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Giorgio Grandi wrote:I agree with almost all of this proposition.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I agree with almost all of this proposition.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I agree with almost all of this proposition.
laura. wrote:People just don't want to see condoms in porn it's simple as that.
Dudemeister wrote:laura. wrote:People just don't want to see condoms in porn it's simple as that.
That's the core of this whole discussion. I joined Dorcel some months ago because they got some of my favourite performers over there. But the scenes are almost completey unwatchable - and yes, that's mostly because of the condoms. I cancelled my subscribtion about five days later.
If condoms become mandatory in porn, it will be the death of the industry.
Dudemeister wrote:laura. wrote:People just don't want to see condoms in porn it's simple as that.
That's the core of this whole discussion. I joined Dorcel some months ago because they got some of my favourite performers over there. But the scenes are almost completey unwatchable - and yes, that's mostly because of the condoms. I cancelled my subscribtion about five days later.
If condoms become mandatory in porn, it will be the death of the industry.
laura. wrote:I think it's admirable that he (or you GG) is taking a moral stance in this although I am sure at the same time it will mitigate the potential for scandal, and/or lawsuits, but much of the onus relies on the performers to be sensible and not to fuck around. Theyre working in porn and as far as I am concerned there is no need to be wild or promiscuous outside it. I imagine that much of the risk of infection stems from casual non porn sex and if you prevent this you keep a healthy and std free inner circle of performers.
Is the insistence on condom use a sign that the current level of std testing is insufficient or not regular enough? I now wonder.
I for one will never buy porn where condoms are involved, I am sorry but this my stance on it, enabling bad ethics or not. It's down to aesthetics and supporting the fantasy of real and natural sex. X
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Its better a terrible law, then anarchy.
laura. wrote:
Hence why the industry in LA is on its knees!
avanfurwet wrote:laura. wrote:
Hence why the industry in LA is on its knees!
Is it? I didn't know that.
kidloco2 wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:Its better a terrible law, then anarchy.
I agree with your point, but this passive position fro an insider is surprising me.
New last basically takes producers as hostages and make them responsible for something they won't be able to fully control.
The same situation as stated above with not being responsible for proving tests legit. How the fuck can a producer prove to the authorities
that the test wasn't fake? It's a medical record after all.
kidloco2 wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:Its better a terrible law, then anarchy.
I agree with your point, but this passive position fro an insider is surprising me.
New last basically takes producers as hostages and make them responsible for something they won't be able to fully control.
The same situation as stated above with not being responsible for proving tests legit. How the fuck can a producer prove to the authorities
that the test wasn't fake? It's a medical record after all.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:There is nothing politic, just in USA as soon as someone want to change smt, everyone say "no, it limitate our freedom". BS, I would vote YES to this law if applied in Eu.
This rule clean the path, and make a starting point. The true is that 60% of producers will die because of this, almost all amateur porn producers, and not because of the condom.
Of course the law needs to be fixed, it would have been better to negotiate instead than say NO
Said that, I support the condom not as prevention for STD, but simply I think that ethically, sex between people that are not having a monogamous relationship should be performed with condom.
Porno is already become entertainment, not anymore something to watch for jerk off (if someone wants to simply jerk off, then there are tons of free porn video/sites), and a porn producer should take his responsibility
If everyone will shoot with condom, the user will buy content with condom. Nothing will change for the most.
laura. wrote:
Well looking at the number of studios operating in Florida, I can only assume it is?
Giorgio Grandi wrote:kidloco2 wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:Its better a terrible law, then anarchy.
I agree with your point, but this passive position fro an insider is surprising me.
New last basically takes producers as hostages and make them responsible for something they won't be able to fully control.
The same situation as stated above with not being responsible for proving tests legit. How the fuck can a producer prove to the authorities
that the test wasn't fake? It's a medical record after all.
This is the more easy part, we are already doing this (very simple: do you want to work for me? you go to make a medical test to the laboratory "AA" or "BB" or "CC" and I get the results by email. if you go at another laboratory I do not shoot you)
Giorgio Grandi wrote:There is nothing politic, just in USA as soon as someone want to change smt, everyone say "no, it limitate our freedom". BS, I would vote YES to this law if applied in Eu.
This rule clean the path, and make a starting point. The true is that 60% of producers will die because of this, almost all amateur porn producers, and not because of the condom.
Of course the law needs to be fixed, it would have been better to negotiate instead than say NO
Said that, I support the condom not as prevention for STD, but simply I think that ethically, sex between people that are not having a monogamous relationship should be performed with condom.
Porno is already become entertainment, not anymore something to watch for jerk off (if someone wants to simply jerk off, then there are tons of free porn video/sites), and a porn producer should take his responsibility
If everyone will shoot with condom, the user will buy content with condom. Nothing will change for the most.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Yes, I know. the bottom line is that Promp 60 is a bullshit, if it win, a producer can simply move on another state. Problem solved.
Unfortunately, there are bigger problem to solve in the society nowadays then porn, so the administrations are more busy with something else then porn.
Also, even if there are a lot of money involved in porn, internet has no country and no borders and specially NO RULES.
I think "internet" should have a worldwide authority that take decision in the interest of ethic and care of people....
avanfurwet wrote:laura. wrote:
Well looking at the number of studios operating in Florida, I can only assume it is?
I must be naive. I thought it was a healthy sign of a growing industry,
laura. wrote:
Are we in a different train of thought here? Not sure lol, I wasn't being sarky btw. I was referring solely to Los Angeles x
laura. wrote:I concur, it seems to be thriving outside of Cali with Brazzers leading the way. Just seems strange when you think that LA was once the ground zero of porn. To be fair my knowledge of American porn is pretty poor, I am a Euro porn girl and thats how I like it![]()
Weren't they thinking if using those sheaths that just covered the guys glans? Not sure if that would at least go some way to creating the illusion of the cock being uncovered? Not that I think it would change my opinion on the matter x
laura. wrote:^
...The only people who will get ever be affected by this are the very performers that are so vehemently against this proposal. These are adults who are making their own choices in life the majority of whom taken utmost care in their health and ethics. Aren't they allowed their say? ...
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