POLL: Compassion and true care for porn girls?

[xxxVIPERxxx]

The answer is simple and it is NEVER.

Nothing great is ever achieved by being extremely easy.
Anyone experienced in life and experienced in genuine leadership/management will know that.

[dap-addict]

I see the NEVER option is still at 56%!
Checked this tread again because I feel a shift last half year or so with me towards that long rejected poll option myself. For me it's probabely rooted in caring way too much, listening too much to porn girls playing on those feelings a bit maybe, but then rejecting their fans at a point. I'm talking about social media contacts mainly, but could be OFy or Cam as well, though me I never did pay for such offers.
Anyway, I remember a longer discussion I had with Mya Diamonds ex or somebody posing as her ex almost exactly 10years ago. That guy was very upset than about her Gonzo treatment by JomJon I think during her 1st DP. Mya had just returned to porn after some years of break and he obviously didnt approve of that. He first posed as Mya herself and complained bitterly, but during our discussion I cought him. The whole situation made me first wanna her to leave and them both just to be happy together... But then I realized I was manipulated and that guy just had problems, while Mya was way okay, and also open for harder porn sex basically.
Anyway, I remembered this today after some talk with a girl in vaginal pain after a classic anal porn shot she did perform but wasnt really agreed upon. A porngirl very dear to me and I conceded I'd wish sometimes she'd leave altogether if she isnt able to say no to pussy sex on set. But then again I do want her to carry on with her hot anal performance ofc. It's way of a no-way decision and maybe better just not to care and to vote NEVER!

[dap-addict]

Btw, I tried to buy a Mya Diamond DAP than in 2014, but eventually failed because she or both of them decided suddenly to ask more money, way beyond my red line. Have actually regretted that later because her DAPbreakin' would have been porn historic!

[xxxVIPERxxx]

True compassion, and true care for the porn girls is to support their work. Pay for their scenes, be positive and complimentary about their work.

They work hard to produce quality content. They should and need to be paid. Their confidence needs to be built up. That is the best form of compassion and care.

Wishing them to quit, what else would they turn to? How will they look after and support their kids, family, themselves?

Most girls who end up quitting porn, or doing reduced porn, or have internet trolls/negativity spreading about them end up having terrible, drastic things happen to them.
I want them to be happy, to enjoy their porn work, to grow in their job, and most importantly to be financially paid...that will keep everyone happy.

[dap-addict]

True compassion, and true care for the porn girls is to support their work. Pay for their scenes, be positive and complimentary about their work.

They work hard to produce quality content. They should and need to be paid. Their confidence needs to be built up. That is the best form of compassion and care.

Wishing them to quit, what else would they turn to?

Again, Viper, you make me really at least partly agree now and thus also question my 2015 OP post.
But then my experience is its better just to support them by silently buying their scenes but also keeping quiet. Because last time I insited on a porn girl being payed for her scenes in time and later again on the same level fee as before I got into sorta double fight with that girl as well as her main studio.

It basically seems to me today that most porn girls want their work supporters porn users and buyers of their scenes as well as their social media subscribers to get well past 20k on IGy etc but they want them silent or just blindly supportive with always the same repetitive phrases of how hot etc. It's way silly for me still, way of an empty non-com communication just to get the IGy algorithm fine or just to get OFy subscriptions.

[dap-addict]

Wishing them to quit, what else would they turn to? How will they look after and support their kids, family, themselves?

There is so many other options!
Basically ranging from Paris/Dubai to supermarket casher to lawyer.
But ofc every supportive porn fan wants his porn girls to stay in porn!

[bladblabla2019]

I only start to worry about them when they abuse their own bodies with messed up plastic surgery.

The truth is the most of porn is artificial. And when I call them sluts and whores, which turns me on, that is also a role play.

[Chimpy.677]

What care are they talking about? As if the girls didn't know what they were doing. Some people talk as if they knew women's bodies. If a girl agreed to do the scene it's because she knows what she's going to do, period.

If an 18-year-old girl agrees to do her first DAP in her first porn scene, I wouldn't have to have compassion or special care for her. They get paid to do that. If I hired her for a hardcore scene with DAP, it's obvious that the scene is going to be about hard sex. It's known beforehand, she knows what she came for.

[pornlover_holland]

What care are they talking about? As if the girls didn't know what they were doing. Some people talk as if they knew women's bodies. If a girl agreed to do the scene it's because she knows what she's going to do, period.

If an 18-year-old girl agrees to do her first DAP in her first porn scene, I wouldn't have to have compassion or special care for her. They get paid to do that. If I hired her for a hardcore scene with DAP, it's obvious that the scene is going to be about hard sex. It's known beforehand, she knows what she came for.

Exactly, when I watch anal I wanna see destroyed assholes. Groups of guys fucking a girl in the ass non-stop. If she can;t handle that she must not do that. But that is what is expected by many anal porn fans. Just find the right girls who can do that and don;t complain afterward because the scene was very rough.

[fister2]

Never. If they are in agreement what they do, everything (legal) is fine. Of course if there is some unethical pressure behind scenes, then I have full compassion for the actressess.

[misangrenegra2]

I don't understand why some users are understanding the compassion/care about what kind of stuff they do instead of the stigma or consequences that they could have for make porn.

I'm very grateful with all the women who decided be a pornstar.

I'm a person that consume porn since long time and i only have good words and admiration for the women who are willing to perform all those sexual acts that i love.

About the content, they are enough grow up to decide what shoot, is fine is a woman decides shoot more soft content or if she wants shoot hardcore. There are enough demand and public for both styles, i'm happy that there are a lot of women that decided shoot hardcore.

The best i can do is support their works, i enjoy all the great stuff that they do.

As someone who respect and admire their profession, i want that they can work without problems and in a comfortable and secure environment, also that they recieve a fair treat.

In the majority of cases, i would like that their profession would'n be the cause of recive negativity or some kind of stigmatitation.

Out of porn, that they can be happy with what they do and have a good life.

[dap-addict]

If an 18-year-old girl agrees to do her first DAP in her first porn scene, I wouldn't have to have compassion or special care for her. They get paid to do that. If I hired her for a hardcore scene with DAP, it's obvious that the scene is going to be about hard sex. It's known beforehand, she knows what she came for.

You seem to have never heard about scouts luring girls dreaming of glam model careers or softcore romantics to hardcore studios!
World isnt full of responsible people!
And unfortunately many girls dont train enough for hard anal sex in porn realities. They see the money only and wanna earn it as fast as possible and as easy as possible. If agent doesnt explain to them that 20% of fee is for pre-scene preparation they have to do it the hard way on set already. Some of them crack there!
It's a huge loss of time and money also for studios!

[isis666xxx]

performing on set seemed too hard for her?

performing on set is quite easy with training

what they should do is protect their emotions

compassion and true care is to make them feel good mentally

they are masochistic whores that like to get fucked hard in the asshole

emotions are the most important thing in life

make them feel good mentally, thats the true care

[TheVulture]

Exactly, when I watch anal I wanna see destroyed assholes. Groups of guys fucking a girl in the ass non-stop. If she can;t handle that she must not do that. But that is what is expected by many anal porn fans. Just find the right girls who can do that and don;t complain afterward because the scene was very rough.

You talk as though every young girl who likes anal sex and wants to get into porn should be able to perform at a blistering level from the first day they enter the studio. If not, they're not ready, get them out and tell them to stop wasting our time. Is that about right?

Do you apply the same rationale to sport? A talented 18 year-old footballer should instantly step into a Champions League arena and light it up with a stellar game-winning performance, right? If not, get them out the door and get the cheque book out to sign the next £150 million player, because nothing else will do.

No, of course you don't. You almost certainly understand the concept of natural progression in all areas of life except for porn. Why? Because you are a selfish man-child crying into your keyboard if you don't have at least 10 new young girls being physically overpowered for your £20 monthly subscription fee.

Obviously the point is to find said young anal-friendly girls and develop them at the pace that best suits them. In a few cases this might be fairly instant gangbang and DAP but for most girls you probably want to ease them in more slowly. I would question if the default manhandle/wrestling style of modern porn is the best way to entice young girls into the industry but that's just me. I don't even see that as compassion, just common sense. Sadly, you are typical of the modern porn consumer and right now we reap what people like you sow.

[TheVulture]

performing on set is quite easy with training

what they should do is protect their emotions

compassion and true care is to make them feel good mentally

they are masochistic whores that like to get fucked hard in the asshole

emotions are the most important thing in life

make them feel good mentally, thats the true care

This is a very good post. For me the things I find most unpalatable when viewing modern porn are more psychological than physical. Too often the studs - and there are very obvious repeat offenders - seem dead set on making the girls uncomfortable and asserting their dominance in quietly subtle but nonetheless noticeable ways, of which there are really too many to even begin to list here. This was something you pretty much never saw until about 15 years ago, when you could just pretty much take it as read that the performers at least had a mutual respect for each other as human beings, regardless of how much chemistry there was between them. I think this can be put down to the modern studs being clapped out, artificially-enhanced and essentially angry with themselves, which they take out on the girls, whereas the earlier studs were generally younger and more libidinous.

I would genuinely love to know how the girls feel after some of the worst examples but I think this would be very hard to ascertain. Most of them probably shrug it off and view it as part of the job. However, again it's clear that this isn't good for the future of porn. You're absolutely right that the directors and studs should treat the girls well - for me, this would start with making them feel more like the driver of any scene (not the guys and their woeful "bro" style of screen energy), allowing them to relax more so that they feel truly horny and making every effort to enhance rather than diminish any lust coming out of them. Often I feel like the studs feel threatened by a girl showing some lust and move into thug mode to dampen it down. That's a disaster not only for the scene itself but the future of porn. We're too much down the rabbit hole of angry, joyless porn made by and for dysfunctional dudes. The very best advice I think I would give to any male director/stud right now....chill the fuck out. Relax and let the girl(s) on screen pick up the slack. And if they simply can't do that, get out of the industry.

[pornlover_holland]

Exactly, when I watch anal I wanna see destroyed assholes. Groups of guys fucking a girl in the ass non-stop. If she can;t handle that she must not do that. But that is what is expected by many anal porn fans. Just find the right girls who can do that and don;t complain afterward because the scene was very rough.

You talk as though every young girl who likes anal sex and wants to get into porn should be able to perform at a blistering level from the first day they enter the studio. If not, they're not ready, get them out and tell them to stop wasting our time. Is that about right?

Do you apply the same rationale to sport? A talented 18 year-old footballer should instantly step into a Champions League arena and light it up with a stellar game-winning performance, right? If not, get them out the door and get the cheque book out to sign the next £150 million player, because nothing else will do.

I was talking about the porn films I watch. Of course, there are all kinds of other porn, too. And I understand that women might want to start off gently. I just don't watch that kind myself.

No, of course you don't. You almost certainly understand the concept of natural progression in all areas of life except for porn. Why? Because you are a selfish man-child crying into your keyboard if you don't have at least 10 new young girls being physically overpowered for your £20 monthly subscription fee.

When I subscribe to a website, I always choose ones featuring plenty of anal sex—specifically, the rough kind. That’s why I’m a fan of LegalPorno: beautiful women having hardcore anal sex with a group of men.

Obviously the point is to find said young anal-friendly girls and develop them at the pace that best suits them. In a few cases this might be fairly instant gangbang and DAP but for most girls you probably want to ease them in more slowly. I would question if the default manhandle/wrestling style of modern porn is the best way to entice young girls into the industry but that's just me. I don't even see that as compassion, just common sense. Sadly, you are typical of the modern porn consumer and right now we reap what people like you sow.

It's fine if they start out gently. I'll check them out once they start doing the hardcore stuff in porn. And if they don't, I won't watch their films.

[Kalessin]

I think I'm a mixed bag on this. My very favorite porn is when a girl is being mercilessly ruthlessly assfucked into the ground, but I can also see myself saying enough is enough if it looks like it's going too far. I remmeber the first time I saw the Cody Lane blue room scene and needed a bit to process that.