a return of the GagsGirls format? messy deepthroat interest?

[xmal-fuckland]

thread title is pretty self-explanatory, but by way of an explanation.

have noticed how there seems to be a lot of enthusiasm around the forum for sloppy and messy deepthroat action.

sites such as ryan guzzlings hotshot hookups (charlotte sartre, megan rain, etc, have shot here at LP and there) are attracting a lot of attention from the audience interested in this sort of thing.
i've expressed my love-hate relationship with the qualities of that site elsewhere but it amounts to;
i love the sloppy deepthroat thing he does. nothing new, but he's the only one offering that on a mainstream site atm.
i hate that lame kiddie look he dresses his girls up in. combine that look with small, thin models he uses and the general mood of that site is a major turn off for me.

when i reflect on precedents for dedicated sloppy deepthroat porn scenes i get two or three examples:
Giorgio's excellent GagsGirls series from around nearly ten years ago now.
Max Hardcore's series of films, some of that is great porn and some veers into the same 'troublesome' territory that puts me off Hotshot Hookups.
and there was also Facial Abuse, but that seems to handle the whole thing in a pretty degrading way (and i'm talking degrading even compared to Max). a few good shoots but most you want to avoid, and some of it leaves you genuinely concerned for the girls' welfare. a 'steer clear' for me.

because Giorgio is Giorgio, he did it best in my opinion. GagsGirls was a great series and i was sad to see it go.

so i wondered (since he is always chasing the next niche to keep GG production ticking over) if anyone would be interested in seeing some kind of return of this format? basically 30-60 min scenes (whatever people want to see, maybe suggest timescales) of sloppy deepthroat only. no other sex acts sex and minimal intros/outros to keep time down.

i made this a poll thing but basically it's just a starting point for discussion. I would really like to see high quality (Giorgio/LP lvel quality) messy deepthroat scenes with the kinds of performers LP attracts. and there is nothing out there except Hotshots, which just doesn't do it for me because of that look.

Giorgio may have no intention of ever revisiting that format, or may consider it economically non-viable as a format. he is his own man with his own mind and we all admire and respect him for that. the results of this poll and all opinions expressed don't oblige him to take any interest at all. but if interest is great maybe he will choose to reflect on it as a possibility. it's just an idea being thrown open for discussion. so discuss...

[Falcon131721]

I prefer heather brooke style deepthroat. From penis tip to balls deep hold it as long as she can and repeat then just increase speed until it's a full on skull fuck. Really don't need the mess but really interested in seeing who can deepthroat the longest dick and who can hold it balls deep the longest.

[laura.]

This is a bit of a love hate niche for me. Aesthetically and particularly in stills, it can look gloriously perverse and I do like a bit of drool and running mascara. On film it often veers into all out brutality which triggers my maternal instincts and I just want the camera to stop. I'd be a liar to say at some kind of dark level that it doesn't turn me on but it leaves me feeling guilty.

If you have a performer who is technically brilliant at deep throat, eg Nataly Gold then it's something completely different and my love of it is down to my respect and awe that someone can do that without flinching. It's almost educational lol.

It ranks way down the list of kinks for me, so I voted in the negative x

[staygold]

I prefer slow and sensual blowjob/deepthroat Klxen style.

I wish there was a single LP studio dedicated to this

Whatever you decide please do not copycat any fast messy deepthroat from american sites, because this is fake, boring and too much male-focused.

Focus more on the girls, not the dumb muscle again.

Cheers,
Gold

[avanfurwet]

+1 for keep it sloppy, but only with girls who like to be spit monsters and enjoy this stuff.

If they are forced to do it and they're hating it, that's lame.

And, for me, please leave the metal medical devices in the drawer. This isn't a torture site.

[nmelite]

Great IDEA

[simone.urbinati]

ok gags but with blowbang scene

[xmal-fuckland]

This is a bit of a love hate niche for me. Aesthetically and particularly in stills, it can look gloriously perverse and I do like a bit of drool and running mascara. On film it often veers into all out brutality which triggers my maternal instincts and I just want the camera to stop. I'd be a liar to say at some kind of dark level that it doesn't turn me on but it leaves me feeling guilty.

“there’s the rub…” as hamlet would say.
and that’s exactly why you need a director (Giorgio) and a thoroughly self-aware performer (any LP performer) with the intelligence, sensitivity and good judgement required to tread that line so it draws more positive feelings than negative.

If you have a performer who is technically brilliant at deep throat, eg Nataly Gold then it's something completely different and my love of it is down to my respect and awe that someone can do that without flinching. It's almost educational lol.
It ranks way down the list of kinks for me, so I voted in the negative x

t’was you, the rogue objecting and objectionable 5%!

+1 for keep it sloppy, but only with girls who like to be spit monsters and enjoy this stuff.
If they are forced to do it and they're hating it, that's lame.

forcing anyone to do anything (a crime, no less) is not how Giorgio works (as we all know ). which is why I want him especially to return to this niche to do it properly and with some characteristic GG class, rather than leave it to some douchebag chancer in a motel room with a handycam and a crack whore. there things can get ugly quickly.
as laura said above, this is a niche that is often handled really badly by amateurs, under which circumstances empathy for models being handled without sensitivity jangle easily. but at present only hookup is the only pro site specialising in it. room for some eastern european competition (directors and performers) to move in on that current US monopoly.

And, for me, please leave the metal medical devices in the drawer. This isn't a torture site.

that wasn’t the example I meant to post, but the egg-timer quick edit window tripped me up before I spotted my mistake.
second pic was supposed to be aidra fox at hookup (one of the great scenes there, despite my reservations about some of the rest of the site).

so posted here to right that error.

(ok images not working tonight, go to hookup hotshots and check out aidra fox's scene)

[xmal-fuckland]

[avanfurwet]

This is a bit of a love hate niche for me. Aesthetically and particularly in stills, it can look gloriously perverse and I do like a bit of drool and running mascara. On film it often veers into all out brutality which triggers my maternal instincts and I just want the camera to stop. I'd be a liar to say at some kind of dark level that it doesn't turn me on but it leaves me feeling guilty.

“there’s the rub…” as hamlet would say.
and that’s exactly why you need a director (Giorgio) and a thoroughly self-aware performer (any LP performer) with the intelligence, sensitivity and good judgement required to tread that line so it draws more positive feelings than negative.

If you have a performer who is technically brilliant at deep throat, eg Nataly Gold then it's something completely different and my love of it is down to my respect and awe that someone can do that without flinching. It's almost educational lol.
It ranks way down the list of kinks for me, so I voted in the negative x

t’was you, the rogue objecting and objectionable 5%!

+1 for keep it sloppy, but only with girls who like to be spit monsters and enjoy this stuff.
If they are forced to do it and they're hating it, that's lame.

forcing anyone to do anything (a crime, no less) is not how Giorgio works (as we all know ). which is why I want him especially to return to this niche to do it properly and with some characteristic GG class, rather than leave it to some douchebag chancer in a motel room with a handycam and a crack whore. there things can get ugly quickly.
as laura said above, this is a niche that is often handled really badly by amateurs, under which circumstances empathy for models being handled without sensitivity jangle easily. but at present only hookup is the only pro site specialising in it. room for some eastern european competition (directors and performers) to move in on that current US monopoly.

And, for me, please leave the metal medical devices in the drawer. This isn't a torture site.

that wasn’t the example I meant to post, but the egg-timer quick edit window tripped me up before I spotted my mistake.
second pic was supposed to be aidra fox at hookup (one of the great scenes there, despite my reservations about some of the rest of the site).

so posted here to right that error.

(ok images not working tonight, go to hookup hotshots and check out aidra fox's scene)

Aidra images working for me today.

I hate much about that site, but the take-away for me is the girls appear genuinely to be having a good time slutting it up, and it shines through in their scenes.

[avanfurwet]

This is a bit of a love hate niche for me. Aesthetically and particularly in stills, it can look gloriously perverse and I do like a bit of drool and running mascara. On film it often veers into all out brutality which triggers my maternal instincts and I just want the camera to stop. I'd be a liar to say at some kind of dark level that it doesn't turn me on but it leaves me feeling guilty.

If you have a performer who is technically brilliant at deep throat, eg Nataly Gold then it's something completely different and my love of it is down to my respect and awe that someone can do that without flinching. It's almost educational lol.

It ranks way down the list of kinks for me, so I voted in the negative x

Fair enough, forcing is a huge turn-off for me too. Anything in porn and in life is a million% better when the woman is into it.

Could you press option 3 please and tell what you'd like to see instead?

[laura.]

I concur that based on my reasoning option 3 would have been a more accurate choice, particularly as I commented on how elements of this genre turn me on. Its one of those niches that conjure the angel and devil dynamic for me, I have watched scenes of this nature in part disgust but at the same time had my fingers on my pussy, I don't want to enjoy them but my 'dark' kinky side compels me to watch. All a bit Freudian I know.

A shining example would be the infamous Roxy Jezel and Max scene or some of the TCC young throat scenes. I don't like the idea of deriving sexual gratification out of something on the surface which seems so brutal, but the voyeur pervert in me continues to watch. I used to feel a lot of guilt watching porn, espc of that genre hence why I now avoid it. I guess it's that which has informed the current level of porn I feel comfortable with and hence my voting decision.

If however, and as you both allude to, the performer actively seeks out this type of scene through her own love of doing it, I would be prepared to watch. How I can gauge that is probably only through reading their Twitter's etc to gain an insight into on whether that is something they enjoy.

I mentioned that in still images, it looks bloody horny, perfect example being the Aidra pic above, that looks gorgeous with all that drool. She has an amazing body btw!!

Hope this kind of makes sense xx

[avanfurwet]

I concur that based on my reasoning option 3 would have been a more accurate choice, particularly as I commented on how elements of this genre turn me on. Its one of those niches that conjure the angel and devil dynamic for me, I have watched scenes of this nature in part disgust but at the same time had my fingers on my pussy, I don't want to enjoy them but my 'dark' kinky side compels me to watch. All a bit Freudian I know.

A shining example would be the infamous Roxy Jezel and Max scene or some of the TCC young throat scenes. I don't like the idea of deriving sexual gratification out of something on the surface which seems so brutal, but the voyeur pervert in me continues to watch. I used to feel a lot of guilt watching porn, espc of that genre hence why I now avoid it. I guess it's that which has informed the current level of porn I feel comfortable with and hence my voting decision.

If however, and as you both allude to, the performer actively seeks out this type of scene through her own love of doing it, I would be prepared to watch. How I can gauge that is probably only through reading their [spam]'s etc to gain an insight into on whether that is something they enjoy.

I mentioned that in still images, it looks bloody horny, perfect example being the Aidra pic above, that looks gorgeous with all that drool. She has an amazing body btw!!

Hope this kind of makes sense xx

^ Yes, it does.

Having lost the taste for plain vanilla, we like our sex closer to the edge.

That's not the same as wanting to see a girl actually hurt or abused, which IMO is Donald Tr**p level retarded.

From the twitterings I've seen, the girls seem to enjoy the Gosling scenes

[laura.]

^
The thought of watching vanilla porn brings me out in hives. Just what is the point lol?

Trump has gone now, surely? What a twat

[Gagandrim]

Yes, and with rimming it would be perfect for me.

[avanfurwet]

^ The thought of watching vanilla porn brings me out in hives. Just what is the point lol? ...

I thought that, then I saw this, and I was lost...

[Alan2008]

This is a bit of a love hate niche for me. Aesthetically and particularly in stills, it can look gloriously perverse and I do like a bit of drool and running mascara. On film it often veers into all out brutality which triggers my maternal instincts and I just want the camera to stop. I'd be a liar to say at some kind of dark level that it doesn't turn me on but it leaves me feeling guilty.

“there’s the rub…” as hamlet would say.
and that’s exactly why you need a director (Giorgio) and a thoroughly self-aware performer (any LP performer) with the intelligence, sensitivity and good judgement required to tread that line so it draws more positive feelings than negative.

If you have a performer who is technically brilliant at deep throat, eg Nataly Gold then it's something completely different and my love of it is down to my respect and awe that someone can do that without flinching. It's almost educational lol.
It ranks way down the list of kinks for me, so I voted in the negative x

t’was you, the rogue objecting and objectionable 5%!

+1 for keep it sloppy, but only with girls who like to be spit monsters and enjoy this stuff.
If they are forced to do it and they're hating it, that's lame.

forcing anyone to do anything (a crime, no less) is not how Giorgio works (as we all know ). which is why I want him especially to return to this niche to do it properly and with some characteristic GG class, rather than leave it to some douchebag chancer in a motel room with a handycam and a crack whore. there things can get ugly quickly.
as laura said above, this is a niche that is often handled really badly by amateurs, under which circumstances empathy for models being handled without sensitivity jangle easily. but at present only hookup is the only pro site specialising in it. room for some eastern european competition (directors and performers) to move in on that current US monopoly.

And, for me, please leave the metal medical devices in the drawer. This isn't a torture site.

that wasn’t the example I meant to post, but the egg-timer quick edit window tripped me up before I spotted my mistake.
second pic was supposed to be aidra fox at hookup (one of the great scenes there, despite my reservations about some of the rest of the site).

so posted here to right that error.

(ok images not working tonight, go to hookup hotshots and check out aidra fox's scene)

Aidra images working for me today.

I hate much about that site, but the take-away for me is the girls appear genuinely to be having a good time slutting it up, and it shines through in their scenes.

I was thinking about asking LP or Giorgio to get Bryan down to direct a few scenes (actually I might have done so already). He does seem to have a genuine interaction with most of the actresses in his scenes. In an interview that he gave he brought along a few of his female "collaborators" and Bryan regards himself an "artist" rather than a porn director. (Previously he was a graffiti artist). But I don't think that his skills are transferable. I think the only people at LP that could even attempt his types of scenes are Giorgo and Mike Chapman.

[laura.]

^ The thought of watching vanilla porn brings me out in hives. Just what is the point lol? ...

I thought that, then I saw this, and I was lost...

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God she looks stunning like that. Love how smiley and happy Roxy is these days. That's not porn tho hun, just a beautiful porn star in her civvies. She looks even better and more beautiful naked and with a cock in her ass

[avanfurwet]

^ The thought of watching vanilla porn brings me out in hives. Just what is the point lol? ...

I thought that, then I saw this, and I was lost...

57acecdec6013-qfo-roxyd-2-von-120.jpg

s

God she looks stunning like that. Love how smiley and happy Roxy is these days. That's not porn tho hun, just a beautiful porn star in her civvies. She looks even better and more beautiful naked and with a cock in her ass

Luckily, we get to see both. So I'm very happy