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Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:33 am

Probably going to be a controversial statement for some, but i would just like to put my view across that there are too many DAP scenes being released at the moment.Just like when the site was releasing piss scenes everyday it is likely to be offputting for many great girls to appear here as there is a perception of this site being too extreme.Don't get me wrong i enjoy the odd DAP scene just as i did some of the piss scenes, but it is surely better to have these acts in moderation and to have more variety throughout the site, so as not to cater to groups with one or two particular fetishes.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby cyberhog59 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:11 pm

Get a life!

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby shark1 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:26 pm

Agree, when the piss scenes were starting to be released very often of course people complained. I love piss scenes but in order to give everyone variety all genres should be catered too during weekly updates. It has gotten that way for DAP, so much DAP, too much DAP and now TAP too. I often skip DAP scenes now unless there is a girl I really like, I would much rather see deep DP fucking than only the heads of guys cocks simultaneously go in the same hole. It's just about as boring to me as lez scenes. They will keep shooting DAP because it is very popular and that's fine, just like piss was, but DAP scenes are starting to overwhelm this site unfortunately.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:30 pm

Cynewulf30 wrote:Just like when the site was releasing piss scenes everyday it is likely to be offputting for many great girls to appear here as there is a perception of this site being too extreme.

That's a bold claim, considering the top models that currently perform here. Unless, of course, you are referring to softcore models ;)

Most of the comments I come across on Twitter are from women who are falling over themselves to be able to shoot with LegalPorno :D

And no one can blame LegalPorno for producing what sells, and being so good at what they do. After all, they are running a business :cool:

I'll leave you with a quote from our own, Giorgio Grandi:

http://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=68050#p68050

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Im not going to say the LP is the best european website, but its for sure the website with the best structure and the best management and the higher potential for the future.
I know that many other producer are checking LP daily for understand what girl does better, and then they book them for their own production, this tells you all about what LP is and what will became. This works for the girls and also for the boys. It looks like that only LP directors are really taking the "risk" for all the other producers with new girls. For that we need to thanks xxx and his system.

Without to involve my personal relationship with xxx, I stand with the fact that he saved the european porn industry. He has brought wealth and prosperity to the CZ industry, giving benefits to performers from all Europe, basically at very low profit for himself. No one did something like that before.
Then, all the rest are BS, this is the more concrete and reliable "porn distributor" on the market..

..Anyway, finally one organization did something in Prague asking to who does porn "NOW" about what it actually the best on the CZ territory.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Boshanks » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:38 pm

I have to agree, I spoke about this in the Kerry Cherry topic yesterday. The site has become saturated with it to the point where it's no longer a niche, it's now expected. I wouldn't mind so much if there was balance, but it's inclusion has become overbearing and in some cases completely ruined a scene (the recent Sandra Luberc and Chloe Lacourt scenes spring to mind). It's getting to the stage now where models are being asked to attempt it despite their obvious incapability to do so.

When I look back at what I believe is the absolute best anal content since the turn of the century, the work of Jean-Yves Le Castel, Rocco, Frank Major, Raul Cristian, and sites like Sineplex, Asstraffic and Assholefever, DAP as an act is almost non existant. The focus was the hottest European women performing in super hard anal and DP scenes, and all of their work holds up today. LP has too much focus on pushing boundaries and testing limits, the balance is all wrong. There's a reason why the rest of the industry hasn't followed suit, and my guess would be as OP mentions himself, that it's off putting for a lot of new models.
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby laura. » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:43 pm

I think the law of economics is what decides ultimately what content is produced and released. If DAP outsells other genres then good business sense would dictate that more of those scenes should be produced. On the other hand there is a balance of pleasing a dedicated and passionate fan base who all like different things, albeit packaged as a hardcore product. The misnomer for me is the hairy pussy content that seemingly nobody enjoys yet continues to be released. What are the business drivers for this I wonder? Everything on LP is very hard porn so the regular appearance of this makes me wonder is it to cater for a certain market? If this is the case the perhaps the focus should shift to fans who want dp and straight Anal to cater for them. Surely there are many more fans of thay style of porn than hairy bush penetration?

Personally I love the Dap stuff but appreciate we all havr our different levels and triggers.

I still think there is scope to increase production and release more daily scenes. I offer no empirical evidence of this,just a hunch.

And agree with above, I have lost count of the number of girls on Twitter stumbling over themselves to appear on LP. Why wouldn't they? This is the pinnacle :) xx

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby laura. » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:50 pm

I do concur with what Boshanks just said. Dap etc should not be encouraged unless the performers want to do it. Its no easy task and nobody wants to see anyone struggle. Despite this there seems to be a high number of performers who are keen to try it and many that do it on a regular basis.

LP is without doubt niche but incredibly popular also. Perhaps this is shifting porn tastes.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:27 am

gapefan wrote:
That's a bold claim, considering the top models that currently perform here. Unless, of course, you are referring to softcore models ;)

Most of the comments I come across on Twitter are from women who are falling over themselves to be able to shoot with LegalPorno :D


Not every women in porn wants to do DAP scenes, most couldn't handle it, so it stands to reason that shooting mostly DAP would put many off from appearing here.

And no one can blame LegalPorno for producing what sells, and being so good at what they do. After all, they are running a business :cool:


DAP is a niche product, surely the best way to pull in more customers is to have variety which still would include DAP scenes, just not having it in every release.

I'll leave you with a quote from our own, Giorgio Grandi:


I don't really disagree with anything Georgio says in that statement, for me LP is the best porn producer in Europe, but doing just one niche act will make the site stale pretty soon in my opinion, and what then TAP in every scene?

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:21 am

You misunderstood me. I'm not saying every woman wants to do DAP. And I'm not saying that every release should include it.

In fact, over the past month roughly half of the scenes released have double anal in them (a little less than that actually). I personally feel, that for a site focused on extreme anal and multiple penetrations, half is not an unreasonable ratio.

There have been several popular models here that, to this day, have not ever performed a DAP on LegalPorno. Off the top of my head, Gina Gerson, Jessie Volt, and Leona Levi. There are others. Those are just a few recent ones that readily come to mind.

Do I believe if they performed a DAP it would increase their popularity here, and would sell very well? Absolutely. But it hasn't been a requirement thus far, nor do I believe it ever will be.

You said so yourself, LegalPorno is a niche site.

It's able to charge premium rates, because it provides a premium product that is difficult to find elsewhere. It's their competetive advantage. No other site that I visit distributes their product solely à la carte. I believe they are able to successfully do this, and remain profitable, because of the way they differentiate themselves from their competition.

I also believe LegalPorno does provide a wide variety of scene types. I think some people are just being overly sensitive, that's all. Just my opinion.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:18 pm

Cynewulf30 wrote:Just like when the site was releasing piss scenes everyday it is likely to be offputting for many great girls to appear here as there is a perception of this site being too extreme.

Look, LP is known for good rates and professionality in the biz.
Girls know what waits for them in Prague and apart from that no girl not into performing dap gets herself booked for it. Is just as simple as that!
(Before it was the same for piss)
But I guess you have another agenda, dont you? ;) :mad:


Btw, the more you try to make LP loose money for whoever the more they stick to what made them great! Look at the sales rates to see what I am talking about!
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby danthefan73 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:45 pm

shark1 wrote:Agree, when the piss scenes were starting to be released very often of course people complained. I love piss scenes but in order to give everyone variety all genres should be catered too during weekly updates. It has gotten that way for DAP, so much DAP, too much DAP and now TAP too. I often skip DAP scenes now unless there is a girl I really like, I would much rather see deep DP fucking than only the heads of guys cocks simultaneously go in the same hole. It's just about as boring to me as lez scenes. They will keep shooting DAP because it is very popular and that's fine, just like piss was, but DAP scenes are starting to overwhelm this site unfortunately.


I think piss scenes actually turn off some porn-fans and make them less likely to watch the scene. I know this is true for me. And it was probably true for enough porn-fans to make Legal Porn change its porn-making.

DAP and TAP don't turn me off, but I think they are too slow and not deep enough. I'd rather see one guy go cock-to-ass with a hot lass hard-and-fast and all the way to his balls. Fast anal-sex and balls-deep penetration is the thing that does it for me.

Two guys stretching the lady's ass in a DAP is more like foreplay that can potentially lead the way to hotter 1 on 1 anals and 2 on 1 DPs.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:11 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Cynewulf30 wrote:Just like when the site was releasing piss scenes everyday it is likely to be offputting for many great girls to appear here as there is a perception of this site being too extreme.

Look, LP is known for good rates and professionality in the biz.
Girls know what waits for them in Prague and apart from that no girl not into performing dap gets herself booked for it. Is just as simple as that!
(Before it was the same for piss)
But I guess you have another agenda, dont you? ;) :mad:


Btw, the more you try to make LP loose money for whoever the more they stick to what made them great! Look at the sales rates to see what I am talking about!


I don't have any agenda other then to air my opinion that there is too much DAP being released at the moment.I certainly don't wish for LP to loose money, i wouldn't be a member myself if i did, so it is a ridiculous assertion to make.I wouldn't have expected you to be impartial on this debate though, the clue is in your name. :p
All i am after is more variety in the releases,which would include DAP scenes.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby nec5150 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:28 pm

shark1 wrote:and now TAP too.

Where are the links to TAP?

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:22 pm

Cynewulf30 wrote:All i am after is more variety in the releases,which would include DAP scenes.

Not sure! You have an anti-porn reasoning often and lately also anti-LP. :mad: :(
But anyway, IF its only about variety I am fully on your side. :)
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:03 pm

How exactly is my reasoning anti-porn?, i love porn, and as a member of LP i love this site, stop infering bullshit just because i don't agree with you.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby cannonballs » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:49 am

I agree with the author of this thread.

I don't like DAP or TAP or Piss.

It just looks like the girls struggle with it and it must be painful.

I would like to see girls that are enthusiastic about the sex and I think with anal it's doable. DAP & TAP is too much for them to enjoy.

Girls are more likely to run away from porn if you make them do DAP & TAP. :'(

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Trustyourservery » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:05 am

if the girl is dap-able it's very very enjoyable but if she isnt it's just a pain.But the dap thing is never too much :D

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby cannonballs » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:21 am

I just don't want LP to get into a situation where they scare girls with promising porn careers away because too many cocks were put in her ass at once D:.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:26 am

Today's scene with beautiful Taissia Shanti was DAP free, and I absolutely loved it! :eek:

Seeing such a gorgeous model like her, getting her pussy double stuffed is so amazing! :cool:

As always I'm sure, LegalPorno gave her the choice of what she wanted to do in her scene ;)

And the results were incredible! She really seemed to enjoy it! :)

She even did a little triple penetration, with two in her pussy and one in her ass! :D

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:11 am

cannonballs wrote:I agree with the author of this thread.

I don't like DAP or TAP or Piss.

It just looks like the girls struggle with it and it must be painful.

I would like to see girls that are enthusiastic about the sex and I think with anal it's doable. DAP & TAP is too much for them to enjoy.

Girls are more likely to run away from porn if you make them do DAP & TAP. :'(


I'm not sure you do agree with me, it is not that i dislike DAP, i just think that there is just too much of it being released at the moment.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Anotherfine » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:01 pm

cannonballs wrote:I just don't want LP to get into a situation where they scare girls with promising porn careers away because too many cocks were put in her ass at once D:.
I don't think LP would force any girl, As an example I don't think Lita has been DAP'd yet and she is been in quite a few scenes
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:46 pm

It's always the girl's choice. Anyone who claims otherwise is probably associated with the hairy fat one in Budapest :D

And the idea that LegalPorno is scaring away good talent, is a farce. All one has to do, to know better, is look at the current model lineup here :cool:

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby dap-addict » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:50 pm

Exactly, gapeman!
Its this reasoning that makes me wonder wheter there isnt a hidden agenda. :mad:
Cynewulf30 wrote:I'm not sure you do agree with me, it is not that i dislike DAP, i just think that there is just too much of it being released at the moment.

Last 3 days was no dap scene at all.
I dont see your problem, really.
The more as even dap scenes include a lot of other fetishes always.
I want this studio to stay profitable and if you only would check sales rates you know what sells fine - variety spieced up with dap!
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:17 pm

gapefan wrote:It's always the girl's choice. Anyone who claims otherwise is probably associated with the hairy fat one in Budapest :D

And the idea that LegalPorno is scaring away good talent, is a farce. All one has to do, to know better, is look at the current model lineup here :cool:


Well i certainly haven't claimed LP is forcing anyone to do anything,and that wasn't the point of me starting this thread.
As for having DAP and some of the other more extreme acts like piss(last year) scaring talent away, i originally said it was "likely",that is just an opinion, and i stand by it.That doesn't mean that i think there are no great girls appearing here at all though.
I think you guys need to stop being so defensive to constructive criticism and stop seeing what i say as some kind of conspiracy against LP.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Cynewulf30 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:19 pm

dap-addict wrote:Exactly, gapeman!
Its this reasoning that makes me wonder wheter there isnt a hidden agenda. :mad:
Cynewulf30 wrote:I'm not sure you do agree with me, it is not that i dislike DAP, i just think that there is just too much of it being released at the moment.

Last 3 days was no dap scene at all.
I dont see your problem, really.
The more as even dap scenes include a lot of other fetishes always.
I want this studio to stay profitable and if you only would check sales rates you know what sells fine - variety spieced up with dap!


There have been two DAP scenes released in the last three days actually.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:11 pm

My comment about it being the girls choice wasn't directed at you Cynewulf30. I was only reinforcing what Anotherfine said. No need to be so defensive ;)

As far as the double anal here "scaring girls away", you are welcome to your opinion. I stand by mine. DAP has been very prevalent at LegalPorno over the past year and a half. Thoughout that time and right up to the present day, they continue to attract top talent :cool:

I don't doubt there are a few girls who shy away, but in my opinion they are not they type of girls who would ever be top LegalPorno talent anyway :D

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:29 pm

Just in case you missed it, here's some more recent insight from maestro Giorgio Grandi:

http://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=75213#p75213

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Do new stuff takes time, you don't simply start to shoot smt different.
It can take months for setup new content lines.

About pee: xxx (owner of the website that pays my check) told me to don't shoot pissing anymore, so Im not shooting pee anymore. Its easy to understand I think, it doesn't depend from me and I even don't care why he wants like this. For me its fine also without pissing.

DAP sells better then DP.
Swallow sells better then facial.
More boys then girls sells better then more girls then boys.
- Thats actually my stats, I don't know about other studios (and I don't really care to know)

You are right, sometime I could shoot more BJ, Im working on this problem already,
Im not shooting interracial, I will do it in future, but will take time.

We read what users write, even often comments are pretty repetitive and often very pointless.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby ronk » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:24 pm

With less DAP, I will have to buy less top up tickets. So less DAP, so poor me does not get broke buying all the DAP scenes. :cool:

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Re: Too much DAP

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dap-addict wrote:Exactly, gapeman!
Its this reasoning that makes me wonder wheter there isnt a hidden agenda. :mad:
Cynewulf30 wrote:I'm not sure you do agree with me, it is not that i dislike DAP, i just think that there is just too much of it being released at the moment.

Last 3 days was no dap scene at all.
I dont see your problem, really.
The more as even dap scenes include a lot of other fetishes always.
I want this studio to stay profitable and if you only would check sales rates you know what sells fine - variety spieced up with dap!

The only hidden agenda is you wanting every scene to contain DAP so you can start your asinine count of DAP scenes but you have the nerve to accuse someone else of an agenda! :mad: Also what 3 days are you talking about? I went back to 1/18/2016 which is 14 days and I cannot find 3 consecutive days without DAP. :rolleyes: As a matter of fact I can't find two!

gapefan wrote:Just in case you missed it, here's some more recent insight from maestro Giorgio Grandi:

http://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=75213#p75213

Giorgio Grandi wrote:DAP sells better then DP.
Swallow sells better then facial.
More boys then girls sells better then more girls then boys.
- Thats actually my stats, I don't know about other studios (and I don't really care to know)

We are all not Lemmings here, I would love to question Giorgio on these stats because I can't find the scene that illustrates his actual stats! He might be misreading the stats. IMHO for good or bad based on each members perspective, Giorgio seems to love pushing the limits and shooting DAPs, TAPs and QAPs. It has nothing to do with stats that is what he likes and he likes challenging the girls. Here are the DP scenes that I found that don't contain DAP (which is less than 3% of Giorgio scenes):
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Here are perfect examples where we can talk about other circumstances and members models appeal affecting sales. For instnace:
  • Lina scene is an intro DP
  • Milena scene can be a model preference by members issue( I say this not to insult the model because I think she is smoking hot but even her DAP scene has sold less than her DP scene)
  • Aurelly can be said to be an overreaction by the piss crowd trying to show Giorgio they wouldn't buy his stuff if it didn't include piss(during this phase Giorgio was trying to do the same piss drowning of the model but with milk)
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The interesting things about gapefan repost of Giorgio comment is he said "That's actual my stats", so I ask what are the Giorgio scenes that illustrate these stats? Giorgio statement makes no sense to me since he as only shot a handful of scenes that don't contain DAP. I really mean a handful so less than 5 not including the 0% Pussy anal stuff. So I am curious to know what scenes he is basing his actual stats on. :confused:

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Cindy Shine * Daniela Garcia * Venera * Lana Bunny * Emily Pink * Eva Perez * Kelly Oliveira
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:26 am

I'm still just not sure what all the fuss is about. In my opinion LegalPorno does provide a wide variety of scene types.

Most of the DAP scenes that are released here, also contain straight anal and DP.

The small handful of scenes that are basically 100% DAP, are far outnumbered by the amount of DP scenes that don't contain any at all. In fact, I'm quite certain they're far outnumbered by outright 1on1's, which historically have not sold very well at all (other than the one anomaly, Goldie's debut anal scene).

It seems to me there's something here for nearly every type of anal fan, practically every day. If they're willing to look for it.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by those pushing for less of what they don't favor most. Every fan wants their favorite fetish represented to the fullest. It's just human nature, I suppose.

I'm must admit, I'm guilty of the same ;)

I say, the more DAP the better! :eek: :D :cool:

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Ninefold » Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:53 am

I also think there is too many DAP scenes, it's becoming so commonplace that it's almost a given. Today we get thrown DAP scene after DAP scene and quite frankly it's an overkill. I know heaps of fans like DAP and LegalPorno is just catering to their majority audience but I really miss the days of scenes that seemed to focus more on the beautiful models and there gapes, now I feel like the focus is solely on sticking as many dicks in them as possible. This being said I have always been selective with what I buy at LegalPorno but my only worry is that lately I have had very little interest in the new content as a whole. I feel like I can never 100% appreciate the beautiful models and their bodies because I have to deal with seeing more male ass than female on screen and it sucks. My ideal type of scene would be 2 guys and 1 girl and have them take turns on the girl so we can appreciate her in motion and not be overwhelmed by dick. The newer "first time" scenes like the one with Cindy Shine are great because the focus is on the girl and that's what I am here to see. Beautiful girls, big gapes. And IMO the gapes in most DAP scenes aren't even that big anyway, if by putting in 2 dicks produced a HUGE gape then maybe I would watch more.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby gapefan » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:02 pm

dpconnoisseur1 wrote:Milena scene can be a model preference by members issue( I say this not to insult the model because I think she is smoking hot but even her DAP scene has sold less than her DP scene)

Check again.

GIO095 Milena Devi's Monsters of DAP scene is #79 on the best sellers list, with over 736,000 views.

http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos

GIO090 Milena Devi's 4on1 DP scene (released 20 days earlier) is nowhere to be found on the best sellers list, with only 261,000 views.


I realize that views do not directly equate to downloads. But surely you are willing to admit there is some kind of positive correlation there. And GIO095's position on the best sellers list is undeniable. As is the scenes position on her model page.

http://www.legalporno.com/model/3193/milena_devi

Unless of course you were referring to GIO124, the pajama party, which just barely released three weeks ago on January 10, 2016.

I hope you know, I'm not pointing any of this out to be disrespectful. I like you. You've always been a voice of reason here on the forum. And I respect that. Plus, I feel like you and I share the same passion for porn, and regard for women.

I'm just calling it how I see it. And I'm certain Giorgio is too.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby twistedvincent » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:50 pm

I agree that girls that don't want to/can't do DAP should not as it's usually ends up just being tip fucking anyway and is useless. If the girl has a great ass (Ie.Susan Melo) I can get off with just anal or DP.... assuming there's a visible cumshot of course. :)
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:56 pm

gapefan wrote:Check again.
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I realize that views do not directly equate to downloads. But surely you are willing to admit there is some kind of positive correlation there. And GIO095's position on the best sellers list is undeniable. As is the scenes position on her model page.

Hey bro, this is a forum disrespect is expected but I hear you.

Also I stand corrected as I missed the Milena scene you pointed out. I don't know how I missed it. Anyway, I still stand by my original argument of other circumstances and members model appeal affecting sales. To illustrate that I going to use the timelines that you pointed out. Lets take Milena and Arwen both scenes released in January:
Jan 10th currently 92nd on Giorgio best sellers
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/30795/g ... ity_gio124
Jan 20th currently 13th on Giorgio best sellers
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/30560/i ... old_gio129
There is not enough sample data to make the argument that I keep hearing people make. That is why I think Giorgio is misreading his stats to bolster his preferred point of view of shooting more and more challenging stuff for the models. If Giorgio had simply stated I love DAP so I will continue to shoot mostly everything DAP related then as a customer I can take it or leave it but using the statement of his stats as proofI don't see it. He disregards his excellent ability of framing the scenes and presented the angles most viewer want to see and instead he says his great sales equate to the DAP content he shoots. He has shot 111 scenes that I can see as an american member and only 3 of those contain DP and no DAP, that is less than 3% within the margin of error by any stat ever taking.

As for the views, as I said before they mean absolutely nothing. Before I blabbed and mentioned that scene downloads metadata was on the website so we could see how our preferred fetish was actually doing, you would see views meant nothing. Let me give a fabricated example because I don't remember the actual stat, I saw on numerous occasions where scenes had views upwards of 100,000s while downloads were upwards of 1,000s. Views are analogous to a site visit on a page nothing more nothing less. It just means a member or reluctant fan wanted to see a trailer which for a business doesn't equate to profits just curiosity unless LP is planning to add some advertisements to its pages for more revenue opportunities.

Thanks for pointing out the mistake in my argument, later :o

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby twistedvincent » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:38 pm

Where do you get the best seller stats?
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Re: Too much DAP

Postby magizi877 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:52 pm

I agree with dpconnoisseur1 about GG cinematography is a big part of his success, regardless of niches.
Also, the way the girls twist their body and flex in just the right way. I figure this has to be a thing he tells them to do.

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I always saw DAP as a marketing stunt, -"she must be a super whore, can't get enough cock"-
AAhh the ever tip-fucking that it is DAP. Lets talk about it.

I think GG is a little bit of an extremist. Back when PISS was a thing, he was including that almost to the point where the scenes had more PISSING action than SEX.
He also only films white people. Check out his birthday party pictures, only white people there. (lol?) What happened to Mike Chapman.
It would be really cool if all the studios try to recruit pretty girls like Halona Vog, you know, not a white girl. (BTW I love white girls)

Anyway, back on topic, back then he filmed Kendra Star, Kitana Lure, Rita Rush, some of my favorite performers, the scenes had so much piss content, that to me, those scenes were unwatchable.
This is such a big deal, cause not even some of my favorite performers caused me to like the scene...

But because I purchased those scenes, if you take a look at this statistically, you might think PISSING is what people liked and thus produce more of it. But many of us were drawn to a specific actress or other niche... like ANAL sex.
(hence why I think this website needs to include a like or dislike button).

Moving forward, PISSING was banned and now, GG replaced it with DAP.
(In all fairness, the other two studios are far less extreme in this regard. Thankfully.
Luckily for me, DAP is not as insulting as PiSS, but it's getting to my nerves TBH.
And I have several reasons why I don't like it very much. To point out a few:

- It gives the scene a bi-sexual vibe. Especially when it is as prevalent as in GG scenes (9 DAP positions, WTF!)
- It will never be balls deep. (with a normal Asshole and without causing extreme pain or tearing).

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Not being balls deep, or at least an energetic looking penetration is such a big deal. Especially considering the 4-5 tkt prices...
And I know GG scenes contain balls deep, but not during the main act of the scene. Most DAPs are pretty stale looking.
It really doesn't matter that much how crazy good looking is Belle, pretty girls are common thing in porn.

The actress view point also matters IMO. Belle has complained that she hasn't filmed any "normal scene" in quite a while.
I'm thinking getting paid more is part of it, understandably so. But IMO scenes that combine pussy and anal, in an energetic way are also welcomed.

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hmm Well TL:DR I think it would be better if "all DAP" movies were as common as Gonzo 0% Pussy scenes.
Something that happens every now and then. It would be OK to include DAP in movies but not as prevalent as it is.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby ElJab78 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:56 pm

magizi87 wrote:I agree with dpconnoisseur1 about GG cinematography is a big part of his success, regardless of niches.
Also, the way the girls twist their body and flex in just the right way. I figure this has to be a thing he tells them to do.

Image

I always saw DAP as a marketing stunt, -"she must be a super whore, can't get enough cock"-
AAhh the ever tip-fucking that it is DAP. Lets talk about it.

I think GG is a little bit of an extremist. Back when PISS was a thing, he was including that almost to the point where the scenes had more PISSING action than SEX.
He also only films white people. Check out his birthday party pictures, only white people there. (lol?) What happened to Mike Chapman.
It would be really cool if all the studios try to recruit pretty girls like Halona Vog, you know, not a white girl. (BTW I love white girls)

Anyway, back on topic, back then he filmed Kendra Star, Kitana Lure, Rita Rush, some of my favorite performers, the scenes had so much piss content, that to me, those scenes were unwatchable.
This is such a big deal, cause not even some of my favorite performers caused me to like the scene...

But because I purchased those scenes, if you take a look at this statistically, you might think PISSING is what people liked and thus produce more of it. But many of us were drawn to a specific actress or other niche... like ANAL sex.
(hence why I think this website needs to include a like or dislike button).

Moving forward, PISSING was banned and now, GG replaced it with DAP.
(In all fairness, the other two studios are far less extreme in this regard. Thankfully.
Luckily for me, DAP is not as insulting as PiSS, but it's getting to my nerves TBH.
And I have several reasons why I don't like it very much. To point out a few:

- It gives the scene a bi-sexual vibe. Especially when it is as prevalent as in GG scenes (9 DAP positions, WTF!)
- It will never be balls deep. (with a normal Asshole and without causing extreme pain or tearing).

Image
Image Image

Not being balls deep, or at least an energetic looking penetration is such a big deal. Especially considering the 4-5 tkt prices...
And I know GG scenes contain balls deep, but not during the main act of the scene. Most DAPs are pretty stale looking.
It really doesn't matter that much how crazy good looking is Belle, pretty girls are common thing in porn.

The actress view point also matters IMO. Belle has complained that she hasn't filmed any "normal scene" in quite a while.
I'm thinking getting paid more is part of it, understandably so. But IMO scenes that combine pussy and anal, in an energetic way are also welcomed.

Image Image

hmm Well TL:DR I think it would be better if "all DAP" movies were as common as Gonzo 0% Pussy scenes.
Something that happens every now and then. It would be OK to include DAP in movies but not as prevalent as it is.


Pretty much agree with everything Magizi87 says. He hits it right on the money.

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Boshanks » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:29 pm

^ Yep ;)

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby mdsflyby » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:39 am

magizi87 wrote:- It gives the scene a bi-sexual vibe. Especially when it is as prevalent as in GG scenes (9 DAP positions, WTF!)


Bi-sexual vibe???? :D :D :D OMG! :eek: You mean when the dicks rubbing against each other? :o And all this time I was focusing on the girls, silly me, now I feel like I was missing out :( Oh well, maybe next time I will try to focus on the dicks and try to catch some of this bi-sexual vibe :D

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Re: Too much DAP

Postby Iddaoeeok » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:28 am

Magizi is a guy who generally talks sense - as well as producing the best gifs on the planet! I've avoided this discussion previously because, I agree that the DAP thing has got out of control but it's difficult to say that without sounding anti-DAP. Also I am a complete hypocrite because I love Linda Sweet, who is pretty much the Queen of DAPs, and the recent Kattie Gold scene put me in some sort of ecstatic state from which I am only just recovering. :)

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