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How was 2023

Postby zaisafi » Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:02 am

Haw Was 2023 for Giorgio Grandi Studio ? For Me 50/50

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Christopher_Williams1 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:49 am

I joined in 2021 and became a huge fan, so of course 2021 was a good year. I also loved 2022. Now for 2023, it definitely wasn't as good as 2021 or 2022, which is pretty evident based on how many videos I grabbed from 2021 or 2022 vs. 2023.

For me, we saw some of the same girls a lot. If you really like them, then that's not too much of a problem. I also understand that it's good for the chick to be able to repeatedly go back to the same studio in order to make a living. Now, one thing that punched me very hard in the face that year (2023) was the fact that GIO is mostly a gangbang service. Why is that a problem? Okay, so let's say you're not a fan of a particular chick. Well, no problem, none of them appear more than 5 times during a given month and definitely no more than 15 times in a given year. If it's a particular guy you're tired of seeing, then that might be a problem as they can appear in 70% of all the scenes, leaving you with only 30% you would even consider buying. You won't have that problem in a non gangbang service such as Bangbros, Pornworld, Brazzers, Blacked, or etc. It would be nice to a better distribution of BWC scenes, mixed-boys scenes, and BBC scenes, to try keep everybody happy.

I'm a subscriber of Dredd OF. I'm a fan and it's crazy how many big-name chicks he can do a homemade video with. I do admit that he should improve the recording quality because he makes really hot chicks look average with the bad camera angles. I can watch dozens of his videos of him banging a chick. Some guys, I don't care to see. And it actually becomes super annoying after a while to the point that I just stop buying. Not sure if 2024 will return to 2022 level of excitement, but we never know, another studio might pop up that brings the same level of vibe that GIO offered in 2022.

Also, I heard that GIO changed the payout structure, so that might be the reason why we see the popular chicks more often as they have an idea of what they might earn. A new chick might be hesitant. We did get some new chicks though. I think I still need to observe a little bit more before concluding that the new payout structure might not be as good for getting new chicks in the door. But if it's more stainable, then that's the way it should remain.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Paizal » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:54 am

It was a lost year for me because I'm not a jaded porn addict and quickly lose interest in the same old thing. For me, the last few days are exemplary for the GG system. The old year ends with Anna De Ville and the new one begins with Rebel Ryder. On the one hand, I find it incredibly boring, but also quite disturbing.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Sandyoliphant92 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:18 am

Christopher_Williams1 wrote:I joined in 2021 and became a huge fan, so of course 2021 was a good year. I also loved 2022. Now for 2023, it definitely wasn't as good as 2021 or 2022, which is pretty evident based on how many videos I grabbed from 2021 or 2022 vs. 2023.

For me, we saw some of the same girls a lot. If you really like them, then that's not too much of a problem. I also understand that it's good for the chick to be able to repeatedly go back to the same studio in order to make a living. Now, one thing that punched me very hard in the face that year (2023) was the fact that GIO is mostly a gangbang service. Why is that a problem? Okay, so let's say you're not a fan of a particular chick. Well, no problem, none of them appear more than 5 times during a given month and definitely no more than 15 times in a given year. If it's a particular guy you're tired of seeing, then that might be a problem as they can appear in 70% of all the scenes, leaving you with only 30% you would even consider buying. You won't have that problem in a non gangbang service such as Bangbros, Pornworld, Brazzers, Blacked, or etc. It would be nice to a better distribution of BWC scenes, mixed-boys scenes, and BBC scenes, to try keep everybody happy.

I'm a subscriber of Dredd OF. I'm a fan and it's crazy how many big-name chicks he can do a homemade video with. I do admit that he should improve the recording quality because he makes really hot chicks look average with the bad camera angles. I can watch dozens of his videos of him banging a chick. Some guys, I don't care to see. And it actually becomes super annoying after a while to the point that I just stop buying. Not sure if 2024 will return to 2022 level of excitement, but we never know, another studio might pop up that brings the same level of vibe that GIO offered in 2022.

Also, I heard that GIO changed the payout structure, so that might be the reason why we see the popular chicks more often as they have an idea of what they might earn. A new chick might be hesitant. We did get some new chicks though. I think I still need to observe a little bit more before concluding that the new payout structure might not be as good for getting new chicks in the door. But if it's more stainable, then that's the way it should remain.
I agree wholeheartedly you couldn’t have summed this up any better i too became a member in 2021 & in fact became a fan of the content on this site. Never before had I seen such graphic and filthy porn on the web and the way GG studios were presenting different girls daily new chicks weekly! Man you couldn’t ask for more. Although 2023 brought some pretty girls and talent to the mix the studio faced a major decline compared to the first 2 years I’ve been here. And it’s sad to say that this studio may have reached its peak in quality as far as what we have seen in the last few months.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Sandyoliphant92 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:24 am

Paizal wrote:It was a lost year for me because I'm not a jaded porn addict and quickly lose interest in the same old thing. For me, the last few days are exemplary for the GG system. The old year ends with Anna De Ville and the new one begins with Rebel Ryder. On the one hand, I find it incredibly boring, but also quite disturbing.
why do you find it disturbing? Not that I disagree with what you are saying just want to know what about it you find disturbing. But yes this studio and overall site has pretty much went to shit..GG in particular does not give you any new talent like before or even add a mix to the girls he already frequently shoots! It’s always De Ville or Rebel Rhyder or Ria Sunn or some othe generic boney model no variation in race body type or sex act just the same old boring shit with piss wash rinse repeat. 2024 maybe a make or break year for GG. I have 17 tickets left over from last week. In 2021 these tickets wouldn’t have last a day with the quality of filth that there was on this site to purchase

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Paizal » Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:30 pm

Sandyoliphant92 wrote: why do you find it disturbing? Not that I disagree with what you are saying just want to know what about it you find disturbing.



These tons of RR and ADV scenes that GG shoots over and over again are also bought by someone. And the behavior of buying the same scene over and over again at very high prices has something pathological, something disturbing for me. As if these buyers are pathologically addicted to porn and can no longer differentiate that they are consuming the same thing over and over again. Almost like zombies.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Buck_Meister » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:35 am

That's a No-brainer
Finding genuine nympho cumbucket whores is a rare ressource well sought after in the industry
It happens Anna de Ville and Rebel Rhyder are amongst the rare authentic ball drainers of this site
Hence, it's totally understandable and even desirable they shoot scores of videos featuring rough intense extreme gangbangs
I'd rather watch them than wasting time eye-balling a freeloading girl, GG dragged into shooting tip-fucking sex with hardly any consistent penetration
I can't stand fake superficial slow-motion porn

What I find destructive but also stupid are the invasion of piss scenes in GG scenes... it's so pervasive and insidious that any remaining real actual fucking scenes are of poor quality and brief
Piss here is so ludicrous that it replaced the default money-hot, i.e. jizzing inside a chick's mouth here is replaced by the chick taking a golden shower: to me this nonsense destroyed hardcore porn leveling it down to soft boring content: who would jerk at that - can only be old retired farts

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Re: How was 2023

Postby visigoth2020260 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:38 pm

Some good points are made here.
I will not agree with the no-pee. I believe that would mean the end.

When a model has momentum, it must be exploited to the max.
taking great care to use diversity because if you become repetitive,
a great portion of spectators will become unaroused by the models
continue appearance.

here i go again ( porn is more than sex.)
you must find ways to glue
the spectators to their screens, cinematography introductions.
Make storylines that will arouse the viewer's imagination. Soon, the viewers
will be buying the scene for its non-sex acts; it is that little flare that makes
the difference.
just like a drink, you can not serve it without something to pour it in.
Your hardcore sex is the cup, but you need to fill it with delicious liquids.
and those are the storylines.
I have already proposed for the girls to run. be chased, be rescued, hold up gambling joints to pay debts—the list is endless.

Anyway, I hope in 2024 we.
I meant to say for you to break the rules.
Sure, there is a way to save the day.
After every commercial, it happened.

I want to see medieval ladies get done.
Romeo and Juliet go at it.
There are so many things to pour into your cup.
medieval-ladies-in-their-fancy-mary-evans-picture-library.jpg
I think Rebel Rhyder will look so beautiful in her virgin costume.
she decides to smell some flowers as she strolls through the park
now feels dizzy, almost fainting.
She closes her eyes and is transported like in a dream; now she is in this weird place that looks like nothing she has ever seen before, full of guys staring at her. She panics and runs to the door, only to wake up from her dizzy spell.
now afraid but curious, wanting not to smell that flower again.

So it happened a couple of times before she was suddenly seized by the guys before she made it back to the door.

A Wet Fairy Tale.


Clothing is lust.
and most will be off in due time.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby dap-addict » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:40 pm

Christopher_Williams1 wrote:Also, I heard that GIO changed the payout structure, so that might be the reason why we see the popular chicks more often as they have an idea of what they might earn. A new chick might be hesitant.

Giorgio Grandi changed the payout structure only once - in a test round for Anna de Ville - as far as I gathered. He wrote about but then never came back to it.
Looks like its plans, but not implemented yet and maybe never will be.
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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:44 am

I am a positive, yet factually realistic person (in my opinion).
I stand to be corrected if any of the facts that I speak of are incorrect.

For me, I think LPAV scenes, and in particular GIO studio scenes improved midway through the year...I think around July to August 2023 time, overall data of sold scenes started to return to a more normal level compared to previous lulls/declines. Since then, it has maintained a fairly consistent approach in terms of quality and scene purchases by paying customers (but still below peak times).

It was nice to see a wider range of talents, more MILF performers in the 30ish and above age category, buttrose porn, male fisting, puking etc...on top of what LPAV is well known for...wet play e.g. squirting, pissing, pee drinking, piss showers, hard anal action e.g. DAP and beyond, balls deep anal, rough sex etc.

I would love to see more of the HORNY FOOD CRITIC series in 2024 and beyond. In addition, I think it would be nice to get more MILFS like Francys Belle, Syren de Mer, Brittany Bardot, Adeline, and many others like them to perform on a more regular and consistent basis.

The recent Francys Belle scene released today was incredible, after 40 minutes of watching it, my partner and I climaxed to it.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby rroper472 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:32 am

MORE BIG BOOTY TALENT PLEASE!! :D :D

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Re: How was 2023

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:16 pm

rroper472 wrote:MORE BIG BOOTY TALENT PLEASE!! :D :D


Feminine girls with big asses, and big tits yet are slim to curvy body physiques are very popular...let's hope they can find more of such models

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Re: How was 2023

Postby isis111 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:22 pm

Oh yes, this topic is definitely for me, I've been watching this site since Blanche Bradburry, Proxy Paige, and all the other old but better guard than the current crap were still here, it really pisses me off that every night I come in hoping to see new ones talents, but over and over again I have to watch the same actresses, the aforementioned ones, I’m already sick of these Anna De Ville or whatever the fuck is right, I’m so not interested in her that I don’t even know how to spell her pseudonym and the other guard of actresses whom we see here every day, Rebel, I’m also tired of the fact that the scene is not like this with her, the studio is now in a crisis, there are no new girls, they exploit the same ones, this is crazy shit that I’m not the only one who noticed, it makes me happy, I hope this year this tired trend of the same actresses will end with them retiring or let them fuck off in online life, I’m tired of looking at the same holes, we need to bring in more new juicy girls with big ass and tits, the bony ones need to be put in the closet

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Re: How was 2023

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isis, your negativity is so fucking motivating! :mad: ;)
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On a serious note: You seem not to realize how big a risk new girls are with big base production costs nowadays. It's no wonder new girls are scouted mainly in Russia, Brasil and Colombia. Go to these studios and you will find your rookie girls - and the most talented ones you will also find GIO, but I guess you'll deny even that! :mad: :confused:
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Re: How was 2023

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:40 pm

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am a positive, yet factually realistic person (in my opinion).
I stand to be corrected if any of the facts that I speak of are incorrect.

For me, I think LPAV scenes, and in particular GIO studio scenes improved midway through the year...I think around July to August 2023 time, overall data of sold scenes started to return to a more normal level compared to previous lulls/declines. Since then, it has maintained a fairly consistent approach in terms of quality and scene purchases by paying customers (but still below peak times).

It was nice to see a wider range of talents, more MILF performers in the 30ish and above age category, buttrose porn, male fisting, puking etc...on top of what LPAV is well known for...wet play e.g. squirting, pissing, pee drinking, piss showers, hard anal action e.g. DAP and beyond, balls deep anal, rough sex etc.

I would love to see more of the HORNY FOOD CRITIC series in 2024 and beyond. In addition, I think it would be nice to get more MILFS like Francys Belle, Syren de Mer, Brittany Bardot, Adeline, and many others like them to perform on a more regular and consistent basis.

The recent Francys Belle scene released today was incredible, after 40 minutes of watching it, my partner and I climaxed to it.


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Re: How was 2023

Postby isis111 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:06 pm

dap-addict wrote:On a serious note: You seem not to realize how big a risk new girls are with big base production costs nowadays. It's no wonder new girls are scouted mainly in Russia, Brasil and Colombia. Go to these studios and you will find your rookie girls - and the most talented ones you will also find GIO, but I guess you'll deny even that! :mad: :confused:



bro, I’m not a porn scout, I don’t know how the search for new actresses works, if I could put some effort into this, maybe I would do it, but you must admit that in Russia and Colombia or somewhere else you can find girls, besides, it’s not for nothing that South America is famous for girls at arms in luscious forms, in Natasha’s studio there is a clear example of Cheyla Collins, in Russia there are also many luscious girls, for example the same Lina Brilliant, these two girls came to my mind immediately because their figure is an art, which is worth only their tits, both of them just have crazy tits, another thing I can’t understand is that only skinny girls are invited to porn, this is madness, the current trend scares me, but sometimes Giorgio can dig up moments somewhere girls, for example Suzie Sparkle (Stepsis Susie) the Czechs also have good girls, but why does the studio release the same thing

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Re: How was 2023

Postby isis111 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:07 pm

Giorgio's studio at times needs to be renamed Anna Rebel De Ville Ryan & Co. studio.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby isis111 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:10 pm

Giorgio, you are the best, you are a European porn god director, I hope you will hear our prayers and bring us more newcomers, juicy newcomers

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Paizal » Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:58 am

dap-addict wrote:On a serious note: You seem not to realize how big a risk new girls are with big base production costs nowadays.



But the question is - how long can an artist sing the same song over and over again? If your whole formula is based on 2-3 girls, what do you do when they quit? Of course, GG is in a very comfortable situation because he can say to himself - "I can sell those zombies the same scene every day, they won't notice anything anyway". But it can happen faster than you think and your money makers are gone and no one has been set up to fill the gap.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:19 am

this topic is getting into a nonsense as usual.

We shoot again a model because she sells, and we continue to shoot her because she sells. Meanwhile, with the money generated from these "established models" (that you so much dislike) we are trying to scout the new one.
FIY, really understand this, most of new models are paid from the profit generated by established model. Its Anna e Rebel, with a few others, that are financing the recruiting . This also because 70% of scenes with new girls, do not make the production cost unless there is not DAP, Pee, etc.
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Europe and CZ is not south America, not even close. Most of scenes shot in south america have a very low price. A low price (in Tkt) because the scene you are purchasing has a production cost between 1/2 and 1/4 of an equivalent scene produced in europa

This is a PPV website, buy what you like and we are all happy. To rant one post after the other about your personal opinion or taste wont make me change what I am doing as I am aiming to make happy the larger group of customer is possible
I am not aiming to make happy you or who complain on this forum, because in general (and I mean 95% of times), you complain about your not satisfied personal taste without to see the bigger picture.

Please just enjoy what you like if there is something you like, let the rest be
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Re: How was 2023

Postby Paizal » Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:15 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:this topic is getting into a nonsense as usual.

(...)

Please just enjoy what you like if there is something you like, let the rest be



However, it is still a discussion forum and not an ass kissing contest. As an artist, you should also understand that people express their displeasure there and not just worship you and build idols.

People always talk about the bigger picture. I remember that from other entertainment media, where there was always talk of the bigger picture and nothing ever happened. So perhaps you should also have some understanding when fans who are not completely jaded ask - when will the next wave of girls arrive? After years of this overkill concept.

And if you say new girls need a very long start-up time to be considered a success financially - if they do at all, why not re-set the scouting? If you look at the Vixen Group, you get the impression that 80% of its content now consists of EU girls. And these girls seem to be very popular in the USA. But they have the striking difference that they are not tattooed from top to bottom. Maybe that would be an option for EU Studios again. The cute look, the girl next door look....and not always that of the bartender from the motorcycle club.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:35 pm

Paizal wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:this topic is getting into a nonsense as usual.

(...)

Please just enjoy what you like if there is something you like, let the rest be



However, it is still a discussion forum and not an ass kissing contest. As an artist, you should also understand that people express their displeasure there and not just worship you and build idols.

People always talk about the bigger picture. I remember that from other entertainment media, where there was always talk of the bigger picture and nothing ever happened. So perhaps you should also have some understanding when fans who are not completely jaded ask - when will the next wave of girls arrive? After years of this overkill concept.

And if you say new girls need a very long start-up time to be considered a success financially - if they do at all, why not re-set the scouting? If you look at the Vixen Group, you get the impression that 80% of its content now consists of EU girls. And these girls seem to be very popular in the USA. But they have the striking difference that they are not tattooed from top to bottom. Maybe that would be an option for EU Studios again. The cute look, the girl next door look....and not always that of the bartender from the motorcycle club.


what you do not understand is you are mixing apples with bananas

Specially new models do not want to shoot porn for 3rd parts producers, eventually they want to get a kickstart to their OF or similar, because big money are there. So they join porn, shoot the easier content available for the more "fancy" brand and move on on their own production.

On the top of this, I am pretty sure that no one at Vixen, specially who runs the production in europe, will be happy if their top models will go to shoot for someone that is actually able to shoot porn.
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Re: How was 2023

Postby Paizal » Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:03 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Specially new models do not want to shoot porn for 3rd parts producers, eventually they want to get a kickstart to their OF or similar, because big money are there. So they join porn, shoot the easier content available for the more "fancy" brand and move on on their own production.


But then you can also make a straightforward announcement that you will shoot another 500 scenes with Anna De Ville and Rebel Ryder in 2024 and have given up scouting because "new models do not want to shoot porn for 3rd parts producers, eventually they want to get a kickstart to their OF or similar, because big money are there". Then those of us who are not completely jaded will know where we stand and won't have to believe in a bigger picture....which will apparently never be revealed.

To be honest, I don't blame you. If we look at the USA, we can see the pathetic state of studio porn. We can all imagine the damage caused by piracy and OF. Nevertheless, it would perhaps fair to make a statement - there will be no new wave of girls. Anna De Ville and Rebel Ryder every 2nd day or nothing. Instead of stirring up hope and talking about a bigger picture.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby nilis » Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:06 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
Paizal wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:this topic is getting into a nonsense as usual.

(...)

Please just enjoy what you like if there is something you like, let the rest be



However, it is still a discussion forum and not an ass kissing contest. As an artist, you should also understand that people express their displeasure there and not just worship you and build idols.

People always talk about the bigger picture. I remember that from other entertainment media, where there was always talk of the bigger picture and nothing ever happened. So perhaps you should also have some understanding when fans who are not completely jaded ask - when will the next wave of girls arrive? After years of this overkill concept.

And if you say new girls need a very long start-up time to be considered a success financially - if they do at all, why not re-set the scouting? If you look at the Vixen Group, you get the impression that 80% of its content now consists of EU girls. And these girls seem to be very popular in the USA. But they have the striking difference that they are not tattooed from top to bottom. Maybe that would be an option for EU Studios again. The cute look, the girl next door look....and not always that of the bartender from the motorcycle club.


what you do not understand is you are mixing apples with bananas

Specially new models do not want to shoot porn for 3rd parts producers, eventually they want to get a kickstart to their OF or similar, because big money are there. So they join porn, shoot the easier content available for the more "fancy" brand and move on on their own production.

On the top of this, I am pretty sure that no one at Vixen, specially who runs the production in europe, will be happy if their top models will go to shoot for someone that is actually able to shoot porn.

(sorry to interrupt) Hey Gio, is there a way of reaching you outside this forum? I've been unsuccessfully trying to get through to your DMs at X/IG, maybe because my accounts are empty and look more like fake ones, haha. Anyway, felt like asking here.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Christopher_Williams1 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:12 pm

Important points:

1.) As GIO said, Europe is a different market. The cost of living is different here. The women here also do scenes that women from other parts of the world wouldn't touch with a 50-ft pole. While GIO isn't the cheapest, most reasonable people would acknowledge that it does offer the biggest bang for the buck. The average cost is around 13 tkts and it's starting to get disrespectful for people to continue to say that it should be 6 tkts or etc. Just like cars cost different prices, so do the content we want to see.

2.) We shouldn't use a woman once and then throw her in the trash around here. For instance, Rebel built up some connections in Prague and if she's in Europe, she shoots. The fans are mostly happy and her life is simpler. Just imagine if at your day job, you can only provide one day of work and then you got to look again. You would be in constant look of work. I'm sure you would agree that would suck.

3.) GIO releases north of 300 scenes a year. Most sites do weekly releases. So of course other sites seems to have fresh content, week-after-week. It's so much easier. I would say apples-to-bananas comparison here, as 300 is much larger than 52. Even if a site may offer twice a week, one update might be an interview and the other is fu€kin.

4.) Lastly, the forum is a more negative than what's out there in the real world. I noticed that from other sites too. It's always a bunch of doom and gloom, such as GIO is too high these days or Rebel shoots too much. I don't think that's the reality. Rebel just shot recently and what I can tell, it did extremely well, even at 22 tkts. Enough said.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Paizal » Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:18 pm

Christopher_Williams1 wrote:Important points:
2.) We shouldn't use a woman once and then throw her in the trash around here.


But that's exactly what's happening here. A new girl comes along, her scene doesn't sell well and she is thrown away.

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Re: Как прошел 2023 год

Postby isis111 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:49 pm

Paizal wrote:
Christopher_Williams1 wrote:Important points:
2.) We shouldn't use a woman once and then throw her in the trash around here.


But that's exactly what's happening here. A new girl comes along, her scene doesn't sell well and she is thrown away.



I absolutely agree, there were many girls who were better than Rebel, both in figure and face, but they were used two or three times and thrown into the bucket, but this Rebel is released almost every week, I don’t mind that scenes with her participation are released, I would even told me that I don’t give a fuck about them, I’m not interested in them, but if the girls are better than her and they don’t get the attention they deserve

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Re: How was 2023

Postby Christopher_Williams1 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:34 pm

There are 2 reasons why a girl doesn't shoot again:

1.) She's not interested at a particular price.
2.) GIO doesn't have confidence that she would be worth the production costs.

Unfortunately, #2 is massive. That's the world we live in. But... if a chick is able to at least breakeven somewhat, despite that it might not be the best for the studio's finances, it might be overall better for the studio as far as the fans go. But yeah, I was thinking that some guys were complaining about not getting enough chicks as GIO probably showed anywhere from 50 to 100 different chicks in 2023. But I can somewhat understand showing some other girls more.

Anyhow, I recently purchased Daruma Rai's scene. She's awesome. I know why I didn't grab her scene earlier, but it would be nice if she didn't get toss in the drawer, never to be seen again.

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Re: How was 2023

Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:15 pm

Hot Summer in the City (1976)
A remake would do wonders for the situation at hand.
very simple movie, but Tarantino called it the best XXX movie ever made.

Let Emily Belle be the protagonist.
that is, if she is available.
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Re: Как прошел 2023 год

Postby 2017sucks » Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:04 am

isis111 wrote:
Paizal wrote:
Christopher_Williams1 wrote:Important points:
2.) We shouldn't use a woman once and then throw her in the trash around here.


But that's exactly what's happening here. A new girl comes along, her scene doesn't sell well and she is thrown away.



I absolutely agree, there were many girls who were better than Rebel, both in figure and face, but they were used two or three times and thrown into the bucket, but this Rebel is released almost every week, I don’t mind that scenes with her participation are released, I would even told me that I don’t give a fuck about them, I’m not interested in them, but if the girls are better than her and they don’t get the attention they deserve
And maybe its about performances, hm? I have seen tons of Rebel's photos without make up, from some Arizona deserts, of course it might be also because of that place, weather conditions and so on but I must say that shes not among prettiest girls on world..and still, that never disturb me, there is some inside beauty, And then, could cum so easily just after 10 seconds of her scenes, when camera shows her feet in high heels (except Silvia, no one wears them better), then going up all the way to the face. And then the magic starts, she is enjoying every single second of every scene, always giving her maximum, sucking and fucking like her life depends from it, like there is no tomorrow.

If porn is just about beauty, then Sofa Weber, with 0 starting talent and 0 improvement over tons of scenes would be already considered as a GOAT.
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Re: How was 2023

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:58 am

visigoth2020260 wrote:Hot Summer in the City (1976)
A remake would do wonders for the situation at hand.
very simple movie, but Tarantino called it the best XXX movie ever made.

Let Emily Belle be the protagonist.
that is, if she is available.


That GIF made me miss Emily Belle at GIO...

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Re: How was 2023

Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:32 pm

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:
visigoth2020260 wrote:Hot Summer in the City (1976)
A remake would do wonders for the situation at hand.
very simple movie, but Tarantino called it the best XXX movie ever made.

Let Emily Belle be the protagonist.
that is, if she is available.


That GIF made me miss Emily Belle at GIO...


She is absolutely gorgeous.
I like her more than the others.
RR.
KK.
EP.
And she is more beautiful than the three put together.
Why is she not around?
Remember to model the models.
It can not just be in pictures where they are depicted at their best.
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