Going downhill and back up again

[staygold]

Please note that the whole point of such discussions is to examine opinions and help our content providers. After all, it's still FOR FANS BY FANS, isn't it?

Don't be agressive, try to stick to the facts and sound smart and reasonable. Let's try to make it better, not worse.

Note for "pissing fans" and those who bash them:

FYI: Production of piss scenes stopped on April 2015, but every studio is allowed to publish what ever it has already been shoot before.

The big deal:

Let's face it - it's been a long time we saw anything decent. I am not speaking about pissing at all, I'm trying to figure the whole thing. The most popular discussions now are "Tired of double anal" and "Shitty male talent". When people ask for changes and variety, they are instantly called "bullshit" and "pissing fans". "The elder" males keep appearing in every second scene, getting their allowance, so the whole thing looks like a retirement home. Variety? DAP and TAP, here is your variety. Followed with a tiny drop of cum, of course, because those 50+ steriod grandfathers cannot technically produce more. Interaction? We even have to make a separate thread to advocate girls showing finger, that's how it's done these days.

This is surely not the way things were previously.

I was really surprised when I read here that booking a girl isn't 90% of the price. Now it seems I figured some facts, here is a summary:

1) Tipfuck (TAP) and Demi-tipfuck (DAP) penetration is the new solution to getting more $$$ fast and easy. I can imagine producers telling the girls just to suffer this nonsense for once, so they could x2 the price.

2) Lighting kits. Invest in those HIGHKEY kits, fill it with white as much as possible and call it "expenses". Ambient light like before? It's too amateur and cheap, we make $$$ here.

3) Other niches? Call any niche "minority", "pissing" or "bullshit" and skip/ignore/lock requests for it. Proceed with #1.

Bottom line:

I really wish these facts were proven wrong with new epic and varied content, I really do. I want Legalporno back, not TipfuckPorno or a subsection of EvilAngel / HardX / Julesjordan. I also try to be positive, but IMO the only positive thing now are GIO movies and Giorgio himself who is here with us: listening, replying and improving his production.

Finally, they like to call "minority" those who want something different and creative, that's why I decided to have a poll here, hope it won't be manipulated. Some users here have difficulties in understanding English so I tried to make it simple

Just my 2 cents. What do you guys think/expect/suggest?

[Boshanks]

Let's face it - it's been a long time we saw anything decent.

I didn't see any point in reading past this because I completely disagree. The only change I would like is a return to when the forum wasn't a complete cancerous cesspool, where every day a new topic wasn't being posted about how terrible this site is and what needs to change. I'm almost at the stage where I don't even want to visit here anymore, so god knows how the producers and performers feel.

[dap-addict]

Felt extactly the same like Boshanks!
LP has one of the best times also in sales rates currently and still so many negative threads!
Not sure but with some posters it seems they dont really know the studio they post about, dont say they are trolls, but.

1) Tipfuck (TAP) and Demi-tipfuck (DAP) penetration is the new solution to getting more $$$ fast and easy. I can imagine producers telling the girls just to suffer this nonsense for once, so they could x2 the price.

Seems you have no idea about porn actress rates.


Btw, this said its clear that tipficking has to be minimized and replaced by balls deep fucking, but this is done gradually.

[gapefan]

LegalPorno is doing just fine the way it is

Looks like a steady uphill trend to me!

http://www. alexa. com/siteinfo/legalporno. com

[rollin_dubs187]

Let's face it - it's been a long time we saw anything decent.

I didn't see any point in reading past this because I completely disagree. The only change I would like is a return to when the forum wasn't a complete cancerous cesspool, where every day a new topic wasn't being posted about how terrible this site is and what needs to change. I'm almost at the stage where I don't even want to visit here anymore, so god knows how the producers and performers feel.

Here we go again saying that we don't have the right to complain or voice our opinion. I think this comment pretty much proves his point.

[rollin_dubs187]

LegalPorno is doing just fine the way it is

Looks like a steady uphill trend to me!

http://www. alexa. com/siteinfo/legalporno. com

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Not saying your wrong, but it seems to me that the majority of the increase came before the DAP, 10 on 1 craze this site has turned into over the past 6 months. Again, not a huge piss advocate but the most growth was around the time piss scenes where becoming much more prevalent. Since then looks like growth has stagnated quite a bit around February 2016, at least until recently. Interesting how piss scenes stopped being uploaded right at that time. We will see what that same graph looks like once the drastic content changes this site has made over the past 6 months really starts to sink in with viewers.

[rollin_dubs187]

Btw, this said its clear that tipficking has to be minimized and replaced by balls deep fucking, but this is done gradually.

What? no it hasn't

[Boshanks]

Again, not a huge piss advocate but the most growth was around the time piss scenes where becoming much more prevalent. Since then looks like growth has stagnated quite a bit around February 2016, at least until recently. Interesting how piss scenes stopped being uploaded right at that time.

And we're back at the crux of it all, it didn't take long, only five posts. It's funny because I feel this forum took a nosedive right around the time the cease in production was announced, and the fans of that niche are still hanging around to tell the rest of us just how shit this site now is.

I have no problem with people complaining or voicing opinions, but 90% of the time it's not constructive in any way, it's just stamping of feet from those who aren't getting what they want. One of the first points in this topic is attempting to speak on the behalf of everybody, stating that we face up to the situation that nothing decent has been produced in quite a long time.... I disagree.

I've also been around since the inception of Legalporno, I would like to hear from op exactly what it is he's referring to when he says a return to the varied content LP used to produce. Why not offer up some opinions about what you feel would be different and creative, instead of looking for other like minded people to support you and agree on how bad things are.

[staygold]

I have no problem with people complaining or voicing opinions, but 90% of the time it's not constructive in any way

I think I should clear things a bit:

1) I provided a number of reasons, you did not even bother reading. Who is constructive?

2) When action becomes boring tipfucking shit people have to come up with such discussions, end of story. After all, you should be thankful to people who basically do producer's job, read feedback, examine things and express opinions.

If producers did not like it, they would never open the forums, they would remove trailers, [spam] updates and previews once and for all.

3) When you write something, please respect other person's taste and fetish.

4) Please don't merge 'pissing' with 'any other niche' and 'varied content', THIS IS NOT THE SAME. And don't attempt to play on words, saying funny things like "we're back at the crux of it all" - it is neither constructive, nor related. I think most people still refer to 'pissing' because it means 'niche and variety'.

I did not want to offend you or sound rude. I respect your fetish and I want others to respect mine. I did not like those previous discussions which ended with meaningless rant because people misunderstood things.

That's why, again:

Don't be agressive, try to stick to the facts and sound smart and reasonable. Let's try to make it better, not worse.

[staygold]

it seems they dont really know the studio they post about,

Other studios? I said GIO is currently the best, Gonzo makes a lot of failures, Sineplex is like hit-or-miss, plus it was out booking US girls for a long time.

Consistency and variety are needed, you cannot deny that

Seems you have no idea about porn actress rates.

I don't and I really shouldn't. It is not my job. I come here for my hobby - watching beauties in nasty and varied hardcore action.

I'm not really a fan of DAP/TAP because it's a short sequence of tipfucking, filmed in closeup which I hate and showing 90% of male body parts in one picture. Give me examples of PASSIONATE BALLS-DEEP DAP or TAP, I would really like to have a look.

Looks like a steady uphill trend to me!

Dear gape-fan, I am also a gape-fan, just like you! But please tell me, where those gaping asses, enema and gapefarts are now? Probably this discussion can help you find them: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=12582

Speaking of trends and graphs, I'm not an expert here, let your specialists do the maths, but sales might up because of a) girls b) amazing GIO movies and c) older releases.

I think those rankings are not really representative. They are high because it's a porn site, best in Europe and probably in the world which means you just have a trademark. This is great but it is not necessarily related to what's going on here now. People are coming here for girls, amazing GIO movies and older releases or just register out of interest. If you start shooting solo scenes with dildos, for example, these stats will be still high and growing.

Again, if I liked graphs and statistics, I would watch them instead of the girls. How about watching a trailer beginning with one of those graphs?

[Boshanks]

1) I provided a number of reasons, you did not even bother reading. Who is constructive?

I read your post before I posted my second, you provide nothing. You can't say I figured some facts and then offer up opinions, that's not what a fact is. Actually reread your three points, they're complete nonsense... these aren't reasons or facts, they're conjecture. There's always a new topic being created that contributes nothing but negativity, they become popular because each time they're filled with the same handful of members.

2) When action becomes boring tipfucking shit people have to come up with such discussions, end of story.

In your opinion, and I made no suggestion that you shouldn't be allowed to express that, but at least try and bring some ideas to the table, and don't speak on the behalf of me by suggesting we all agree nothing good has been produced in some time. On this subject, are you stating that everything being produced right now is "boring tipfucking shit," is this another one of your facts ? I won't deny that there's some from time to time, but it's almost always coming out of one studio.

If producers did not like it, they would never open the forums, they would remove trailers, [spam] updates and previews once and for all.

So I guess we'll just ignore the posts made by Giorgio, xxx and evilpineapples, telling us how difficult it is to read the constant negativity from some posters.

3) When you write something, please respect other person's taste and fetish.

I do, an example of where I don't please.

4) Please don't merge 'pissing' with 'any other niche' and 'varied content', THIS IS NOT THE SAME. And don't attempt to play on words, saying funny things like "we're back at the crux of it all" - it is neither constructive, nor related. I think most people still refer to 'pissing' because it means 'niche and variety'.

Did I merge, was it me who introduced piss to this topic ? and how is it not related when somebody brings it in to the conversation. You're telling me not to confuse piss with variety, and at the same time defending those who do by saying "I think most people still refer to 'pissing' because it means 'niche and variety'."

You haven't offended me, you have no idea what my fetish is to suggest you respect it, just as I have no idea what it is you like or want because all you have offered up is the vague term "variety". Your original post brings nothing to the forum. Once again, where is any suggestion from you, or creative idea, about what it is you want to see ?

[staygold]

I read your post before I posted my second, you provide nothing.

I didn't see any point in reading past this because I completely disagree.

Did I merge

And we're back at the crux of it all, it didn't take long, only five posts
...
the fans of that niche are still hanging around to tell the rest of us just how shit this site now is.

Relax dude, take it easy.

I don't say the site is shit, you got it wrong. We are not 'going downhill' - it's just a catchy expression used by other users here to attract attention, don't get that offended!

at least try and bring some ideas to the table
...
Once again, where is any suggestion from you, or creative idea, about what it is you want to see ?

Variety and creative ideas are everything a producer/director can come up with, I'm not a director/producer of LP to come up with ideas. It is their job. HOWEVER, I kindly suggested some ideas previously and some people liked them:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=12538
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=12443

I won't deny that there's some from time to time, but it's almost always coming out of one studio.

I'm glad you are also starting to see this. So please let's stop with all that fuss, stop pointing at each other's words and let producers and directors do their job... creatively and with that good old flavour of small fetishes.

[rollin_dubs187]

Again, not a huge piss advocate but the most growth was around the time piss scenes where becoming much more prevalent. Since then looks like growth has stagnated quite a bit around February 2016, at least until recently. Interesting how piss scenes stopped being uploaded right at that time.

And we're back at the crux of it all, it didn't take long, only five posts. It's funny because I feel this forum took a nosedive right around the time the cease in production was announced, and the fans of that niche are still hanging around to tell the rest of us just how shit this site now is.

I have no problem with people complaining or voicing opinions, but 90% of the time it's not constructive in any way, it's just stamping of feet from those who aren't getting what they want. One of the first points in this topic is attempting to speak on the behalf of everybody, stating that we face up to the situation that nothing decent has been produced in quite a long time.... I disagree.

I've also been around since the inception of Legalporno, I would like to hear from op exactly what it is he's referring to when he says a return to the varied content LP used to produce. Why not offer up some opinions about what you feel would be different and creative, instead of looking for other like minded people to support you and agree on how bad things are.

My point is DAP didnt create this sites popularity, but other niches did (the exact niche is irrelovant). Since the increase in dap growth has slowed down dramatically. You are focusing on the complete wrong part of my argument. I dont care that piss os gone. I do care that this site has been hijacked to pander towards 1 fetish DAP. Dont twist my argument.

[rollin_dubs187]

Check out this sweet pic. Look at all those dicks being shoved, wait is that some dudes armpit?

Ahhh yes, zoom out and it's much better. I can ALMOST tell that there is a woman under there

[Boshanks]

I don't say the site is shit, you got it wrong. We are not 'going downhill' - it's just a catchy expression used by other users here to attract attention, don't get that offended!

So you said it for affect just to get attention, why ? If you're going to redirect me to existing threads that cover your point, what was the need for this one ?

[Boshanks]

My point is DAP didnt create this sites popularity, but other niches did (the exact niche is irrelovant). Since the increase in dap growth has slowed down dramatically. You are focusing on the complete wrong part of my argument. I dont care that piss os gone. I do care that this site has been hijacked to pander towards 1 fetish DAP. Dont twist my argument.

I'd suggest that the models and the hardcore anal they're performing is what created this sites popularity, the truth is neither of us know who's right, but one of us is convinced they are. If you think it's the niches that made this site popular, provide me with one example of a site that caters to the niche crowd, that's remotely comparable to LP's popularity and success.

You're good at cherry picking specific examples to support your point, I'm not a huge fan of dap either, and certainly not tap, but I've seen plenty of scenes where I could see all of the model and she's performing balls deep dap. My preference would be dp if I was solely concerned with getting my own way, but most of the scenes contain it anyway, most updates attempt to cover all bases in my opinion.

[rollin_dubs187]

I think most people still refer to 'pissing' because it means 'niche and variety'.

This is exactly right. The type of fetish is irrelevant. What is relevant is that those who attacked others fetishes in the past and got them banned are the same ones that are trying to push down others opinions today. Fucking tyrants!

[staygold]

So you said it for affect just to get attention, why ? If you're going to redirect me to existing threads that cover your point, what was the need for this one ?

Dear Boshanks, I'm not a journalist either to make titles everybody loves or hates. Even if I was, I would not bother, because it's a pornsite

I just express my opinion and want people to hear it, understand correctly and share ideas so we would enjoy content equally. Like I said previously, it's up to a director to make content enjoyable for everyone, be it dap-addicts or niche fans.

I am glad we don't argue and pick on each other anymore, and I hope no one would do this in this discussion.

[rollin_dubs187]

You're good at cherry picking specific examples to support your point, I'm not a huge fan of dap either, and certainly not tap, but I've seen plenty of scenes where I could see all of the model and she's performing balls deep dap. My preference would be dp if I was solely concerned with getting my own way, but most of the scenes contain it anyway, most updates attempt to cover all bases in my opinion.

Im not cherry picking. I could give you about 1000 other examples if you like. Can you name this scene with balls deep dap? I would love to see it. If it does exist it is one in a million. The reason I pick on DAP is because it is solely the number one produced fetish right now and I fucking hate it

[Boshanks]

I am glad we don't argue and pick on each other anymore, and I hope no one would do this in this discussion.

If you feel I've picked on you, I apologise, I do understand that my tone is often misconstrued as aggression. I really don't like the direction this forum has been going for some time now, I think it looks bad for anyone who visits here, and I can only imagine how shit it must be to constantly read some of these threads when you're a producer or performer.

it's up to a director to make content enjoyable for everyone

That's an impossible task.

Can you name this scene with balls deep dap? I would love to see it. If it does exist it is one in a million. The reason I pick on DAP is because it is solely the number one produced fetish right now and I fucking hate it

I could name plenty, but what would be the point ? You've just stated that you hate it, so me wasting my time directing you to scenes you have no interest in is pointless.

Do you not want to answer this ?

My point is DAP didnt create this sites popularity, but other niches did (the exact niche is irrelovant). Since the increase in dap growth has slowed down dramatically. You are focusing on the complete wrong part of my argument. I dont care that piss os gone. I do care that this site has been hijacked to pander towards 1 fetish DAP. Dont twist my argument.

I'd suggest that the models and the hardcore anal they're performing is what created this sites popularity, the truth is neither of us know who's right, but one of us is convinced they are. If you think it's the niches that made this site popular, provide me with one example of a site that caters to the niche crowd that's remotely comparable to LP's popularity and success.

[rollin_dubs187]

I could name plenty, but what would be the point ? You've just stated that you hate it, so me wasting my time directing you to scenes you have no interest in is pointless.

Then do it, you gonna make a comment like that and then not back it up? I am not asking for content I would enjoy. I am asking you to prove me wrong if you can. Seems to me like you can't.

I'd suggest that the models and the hardcore anal they're performing is what created this sites popularity, the truth is neither of us know who's right, but one of us is convinced they are. If you think it's the niches that made this site popular, provide me with one example of a site that caters to the niche crowd that's remotely comparable to LP's popularity and success.

Your not gonna prove your point yet you expect me to prove mine? Sorry bud, I can't do it. I would if I could. However, this is the only site out there that ever did cater to the niche crowd with any quality production value and cute young girls. Mix those 3 together and you have a best selling porn site.

[Ferocious]

I really wish these facts were proven wrong with new epic and varied content, I really do. I want Legalporno back, not TipfuckPorno or a subsection of EvilAngel / HardX / Julesjordan.

Thanks for that and your whole post. I totally agree.

Here we go again saying that we don't have the right to complain or voice our opinion. I think this comment pretty much proves his point.

Exactly!

I'd suggest that the models and the hardcore anal they're performing is what created this sites popularity

Mostly true, but I think there are two more things (focus on big cocks and courage for some uncommon scenes/settings like kreme), which made the site big.
Also I don't get the point, why "hardcore anal" nowadays has to mean DAP/TAP and less deep penetration.

[rollin_dubs187]

why "hardcore anal" nowadays has to mean DAP/TAP and less deep penetration.

This is a great point +1000.

[Boshanks]

Then do it, you gonna make a comment like that and then not back it up? I am not asking for content I would enjoy. I am asking you to prove me wrong if you can. Seems to me like you can't.

Any Arwen gold scene, 90% of Timeas scenes, any Linda Sweet scene, any of Belle Claires scenes for Giorgio, any Proxy Paige scene, any Isabella Clarke scene, Nataly Golds scenes for Giorgio, in fact Giorgio alone has so many that this is a complete waste of my time. Watch any of them, your choice, and tell me they don't contain balls deep dap, particularly in cowgirl which is obviously the easiest to achieve.

Your not gonna prove your point yet you expect me to prove mine? Sorry bud, I can't do it. I would if I could. However, this is the only site out there that ever did cater to the niche crowd with any quality production value and cute young girls. Mix those 3 together and you have a best selling porn site.

So now we're mixing three things, it's not just about niches anymore ? It's okay to admit that you can't name one, it was rhetorical. There are niche sites out there that have featured cute young girls, they have never been big players in the industry. Don't you find it strange that the biggest and most successful porn companies don't offer this type of content, and the one that did has scrapped it, what does that tell you ?

[leroiosoleil83]

Doesn't anyone ever get tired of making the same point over and over? Haha.

The opinion of someone who doesn't make 20 posts a day - I've been enjoying the content provided currently, in my short time here, but would be open to more variety. I'm personally not into seeing women used as toilets, but if other niches were pursued, I would buy the content. The only thing I'm not into is pissing and shitting. Oh, and I only go for straight porn. Not interested in male-gays or trans.

[rollin_dubs187]

Then do it, you gonna make a comment like that and then not back it up? I am not asking for content I would enjoy. I am asking you to prove me wrong if you can. Seems to me like you can't.

Any Arwen gold scene, 90% of Timeas scenes, any Linda Sweet scene, any of Belle Claires scenes for Giorgio, any Proxy Paige scene, any Isabella Clarke scene, Nataly Golds scenes for Giorgio, in fact Giorgio alone has so many that this is a complete waste of my time. Watch any of them, your choice, and tell me they don't contain balls deep dap, particularly in cowgirl which is obviously the easiest to achieve.

HAHAHA. That is the laziest answer I have ever heard. The type of answer someone would say if they can't come up with a decent response. I own DAP scenes from all those actresses in all those situation and NONE of them have balls deep DAP. Apparently we have a fundamental difference in the definition of "balls deep".

If you have to pin point a single position needed to achieve your definition of balls deep, then it doesn't really say much about the niche's ability to achieve it overall. Solo anal can achieve balls deep anal fucking in every single position with no problems.

[Boshanks]

What exactly do you want from me, hyperlinks to every scene in which I've personally seen it. You're just making yourself look stupid now. Are you really going to claim that none of those women have achieved it ? and that you've purchased the dap scenes of all of them despite the fact that you've claimed you hate it ? Suggesting this content doesn't exist is one of the most asinine comments I've read on here.

Engage your brain, of course I have to pinpoint a position because it's not feasible in certain others.

You move the goalposts on every point you make, which if anything continuously proves you don't have one. Now we're talking about it being achievable in every position are we ?

[drevokocur66]

Childish bickering. LP is going to do what they want, and only thing that will change anything is $$$. Sadly, as GIO pointed out, some of us are in a minority, and our $$$ make no difference. So the only thing to do is wait, and hope. If LP has to ever tighten their collective belt, will see more diverse content again. Until then, LP and the studios will do as little as possible to make as much as possible. Money talks, and bullshit walks.

[Boshanks]

Yes LP does as little as possible and only what it wants, and yet after people requested new locations from Gonzo they started trying to provide it for them. When people have been asking for more interracial content, Giorgio started putting together a team to bring that to them.

It seems to me that LP is not doing what you want them to do, and rather selfishly you eagerly await their finances to take a hit in the hope that you can once again get your own way.

A business attempting to maximise profits by targeting the part of the market they know to be the most profitable.... what kind of fucking bullshit is this

[drevokocur66]

Yes LP does as little as possible and only what it wants, and yet after people requested new locations from Gonzo they started trying to provide it for them. When people have been asking for more interracial content, Giorgio started putting together a team to bring that to them.

It seems to me that LP is not doing what you want them to do, and rather selfishly you eagerly await their finances to take a hit in the hope that you can once again get your own way.

A business attempting to maximise profits by targeting the part of the market they know to be the most profitable.... what kind of fucking bullshit is this

Right!? but in good economy, the finances won't take a hit. LP porn is good porn. I am not knocking it. For me, it lacks the content I was willing to pay a premium for, but the content is still good and I hope they do well. I am not wishing LP any bad karma. No hate here...

[Boshanks]

That's debatable for sure, I'm not saying you're wrong, but an argument could be made that particular acts would drive away some of the larger viewer base.

[drevokocur66]

That's debatable for sure, I'm not saying you're wrong, but an argument could be made that particular acts would drive away some of the larger viewer base.

I doubt it. I am not saying ALL videos need to have same content. Just have a balanced mix. Something for everyone's kinky side. I am not a selfish bastard

For instance, I think it would be hot if, lets say 2girls one guy, and the girls fingered the guy while giving head, or even a strap on scene would be hot.
Not everyone would agree, but it won't drive large viewer base if once in a while that happens.

Ass milkshakes would be awesome, again for a selected crowd but would not drive large base away.

fisting, pissing, some bdsm..,

In moderation, I think content mentioned above would not have that effect. Obviously you can not please everyone at the same time, but taking turns, it can be accomplished.

[rollin_dubs187]

Just so there isnt any confusion. I think the key word is "fully"

[leroiosoleil83]

Wow... you guys are a bit silly. I say this as a new fan of the site. Seriously why do you keep on like this? Making the same point over and over again? Are you incoherent to the principles of boredom? Really... this is just ridiculous. The same conversation, under different threads of the same forum.. over, and over, and over... guys... WTF? As a new member - THIS IS SO BORING! IS THIS ALL THIS FORUM HAS TO OFFER? ugh... I'm new here, and I'm already bored. And really, so much for "forum" at all... it's pretty much 3 or 4 members offering their same opinions over and over again. What kind of forum is that? Haha... I wish people could spend their time more efficiently. But hey, addicts are addicts, right? Hmm. I'm still enjoying the site. Even if the forum is an utter humiliation of human interaction.

[matoumbomatoumbo]

Giorgio.
I don' t like kream, dildo, gay,lesbian, rape scene and also spit. But I realy like rough, intense, hardcore dap, dp,anal, facefuck and deepthroat. I only like two giorgio's scenes (the buster black and adriana, the buster black and Allen benz) In those scene i saw what was the true potentiel of giorgio's studio. The cameraman, the facefuck, deepthroat, fuck position, and anal in those scene are realy Good. This studio can become one of the Best porn studio!!! But you have to improve cup a few things:
Dap/dp: there is too many People in your Dap and dp. And they all have a litle dick so the scene are boring. What we want to see is fierce performers with big Dick( at least dick like ed junior)destroying beautiful girls throat and ass.

Black buster: Chapman is too old to keep up a scene with young girls, he always seems to have an heart atack. He needs to much rest it's normal the Guy is old. If you want to improve your buster black scene you have to put younger, Black, fierce performers with big dick instead of chapman. You car put Charlie macc, Rico strong, rob piper, flash Brown or mandingo. All of them are True fierce and hardcore performers. And if they dont want you can , hire other Skiled, Black performers with big dick.
Women: Girls: even if some are cute most of theme looks like they are seek. Their body aspect isn't attractive. We want to see girls like remy lacroix, jada Stevens, mandy muse, anikka albrite. we dont nececerly need those actress to Come cause a lot of those porn strar are Just hot but has no porn skils. But we want young, flexible, beautiful,skiled( as skiled as arwen golden or lara onyx), girls with a stuning body aspect.

Film quality: more the film quality is higher more the scene looks intense, looks impresive. You have a Good quality films but if you succed to have the same pixel as tushy, vixen, or blacked you Will be the first hardcore porn movie with such à quality and you Will bring to you a lot of fans!!! your scene Will become Incredible

[staygold]

Wow... you guys are a bit silly. I say this as a new fan of the site. Seriously why do you keep on like this? Making the same point over and over again? Are you incoherent to the principles of boredom

There are new fans here, and there are also longtimers. Please re-read this discussion from the beginning and you will find answers for your questions. You are not forced to read this, it's your choice. If people considered it boring, this discussion would be down on the bottom of the forum with 10 views and 0 replies.

Again, if you are interested, please re-read this discussion from the beginning again. Then visit other discussions and compare people here and there. Read and compare what people said/ suggested / asked and what they got (all LP studios).

Note that some members here have difficulties in understanding English, reading long discussions and replying or just don't care at all. If you read the forums (even this topic) you will understand this. This doesn't mean we should not enjoy equal proportions of niche and equal distribution of our fetishes and favourite things.

Again, if you don't care you are not forced to read this, it's your choice.

Literally, sometimes I doubt some members here are adults, no offence.

matoumbomatoumbo and other people who come up with content suggestions: this is not the right place. Just read the discussion from the begining and you will understand

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE this thread a mess. If you have a critic make it to the appropriate studio forum. There is no general "LP". Each studio does their own stuff.

[rollin_dubs187]

What exactly do you want from me, hyperlinks to every scene in which I've personally seen it. You're just making yourself look stupid now.

Just one example would be nice. This should not be to difficult considering balls deep DAP scenes are in abundance. Your attacks to my person are merely a lame attempt to avoid to give me a real answer. I am sure do to the difficulty of the task that I proposed.

Are you really going to claim that none of those women have achieved it? and that you've purchased the dap scenes of all of them despite the fact that you've claimed you hate it ?

I don't really have a choice considering the majority of new scenes containing DAP. First and for most I will download a scene based on the girl. The content comes second . This was never a problem when DAP was in 10%-15% of all scenes. I could ignore it at that point. However the recent drastic increase in this content cannot be ignored, resulting in less enjoyable content. I don't like being forced to download DAP scenes in order to watch the girls in scenes that would previously not contain it. All while having a paying more prices recieving reduction in content that I normally would enjoy. This is why I am complaining today. My support of the DAP niche is not by choice believe me.

Suggesting this content doesn't exist is one of the most asinine comments I've read on here.

I am fairly confident that no such content exists. You seem to be confused about the definition of balls deep. Please see the image that I have posted above. Question. You mentioned Arwen Gold previously. Could Arwen Gold take two or three cocks fully emerged inside of her asshole at the same time? Well of course she could. That girl is a miracle. God bless her and all women like her (I think that all we can agree). However that is not the point. It has nothing to do with the girl. Balls deep DAP is impossible from the male perspective. The problem is, according to The Pauli Exclusion Principle, only one set of testicles can occupy one area of space at any given time. That's just physics dude. I guess theoretically you could push one dick in as you pull the other dick out, like alternating pistons, with the dicks working against each other in a mechanical motion. However, then only one cock would be fully emerged in her orifice up to the testicles at one time, so technically that would not be considered balls deep DAP neither, so I digress.

Engage your brain, of course I have to pinpoint a position because it's not feasible in certain others.

This is kind of my point. But thanks for confirming.

You move the goalposts on every point you make, which if anything continuously proves you don't have one. Now we're talking about it being achievable in every position are we ?

Not really. My overall argument is that DAP is boring weak ass shit. This merely supports that argument. DAPs inability to maintain balls deep fucking in many positions, by definition, does not maintain hardcore anal fucking. Anything other than hardcore anal fucking (ie tipping) is boring weak ass shit.

[rollin_dubs187]

Giorgio.
I don' t like kream, dildo, gay,lesbian, rape scene and also spit. But I realy like rough, intense, hardcore dap

Hardcore DAP, like jumbo shrimp, is an oxymoron.

[Boshanks]

Just one example would be nice.

One of the hardest I've seen in recent memory,

http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31198/monsters_of_dap_bree_haze_4on1_balldeepdp_balldeepdap_triplepen_7dappose_multiplefacial_greatgapes_gio184

http://m.imgur.com/B9e5HRT.jpg

And before you say it, because I know you will, the only reason you can see any dick in the centre is because of the curvature of her arse, it's clear as day from the sides that she has them both fully inside of her and is resting on their balls.

the Pauli Exclusion Principle

A quantum mechanical principle of which you clearly don't understand being used incorrectly to support an argument for why balls deep dap is impossible... I'm officially done with this ridiculous back and forth.

[staygold]

Again I don't get why people are so negative and are so much against any changes. Why keep arguing about things like possible / impossible like little kids?

This is neither relevant nor important.

Strangely, any discussion of this kind (see "Tired of double anal") turns into this kind of rant

DAP/TAP is just not some people's taste, reasons can be different, just PLEASE accept it already. These people are neither a 'minority', nor they are 'pissing fans' or 'bullshit'. And they dont want to ban DAP/TAP completely. Plus you already said:

I'm not a huge fan of dap either, and certainly not tap

Anyway, again, nobody is saying 'remove dap/tap completely and ban it like piss', we are not talking about that AT ALL.

So why do you guys keep arguing?

Imagine you and your friends order a pizza. One of them grabs ketchup and pours half a bottle of it all over the entire dish. Would you like this? Would your friend like this if he can't stand ketchup at all? Tbh the same goes for all this 'DAP/TAP vs other niche stuff' rant aka 'my thing is better than yours, so you'are paying for it anyway'.

I don't get why some people refuse to see and understand obvious things.