evil-pineapples wrote:I never said you weren't allowed to do that, but I'm not required to like it.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:...if they start catering to every fetish that anyone suggests, they'll wind up like Evil Angel, where about 90% of the scenes that they release are weird niche material that only appeals to a very small group of people.
realtip wrote:To the contrary, it is about a certain type of girl. How else do you explain all the girls on here looking almost the same with no variety among appearance? Also, go take a look at the boobjob thread and see how many people based their opposition to girls with boobjobs on the claim that fake tits don't belong on LP. Apparently, many of the guys here feel that only scrawny pale white girls with small tits should be shot for LP, and that girls with fake tits do not fit in with the "LP formula," which is no different from your claim that rough sex doesn't fit in with the "LP formula."
So your fantasies are better than other peoples' fantasies? I didn't know that there was a fantasy competition. I don't particularly care what you or other people fantasize about. It's not my concern. Likewise, I have no idea why you're so concerned about what I fantasize about. So tell me, do you and evil-pineapples have matching thought police uniforms?
What the fuck is wrong with you where you keep thinking that LP has to set restrictions upon what it can shoot and can't shoot? What is this obsession you have with saying that LP should be able to shoot one thing, but not the other?
evil-pineapples wrote:So my opinion is worthless, but yours is not... and why is that exactly? Our opinions are of equal worth.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:Maybe you would like to see LP start shooting femdom scenes, cuckold scenes, BBW scenes, scenes with guys getting fucked in the ass with strapons, scenes that are nothing but dry humping for the entire scene, scenes with huge trannies fucking tiny gay guys dressed like butterflies, and all the other bizarre shit that Evil Angel churns out literally on a daily basis.
It's a hell of a lot cheaper than LP, and if it wasn't, I would have cancelled my Evil Angel membership a long time ago.
realtip wrote:I don't care what people claim. The fact is that LP (or, more accurately, Sineplex/Sinsational/Sinterracial/Evilutionplex/LP) has, from the start, and continuing until now, shot a wide variety of models. But the sex has always been basically the same. They have made some minor changes along the way, but nothing as drastic as you are advocating.
I guess if you can't refute my actual arguments, at least you can fantasize about arguments that you wish I would make, so you could refute them.
That might work with a subscription-based business model, where people can pay one low price to download the stuff they like and ignore the copious amounts of garbage, but with LP's ticket-based model, it's a sure recipe for bankruptcy.
The real question is why you (and a few other people) keep coming here trying to change the type of content that they produce. I don't go to Kink and start telling them to get rid of all the bondage, S&M, and other fetish stuff. Nor do I go to Naughty America and tell them to start shooting all-anal gangbangs full of DPs. If you don't like the content that LP produces, why did you come here in the first place? And more importantly, why don't you leave and go find somewhere that does make the kind of stuff you like?
Or at least, go find somewhere else to play your broken record.
evil-pineapples wrote:I still don't see how I'm a hypocrite. I respect your right to like and watch the things you want to like and watch, and to come on this forum and ask for them, but I don't have to agree with it, like it, help you find it, or support you in your quest to get LP to make it in any way whatsoever.
But there is no hypocrisy. Just because I disagree with you, that doesn't make me a hypocrite.
I get the sense that you're equating me with an anti-porn activist somehow, but the difference is that I'm trying to ban anything. I'm simply requesting that a particular company refrain from producing a certain type of porn. That is not at all the same thing as trying to get it banned, and the fact that you would equate those concepts in your twisted mind and try to spin the situation so that it's all about YOU and YOUR opinions being unfairly targeted speaks volumes about your sad ego.
This is an open discussion forum. People will disagree with you. People are allowed to disagree with you. If enough people disagree with you, maybe things won't go your way. That's life. Get over it.
If you want to watch "rape fantasy," go somewhere else. It's not something that enough of us want here for it to be worthwhile. I am so, so dreadfully sorry that the opinions of your peers don't align with your own on this subject, but I am sure you'll find a way to cope.
I am not calling for a ban on your precious "rape fantasy," nor am I (or TLA, for that matter) saying that LP should never change or explore new ideas. We're just saying that we don't like the idea you came up with. We don't want to see that shit here.
alongwaysouth wrote:I still wanna see Simony do her 1st DAP at LP. A 4 or 5 on 1, cocks of all colours and all finishing in her ass.
Other MILFS? Or maybe just veterans? Lucy Lee would be a good start. I'd even be interested to see how Julie Silver fucks these days. Claudia Rossi seems to have worked her way beyond the caper (smart lady, by all reports), so probably a real long shot.
If anyone knows where Angel Dark is these days, she'd be great to have back. My guess is she's probably beefed up a bit, but she did love ATP (even said so to camera once). Took ACP's, too (just not often enough).
Who else? Oh, yeah, the great Moni from back in the Sineplex days. She's done a bit of bondage stuff, too, and man doesn't she do it well. Just a magnificent face and smile. Cherry Jul? Great ass fuck, Cherry. Lis - what a gape. Wendy/Pusia (her scene with Moni was a classic).
Heaps more, obviously.
Is Abelinda/Sarah a MILF yet? The complete anal queen, that girl.
realtip wrote:No, I don't want to see any of those things. But if LP were to decide to start shooting them, I could always choose to avoid watching them.
So you constantly complain about the stuff Evil Angel produces, yet you still have a subscription there? Meanwhile, you adamantly oppose any new idea that anyone suggests for LP, even if it's nowhere near as bizarre as the stuff that Evil Angel produces, for which you still pay a membership. Do you not see how ironic this is?
realtip wrote:So everything must always stay the same? Nothing must ever change? You must be one boring person. You sound like the type of person who eats the same meal for breakfast, lunch, and dinner everyday, or who wears the same outfit everyday because you don't want to break your "formula."
I'm not trying to change anything. For the most part, I like what LP produces. Otherwise, you're right that I wouldn't be here paying my money to buy their scenes. But just because I like what they already produce doesn't mean that I'm opposed to them doing anything different that I may also like. Unlike you, I'm not resistant to change, or believe it to be a terrible thing. I like what LP produces now, but I disagree with you that it has to operate in some static bubble and never do anything new. If LP followed your advice, there's a whole lot of stuff they wouldn't be shooting now just because they didn't used to shoot it before. Change can be a positive thing, despite your obstinance in realizing that.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:You miss the point (again). LP only puts out 1 scene per day. If they start shooting all that other shit, we'll be lucky to get 3 good scenes a month. You think I'm going to pay $80 for a 3-month membership that gets me 10 good scenes?
You truly have the worst reading comprehension of anyone I've ever encountered. The sentence that you quoted right above that was: It's a hell of a lot cheaper than LP, and if it wasn't, I would have cancelled my Evil Angel membership a long time ago. Go back and read that over and over again until it starts to sink in.
Yet another straw man. I never said nothing could change. Of course they should make minor changes (different girls, different outfits, different positions, etc.), but what they should not do is abandon the basic formula that they have always employed, and whether you want to admit it or not, a big part of that formula is the girls willingly submitting to various kinds of nasty, perverted sex.
You remind me of a guy who goes to a steakhouse, and then complains because they don't serve pizza. When you want pizza, go to a pizza place. When you want steak, go to a steakhouse. But don't expect to find one restaurant that serves every type of food you could ever desire, because no restaurant would be stupid enough to try to do that, and if they did, they'd go out of business in a hurry.
realtip wrote:...my reading comprehension couldn't possibly be anywhere near as bad as your arithmetic skills. "3 good scenes a month?" How the fuck did you pull that number out of your ass?
You must not go out to eat a lot, do you? The more appropriate comparison would be applicable to you. You're like the guy who guys into a steakhouse and raises a fuss that the steakhouse should only serve sirloin and not porterhouse just because it didn't serve porterhouse before, and then goes about comparing porterhouse to every other type of food that the steakhouse doesn't serve. Even though it's almost all the same and comes from the same animal, you insist that adding something new to the menu would be a "drastic change" just because you happen not to like it.
I never asked LP to produce everything, neither would I expect it to. I'm suggesting that it continue to produce what it already produces, just rougher and more aggressive. I'm not even saying that every scene needs to be that. However, I see no reason not to believe that there are enough customers here who would like to see it. And again, for you to be a member of a site that shows pissing, fisting, cream, and everything else, you sitting on here throwing a tantrum over the suggestion that LP add rough sex scenes just makes you look petty and ridiculous.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:Pay attention. I said that about 90% of the scenes Evil Angel puts out are garbage scenes that only appeal to a small niche. LP only puts out 30 scenes a month, so if 90% of them were garbage, that would leave 3 good scenes a month.
Surprise, surprise. Yet another straw man argument. I never said that rough sex would be a drastic departure from the LP formula. I said that these rape simulation scenes you keep talking about would be a drastic departure. There is a huge difference between rough sex and rape. In fact, LP has already shot a number of rough sex scenes. For example, almost all of Misha Cross's scenes have been on the rough side, and I have no problem with that, because she was clearly into it. She never pretended she was being raped, or tried to get the guys to stop, or any shit like that. It is simply unfathomable to me that you cannot see the huge difference between clearly consensual rough sex and this "rape fantasy" garbage.
If you are so into all this "rape fantasy" stuff, why stop there? Why not ask LP to shoot some "snuff fantasy" scenes, where they pretend to kill the girl, and then fuck her corpse? I'm sure, in your warped mind, that type of scene would also just be a "minor" deviation from the current scenes, right?
realtip wrote:I'm paying attention, which is how I know that you're spewing a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense. We're talking about LP here, not Evil Angel. What the fuck does EA content have to do with LP content? They are two completely different sites. You keep bringing up shit that has absolutely nothing with the topic.
Surprise, surprise. You wandering off topic yet again with more stupid bullshit. Would it kill you to stick to the topic at hand? If you're not talking about scat, you're talking about Evil Angel. If you're not talking about an "LP formula," you're talking about some other foolishness. Now, you've somehow wandered into talking about snuff flicks. When you learn to stay on topic with your points, maybe then you accuse of people of not properly addressing your points. Until then, you're obviously just reaching and pulling whatever nonsense you can find out of your ass to support your bullshit.
LP is a site that already has extreme content, such as anal, DP, ATM, ATP, cream, pissing, 0% pussy, gangbangs, etc. As you yourself said, some scenes already have rough sex elements in them. Therefore, it is not "drastic" at all to suggest that more scenes include these elements as well as futher explore other areas such as scenarios that involve coercion or female reluctance/resistance.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:I've already explained this about a thousand times. If LP starts shooting any fetish that anyone suggests, with no regard for whether it fits in with the other material already here, they'll wind up just like Evil Angel, with a bunch of bizarre crap.
None of the things that you mention have anything to do with simulated rape scenes. There is just as big a difference (if not more so) between clearly consensual rough sex and simulated rape as there is between ass licking and scat. If you don't understand that, then further discussion with you is obviously pointless.
realtip wrote:Tastes Like Ass wrote:I've already explained this about a thousand times. If LP starts shooting any fetish that anyone suggests, with no regard for whether it fits in with the other material already here, they'll wind up just like Evil Angel, with a bunch of bizarre crap.
You can explain it a million times. If it doesn't make any sense, then repeating it over and over again isn't going to make it make sense. Nobody is asking LP to do "any fetish." Nobody is asking LP to start producing scenes with 80 year-old midgets fucking 600 lb. clowns in their armpits. I haven't seen anyone asking for anything like this. Suggesting that a site that already produces extreme sex between adult live human beings expand into producing the same extreme sex with elements of female reluctance between the same adult live human beings is not the big end-of-the-world deal that you overexaggerate it to be.
If you don't like it, fine. Then just say you don't like it, and leave it at that. But quit it with the nonsense about how it's some drastic monumental leap from what's already here. That's just plain overreactionary bullshit.None of the things that you mention have anything to do with simulated rape scenes. There is just as big a difference (if not more so) between clearly consensual rough sex and simulated rape as there is between ass licking and scat. If you don't understand that, then further discussion with you is obviously pointless.
You mean like how you can't tell the difference between simulated force and necrophilia? You just keep coming up with one dumb statement after another. If you really have to keep making these stupid outlandish comparisons to try to prove whatever your ridiculous point is, then you are clearly the one who has a serious problem with basic common sense.
realtip wrote:alongwaysouth wrote:I still wanna see Simony do her 1st DAP at LP. A 4 or 5 on 1, cocks of all colours and all finishing in her ass.
Other MILFS? Or maybe just veterans? Lucy Lee would be a good start. I'd even be interested to see how Julie Silver fucks these days. Claudia Rossi seems to have worked her way beyond the caper (smart lady, by all reports), so probably a real long shot.
If anyone knows where Angel Dark is these days, she'd be great to have back. My guess is she's probably beefed up a bit, but she did love ATP (even said so to camera once). Took ACP's, too (just not often enough).
Who else? Oh, yeah, the great Moni from back in the Sineplex days. She's done a bit of bondage stuff, too, and man doesn't she do it well. Just a magnificent face and smile. Cherry Jul? Great ass fuck, Cherry. Lis - what a gape. Wendy/Pusia (her scene with Moni was a classic).
Heaps more, obviously.
Is Abelinda/Sarah a MILF yet? The complete anal queen, that girl.
You are aware that just about everybody you listed there hasn't been active in years, right? I don't think Julie Silver, for example, has been seen performing in like 10 years. None of them probably even look the same now as they did when they were performing as they have all most likely aged since they left. With all the hot girls that are in porn right now, I have no idea why some people insist on living in the past.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:Now you seem to have abandoned the straw men, and decided to resort to pure ad hominem attacks and insults. Until you address the points I am making, rather than just yelling and waving your hands, this "discussion" is pointless.
gannicus wrote:Good idea , sandra romain , kathy anderson , stacy silver and more
dpconnoisseur1 wrote:+1 for more MILFs, but attractive ones like Eva Karrera!
gapefan wrote:...the lady above is a good example of one who I personally don't find very attractive.
Tastes Like Ass wrote:ElJab78 wrote:You guys are way too focused on the dudes.
The reason why we're so "focused on the dudes" is that it's very frustrating to see so many potentially great scenes being largely ruined by incompetent male performers. (I won't name names, since apparently some of them read the forums and are very sensitive. I definitely wouldn't want to do anything to contribute to their performance anxiety.)
gapefan wrote:You bet I am. Thats why I clearly stated it was my only my own personal preference and did so in a respectful and tactful manner and tone, rather than simply insulting.
Because I'm just as afraid of hurting her feelings, as you are of contributing to his performance anxiety ...Tastes Like Ass wrote:ElJab78 wrote:You guys are way too focused on the dudes.
The reason why we're so "focused on the dudes" is that it's very frustrating to see so many potentially great scenes being largely ruined by incompetent male performers. (I won't name names, since apparently some of them read the forums and are very sensitive. I definitely wouldn't want to do anything to contribute to their performance anxiety.)
Mr. Sensitivity
If you were half as worried about women's feelings as you are men's, you and I would have never had this conversation
gapefan wrote:Please do not talk about pornstars, directors or producers as if they are not here. (Katsumi sums it up nicely.) We are lucky to have industry participants, and they are paying attention to your constructive criticism. That is not to say there can not be any criticism. There most certainly can be. However, insults will get you nowhere and lead to the deactivation of your forum account. If you choose to criticize, do so constructively and with respect.
gapefan wrote:I will point out the fact that I didn't use any derogatory words, because it's a fact. No matter how hard you try to change what you would like others to believe the implications of my comment might be, it will never change what I actually said, or make what I am saying now, any less true
And by the way, your comment about not wanting to contribute to the guys performance anxiety is clearly open to interpretation. At least by your logic. It's quite possible for us to draw all kinds of implications from what you said!
*Please refrain from pedantically trying to put words in other peoples mouths
And do try to stay on topic, instead of derailing this thread like you do so many others...
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