John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

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John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby netzerkaiser » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG78fq6KAPA

I remember all these clowns going to school in mid-80's who really took themselves too seriously, but I'd no idea they were purely aping a middle-class American phenomenon promoting mediocre British bands in 'brat pack' films like St Elmo's fire & breakfast club.
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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby netzerkaiser » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG78fq6KAPA

I remember all these clowns going to school in mid-80's who really took themselves too seriously, but I'd no idea they were purely aping a middle-class American phenomenon promoting mediocre British bands in 'brat pack' films like St Elmo's fire & breakfast club.

40 years later, Andrew McCarthy still can't let it go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdNn1qIrRkc

That's life I guess...
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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby Iddaoeeok » Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:14 am

Simple Minds, "Empires and Dance", "Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call" and (especially) "New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)" are all good albums, well worth checking out. After that, they started trying to compete with U2 and lost it.

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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby Anselm_Weinberg » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:29 am

She really likes a band called Tears for Fears...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pbkP_cZpNLg
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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby netzerkaiser » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:29 am

Don't get me wrong, I think the guy was extremely gifted. It's just his clique-based movies had an unfortunate influence on a lot of adolescents that I'm only just grasping now! Its more self-realisation than anything!

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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby netzerkaiser » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:35 am

Anselm_Weinberg wrote:She really likes a band called Tears for Fears...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pbkP_cZpNLg


This is hilarious. I'm guessing its satire based on these movies & the British pop breakthrough of that time, where just like mid-60's, anything British passed the test.

Ah, I see this band, Kamikazee sex pilots were from Norwich in England. So they could look upon this USA 'brat' phenomenon with the cynical eye we could.

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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby netzerkaiser » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:40 am

Iddaoeeok wrote:Simple Minds, "Empires and Dance", "Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call" and (especially) "New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)" are all good albums, well worth checking out. After that, they started trying to compete with U2 and lost it.


Yeah, I guess we're all showing our age now! I edited original, it was a bit harsh! I guess people are entitled to be young!

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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby netzerkaiser » Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:27 pm

Nice interview where Molly Ringwald is calling out John Hughes legacy on a few points.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/perso ... ty-in-pink

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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby Anselm_Weinberg » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:39 am

On another note, I think the Japanese of today have to deal with a lot of similar shit by Westerners "appreciating" certain parts of supposedly "typical" Japanese pop-culture, including but not limited to certain kinds of music. Then again, maybe I am way off track with that assessment.
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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby Anselm_Weinberg » Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:29 pm

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Re: John Hughes has a lot to answer for:

Postby Anselm_Weinberg » Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:41 pm

Posted in the wrong topic, my bad.
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