Is this message board in the end days?

[mjackson]

I've lurked on this board for years. Haven't been around recently, but it looks like it's really fallen off in the last year. The front page was usually filled with threads being refreshed and bumped.

[netzerkaiser]

I've lurked on this board for years. Haven't been around recently, but it looks like it's really fallen off in the last year. The front page was usually filled with threads being refreshed and bumped.

The new releases aren't as interesting as 5 years ago, the decline of SZ & all the Czech beauties being a key player, so a lot of inspiration for topics & threads is gone.

The creation of the off-topic forum was a great & necessary idea, but naturally it took a lot of sheer basic novelty from main forum.

I think that people have grown cautious over discussing porn in general, because a few have been slapped down for mentioning & comparing other sites. LP | AV should be above that.

The focus on joyless DAP | circus stuff past few years has also contributed to a limited realm of discussable topics, many of which few members are involved or interested in, myself included.

LP needs to go back to its SZ | Sineplex roots.

[visigoth2020260]

people are not interacting anymore.
and the producers love it as they can do as they wish.
like for example 5 years ago, AGS wouldn't have gotten away with that camera work and NT would hade fix its trouble chop, chop and no legs or high heals agenda for sure.
i just do not know what the F happened
maybe the moderators started to become friendly toward producers and not so towards users,
warnings and delete post.
when they no like what you wrote.
maybe that is what happened ?
or a bunch of fapers who only care is cumming.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

There are a handful of us who purposefully keep things alive, and post regularly...!

[Naaru]

I actually would disagree.

I took a long break away, but lately I see some core community members discussing interesting topics, theres still the random bullshit as always.
The insane totally unfeasible request threads, and its true many are unhappy with the spam of bullshit videos going on.

On the other hand, Ive seen for example studios like Giorgio interacting here, XXX engaging with site specific answers and explanations.

While its a bit harder than in the golden era of sineplex CZ and Gonzo to really grab instant buys every day, there are some studios doing good things.

So basically no - I dont think its end of days, I think with a bit more activity and positivity from community veterans things can be pretty good.

[Ultra-Gape]

I've lurked on this board for years. Haven't been around recently, but it looks like it's really fallen off in the last year. The front page was usually filled with threads being refreshed and bumped.

If more people posted rather than just lurked then the forum would be more active. Maybe you could share what generally stops you posting in case it can help encourage others?

I'd love to see more people posting regularly, particularly about scenes they've particularly enjoyed (new or old). There's such a vast amount of content here that this is personally my main interest in being here. A secondary one is the possible small impact that discussion may have on future scenes produced but the more limited the forum involvement the less seriously such discussions are like to be taken.

[greenfunk727]

I think the forum has seen better days but I don't think it is the end of days either.

I don't post as much as I used to and I'm not 100% sure why not.

I do miss the interaction from directors which used to occur more frequently in the past. GIO and Joachim used to post a lot more which I always found interesting and informative a lot of the time.

I think other factors like the pandemic and 0nlyfan$ have impacted this site but I think the site will improve over time because the strong brand name and exposure that shooting on this website can bring to a model.

I think things are transitional at the moment and I think the message board will improve

[poldijk]

LP needs to go back to its SZ | Sineplex roots.

I don't know how to say it, Netzerkaiker did

[poldijk]

I think other factors like the pandemic and 0nlyfan$ have impacted this site but I think the site will improve over time because the strong brand name and exposure that shooting on this website can bring to a model.

sorry but did you see the model page? I don't understand why the pandemic situation is involved

hidden face video, cam girls doing pussy stuffs when they are doing anal stuff everywhere else....

I agree with the strong brand, but it's a matter of choice, why to provide those stuffs?

quality over quantity is gone

[Naaru]

LP needs to go back to its SZ | Sineplex roots.

I don't know how to say it, Netzerkaiker did

Its been said 1000 times at this point, for some reason they either dont want to / cant / or wont go back to the quality and format that were the golden era.
There probably are factors that are unknown by the consumer, but sometimes its very frustrating to get barely 1 or 2 scene a month that grabs interest.

[netzerkaiser]

LP needs to go back to its SZ | Sineplex roots.

I don't know how to say it, Netzerkaiker did

Thanks Poldijk.

It almost breaks my heart to say it, but I agree with OP.

Gotta go back to simple eroticism, the key quality isn't the extremity of the act, but the attractiveness of the model, & the price.

[netzerkaiser]

XXX & Giorgio could do much worse than propose a meeting, face to face with everyone of us glad to attend, to discuss.

I'd be glad to arrange time off work to fly to Prague.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqJvqMeaDtU

[Jocke]

The message board needs its own justification regardless of the quality of the porn sold here.

I am interested in thoughtful intellectual discussions. Yes I know porn is primitive, but you can still reflect, analyse and share some deeper thoughts. If it is purely raw emotions, prejudice, hate or lies, I am not interested.

I have been put off by some aggressive neanderthals and rarely read anything here any longer.

[Ultra-Gape]

I have been put off by some aggressive neanderthals and rarely read anything here any longer.

There's stuff like that here that I just ignore and it would be great if you could maybe try to do the same and post more again. I remember it occurring to me a few days ago that I didn't think I'd seen you posting recently actually.

[pieare]

This forum has or has many bullies who harass others, so many of us kept away from the forum.

I think though the real death is the bad inflation situation the world faces and the disgusting content of the website. I see yesterday a woman with a dirty toilet seat on her head, another with a bowl of cloudy urine, another day the ruined anus of an argentine. There is fake scat, post-operative TS with badly constructed "vagina", prolapsed anus, so much BMWF IR that it is hard to find WMWF some days....


What's next? more realistic looking scat? more vomit? cutting? simulated something not legal porno?


I am hardened pornaddict with 38 years, and I am disgusted. Imagine what the young man sees or the young woman. No wonder this forum is dying, it should be already dead!

[vvvv84335]

This forum has or has many bullies who harass others, so many of us kept away from the forum.

I think though the real death is the bad inflation situation the world faces and the disgusting content of the website. I see yesterday a woman with a dirty toilet seat on her head, another with a bowl of cloudy urine, another day the ruined anus of an argentine. There is fake scat, post-operative TS with badly constructed "vagina", prolapsed anus, so much BMWF IR that it is hard to find WMWF some days....


What's next? more realistic looking scat? more vomit? cutting? simulated something not legal porno?


I am hardened pornaddict with 38 years, and I am disgusted. Imagine what the young man sees or the young woman. No wonder this forum is dying, it should be already dead!

I'm guessing you're Vagabundo.

There is very little bullying on this site, but there are people who insinuate that white women are being degraded by fucking black men etc. There's the usual racism and when that occurs people will naturally come and denounce such hateful things. Also calling all people "LGBT cuckold leftists" when they confront you with these racist remarks is bullying. There is free speech, but that doesn't mean there won't be a reaction to hateful comments.

[vvvv84335]

I have been put off by some aggressive neanderthals and rarely read anything here any longer.

I know exactly how you feel.

[Ultra-Gape]

For those put off by some of the views posted, I'd suggest the way to see an overall change is to post more of the type of content that you do want to see. To some extent I guess that's what I'm doing currently, and I'm hoping my posts don't generally fall into the 'aggressive Neanderthal' category.

[dap-addict]

Haven't been around recently, but it looks like it's really fallen off in the last year. The front page was usually filled with threads being refreshed and bumped.

That's funny in a way because this thread was started exactly at a time I felt a lot more posters started to contribute with meaningful discussions again.
Of course it could always be better, but it was actually much worse just a few months ago.
I do miss Jocke, though.

[vvvv84335]

For those put off by some of the views posted, I'd suggest the way to see an overall change is to post more of the type of content that you do want to see. To some extent I guess that's what I'm doing currently, and I'm hoping my posts don't generally fall into the 'aggressive Neanderthal' category.

No my friend, you've always been cordial and mature - more so than I have I will admit.

[vvvv84335]

Haven't been around recently, but it looks like it's really fallen off in the last year. The front page was usually filled with threads being refreshed and bumped.

That's funny in a way because this thread was started exactly at a time I felt a lot more posters started to contribute with meaningful discussions again.
Of course it could always be better, but it was actually much worse just a few months ago.
I do miss Jocke, though.

Well I think that the current conflicts going on in the world, be it war, economic/inflation or pandemic... these are contributing factors to people not going online to post in a forum as often I think. There's also people who have most likely been on holiday.

Forum activity is something that will have its ups and downs as people are busy with life. I don't really feel there's been a lack of conversation even if it may be less frequent in the view of some.

[Paizal]

Forums are a relic of the 2000s that will eventually die out either way.

Another point is - what were the reasons why there used to be more going on? Many threads were about complaints and criticism. These people realized, no one at LP/AV cares. No one at GG or GONZO cares what is written here. Therefore, the complainers and critics have withdrawn and now 60-70% of contributions are missing.

[vvvv84335]

Forums are a relic of the 2000s that will eventually die out either way.

Another point is - what were the reasons why there used to be more going on? Many threads were about complaints and criticism. These people realized, no one at LP/AV cares. No one at GG or GONZO cares what is written here. Therefore, the complainers and critics have withdrawn and now 60-70% of contributions are missing.

People have been saying the same thing about message boards, e-mail, IRC etc. Yet they are still very much active more than 20-30+ years later.

[Ultra-Gape]

Forums are a relic of the 2000s that will eventually die out either way.

Whilst I know you're right that younger people are less likely to use forums like this I never quite understand how more modern 'social media' fulfil the same role? I'll look at some (the names of which are bizarrely blocked here) but I've yet to find some apparently secret group for discussing Analvids content, and that the producers here may actually at least occasionally look at or contribute to?

@vvvv84335 thanks for your comment re. my posts. Can't say I recall anything you posted bothering my btw. Everyone occasionally annoys others with out even meaning to anyway. I know I do!

[Paizal]

People have been saying the same thing about message boards, e-mail, IRC etc. Yet they are still very much active more than 20-30+ years later.

When it comes to pop culture or everyday entertainment, forums are dead. Nobody talks about the finale of Better Call Saul or the last NFL game day in any forums. These communication mediums cannabalize each other respectively replace each other permanently. Why porn and forums still work together like this? Because both are relics. US Porn is a shadow of its former self and has been eaten by OF. No 20 year old logs on to any forum to talk about scenes from Mason or Jules Jordan....because there's nothing to talk about.

[vvvv84335]

People have been saying the same thing about message boards, e-mail, IRC etc. Yet they are still very much active more than 20-30+ years later.

When it comes to pop culture or everyday entertainment, forums are dead. Nobody talks about the finale of Better Call Saul or the last NFL game day in any forums. These communication mediums cannabalize each other respectively replace each other permanently. Why porn and forums still work together like this? Because both are relics. US Porn is a shadow of its former self and has been eaten by OF. No 20 year old logs on to any forum to talk about scenes from Mason or Jules Jordan....because there's nothing to talk about.

Yea but porn isn't exactly something you talk about on a public facebook group

[Ultra-Gape]

When it comes to pop culture or everyday entertainment, forums are dead. Nobody talks about the finale of Better Call Saul or the last NFL game day in any forums.

I sometimes post about F1 races that have just happened in a different forum, as others do. It's not that 'nobody' does but I do absolutely realise that it's an older demographic that generally does.

Do you have any thoughts on my question above as to how/why modern social media replaces the likes of this forum? I'll add that other forums I post on I do in part as a means to interact with those responsible for the creation and support of particular products, in a similar way to a small amount of interaction with porn producers here.

[Ultra-Gape]

Yea but porn isn't exactly something you talk about on a public facebook group

Fair point .

[Paizal]

Do you have any thoughts on my question above as to how/why modern social media replaces the likes of this forum?

I think it's apparently very important in our society to always follow the latest trends. When Reddit came along, forums started dying. Was Reddit better than forums? I don't think so, but it was said "...all the cool kids use Reddit". So everything moved to Reddit. Then Discord came along and suddenly that was the hot shit. Forums, Facebook, Reddit...all obsolete. If you want to be hip, you post on Discord. Discord is soon replaced by XY. It's all marketing and companies take advantage of the Internet person's fear of missing out on the latest trend.

Yea but porn isn't exactly something you talk about on a public facebook group

Either way, you're not really public on the Internet. What I have to admit, that on other platforms there are less discussions about porn.

[Ultra-Gape]

I think it's apparently very important in our society to always follow the latest trends. When Reddit came along, forums started dying. Was Reddit better than forums? I don't think so, but it was said "...all the cool kids use Reddit". So everything moved to Reddit. Then Discord came along and suddenly that was the hot shit. Forums, Facebook, Reddit...all obsolete. If you want to be hip, you post on Discord.

First of all the idea of posting anything on the internet to be 'hip' or impress anyone else is utterly alien to me but I sadly realise that a lot of modern society is seemingly predicated on this.

Regarding the rest of your comments it seems you acknowledge that there are advantages to forums such as this and so for me that is a strong reason not to write them off. As time goes on, more may find they have value again.

[Iddaoeeok]

When it comes to pop culture or everyday entertainment, forums are dead. Nobody talks about the finale of Better Call Saul or the last NFL game day in any forums. These communication mediums cannabalize each other respectively replace each other permanently. Why porn and forums still work together like this? Because both are relics. US Porn is a shadow of its former self and has been eaten by OF. No 20 year old logs on to any forum to talk about scenes from Mason or Jules Jordan....because there's nothing to talk about.

Why would you assume anyone here cares about the fate of US porn or, God help us, the last NFL game of the season? Are you making the mistake, which I see all over the internet (and Jesus it's infuriating), of assuming everybody in the world is American?

As for the forum, in some ways it's better than it was in that it seems more a bit more tightly moderated and out-and-out trolls don't last as long. In other ways, it's a lot worse in that it's lost a lot of its more interesting and intelligent contributors - though that's probably down to changes in the content of the site as a whole.

There's also the problem of the Model's section of the forum being almost unnavigable (among the latest additions there are "Lowcostcandidate" and "Brazilian Actress") but that's covered in another thread.

I personally intensely dislike posters who insist on lecturing everyone else on the forum on their political and cultural beliefs, regardless of context, and that's the thing that's most likely to drive me away from the forum. There are good posters on here like netzerkaiser who would disagree with me on that but if I ever try to force my political opinions down anyone's throat on here I would hope someone would turn round and impolitely tell me to FUCK OFF!

[Iddaoeeok]

I'm guessing you're Vagabundo.

There is very little bullying on this site, but there are people who insinuate that white women are being degraded by fucking black men etc. There's the usual racism and when that occurs people will naturally come and denounce such hateful things. Also calling all people "LGBT cuckold leftists" when they confront you with these racist remarks is bullying. There is free speech, but that doesn't mean there won't be a reaction to hateful comments.

There's a problem in the world with people who brandish the term "free speech" like a sword while either: not understanding what it means, to put it charitably, or not actually believing in it, to put it uncharitably. One aspect of free speech that these people always seem to (conveniently) forget is the right to reply. They're either so stupid they don't expect to hear it or they're liars and hypocrites who don't want to hear it.

[Paizal]

Why would you assume anyone here cares about the fate of US porn or, God help us, the last NFL game of the season? Are you making the mistake, which I see all over the internet (and Jesus it's infuriating), of assuming everybody in the world is American?

Calm down. Those were just examples. I could have mentioned music, art, or any other sport. My point was that communication platforms have changed and are constantly changing.

[dap-addict]

Another point is - what were the reasons why there used to be more going on? Many threads were about complaints and criticism. These people realized, no one at LP/AV cares. No one at GG or GONZO cares what is written here. Therefore, the complainers and critics have withdrawn and now 60-70% of contributions are missing.

Complaints are actually often listened to in as so far as its phrased as supportive criticism. Forums are read by directors and owners, although its less than it used to me. But I still see the forum power to change things like having girls pissing instead of only studs pissing, just 1 example.
Producers and directors all claim we have no word, but actually we have a lot of say!

[Ultra-Gape]

I've posted this elsewhere before but I'll just mention that I think one way to improve forum engagement would be the addition of simple 'like' function.

[Paizal]

^Something like this is always related to the software and sometimes can't be implanted. But it is useful to make opinions that have a high approval rating more noticeable.

[Ultra-Gape]

^Something like this is always related to the software and sometimes can't be implanted. But it is useful to make opinions that have a high approval rating more noticeable.

As well as helping to show popular opinions I think pretty much everyone is more likely to feel more encouraged to post if they at least occasionally get some acknowledgement from others, which likes give.

You're obviously right on the the availability of this functionality is forum software specific.

[flivvva]

A lot of younger people don't use forums and perhaps have never used forums. They have R***** and other centralized apps to find and discuss what they want. I would say the average age of someone posting here is well above my age, and I'm past Uni.

[flivvva]

I'm guessing you're Vagabundo.

There is very little bullying on this site, but there are people who insinuate that white women are being degraded by fucking black men etc. There's the usual racism and when that occurs people will naturally come and denounce such hateful things. Also calling all people "LGBT cuckold leftists" when they confront you with these racist remarks is bullying. There is free speech, but that doesn't mean there won't be a reaction to hateful comments.

There's a problem in the world with people who brandish the term "free speech" like a sword while either: not understanding what it means, to put it charitably, or not actually believing in it, to put it uncharitably. One aspect of free speech that these people always seem to (conveniently) forget is the right to reply. They're either so stupid they don't expect to hear it or they're liars and hypocrites who don't want to hear it.

The irony of the two absolute worst, rabid pricks on the forum discussing what is killing the forum. Iddaoeeok is easily the worst with vvvv84335 trailing behind him. Look at how many of the former's posts are attacking other forum members. VVVV84335 looks like he is depressed, but Iddaoeeok is just a straight up bigoted, Hebrew supremacist prick.

I'll just go back to talking about the models and what I like to see more of on the forum, do my part to restore the forum .

[Ultra-Gape]

A lot of younger people don't use forums and perhaps have never used forums. They have R***** and other centralized apps to find and discuss what they want. I would say the average age of someone posting here is well above my age, and I'm past Uni.

I suspect you're right, and am slightly amused that you're apparently suggesting that being 'past uni' is what, starting to get old? Enjoy your youth .

(I'm in my mid-forties for what it's worth. I'm confident there are others rather older than me here too.)