Dirty talk and broken English

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Let girls speak their native language?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:12 am

Yes
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No
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I don't care
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Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:12 am

It's always nice to see interaction in porn movies and hear female performers actually talk and comment on things. That's why the whole "Behind the scenes" thing is so popular.

LP studios sometimes have this, however, it's mostly coming from the director and male performers, girls remain reluctant. Why? I think it's only because they barely speak English and speaking their own language is banned? Seriously?

Why don't you let girls speak their native language? Is there a special censorship rule for this or any other prejudice?

I don't really need to understand everything she says as it's always clear from the situation. Plus, you can add subtitles, it's easy. Only that constant "Fuck" or "Cum" makes it stupid. It's probably good in those US movies, but here I guess we have a different situation. When most of your girls switch to English they sound harsh and horrible. Just like that old hairy man when he speaks his 'English' during castings :D :D :D

I'd love to hear Nikita Bellucci speaking sexy French, hear some German "jaa, fick mich tiefer guuuut so" from July Sun and these Slavic languages are also beautiful.

Please LP add some European flavour to your meals and make more Language Porno!

By the way, if anyone knows any LP scenes when girls speak native language please feel free to recommend :cool:

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Oldshark » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:34 am

I voted "I don't care," but the survey needed more choices: I'm in favor of performers talking, whether in broken English or any other language.

In general, silent sex is boring sex. I always enjoy performers who seem to be enjoying themselves, based not only on what I'm watching but on what I'm hearing. Grunts and moans are fine, but dirty talk is even better. Imaginative, creative dirty talk is best of all, but that's not always practical, and of course presumes language fluency that's often lacking.

I enjoy performers communicating with each other regardless of whether I understand the performers' native language(s), and regardless of whether they're actually communicating with each other effectively. Urgent passion can make up for a lot of lost translations, doesn't it? If a Slovakian girl's best means of telling a Russian guy and a Spanish guy is in broken English, as a pr0n-world de facto lingua franca, then hey, I'm certainly not off-put if she's failing to conjugate her infinitives perfectly. But I'm equally content to hear her try that in French or Esperanto or whatever else she might use to urge on her sexual partners if they'd met at the train station instead of the porn studio.

Side note: One of the reasons I respect Gina Gerson as a professional is that she's apparently made a systematic effort to learn more languages -- and she can and does "talk dirty" very well in several. I'm not faulting anyone else who hasn't done that, by any means! But her efforts to please a broad fan base are commendable.

PS: I actually enjoy subtitles with dirty-talk translations! But those are rarer than hen's teeth.
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby drevokocur66 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:31 am

Oldshark wrote:I voted "I don't care," but the survey needed more choices: I'm in favor of performers talking, whether in broken English or any other language.

In general, silent sex is boring sex. I always enjoy performers who seem to be enjoying themselves, based not only on what I'm watching but on what I'm hearing. Grunts and moans are fine, but dirty talk is even better. Imaginative, creative dirty talk is best of all, but that's not always practical, and of course presumes language fluency that's often lacking.

I enjoy performers communicating with each other regardless of whether I understand the performers' native language(s), and regardless of whether they're actually communicating with each other effectively. Urgent passion can make up for a lot of lost translations, doesn't it? If a Slovakian girl's best means of telling a Russian guy and a Spanish guy is in broken English, as a pr0n-world de facto lingua franca, then hey, I'm certainly not off-put if she's failing to conjugate her infinitives perfectly. But I'm equally content to hear her try that in French or Esperanto or whatever else she might use to urge on her sexual partners if they'd met at the train station instead of the porn studio.

Side note: One of the reasons I respect Gina Gerson as a professional is that she's apparently made a systematic effort to learn more languages -- and she can and does "talk dirty" very well in several. I'm not faulting anyone else who hasn't done that, by any means! But her efforts to please a broad fan base are commendable.

PS: I actually enjoy subtitles with dirty-talk translations! But those are rarer than hen's teeth.



Native language all the way! That would be so hot :)
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby morgankane1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:52 am

Personally I'd prefer to hear the girls talk more in their native language. Nikita Bellucci speaking in french would be extremely hot and at the top of my list, but girls like Mea Melone, Billie Star, Blanche Bradburry etc etc talking in their native language would be super hot too. There's just something about girls who know little to no english having to speak english that reduces my enjoyment of a scene.

Encouraging the girls to talk in their native language and telling the guys to shut the fuck up would be a win-win in my book.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby drevokocur66 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:42 am

morgankane1 wrote:Encouraging the girls to talk in their native language and telling the guys to shut the fuck up would be a win-win in my book.



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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:34 am

I read somewhere that producers ban Russian for example because of some sort of Cold War syndrome or something. I don't know for sure, probably it was a tabloid article, but the whole thing is really stupid, seriously.

I don't see any reasons to ban native languages and say no, unless you are

1) a censor
2) a fucking racist scumbag
3) an idiot or a troll who attempts to limit LP success

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If anyone votes 'No' please explain your choice, I'm really interested.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Iddaoeeok » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:35 pm

Oldshark wrote: If a Slovakian girl's best means of telling a Russian guy and a Spanish guy is in broken English, as a pr0n-world de facto lingua franca, then hey, I'm certainly not off-put if she's failing to conjugate her infinitives perfectly.


I am in favour of girls speaking in their own language but, as the poster has pointed out, the performers are generally from many different countries, so English is the obvious common language to use. The problem with that is a lot of the girls don't speak very much English, if any, or aren't comfortable with speaking English or convincing at it (the male performers are more likely to because most of them are twice the age of the girls!) I do remember an early Linda Sweet LP scene where she spoke a lot of Czech and it really made me like her even more, because it was so natural and unaffected - later on, when she became more 'professional' she didn't say much, or maybe she was told not to?

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby laura. » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:55 pm

I just love hearing the performers converse as to me it just makes the whole scene seem natural and human. I love hearing the sexy Russian language as much as I love hearing a sexy Russian/English accent. I think trying to encourage girls to speak English who don't have the confidence to do so seems a little unnatural and forced. let them be themselves but most of all let there be communication!

Subtitles in Arwens feature length scene would have been of benefit by the way xx

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Oldshark » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:48 pm

morgankane1 wrote:...Encouraging the girls to talk in their native language and telling the guys to shut the fuck up would be a win-win in my book.


My imagination supplies what I think the guys should say. Yes, I confess to talking out loud, to the performers (mostly the girls) on my video display, while wanking.

But if what the guy or guys are saying is helping turn the girl on further, helping her get into the scene and the sex -- and it should, if the guys are doing it right and at the right time, at least with the right girls, and to some extent even if they don't understand the language very well or at all -- then I'm in favor. Anything a director can do to encourage a more passionate and genuine performance from his performers, especially his female performers, I support. Some directors are obviously better at this than others, but I'm guessing that it's too challenging for many directors and they simply "solve" the problem by telling the girls not to talk.

I should also note that I'm willing to do my part. I've resolved to embark upon a systematic study of foreign languages, with the goal of learning how to recognize the phrase "Fuck me harder!" in at least 28 languages. All I need is some volunteer tutors from among the girls performing on LP. :D
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby morgankane1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:22 pm

^I do agree with what you are saying, but in my opinion what guys say (and do) during scenes rarely seem to be about turning the girls on. Just seems to be a lot of shouting, asking stupid questions and constantly telling the girls what to do, where to go etc etc

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:54 pm

^ Guys should remain stfu'd about anything imo. I hate director's instructions or actors talking bs like Mike while girls are silent.

I hope this is still not a gay porn site, so less focus on guys pls (especially Giorgio).

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby dap-addict » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:58 am

staygold wrote:I read somewhere that producers ban Russian for example because of some sort of Cold War syndrome or something. I don't know for sure, probably it was a tabloid article,

Thats bs!
I have cited and translated quite a few talk lines of girls, performers and directors here, including Nikita Bellucci and Chanel Lux for instance.

Question I think is rather wheter you want more acting or more realism. Bts is rather realism, US porn is full acting. In the early Sineplex scenes shot in Russia several years ago you have a lot of directors and also some girls comments in Russian. A lot of girls need instructions how to move and what to do and not always it can be done off recs between position changes, depends on the situation. Watching for me it depends on my mood wheter I want all this sometimes harsh realism or I'drather have more actingor just (often also encated) moans.

Generally I think too many people here and in other forums mix private sex with porn entertainment industry sex. Its not lovers we watch here, but actors and actresses doing their job. Of course some just like to fuck, but often they just do things they wouldnt do in private, because its payed better etc. Thus its not always the question wheter we can listen to their genuin hurls of lust in their native language or in english with that nice hard slavic accent, but often rather wheter we want their calls of protest (slow down!, too deep!, too big! etc) in their native language? Or do we just want a scripted enacted lust - and than in which language?
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby drevokocur66 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:38 am

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staygold wrote:I read somewhere that producers ban Russian for example because of some sort of Cold War syndrome or something. I don't know for sure, probably it was a tabloid article,

Thats bs!
I have cited and translated quite a few talk lines of girls, performers and directors here, including Nikita Bellucci and Chanel Lux for instance.

Question I think is rather wheter you want more acting or more realism. Bts is rather realism, US porn is full acting. In the early Sineplex scenes shot in Russia several years ago you have a lot of directors and also some girls comments in Russian. A lot of girls need instructions how to move and what to do and not always it can be done off recs between position changes, depends on the situation. Watching for me it depends on my mood wheter I want all this sometimes harsh realism or I'drather have more actingor just (often also encated) moans.

Generally I think too many people here and in other forums mix private sex with porn entertainment industry sex. Its not lovers we watch here, but actors and actresses doing their job. Of course some just like to fuck, but often they just do things they wouldnt do in private, because its payed better etc. Thus its not always the question wheter we can listen to their genuin hurls of lust in their native language or in english with that nice hard slavic accent, but often rather wheter we want their calls of protest (slow down!, too deep!, too big! etc) in their native language? Or do we just want a scripted enacted lust - and than in which language?



I love the sound of Czech, Slovak and Russian languages, but any native language is fine.
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:20 pm

Has anyone heard native language talking in any recent scenes? :rolleyes:

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby DukeBishop » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:15 pm

In Sienna Days 3 on 1 scene she talks dirty in her Geordie english accent but you can barely hear her!! it was so frustrating mic needed to be closer to her.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby twistedvincent » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:20 pm

I'm all for girls speaking in their native tongue during scenes... WAY FUCKING HOT!
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby leroisoleil83 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:01 pm

There are a ton of sites out there that already use subtitles, and they're *mostly* okay. So if they want to pursue this angle, than sure, go ahead. I'm not going to go so far as to say it will help the girls, or make things hotter, because... well, this isn't real sex. But in terms of entertainment, it would be fine.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:24 am

I'm still hoping we see and hear more of this :p

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Djaro » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:06 pm

I think stupid when pornstars say generic things like 'fuck my ass'', but love it when speaking perverted things like:
my shithole
push the shit
empty the your bag in my ass

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:36 pm

Agreed.

The poll also shows a lot of people are interested so I'll keep bumping this until we see some proper 'talking' from any lp studio.

I prefer at least 15-20-30 minutes of the girl talking in her native language :cool: :cool: :cool:

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:29 pm

I hope more dirty talk in upcoming Maria Devine and Chanel Lux for GG :p

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby dap-addict » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:16 pm

Hope something better than this from Chanel: ;)

When SOS finally realizes that Alberto could do better work than his favorite black studs and they try to dap the girl missionary on that chair Chanel resolves to a smiling but clear protest. "I want only one in my hole!", she yells in Russian while pushing the studs back. SOS does his best to convince her, but to no avail. :(
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Gemini » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:09 pm

Native language + English subtitles. The best option for me.
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Perenini » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:05 am

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby drevokocur66 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:43 am

Gemini wrote:Native language + English subtitles. The best option for me.


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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby TheVulture » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:26 pm

This comes up a lot, understandably. I like dirty talk too and generally the small number of British girls in porn about 10 years ago (Angel Long and Isabel Ice spring to mind in particular) were really good at it. I don't mind so much about the native language thing - as others have said, English is kind of the common world language for most people so I don't mind and it does make sense for the East European girls I think.

A great recent one for non-English dirty talk though is Monica Santiago, who did an LP scene recently. This was an instant buy for me as I think Monica is amazing and at one point while Ian Scott is pounding her ass she's talking dirty in Portuguese (I think - LP list her as Brazilian), which is brilliant. The only word I could make out is "culo", which makes sense and is always really horny to hear from a Spanish/Portuguese speaking girl. Scott's reaction to this is interesting actually - unfortunately he starts laughing a little bit and whilst I don't think it's meant in disrespect (he's probably just a bit surprised or something) for me it did spoil the scene as it kind of reminded me that it was porn (ie the participants haven't even met beforehand or whatever) and as a horny viewer I'd kinda hope that Scott would find it way horny rather than funny.

It's a pretty poor scene in general sadly (purely down to the guys; Scott is the best of them actually - the other 2 are appalling sadly) but Monica is superb and that section of dirty talk worth a listen if you want some in non-English. It's a feature of her scenes, of which I only have a small number sadly. Would love LP to get Monica back and put her with the younger guys to give her the pounding she deserves and really bring out that Portuguese filth! :)
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby dap-addict » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:54 am

drevokocur66 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:
staygold wrote:I read somewhere that producers ban Russian for example because of some sort of Cold War syndrome or something. I don't know for sure, probably it was a tabloid article,

Thats bs!
I have cited and translated quite a few talk lines of girls, performers and directors here, including Nikita Bellucci and Chanel Lux for instance.

Question I think is rather wheter you want more acting or more realism. Bts is rather realism, US porn is full acting. In the early Sineplex scenes shot in Russia several years ago you have a lot of directors and also some girls comments in Russian. A lot of girls need instructions how to move and what to do and not always it can be done off recs between position changes, depends on the situation. Watching for me it depends on my mood wheter I want all this sometimes harsh realism or I'drather have more actingor just (often also encated) moans.

Generally I think too many people here and in other forums mix private sex with porn entertainment industry sex. Its not lovers we watch here, but actors and actresses doing their job. Of course some just like to fuck, but often they just do things they wouldnt do in private, because its payed better etc. Thus its not always the question wheter we can listen to their genuin hurls of lust in their native language or in english with that nice hard slavic accent, but often rather wheter we want their calls of protest (slow down!, too deep!, too big! etc) in their native language? Or do we just want a scripted enacted lust - and than in which language?



I love the sound of Czech, Slovak and Russian languages, but any native language is fine.

A bit surprised nobody answered my question what you wanna hear in those native languages? :confused:
For me if it comes down only to enacted dirty talk its not worth it.
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby magizi877 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:35 pm

Franceska Jaimes did great in the dirty talk department in her 3 on 1 scene. It was in Spanish so if you understand it, fully recommend that one. Besides she takes Charlie Mac cock pretty deep.

Nikita Bellucci also sometimes says stuff, I have no clue what, but it sounds hot. LOL

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby drevokocur66 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:23 am

dap-addict wrote:
I love the sound of Czech, Slovak and Russian languages, but any native language is fine.

A bit surprised nobody answered my question what you wanna hear in those native languages? :confused:
For me if it comes down only to enacted dirty talk its not worth it.[/quote]

Again, I would not mind if BTS had the girls just talking among each other, during preparation, after the scene, during the scene. All is good. Love to hear the languages. I don't care what the conversation is about. Czech and Slovak my all time favorite. Such beautiful sound!
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby ZiziMinuscule » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:26 pm

drevokocur66 wrote:Again, I would not mind if BTS had the girls just talking among each other, during preparation, after the scene, during the scene. All is good. Love to hear the languages. I don't care what the conversation is about. Czech and Slovak my all time favorite. Such beautiful sound!


I would say all Slavic languagues are beautiful. Me too, I would eagerly listen to girls speaking in their mother tongues. About everything and nothing, just as they wish. More BTS, more mother tongues !
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Oldshark » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:01 am

dap-addict wrote:A bit surprised nobody answered my question what you wanna hear in those native languages? :confused:
For me if it comes down only to enacted dirty talk its not worth it.


That's true enough: If I understand what she's saying and that makes it obvious that it's an act, that's a boner killer.

I don't insist that girls be genuinely enthusiastic, but I do prefer those who manage to convince me that they are, however they do it. "Fuck me harder!" -- to choose the most obvious and trite porno line of all time, in all languages -- can still rev my motor, iRL or on-screen, if delivered with convincing sincerity.

If you can fake sincerity, the rest is easy, right? True of porn, true of life.

So in the end it really doesn't matter if I understand her or not. If she's being particularly kinked and clever, then yeah, I'd love to hear that in a language I understand (English, some Spanish). But even if I don't -- even if she's speaking ancient Urdu -- the tone of voice, the pitch, the velocity, the volume can all still register for me.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Oldshark » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:03 am

ZiziMinuscule wrote:I would say all Slavic languagues are beautiful. Me too, I would eagerly listen to girls speaking in their mother tongues. About everything and nothing, just as they wish. More BTS, more mother tongues !


I can't tell a Slavic language from any other of millions I don't speak. But I have grown very fond of Slavic women, and yeah, they sound amazing when they're inspired.
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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:53 pm

There are some new studios F Models and whatever Joachim Kessef makes now that he's a director... so how about this 'talking' niche ?! I'd love to watch :cool:

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby xmal-fuckland » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:36 am

+1 for girls speaking in their own accents. love those hot east european polish slovakian russian tones.
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subtitle it in english and if an interpreter is used you can jump edit to save running time.

dubbing no. it always sounds shitty cheap and is insulting to the speaker. subs is the way to go.

de sica, fellini, pasolini, grandi. all should be watched in original language with english subs. don't fuck with great art.
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(active) luca bella, ria sunn, emily thorne, milena devi, selvaggia.
(inactive) arwen gold, olivia devine, timea bella, anisiya.

thank you giorgio 'artista e maestro' for your great work.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Rittmeister64 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:52 am

I LOVE IT when the girls talk in broken English.
It just sound so damn sexy!
I don't care if they also talk in Czech or Russian of course, but give them a few lines in English, especially during the intro, but also during sex if they can, lol. :)

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Rittmeister64 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:09 am

here's a nice selection what the girls should say during sex, I'm sure other come up with more.

Fuck me (daddy), I love to feel you deep inside me.
Give it to me deep, (daddy).
I'm such a dirty whore, (daddy).
Is my pussy (ass) tight enough for you, (daddy)?
I want to come, please make me come (daddy).

Especially nice if the girl refers to herself as "whore" always. :cool:

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:38 pm

^ Yes :cool:

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby TheVulture » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:08 am

Rittmeister64 wrote:here's a nice selection what the girls should say during sex, I'm sure other come up with more.

Fuck me (daddy), I love to feel you deep inside me.
Give it to me deep, (daddy).
I'm such a dirty whore, (daddy).
Is my pussy (ass) tight enough for you, (daddy)?
I want to come, please make me come (daddy).

Especially nice if the girl refers to herself as "whore" always. :cool:


Please get your incest kicks elsewhere and leave LP for those of us who like to see strong, assertive women bursting from the screen (and are not sick).
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby staygold » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:16 pm

Bumping out of curiosity :p

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Re: Dirty talk and broken English

Postby Eizzi » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:10 pm

Is there a Scene in which the girls speak German Dirty Talk ?

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