios scenes so far? Is him stopping to direct changing so much really? - As fas as I know he started directing more scenes himself again, but most scenes were directed by others under his supervision.

[hjohjole]

Girogio dont want to shoot fresh Russian talent. He set this whole thing up to fail.

Im just surprised he didn't dress the girls up in clown costumes or that he didn't charge 30 tickets for a 1 on 1.
Oh look! The scenes are not doing well! Just like i knew they wouldn't!

So lets go back to sleep again. Lets shoot 200 more scenes with Anna De VIlle. Poor old man Giorgio needs to have his nice relaxing nap.

[visigoth2020260]

Other question is who has proof that Giorgio directed all his GIO etc studios scenes so far? Is him stopping to direct changing so much really? - As fas as I know he started directing more scenes himself again, but most scenes were directed by others under his supervision.

If someone else is the C-man behind the black background scenes, then that C-man is a great contender.
Can I write a few scripts for the black background studio?
With drama and lust, if everything is going down the drain, I guess it won't hurt to give me the opportunity.
I just want my name on the intro.(A Vi script)

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Girogio dont want to shoot fresh Russian talent. He set this whole thing up to fail.

Im just surprised he didn't dress the girls up in clown costumes or that he didn't charge 30 tickets for a 1 on 1.
Oh look! The scenes are not doing well! Just like i knew they wouldn't!

So lets go back to sleep again. Lets shoot 200 more scenes with Anna De VIlle. Poor old man Giorgio needs to have his nice relaxing nap.

Giorgio is relatively young, is he not in his 40s???

[isis666xxx]

which is that nun scene???? i wanna buy

whore nuns are holy

[Anselm_Weinberg]

which is that nun scene???? i wanna buy

whore nuns are holy

GIO2306
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/174183

[House MD]

Im not moving to Serbia
Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

Most likely I’m going to quit production and just release in my studio/s content shot/produced from other producers/directors

Please quit entirely, your production is just an absolute shitload of piss

[dap-addict]

Girogio dont want to shoot fresh Russian talent. He set this whole thing up to fail.

Thats just a mean hate post!
The 1on1 scenes shot in Serbia were more expensive because stud needed to be flown in from Prague. Also the 2 DAPs so far released are slightly more expensive in a transparent fair way because GIO flew his DAP stud crew in to guarantee the usual DAP quality. Investment into girls was a bit lower because of less travel and no visa costs but as far as I can tell that was taken into account.

The locally available girl performed fine it seems, but the direct ex-NRX imports failed. NRX girls already in the past were a hit or miss often tending to the later because of Nick production tricks. Could GIO have foreseen that? - Yes, but hope dies last.

[Giorgio Grandi]

What I read here seams written from ppl that never run a company
To run my company cost a lot, on the top of the cost of each single scene.

It’s simple math: buying containers of sun beds from China and re-sell them to wholesale with 10% margin would be less risky, more profitable (and needs less running cost) and provide long term stability (as in China there are tons of sun beds and in porn just a few models interested to get a huge dick up in the ass)

If on the top of this I can use my audience to sell content from other producers (so more variety of everything) with less risk for myself and less running cost and a small cut for me… that’s it

(I’m not going to sell sun beds, it’s just an example to explain my point )

I’m tired to do this, time to move on (I would have moved to sky similarity anyway before to turn 50y.o.)

[dap-addict]

It’s simple math
(...)
If on the top of this I can use my audience to sell content from other producers (so more variety of everything) with less risk for myself and less running cost and a small cut for me… that’s it

Ok, sure, but what you seem to calculate wrongly is that you will loose your audience once you stop shooting porn on your own Prague studio.

[Giorgio Grandi]

It’s simple math
(...)
If on the top of this I can use my audience to sell content from other producers (so more variety of everything) with less risk for myself and less running cost and a small cut for me… that’s it

Ok, sure, but what you seem to calculate wrongly is that you will loose your audience once you stop shooting porn on your own Prague studio.

You have a really wrong perception of what an audience is
An audience is who see the content I publish, to “lose it” they need to unfollow me
Someone will do it and will be compensated by new people following me

It will be an opportunity for new producers, this is good for the industry

[greenfunk727]

I am interested in the Russian girls shot in Serbia and it could still be a Winner.

I didn’t buy any of those scenes yet but more DAP and a few more models and I’ll start buying.

It was a good idea. It hasn’t been an instant success but if you started to shoot Eva Barbie/Sasha Paige etc etc in Classic GIO scenes you will print money.

[dap-addict]

It will be an opportunity for new producers, this is good for the industry

I see that, yes.
Will new producer(s) take over at least a part of your Prague studio? Or willl you just shut that whole place down?

[Giorgio Grandi]

It will be an opportunity for new producers, this is good for the industry

I see that, yes.
Will new producer(s) take over at least a part of your Prague studio? Or willl you just shut that whole place down?

Someone is probably taking over

[dap-addict]

That's good news!
When I opened that thread yesterday I expected completely other discussions to be honest. I still feel sorry for the Serbian co-ops, but I see it was a last try rather than a new opening. I really hope you didnt loose too much money there, Giorgio!

[2017sucks]

I had a weird feeling when suddenly no more Anna De Ville scenes. Any girl can be out shorter or longer but when no Anna, its a bad sign.

Thanks for the good memories, Giorgio, also for bad ones, it was fun, after all, I guess...

About running studio here, it was bad idea from the start, even if the scenes were successful...because soon, there will be fight against crazy dictator and his mafia, who sold beautiest part of our country, to Rio Tinto to mine a lithium. So, very soon, it will be us or them. And thats, not good environment to run a business, even if that mafia dont bother you directly.

About new players instead of you, I can just hope, as always, that multi girl scenes will be very rare. And that you will be careful in choosing, who will be releasing scenes, under famous GIO brand.

[Chimpy.677]

Russian models are not interesting, their performance is a lot below average and sales are terrible.

That's why I always said that people have bad tastes here, and that's why I said that "The problem with AV was always the users, never the studios."
LP went from being a hardcore DP porn page to a page with strange pissing, vomiting and prolapse fetishes, obviously that is only for a minority of users, the majority of people run away from that and therefore clients and potential clients run away. .

[misangrenegra2]

Is a big pity read your situation, Giorgio. The business seem to be a headache to you, including the financial terms, and surely more things.

The point is.. how everything fell to this situation?

No one can doubt that Gio's studio has been in the top, even now, in LP/AV. The studio has been my main porn provider during these years and this is a shock, but the situation in the last 4-5 years changed a lot (in terms of business, including this porn site)

Reading you seems that your studio will becomming in a "porn brand" on others directors can use that status to start-up their content, we will see how this will run..

PD:I read complains about the fetishes/niches as the consequence of this situation.

I don't have the numbers but, the majority of professional studios here implanted the sames fetishes/niches, not only GIorgio.

I'm agree that some of them were the cause of the escape of a % of customers but i guess that they studied the numbers to see that include them will be profitable.

Same situation was with the rise of the prices, and others users complained about the lack of ideas too.

This porn site, as a site that has professional porn studios, is one of the most expensives, but the content is worth it because you don't find this performing in other sites.. The truth is that surely the bunch of customers is little compared with some of the most famous porn sites as Brazzers.

These porn sites have really good prices, i guess because they count with a millions of clients arround the world.

[abaco73]

Passing over the fact that releasing scenes shot by others is really different from republish scenes already on the market without a clear advice (as today Jada Amor's scene already sold by LVT studio in may), that appears to me more of a uncorrect behaviour... and now I guess it's not the only one, lately I saw a few scenes with a strange background...

I still have to understand why, if studios and studios are closing down, the main website can't reconsider its policy.
Garbage and garbage published every day, tons of scenes rereleased without any advice.
Are they selling? If it's this way, peace, world is changed and we'll have to deal with it. If not, very difficult to understand why they're still walking this way instead of turning back.

By the way, I almost don't buy single scenes anymore and only go on with subscriptions.
I can't accept scenes cost 3 times more than 5 years ago. Inflation didn't rise this way. And if costs are 3 times more, well, something is not working, I don't know what it is (I'm not a producer) but still I will not accept it as a customer. I will not inflate my porn budget, and this is a fact.
If costs/income balance doesn't work, (and supposing actors' wages are the major cost) teach the girls (or studs) they have to choose between lower their wages or quit working at all.
If wages are not the major factor, look elsewhere.
If any product (let's say milk) costs today 3 € while 5 years ago costed 1 €, I'll quit buying it and switch to something else.
Then, if it's only me, milk producers have no problems. But if it's a whole bunch of customers (and it seems so, with studios closing and closing) then milk producers have to find a way to lower price to 2 € or close down.
Sure, I can't know about production costs and so on. But you as a producer know how much the average customer can (wants to) spend.

Gonzo is gone. NRX is gone. GG is going. Anal Teens/Latin teens/Bruno is just a major scam selling and reselling and reselling again. What remains now? Erika Korti is good, then Natasha Teen (who recently is doubling its prices and has no subscription, so is becoming a no buy for me). Mambo, still at 10tkt for a scene and I don't like anyway. Yummy, that is becoming almost about puking.

Something has to change

[jjwhite1985]

This all just comes down to the way the porn landscape has changed over the last few years, and especially since covid. There are many, many alternative platforms and services available now that allow performers to 100% control their content, work from home, earn more etc, as well as give consumers access to tailored and/or personalized content, all of which makes it more and more difficult to run a profitable "professional" porn studio.

Industries change all the time, it's just the way it is - think of how netflix and streaming have changed the TV industry. There isn't much to be done about it, you just have to find ways to adapt.

[hjohjole]

Thats just a mean hate post!

Ok, i was very upset and may have been carried away by negative emotions a bit to far when i made the post.
I apologize to Giorgio for the mean spirited post and others like it that i have made in the past.

I have calmed down now. But even you suspected it.

But they didnt even give it a chance to bloom with almost no advertisements and forum neglected because it's said to have too little traffic. But then were is more loyal customers traffic? And was there PR for this new endevour there? - I haven't seen it.
Was Serbian studio really just set-up from the start as self-fulfilling failure prophecy?

But i think now that Giorgio actually had genuine intentions and hopes for this endeavor. And that just makes me very sad. This truly is a tragedy.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

It will be an opportunity for new producers, this is good for the industry

I see that, yes.
Will new producer(s) take over at least a part of your Prague studio? Or willl you just shut that whole place down?

Someone is probably taking over

As a fan of the site, and your studio...I hope that this is not going to happen straight away. At least not for a while...and IF it HAD to happen, then I hope it will be taken over by someone who maintains the legacy and feel of the scenes.

[visigoth2020260]

It is all alright, he is a good man, and eventually you end up liking him.
See how he comes here and talks to us as if we were VIPs—we are to him.
He values our comments and knows the impact they have had on him.

As he stated, whoever came up with the idea of the piss shower was a genius.
Maybe it was you, or you, as we all made comments concerning that matter.

Nothing lasts forever, but it was a nice ride. Somehow, we all became directors @ M GG Studios.
many of us disregarded and made unfavorable comments but he never responded back or stopped
being a humble man.

I'm really going to miss the HITCHHICKING series.
The best porn series ever that only a real C-man could deliver was like a Hollywood experience, like one of those sexploitation flicks.

Please set rules and expectations for producers who want to release their production under your name.
Make sure they are humble. Do not let arrogant producers be part of your name, not even for a dollar.

I wish you the best that life has to offer.