Blatant Lies in Descriptions - how to stop?

[sjonesha]

Hi All

Been a member for years, from back in the original Sineplex days (happy days!!). Now we have have hundreds of low quality studios, who is actually approving these uploads and descriptions? We've always had tagging errors but I'm talking blatant lies in descriptions. Eg wrong models, listing acts that don't appear etc. Eg: Antoniosuleiman https://pornbox.com/application/studio/994. Claims Honour May in ass to mouth or various girls doing anal when clearly they aren't. This isn't a typo or tag error but obvious attempt to trick the buyer. That's just my latest example but I'm sure you all have other examples. How can this be stopped? We already have to filter out loads of shite now plus the scammers!! Thanks all.

[YumYum74]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.

They don't care.

[rroper472]

Yes happened to me with a Antonio Suleiman scene....no anal when it said anal....no longer purchase them
Legalporno/Analvids has seriously dropped in quality...too many crap dated scenes...too many samey models
mightbe time to quit this site.

[ryukenmaster666]

I don't count the number of times the "piss drinking" tag wasn't appropriate....It is just what it is, I guess

[ExtremePornFan]

Feed is 100% essential, but stuff still gets through, because of these deceptive practices. I won't even try the new studios. How can anyone that is in business that plans to stay in business think deceiving their customer base is good practice?

[zeusanalfreak299]

I check new scenes on pirate sites because the feed is very qualitative there, no gay, trans content and no amateur bullshit. I can see all AV scenes but also other premium site content. It's very user-friendly.

I don't give a shit anymore. It's enough. If a scene is great and if I want more of the girl or the style, I go on AV and buy it. But I try to avoid the store completely. The delay is 1 day. I can live with that. If the prices will increase more, I will stop buying. Just use the forum. I really would spend more time in the store. But it is getting worse and worse. I don't want to hide everyday dozens of scenes and shitty studios.

[zeusanalfreak299]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.

They don't care.

+1

It seems that they are sitting on their money and think exactly this.

[avanfurwet]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.

They don't care.

+1

It seems that they are sitting on their money and think exactly this.

Maybe they are sitting counting their money.

Or maybe they are sitting in the middle of a big mess which they have lost control over.

It's becoming like Xvideos but without the advertising revenue.

I'm not sure how they can adequately police the model names, descriptions and tags being added by content sellers trying to gain clicks for their wares, or the copyright ownership of content being sold here.

Can they even sell enough from the hundreds of new smaller content providers (no trailers, crazy prices) to pay the bills for hosting and site infrastructure?

I don't know.

At least a few established studios still make content that I enjoy enough to buy it. And I just don't look at any of the rest. Life is too short.

[chemonro15]

THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE CUSTOMER AND HAVEN'T FOR YEARS AT THIS POINT


FUCK THIS WHOLE SITE DONT SPEND ANOTHER DOLLAR

JOIN ME AND PIRATE EVERYTHUNG YOU WANT

5-7GB FILES FOR 1080P VIDEOS EASY AS PIE


WILL NEVER GIVE THIS JOKE OF A COMPANY ANOTHER CENT

[ExtremePornFan]

I have always advocated purchasing porn because I want them to keep making it. Almost every time I join a website it is for a year subscription. 90% of them have some fine print or nothing you can find at all that charges my card for a membership to a site I have never even seen. Sometimes they will refund you but they usually try to make it a pain in the ass. Other times I have to issue a charge back on my card. Now most sites limit your bandwidth or number of downloads. Like you said, every piece of porn on the internet is available free the next day. It is hard to treat a company with decency and respect when they are more than willing to shit all over you.


I don't know what their numbers look like, but it already looks like the main studios here are not doing that well. Judging by the number of releases and BTS compilations etc being released. We have already lost a few decent studios. Porn is already being taken over by crappy amateur and single model sites. I will keep buying from the main studios for now. Who knows how much longer we will have even half decent pro made porn.

[ExtremePornFan]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.

They don't care.

+1

It seems that they are sitting on their money and think exactly this.

Maybe they are sitting counting their money.

Or maybe they are sitting in the middle of a big mess which they have lost control over.

It's becoming like Xvideos but without the advertising revenue.

I'm not sure how they can adequately police the model names, descriptions and tags being added by content sellers trying to gain clicks for their wares, or the copyright ownership of content being sold here.

Can they even sell enough from the hundreds of new smaller content providers (no trailers, crazy prices) to pay the bills for hosting and site infrastructure?

I don't know.

At least a few established studios still make content that I enjoy enough to buy it. And I just don't look at any of the rest. Life is too short.

Think you hit the nail on the head there.

[YuriyProneBone]

The real question is how they figure out to make a studio pop up because I really doubt there is an application process that involves human communication. By the way it looks, it seems there is a page somewhere where you can automatically sign up confirm your information and proceed. This is way too random to think someone is meticulously checking these.

[drevokocur66]

Cancelled subscription , and stopped spending tix.

[dap-addict]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.
They don't care.

I'd say at this point you are probably right, sadly.

But my problem is I still care for good porn. So what do I do:
There is 15-20 pretty established studios I can trust with descriptions and model ID by 95%.
The rest I absolutely cant trust and I just ignore them.

I usually buy my scenes using the sex act tags. If its those 15-20 studios I know and trust no problem and easy shopping for me - provided the price is still fair. But IF I spot a alleged DAP by the likes of Suleiman or an actress website and I am really interested in it, I very very carefully check trailer and screenshots and only than in 50% of cases I risk buying such a scene.


I'd expect pornbox to degenerate further. I also started downloading most newly bought scenes again and will do so now with my vast backlog I counted on streaming so far. But the mess points me to be a bit more cautious...

This all said pornbox still present the best porn I can get and even if this shop turns more and more into an utter mess, it's the only one I wanna visit. Sad but true!

Really good in comparison seem the days when it wasnt clear when next Sineplex scene will eventually drop and whether it will be 1 or 20 scenes. But at least there were not 222 more complete crap studios also releasing their so called porn on pornbox.

[magizi87]

I was going into full rant mode because of DAP-Addict's response.

But while fact checking myself realized XXX hasn't posted anything since October last year.

[greenfunk727]

No sign of XXX
GIO rarely posts
Gonzo a shadow of it's former self
Lame amateur content is 95% of scenes
Forum has gone downhill
ticket prices 3 times higher than a few years ago
reduction in amount of new models shooting for GIO/Gonzo
Model section in forum completely spammed by pornbox bot


Dark times porn fans

I was going into full rant mode because of DAP-Addict's response.

But while fact checking myself realized XXX hasn't posted anything since October last year.

[JayJams]

Cancelled subscription , and stopped spending tix.

Did the same about a month ago. More should do the same.

[avanfurwet]

On reflection, I think Pornbox have adopted a comparable business model to Xvideos and to social media companies. The bulk handling of content is "self-service" by content sellers and customers using automated systems. Pornbox stay "hands-off" and just manage the infrastructure and collect the money.

Darwinian selection will eventually winnow out the unpopular content which simply won't sell enough to encourage those content sellers to continue.

I think probably the tags are entered by content sellers when they upload their wares, and the deluge of content being uploaded for sale every day suggests that Pornbox personnel could not moderate or police the tags if they tried.

Some sellers may be lazy and omit tags, or actively mislabel their content attempting to game the system and gain more views.

So, it's hard for a customer to filter out the stuff you don't want and focus only on what you do want to see.

The only solution I've found as a consumer is to use the "Feed" tab to "follow" the few studios who make content that I want to check out. That way everything else is automatically hidden, regardless of tags. Some people have posted that the "Feed" doesn't work for them, but luckily it still works for me.

[YuriyProneBone]

That's how it looks to me, I wanted to upload mine, but they know something I don't. That automated self service for sellers is probably somewhere. I just haven't figure it out.

[asaleh001806]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.

They don't care.

Yep, they don’t care. It would take resources to verify the scenes match up to the description.

[avanfurwet]

That's how it looks to me, I wanted to upload mine, but they know something I don't. That automated self service for sellers is probably somewhere. I just haven't figure it out.

Don't you just upload you content to sheer.com? Are there complications?

[dap-addict]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.
They don't care.

Yep, they don’t care. It would take resources to verify the scenes match up to the description.

Yep, and why invest money as long as you can earn enough with that self service model taken from XYVideos?
This means as a user you also have to apply self-service modes. It's a bit of a jungle, but somehow it still works. Because if we stop to support the studios which still use true descriptions rather and rather tag scenes right, we'll end up with nothing professionally produced to watch again.

[YuriyProneBone]

That's how it looks to me, I wanted to upload mine, but they know something I don't. That automated self service for sellers is probably somewhere. I just haven't figure it out.

Don't you just upload you content to sheer.com? Are there complications?

I'm going to check that out. Thanks for the tip. Maybe that's the way.

[beklof]

There are many ways to fool people in porn industry. One of the "smartest" is when you are on the page where you make the payment, there is another site marked with the smallest possible line and the order box is already ticked and you don't notice anything. I've gone this cheap a few times, but luckily even a fool learns. Another way for studios to cheat is that VAT is visible only in the terms of use but not on the page where you make the payment. Who the fuck can wade through the terms of use every time? Oh yes, of course the studio knows this fact!

And then phenomena that I don't get tired of criticizing (regarding big studios as well), i.e. DAP is marked but only the other cock moves. This is cheating no matter how hard you try to deny it! If you claim the video contains DAP, so fuck be honest, respect the viewer and then do it too!
And if you claim that the video has piss drinking scenes, don't cheat the viewer with scenes where the girl practically doesn't drink a drop of piss! And still you see this cheating over and over again!

And what should we think about cum that is not real cum? This is also cheating you can see time after time and the studios/producers don't seem to be ashamed of their lying at all.

[dap-addict]

And then phenomena that I don't get tired of criticizing (regarding big studios as well), i.e. DAP is marked but only the other cock moves. This is cheating...

I sure agree with the DAP trick cheating thing!
However instead of denouncing all that wrong advertising for psycho health I prefer to point out the good examples.
The more as at one stage at least even if dicks dont fuck her ass both there are still 2 dicks inside there. Little I know, sure not DAP-ing, but DAP it still is. Not a good DAP, though, so much is clear.


And with VAT pornbox finally got transparent and pretty clear at least when paying/re-charging tickets. It took them some time, though.

[parasitius]

Just came here to say - I agree and am disgusted with wrongly labeled videos probably done by some $.60/hr Amazon turk hired out of India

Do not call it "Latina" when it is an Asian ladyboy, etc. and 100 other absolute nonsense lies.

Perhaps there can be a feedback button on each video "report error with content", then a radio button "video title is deceptive". If 5 people report a given video, it is suspended from the site for 10 days and the owner is allowed to give it a new title. Make it not worth their while to be assholes to PAYING CUSTOMERS like us.

[number1s]

And what should we think about cum that is not real cum? This is also cheating you can see time after time and the studios/producers don't seem to be ashamed of their lying at all.

Far from it. Instead you will receive a lecture that as “porn is not reality” they can fake whatever they like. And you will be accused of misogyny if you complain about the fakery. Do not trust the descriptions, look carefully at screenshots and trailers, boycott serial offenders.

[drevokocur66]

And what should we think about cum that is not real cum? This is also cheating you can see time after time and the studios/producers don't seem to be ashamed of their lying at all.

Far from it. Instead you will receive a lecture that as “porn is not reality” they can fake whatever they like. And you will be accused of misogyny if you complain about the fakery. Do not trust the descriptions, look carefully at screenshots and trailers, boycott serial offenders.

+1

[drevokocur66]

There are many ways to fool people in porn industry. One of the "smartest" is when you are on the page where you make the payment, there is another site marked with the smallest possible line and the order box is already ticked and you don't notice anything. I've gone this cheap a few times, but luckily even a fool learns. Another way for studios to cheat is that VAT is visible only in the terms of use but not on the page where you make the payment. Who the fuck can wade through the terms of use every time? Oh yes, of course the studio knows this fact!

And then phenomena that I don't get tired of criticizing (regarding big studios as well), i.e. DAP is marked but only the other cock moves. This is cheating no matter how hard you try to deny it! If you claim the video contains DAP, so fuck be honest, respect the viewer and then do it too!
And if you claim that the video has piss drinking scenes, don't cheat the viewer with scenes where the girl practically doesn't drink a drop of piss! And still you see this cheating over and over again!

And what should we think about cum that is not real cum? This is also cheating you can see time after time and the studios/producers don't seem to be ashamed of their lying at all.

I just remembershiped, is there one LP still uses? If so, I did not notice it. If they do, which is it? So I can cancel.

[Seraph0257]

I hear what you're saying, but there is just one problem.
They don't care.

I also started downloading most newly bought scenes again and will do so now with my vast backlog I counted on streaming so far.

You mean you don't have multiple hard drives full of Porn from this site? I have all 4,358 videos downloaded.