I remember when AGO didn't do this domination shit

[ExtremePornFan]

Btw,

There is nothing really rough in it. It is like they have kid gloves on with her.

It's not about rough, it's about the theme set in this film!
We had many rough scenes also before AGO, but so far we didnt get any fake-rape scenes except the set-ups - by Anna de Ville for GIO for instance - referred to above, when it is very clear within the first few minutes that the girl is actually just waiting to get fucked and she's enjoying it.
Here it was different with 46min of protest and no's how staged and absurd they might have been and only 2 min at beginning and start without those protests.

Sorry, but it does not seem like rape to me by any stretch of the imagination. The weak fake no add absolutely nothing to the scene, but I will sleep better at night knowing the anti-rough porn anti-misogynist vagina hate club was here to save her from the atrocities of pornography.

[TheVulture]

Yeah not for me. I've bought a small number of his scenes that were pretty good (a recent-ish Sasha Beart one in particular) but as someone who hates manhandle they're very easy to skip from the trailers and tbh I don't often even look at those now. His guys are all Giorgio's old duds. Neeo is unwatchable for me on several levels.

A perennial topic and a shame to see the usual reductionist "manhandle vs vanilla" rubbish from the supporters of rough porn but such is the lack of conviction in their own arguments I suppose. By all means favour rough porn but don't kid yourselves that non-rough porn is soft. In most cases, the sex action is harder as the guys aren't expending energy with their grappling, pulling, twisting etc. Look at Giorgio's recent Emily Pink scene and tell me that it would be "harder" if the guys manhandled her. Of course it wouldn't and Emily would almost certainly be left sexually unfulfilled. Instead she gets the pounding of her life.

I might as well mention in here that I dug out some of my old VHS porn from about 20 years ago (mostly Christoph Clark and Private) a few days ago and have been watching it a little. Not surprisingly the anal action isn't as good as AV/LP (although still pretty strong) but what did stand out was a complete absence of the "high hands" from the guys and not even a whiff of a face slap or a throat grab. In general, it was very nice to see a vibe from the guys of pure lust and enjoyment of the girls instead of any kind of anger or macho posturing. That has nothing to do with me being a "white knight" but simply of wanting to be aroused. The girls sizzle more as a result. I do very much miss the days when I could take it for granted that any porn I bought would be of that nature. Modern porn vs old porn is very much swings and roundabouts. Longer and harder anal action now but less lust, essentially. It would be amazing indeed if someone could bring those 2 aspects together.

[ExtremePornFan]

Yeah not for me. I've bought a small number of his scenes that were pretty good (a recent-ish Sasha Beart one in particular) but as someone who hates manhandle they're very easy to skip from the trailers and tbh I don't often even look at those now. His guys are all Giorgio's old duds. Neeo is unwatchable for me on several levels.

A perennial topic and a shame to see the usual reductionist "manhandle vs vanilla" rubbish from the supporters of rough porn but such is the lack of conviction in their own arguments I suppose. By all means favour rough porn but don't kid yourselves that non-rough porn is soft. In most cases, the sex action is harder as the guys aren't expending energy with their grappling, pulling, twisting etc. Look at Giorgio's recent Emily Pink scene and tell me that it would be "harder" if the guys manhandled her. Of course it wouldn't and Emily would almost certainly be left sexually unfulfilled. Instead she gets the pounding of her life.

I might as well mention in here that I dug out some of my old VHS porn from about 20 years ago (mostly Christoph Clark and Private) a few days ago and have been watching it a little. Not surprisingly the anal action isn't as good as AV/LP (although still pretty strong) but what did stand out was a complete absence of the "high hands" from the guys and not even a whiff of a face slap or a throat grab. In general, it was very nice to see a vibe from the guys of pure lust and enjoyment of the girls instead of any kind of anger or macho posturing. That has nothing to do with me being a "white knight" but simply of wanting to be aroused. The girls sizzle more as a result. I do very much miss the days when I could take it for granted that any porn I bought would be of that nature. Modern porn vs old porn is very much swings and roundabouts. Longer and harder anal action now but less lust, essentially. It would be amazing indeed if someone could bring those 2 aspects together.

So you don't like rough male dom porn and you point out rough male dom porn as an example of how porn should be?

Examples Emily crawls in submission.

Ass slapping



Grabbing her by the back neck

Emily's head is pushed down and ass slapped at the same time

Emily grabbed by the back of the head and neck.


I could easily pull 1000 more GIFS from this scene that are the exact "man handling" you are complaining about.

Just the the AGO scenes that are the subject of the OP this is all done with kid gloves. The only difference I see is that it is not listed as manhandle or Domination in the title.

[lp89]

Gotta admire the cognitive dissonance of people who have convinced themselves that stuffing 2 cocks inside a woman's asshole and then soaking her in piss is not "misogynistic acrobatics", it's just lust. But then slapping her face and grabbing her throat is a red line. In porn.

[bake0213]

Gotta admire the cognitive dissonance of people who have convinced themselves that stuffing 2 cocks inside a woman's asshole and then soaking her in piss is not "misogynistic acrobatics", it's just lust. But then slapping her face and grabbing her throat is a red line. In porn.

It's really incredible the bizarre reality that they've concocted for themselves. I'm guessing most are virgins but who knows. I still don't understand why they don't just block the studio instead of rambling on about how horrible it is.

[ExtremePornFan]

Some more nice manhandling from the Emily Pink Scene, the Vulture Mentioned. Funny that the biggest crusader for anti-rough porn is watching throat grabs, ass slapping and women's heads being forced down on cocks in his DAP piss gang bangs. Tell me more about the lack of conviction in my own arguments. Also, post some more of your favorite videos. I love your taste in rough manhandle porn. What Sasha Beart scene did you buy Vulture? Is it one of the ones where she begs guys to rape her and rough her up? Do you jerk off about it while you make 100's of post on your anti-rough porn crusade?

[dap-addict]

There's more snowflakes on this thread than at a Trump rally. If you don't like the studio, then block it and stop acting like crybabies.

Its not about snowflakes with most posts here, at least not mine for sure, but still about trying to explain to Angelo that real manhandle and real domination atom isn't created by fast orifice changes and that fast tempo cant replace real acting according to an old porn genre.
Its nothing new in terms of content he invented, well apart from fast TVP maybe.

I think the majority of customers disagree with your assessment (....)
1. NRX with 35 of the top 100 scenes
2. AGO - 20
3. Porn World - 14
4. GG (I grouped all his studios into one total) - 11
5. Natasha Teen - 8

So even if my filters mess up the ranking somewhat, I think it is clear that the paying customers like what AGO has to offer despite many complaints from the same few people.

I checked your numbers and they are very close to mine.
What I see from sales, also when giving more weight to TOP20 sales and less to lower than TOP50 is the dominance of NRX.
Later AGO for sure sells much better than GIO.
NTP has a few top sales and thus does much better than their rival studio LTP.
gonzo and Russian EK can still sell a few TOP100 scenes, but both do miserable.

Anyway, looking at sales what we see is that AGO clearly sells.
Given AGOs much cheaper studio with sure less employees, if any at all, and much lover base costs than the GIO imperium this fact must worry GIO.

Maybe indeed it's lost time to try to explain to AGO what manhandle would consist of. He just doenst need to listen to me and other ppl trying to make porn better. At the same time all studios for sure have to ask themselves why NRX is doing so much better than they are, also AGO has to do this, because overall he doenst perform brilliant as well.

And here we have it: Its rookies, young new girls and rough sex. Not rough sex alone.

[JBird]

Anyway, looking at sales what we see is that AGO clearly sells.

Correct, but nowadays particular types of scene appear to sell a fair bit better than others. The most reliable check is not via the monthly list provided by PornBox but via the list of top sellers since the start of operations on the studio's page.

Among scenes with wet versions, 9 AGO releases from 2023 are in their top 70 sellers out of 188, 8 of them solos. There is no sign that domination scenes are markedly popular, since the first with that word in the title is in 59th place. In comparison, 11 of this year’s releases are in the bottom 70 sellers for AGO. Only 3 of these are solos, among them the extreme video with Musa Martina, which is 165th. Maybe the fact that duos cost about $18 a shot has something to do with this seeming imbalance.

[visigoth2020260]

I told you guys that AGS is love by many, and all male lovers are at his place and supporting him.

His forum is the most active forum at Av.

It has nothing to do with his camera skills, people are in love with the guy.
That is good as he makes money.
It is bad as he will never become a great producer.

[dap-addict]

Anyway, looking at sales what we see is that AGO clearly sells.

Correct, but nowadays particular types of scene appear to sell a fair bit better than others. The most reliable check is not via the monthly list provided by PornBox but via the list of top sellers since the start of operations on the studio's page.

Good point!
Yep, looks like domination in title doenst sell really, but displayed meanness to girls does. This Nela Decker scene for instance reached first 10% of sales: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/164884

Best however sells the pretty normal NHB pussy porn backlash scenes including lots of DVP and TVP with fast positions and orifice changes. For sure girls are not shown with much individuality and women enjoying sex, but women being used by a bunch of guys for their own needs. It's a bit NRX with a more vile touch.

[hjohjole]

I know you guys don't like pussy. Instead of watching straight or bi porn and complaining about it all the time, why don't you just watch gay porn. It is 2023 come out already.

How fragile is your heterosexual identity if you have to force yourself to watch boring fucking pussy porn just to convince yourself that you are straight? How fucking pathetic..

Oh no! I have been watching anal penetration for 10 whole seconds now, what if i turn in to a homosexual! I need to see some romantic 100% straight pussy penetration right now!!
And luckily for all you insecure fragile male egos out there we have Angelo Godshack, captain pussy himself, to deliver just that. Dumb fucking idiot porn with pussy penetration every 10 seconds. Completely ruining the anal fetish.

[dap-addict]

+ 1
LOL!
That was to the point, hojohjole!

[2017sucks]

I know you guys don't like pussy. Instead of watching straight or bi porn and complaining about it all the time, why don't you just watch gay porn. It is 2023 come out already.

How fragile is your heterosexual identity if you have to force yourself to watch boring fucking pussy porn just to convince yourself that you are straight? How fucking pathetic..

Oh no! I have been watching anal penetration for 10 whole seconds now, what if i turn in to a homosexual! I need to see some romantic 100% straight pussy penetration right now!!
And luckily for all you insecure fragile male egos out there we have Angelo Godshack, captain pussy himself, to deliver just that. Dumb fucking idiot porn with pussy penetration every 10 seconds. Completely ruining the anal fetish.

Exactly, bravo! Its him actually, who is making "clones" of our friend DAP addict here, because of his awful style of directing. Wait, no, even in rare 0% scenes, too much of stops and Gapes showing, looks like his actors really overused, ready for retirement long time ago, cant fuck continously more than 30 seconds.

[2017sucks]

0% Pussy, damn no edit

[ExtremePornFan]

I know you guys don't like pussy. Instead of watching straight or bi porn and complaining about it all the time, why don't you just watch gay porn. It is 2023 come out already.

How fragile is your heterosexual identity if you have to force yourself to watch boring fucking pussy porn just to convince yourself that you are straight? How fucking pathetic..

Oh no! I have been watching anal penetration for 10 whole seconds now, what if i turn in to a homosexual! I need to see some romantic 100% straight pussy penetration right now!!
And luckily for all you insecure fragile male egos out there we have Angelo Godshack, captain pussy himself, to deliver just that. Dumb fucking idiot porn with pussy penetration every 10 seconds. Completely ruining the anal fetish.

I never said I was heterosexual or only watched pussy porn. I am not straight if you are watching the same anal cock rubbing gangbangs I am you are not either. I don't care about fitting in some stereotype. Your comment about guys who like pussy being pussys is dumb. You guys that make 100's of posts about needing more cock in your porn and only wanting to see anal and cock rubbing, then make all kinds of homophobic comments. If you guys want to hate vaginas, go for it. You don't need to run a shit smear campaign against a studio because they mix pussy with their anal gangbags.

[ExtremePornFan]

I think some examples of the violent, vial, misogynistic, too rough, manhandling, romantic pussy only porn are in order.
WARNING FOR STRAIGHT VERY SECURE IN THEIR MASCULINITY VIEWERS PUSSY MAY BE FUCKED IN SOME OF THE GIFS

[ExtremePornFan]

[dap-addict]

You deliberately choose the least NHB pussy porn backlash gifs! LOL!

What are you trying to proof?
Because AGO doenst have so little pussy fucking as you show in your gifs. Do you wanna shy away pussy porn lovers from AGO, do you wanna decrease the profits of your new porn god?

[ExtremePornFan]

You deliberately choose the least NHB pussy porn backlash gifs! LOL!

What are you trying to proof?
Because AGO doenst have so little pussy fucking as you show in your gifs. Do you wanna shy away pussy porn lovers from AGO, do you wanna decrease the profits of your new porn god?

I just pulled some GIFS from a couple of his scenes as I watched them.I only have like 100 AGO scenes. It is like 2% of my porn box.I never said I was a huge pussy porn fan. If you have seen the 1000's of GIFS I have posted over the years, you can easily see what I watch. I like how he dresses the girls. His camera work is good. I also like all the ATM and ATOGM. I do not hate pussy. This post was about Misogynistic acrobats if you remember. I still don't see that it is any more rough than any of the other double anal piss porn gangbangs on LP.girls.


Your arguments are that you hate rough porn and want to see girls enjoy themselves, but you also hate vaginas and don't ever want them used. Where is the logic?


I know I have really struck a nerve with some of you by saying DAP 10 on one gangbangs are not straight. I don't go around judging people. I don't care how you want to view your sexuality or what kind of porn you like.


I don't think running a smear campaign against one of the better studios here because you hate pussy is OK. I doubt you guys will be happy until you have shit mouthed every decent studio here out of business and all we are left with is the ten thousand new amateur studios.

[YuriyProneBone]

Lately since I started watching porn with my current partner some pussy fucking is important in porn though. Particularly because I like to watch porn before having sex, and my partner likes to see some pussy to get turn on. She doesn't really like the only anal scenes, so i found that if I put some DP stuff it is a good compromise to put her on the mood as well.

Don't get me wrong, she likes to see the deep anal penetrations too, she particularly enjoys seeing girls struggling for a long time, the more the girl is struggling the more she likes the scene, so anal fucking gives a lot of that, but some pussy fucking also helps to the overall mood, and makes it less boring for her.

Personally I am fine with just straight up anal too, but because nowadays I often enjoy watching stuff with her, the DP stuff really comes in handy.

[Godfried]

I know you guys don't like pussy. Instead of watching straight or bi porn and complaining about it all the time, why don't you just watch gay porn. It is 2023 come out already.

How fragile is your heterosexual identity if you have to force yourself to watch boring fucking pussy porn just to convince yourself that you are straight? How fucking pathetic..

Oh no! I have been watching anal penetration for 10 whole seconds now, what if i turn in to a homosexual! I need to see some romantic 100% straight pussy penetration right now!!
And luckily for all you insecure fragile male egos out there we have Angelo Godshack, captain pussy himself, to deliver just that. Dumb fucking idiot porn with pussy penetration every 10 seconds. Completely ruining the anal fetish.

I never said I was heterosexual or only watched pussy porn. I am not straight if you are watching the same anal cock rubbing gangbangs I am you are not either. I don't care about fitting in some stereotype. Your comment about guys who like pussy being pussys is dumb. You guys that make 100's of posts about needing more cock in your porn and only wanting to see anal and cock rubbing, then make all kinds of homophobic comments. If you guys want to hate vaginas, go for it. You don't need to run a shit smear campaign against a studio because they mix pussy with their anal gangbags.

I'm sorry, you're a complete fucking moron who's all over the place in his convictions, and most of all you displayed here are just dumbfounded, unfounded moronic personal dismorphia bullshit you're trying to project. So you're telling me i'm not straight because i like to watch anal porn, even though i never once in my entire life had any lust or attraction to anything other than cisgendered females in my entire life? Porn is not real life idiot, no matter how many hours you spent in this forum essaying your stupid stances in life. If you're not a straight male and like guys just say it and don't drag anyone else to your closet wars. I swear i know 98% of avid porn consumers are basement dwelling pariahs, but i still fall the trap on occasion. My lord go outside one of these days.

[ExtremePornFan]

I'm sorry, you're a complete fucking moron who's all over the place in his convictions, and most of all you displayed here are just dumbfounded, unfounded moronic personal dismorphia bullshit you're trying to project. So you're telling me i'm not straight because i like to watch anal porn, even though i never once in my entire life had any lust or attraction to anything other than cisgendered females in my entire life? Porn is not real life idiot, no matter how many hours you spent in this forum essaying your stupid stances in life. If you're not a straight male and like guys just say it and don't drag anyone else to your closet wars. I swear i know 98% of avid porn consumers are basement dwelling pariahs, but i still fall the trap on occasion. My lord go outside one of these days.

I was wrong to make the comment about your sexuality. However you want to perceive yourself is your business.. I apologize. I know it is a very sensitive subject for you guys. But my convictions have remained the same throughout. I like rough porn as long as it is consensual. I like pussy too.

[ExtremePornFan]

Here a GIF that is exactly what this post is complaining about. I manhandle throat grab. Yet Emily has a big smile on her face. I still fail to see the issue.

[Iddaoeeok]

Here a GIF that is exactly what this post is complaining about. I manhandle throat grab. Yet Emily has a big smile on her face. I still fail to see the issue.

He's holds her throat for a few seconds, it's hardly manhandling, he's not choking her... plus he follows it up immediately my rather tenderly touching her cheek. That is not an example of what people are objecting to on this thread.

[ExtremePornFan]

Here a GIF that is exactly what this post is complaining about. I manhandle throat grab. Yet Emily has a big smile on her face. I still fail to see the issue.

He's holds her throat for a few seconds, it's hardly manhandling, he's not choking her... plus he follows it up immediately my rather tenderly touching her cheek. That is not an example of what people are objecting to on this thread.

Don't tell me Show me. I don't see any thing more than roll play. It is all done very light. The ass slaps don't even leave a pink mark. I don't have all his videos so maybe I have missed what you are talking about.

[ExtremePornFan]

He's holds her throat for a few seconds, it's hardly manhandling, he's not choking her... plus he follows it up immediately my rather tenderly touching her cheek. That is not an example of what people are objecting to on this thread.

My point exactly. Thank You!

[TheVulture]

Some more nice manhandling from the Emily Pink Scene, the Vulture Mentioned. Funny that the biggest crusader for anti-rough porn is watching throat grabs, ass slapping and women's heads being forced down on cocks in his DAP piss gang bangs. Tell me more about the lack of conviction in my own arguments.

Fair point but it's a very long scene and these things are relative. I don't like those throat grabs but they aren't typical of the scene in general. 1 of them is by Marco Nero, who does it by default. I basically ignore his sections.

I have no issue whatsoever with ass slapping.

I've watched the scene a couple of times and am happy with it. I set quite a high bar for this as well. It isn't a manhandle scene as such because there is very little manhandle. You've only highlighted 2 very brief examples.

As to the poster who says about the AGO scene: "Emily smiles so what's the problem?" I've already said - it turns me off regardless of whether the girl likes it or not. That is all. I'm struggling to see why this is difficult. If you want to categorise all of those like me who don't like rough porn as "white knights" because it's more comfortable for you or whatever then fine but you're not listening to a word I'm saying. I'm turned on by strong, assertive women and hard sex that is performed by 2 (or more) equals in every sense of the word. I find male domination utterly boring and unsexy. I could do it, as could anyone. There is absolutely no fantasy for me there. We can get into a deep discussion about the psychology of that if you like but all I would really say with certainty about it is that personally I'm pleased that I'm on my line of the divide. Those on the other side - knock yourselves out but stop being so thin-skinned about any (perfectly valid) criticism of the style of porn you favour.

What Sasha Beart scene did you buy Vulture? Is it one of the ones where she begs guys to rape her and rough her up? Do you jerk off about it while you make 100's of post on your anti-rough porn crusade?

That is a pathetic comment that really sums up what I'm getting at here.

[TheVulture]

Here a GIF that is exactly what this post is complaining about. I manhandle throat grab. Yet Emily has a big smile on her face. I still fail to see the issue.

It's boring. Dozer does that all the time. He is boring. It's what I call "girl dousing" because it throws cold water over any heat the girl may be giving off. It doesn't turn me on so I won't buy it.

Is that still "white knight crusading" or whatever you want to call it?

[asaleh001806]

Anal on itself is domination. Women don't have a clit there. It represents women being vulnerable and given themselves in completely for the men to take.

So it is no surprising this why many costumers like myself enjoy extensions of that. For example prone doggy as opposed of cowgirl.

That's not saying that women can't enjoy anal, but one of the main reasons they do is because it pleases the men, either having it or watching it, and many women are biologically wired to love feeling dominated by masculinity.

The same concept goes with pissing. The whole idea of pissing on a girl is submission, you cannot make an argument around it. Which is why this is also popular in the site, and it was a matter of time before it became s staple.

Evolutionary speaking in terms of sex it is natural for men to enjoy submitting a girl and for women to feel dominated by men, it's a pleasure thing.


I agree100%.
Males have dicks and penetrate the women. Women receive the penetration, they take the cock who breaks their hymen and pokes their insides. It is just basic anatomy too, and the body always ties with the mind.

That's not to say deviations aren't acceptable. Some people have deviations and love men to be dominated or pissed on, etc.. And that's ok too, there is nothing wrong with that, but let's not kid ourselves, it is not going to be as popular as natural tendencies.

To me as long as women get fucked in the ass and pissed on the face I'm usually happy. And if they get fucked on the floor face down even better.

[ExtremePornFan]

Some more nice manhandling from the Emily Pink Scene, the Vulture Mentioned. Funny that the biggest crusader for anti-rough porn is watching throat grabs, ass slapping and women's heads being forced down on cocks in his DAP piss gang bangs. Tell me more about the lack of conviction in my own arguments.

Fair point but it's a very long scene and these things are relative. I don't like those throat grabs but they aren't typical of the scene in general. 1 of them is by Marco Nero, who does it by default. I basically ignore his sections.

I have no issue whatsoever with ass slapping.

I've watched the scene a couple of times and am happy with it. I set quite a high bar for this as well. It isn't a manhandle scene as such because there is very little manhandle. You've only highlighted 2 very brief examples.

As to the poster who says about the AGO scene: "Emily smiles so what's the problem?" I've already said - it turns me off regardless of whether the girl likes it or not. That is all. I'm struggling to see why this is difficult. If you want to categorise all of those like me who don't like rough porn as "white knights" because it's more comfortable for you or whatever then fine but you're not listening to a word I'm saying. I'm turned on by strong, assertive women and hard sex that is performed by 2 (or more) equals in every sense of the word. I find male domination utterly boring and unsexy. I could do it, as could anyone. There is absolutely no fantasy for me there. We can get into a deep discussion about the psychology of that if you like but all I would really say with certainty about it is that personally I'm pleased that I'm on my line of the divide. Those on the other side - knock yourselves out but stop being so thin-skinned about any (perfectly valid) criticism of the style of porn you favour.

What Sasha Beart scene did you buy Vulture? Is it one of the ones where she begs guys to rape her and rough her up? Do you jerk off about it while you make 100's of post on your anti-rough porn crusade?

That is a pathetic comment that really sums up what I'm getting at here.

There is little point in debating someone else's perception of the same act. "I don't like manhandling. It is not manhandling if it is in a scene I like."


You will never convince me that a 9 on 1 gangbang is not male dom porn. I like the Emily Pink gangband. I like the Emily and Polly gangbang. I think they are both hot. I don't think any of the models were injured or traumatized in the scene.


As far as I can see, AGO is making the same type of scene the whole time they have been around. I already said what I thought about the original post. Then shortly after, some new fake screen name pops up with "AGO is the new Pierre Woodman" I don't really see them as separate, but some kind of effort to defile the reputation of AGO. No, I don't think it is some kind of big conspiracy, but as soon as one person shit mouths him every one else is real quick to jump in and get their piece. I don't think I have thin skin about people who has a difference of opinion than me. I don't like people with fake names anonymously defaming a person or company. I think it is a cheap, shitty thing to do. I have let it irritate me and reduce myself by making some vulgar comments. I should have conducted myself better.


I do think that Sasha Beart is an odd choice of model for someone that does not like manhandling, even if a girl likes it. But yes, my comment was pathetic and vulgar. I should have worded it differently. I don't care what you like to watch or how you like to perceive it. Go for it have fun. I don't see what some many people have to bad mouth a studio if they don't like the scene. Don't like it, don't buy it.

[feltrough]

New example of this behavior is new Kitty Doll88 scene ...during fisting she looks in great discomfort if not pain

[YuriyProneBone]

New example of this behavior is new Kitty Doll88 scene ...during fisting she looks in great discomfort if not pain

I love the faces she makes, she was always awesome like that since her NRX days, I hope she doesn't get wrinkles though, you can still convey pain without wrinkling the face, there are ways.

[Sweep11]

Got through a whole bag of popcorn reading this thread

A lot of insults and over thinking going on.

Pesonnally, I really like AGO style, lighting, positioning, model selection, clothing choices, pace and energy.
I like all holes to be used. Yep, even pussy.
I could use less slapping and choking maybe.
Certainly when it means the girls ass stays bright pink. But that’s because I have a thing about beautiful skin. (Is that a thing? I think it is…)

We’re never gonna agree where the line is.
It’s different for everyone and next to impossible to define objectively.
Buy whatever turns you on and enjoy.
Peace to all perverts

[Jaxkbnm]

Some more nice manhandling from the Emily Pink Scene, the Vulture Mentioned. Funny that the biggest crusader for anti-rough porn is watching throat grabs, ass slapping and women's heads being forced down on cocks in his DAP piss gang bangs. Tell me more about the lack of conviction in my own arguments.

Fair point but it's a very long scene and these things are relative. I don't like those throat grabs but they aren't typical of the scene in general. 1 of them is by Marco Nero, who does it by default. I basically ignore his sections.

I have no issue whatsoever with ass slapping.

I've watched the scene a couple of times and am happy with it. I set quite a high bar for this as well. It isn't a manhandle scene as such because there is very little manhandle. You've only highlighted 2 very brief examples.

As to the poster who says about the AGO scene: "Emily smiles so what's the problem?" I've already said - it turns me off regardless of whether the girl likes it or not. That is all. I'm struggling to see why this is difficult. If you want to categorise all of those like me who don't like rough porn as "white knights" because it's more comfortable for you or whatever then fine but you're not listening to a word I'm saying. I'm turned on by strong, assertive women and hard sex that is performed by 2 (or more) equals in every sense of the word. I find male domination utterly boring and unsexy. I could do it, as could anyone. There is absolutely no fantasy for me there. We can get into a deep discussion about the psychology of that if you like but all I would really say with certainty about it is that personally I'm pleased that I'm on my line of the divide. Those on the other side - knock yourselves out but stop being so thin-skinned about any (perfectly valid) criticism of the style of porn you favour.

What Sasha Beart scene did you buy Vulture? Is it one of the ones where she begs guys to rape her and rough her up? Do you jerk off about it while you make 100's of post on your anti-rough porn crusade?

That is a pathetic comment that really sums up what I'm getting at here.

There is little point in debating someone else's perception of the same act. "I don't like manhandling. It is not manhandling if it is in a scene I like."


You will never convince me that a 9 on 1 gangbang is not male dom porn. I like the Emily Pink gangband. I like the Emily and Polly gangbang. I think they are both hot. I don't think any of the models were injured or traumatized in the scene.


As far as I can see, AGO is making the same type of scene the whole time they have been around. I already said what I thought about the original post. Then shortly after, some new fake screen name pops up with "AGO is the new Pierre Woodman" I don't really see them as separate, but some kind of effort to defile the reputation of AGO. No, I don't think it is some kind of big conspiracy, but as soon as one person shit mouths him every one else is real quick to jump in and get their piece. I don't think I have thin skin about people who has a difference of opinion than me. I don't like people with fake names anonymously defaming a person or company. I think it is a cheap, shitty thing to do. I have let it irritate me and reduce myself by making some vulgar comments. I should have conducted myself better.


I do think that Sasha Beart is an odd choice of model for someone that does not like manhandling, even if a girl likes it. But yes, my comment was pathetic and vulgar. I should have worded it differently. I don't care what you like to watch or how you like to perceive it. Go for it have fun. I don't see what some many people have to bad mouth a studio if they don't like the scene. Don't like it, don't buy it.

Theirs no fake names around here. No one is defaming you shitty studio fan boy. I dint see why you have to suck off only one studio but it’s your choice at the end of the day