dap-addict wrote:hyapet, since you know all so well, please explain me than why Lola Vivian gets 5 times less for her scenes than Rebel Rhyder?
Paizal wrote:
But I can still remember times when these girls also worked for Gonzo/GG....before it came to a breakdown.
dap-addict wrote:hyapet, since you know all so well, please explain me than why Lola Vivian gets 5 times less for her scenes than Rebel Rhyder?
dap-addict wrote:hyapet, since you know all so well, please explain me than why Lola Vivian gets 5 times less for her scenes than Rebel Rhyder?
hyapet wrote:I'm almost trying to get into the science of beauty here for a bit.
hyapet wrote:European women in general are fucking ugly.
Fucking ugly women.
The English? Monstrously ugly. The French? Disgustingly ugly. The Germans? They look more like men and sausages than their actual men and sausages do. I don't about you, but seeing a square jaw on a girl ain't fucking attractive. The Italians? They aren't all bad, but it's really an acquired taste. Like, do you like flat, straw-like, tanned, and hairy women? Well, go to Italy I guess. Portugal? Ewwwww. It goes on and on.
isis666xxx wrote:hyapet wrote:I'm almost trying to get into the science of beauty here for a bit.hyapet wrote:European women in general are fucking ugly.
Fucking ugly women.
The English? Monstrously ugly. The French? Disgustingly ugly. The Germans? They look more like men and sausages than their actual men and sausages do. I don't about you, but seeing a square jaw on a girl ain't fucking attractive. The Italians? They aren't all bad, but it's really an acquired taste. Like, do you like flat, straw-like, tanned, and hairy women? Well, go to Italy I guess. Portugal? Ewwwww. It goes on and on.
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hyapet wrote:Her breasts are spectacular (and natural! - super important).
YumYum74 wrote:hyapet wrote:Her breasts are spectacular (and natural! - super important).
Rebel Rhyder does 100% NOT have natural breasts, dude.
hjohjole wrote:Paizal wrote:
But I can still remember times when these girls also worked for Gonzo/GG....before it came to a breakdown.
There is absolutely no reason why we still couldn't have that today.
Paizal wrote:There is one - pretty girls only need to hint at their nipples and thousands of idiots pay $50 on OF for it. The attraction of porn money to pretty girls no longer exists. Respectively, it has been replaced by OF money.
hyapet wrote:
OF knocked porn on it's ass. But OF isn't this invincible mega-machine that no-one can beat.
It's something that the clever porn studios will learn how to co-exist with.
Paizal wrote:I am much more pessimistic about this. OF showed me that many consumers were never interested in porn, but in connecting with the girls. OF porn is absolute crap, but many men seem to love interacting with the girls. Even if that interaction is fake.So I think the next big thing will be AI. AI will kill both - OF and studio porn. Men will do what they are currently doing with OF girls - pretending to be in a fake relationship. They will decide what the girl looks like, how she acts, what she does and so on. No other medium will be able to offer this kind of sex.
dap-addict wrote:AI saveing real porn is a nice idea!
I hope you are right here, your argumentation sounds right to me actually.
At least far more than the white race vs other races thing and the dont do DAP soon call of yours.
magizi87 wrote:WHERE are all these beautiful girls people talk about?
how many pages I need to scroll down to find a single beautiul woman on the Giorgio Grandi Studio section.
Spoiler alert, you have to scroll WHOLE years worth of content to find one.
Piss and DAP drove beautiful women off this platform.
That's just the simple truth.
Go to ANY other porn webstie that stays away from this horseshit, they are filled with beauties in their PRIME.
magizi87 wrote:WHERE are all these beautiful girls people talk about?
how many pages I need to scroll down to find a single beautiul woman on the Giorgio Grandi Studio section.
Spoiler alert, you have to scroll WHOLE years worth of content to find one.
Piss and DAP drove beautiful women off this platform.
That's just the simple truth.
Go to ANY other porn webstie that stays away from this horseshit, they are filled with beauties in their PRIME.
Paizal wrote:I am much more pessimistic about this. OF showed me that many consumers were never interested in porn, but in connecting with the girls. OF porn is absolute crap, but many men seem to love interacting with the girls. Even if that interaction is fake.So I think the next big thing will be AI. AI will kill both - OF and studio porn. Men will do what they are currently doing with OF girls - pretending to be in a fake relationship. They will decide what the girl looks like, how she acts, what she does and so on. No other medium will be able to offer this kind of sex.
davebowman wrote:Paizal wrote:I am much more pessimistic about this. OF showed me that many consumers were never interested in porn, but in connecting with the girls. OF porn is absolute crap, but many men seem to love interacting with the girls. Even if that interaction is fake.So I think the next big thing will be AI. AI will kill both - OF and studio porn. Men will do what they are currently doing with OF girls - pretending to be in a fake relationship. They will decide what the girl looks like, how she acts, what she does and so on. No other medium will be able to offer this kind of sex.
Models are going to be using AI as well - even if they are still physically filming videos/taking photos, the time-consuming business of promoting and running on social media, chatting to fans etc will just be farmed out to AI and chatbots. The big-name girls already have other people actually running their social media feeds pretending to be them, but AI is going to make all this automated - I think in the short-term at least, it's going to make it easier for amateur girls to run OF accounts.
Then give it another 20 years when AI generated fake porn videos will be impossible to distinguish from real filmed sex acts, and the whole industry is going to collapse. Ultimately it will all be user generated, with no real girls involved at all (other than the millions of actresses the AI has been trained on).
davebowman wrote:The big-name girls already have other people actually running their social media feeds pretending to be them, but AI is going to make all this automated - I think in the short-term at least, it's going to make it easier for amateur girls to run OF accounts.
magizi87 wrote:if the point is to make money, please explain how is that you are making more money, with ugly girls.
netzerkaiser wrote:I'm quietly confident AI will die. The Earth needs to cut back on all the useless consummation of water & energy that goes into this crap. social media will die. We'll be back to using ploughs with 'the heavy gear' stored for a crisis.
I hope this happens, anyway.
magizi87 wrote:WHERE are all these beautiful girls people talk about?
how many pages I need to scroll down to find a single beautiul woman on the Giorgio Grandi Studio section.
Spoiler alert, you have to scroll WHOLE years worth of content to find one.
Piss and DAP drove beautiful women off this platform.
That's just the simple truth.
Go to ANY other porn webstie that stays away from this horseshit, they are filled with beauties in their PRIME.
magizi87 wrote:if the point is to make money, please explain how is that you are making more money, with ugly girls.
hyapet wrote:European women in general are fucking ugly.
Fucking ugly women.
The English? Monstrously ugly. The French? Disgustingly ugly. The Germans? They look more like men and sausages than their actual men and sausages do. I don't about you, but seeing a square jaw on a girl ain't fucking attractive. The Italians? They aren't all bad, but it's really an acquired taste. Like, do you like flat, straw-like, tanned, and hairy women? Well, go to Italy I guess. Portugal? Ewwwww. It goes on and on.
petermc934 wrote:The notion that pee is the thing that scares hot girls away is silly. Loads of hot porn performers shoot pee scenes. In the early days of OF, it was full of top US pornstars shooting exclusive scenes with pissing before OF clamped down on it. Even now creators like 2Drops, Disciples Of Desire, Hookup Hotshot shoot piss scenes with top pornstars. Piss is pretty easy to shoot. Getting anally gangbanged hard and rough with huge dicked guys doing DAP, TAP etc is not so easy and I have no doubt that this is what scares a lot of girls away. If AVLP was just normal one on one scenes with anal and pissing, you’d still get hot girls here more regularly. That being said there are still some pretty hot girls here such as Nuria Milan, Kristy Black, Vivian Lola, Baby Kxtten, Veronica Leal, Monika Fox, Ria Sunn, Qweensg, Mina and Greta Foss to name a few.
hyapet wrote:That being said, people dumping on Giorgio like as if he decided to put up his feet one day and say, "Fuck it - I'm not going to try anymore," is horrific bullshit. The fact that the actresses are still coming through the AVLP doors that are is a testament to the amount of game and brains the man has. If it weren't for him doing everything he could, things would be a lot worse.
So seeing people on here take the piss out of him really irks me. Fuck off with that, "You used to be good," bullshit that people are throwing at him. If they were in any kind of situation similar to this in their own industry, you know what you would read on their website? "Out of Business." The man's pulled a miracle to get the girls he has to shoot for him.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Because there is a difference between an average girl doing this and a super hot girl doing that, sale wise, on long term.
In porn you make money shooting the same girl 50 time, you dont make money shooting a girl 2-3 time.
In average
With a hot girl that does anal and DP maybe I can make good money on short term, but with the amount of money she will start soon to get as Content Creator, she wont be available to perform anymore pretty soon.
A less hot girl will continue to perform for other longer time and more willing to experiment with DAP and Pee. A model performing DAP and Pee doesnt sell because she looks hot only, she sells because the niches she explores are highly selling compering to anal and DP.
hjohjole wrote:Yeah what a miracle worker Giorgio is. He managed to get Vittoria Devine for yet another scene today. How the fuck did he pull that one off? Amazing!
Look. He even says it himself that he is deliberately looking for less hot girls that he can shoot for as many scenes as possible.
misangrenegra2 wrote:For me is an accurate argue because porn and life is not like 20 years ago on you could find top hot girls that wanted to work in the adult industry and keep them in long terms.
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But basically there weren't the opportunity and ways to do what the women can do currently with all those plataforms, who knows what could happened.
Gmoney18 wrote:I cannot tell giorgio how to do what is best for his business in new age of fans sites. But speaking as a customer i hope the return of kristy signals that giorgio is more willing to regularly pay for girls like kristy, alicia, lina, silvia, nicole, monika, elen, etc. I long ago cancelled membership because there just is not enough scenes with these models i like being released on a monthly basis. But i am still more than willing to pay 20-25+ euro for giorgio scenes with these models.
dap-addict wrote:Looks like LTP stopped production in Medellin!
After some fraudulent re-releases mid May nothing new except BTS since!
dap-addict wrote:Looks like LTP stopped production in Medellin!
After some fraudulent re-releases mid May nothing new except BTS since!
pfetish206 wrote:Good we need a slowdown. Most studios produce the same scenes anyway. Its not the end of the world. New studios are not needed so they can do what, make the same video. Enjoy the decline. I rather two studios make quality then 100 make utter shit. We have two many studios too be honestly. This slowdown only disadvantage is more higher ticket prices.
hyapet wrote:European women in general are fucking ugly.
Fucking ugly women.
The English? Monstrously ugly. The French? Disgustingly ugly. The Germans? They look more like men and sausages than their actual men and sausages do. I don't about you, but seeing a square jaw on a girl ain't fucking attractive. The Italians? They aren't all bad, but it's really an acquired taste. Like, do you like flat, straw-like, tanned, and hairy women? Well, go to Italy I guess. Portugal? Ewwwww. It goes on and on.
magizi87 wrote:WHERE are all these beautiful girls people talk about?
how many pages I need to scroll down to find a single beautiul woman on the Giorgio Grandi Studio section.
Spoiler alert, you have to scroll WHOLE years worth of content to find one.
Piss and DAP drove beautiful women off this platform.
That's just the simple truth.
Go to ANY other porn webstie that stays away from this horseshit, they are filled with beauties in their PRIME.
Buck_Meister wrote:What's that have to do with OF content cannibalizing DP/DAP/TAP releases???
Proves single-handedly that OF is actually irrelevant and a BS pretense for your slowdown
Christopher_Williams1 wrote:I just hate it when people pick a figure that only like the top 10 earners of the entire platform make. I did sign up for Kira Thorn fanpage, briefly, and it wasn't really for me, so I unsubscribed. I don't know her finances, but it's apparent that it wasn't enough to maintain the page, as it has now been like a year since she last logged in. And while I was there, I noticed that the interaction of her fans on the page was very minimal. And we could probably agree that she is pretty and should be a top 10% earner at the very least.
But yeah, I don't think OF complicates how competitive an offer can be to a performer.
I do agree that performing can be a stepping stone, but it rarely propels them to where an actress would rather be.
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