Simple question: Is there still a market for Sineplex style?

[Pineapples Studio]

The old 2011-2016 Sineplex style. Strong focus on anal, some DAP, nothing extreme like baseball bat insertions, fisting, prolapse, etc.

More focus on the lusty action of the male performers and fetish stuff like winking, farting, etc. with two or three girls together in the scene.

Less focus on the gangbang style with only one girl, manhandle, roughness for the sake of roughness, causing pain or discomfort on purpose to the girls, etc.

It’s a simple question. What do you guys want?

[otto1219]

There is still a market for Pineapples Studio style of porn! Your studio has been sorely missed.
You mean fewer or no trans, less piss, little slapping, acrobatic awkward non-sexual positioning. multi girl with girl/girl interaction, no puke, men who appear to enjoy what they are doing, girls active, actual lust? Creativity in direction and someone who knows how to best capture the action? Is that what you're asking?
Y E S. There is.

[otto1219]

There is still a market for Pineapples Studio style of porn! Your studio has been sorely missed.
You mean fewer or no trans, less piss, little slapping, acrobatic awkward non-sexual positioning. multi girl with girl/girl interaction, no puke, men who appear to enjoy what they are doing, girls active, actual lust? Creativity in direction and someone who knows how to best capture the action with a camera? Is that what you're asking?
Y E S. There is.

[Pineapples Studio]

I do plan to branch out into trans eventually, just FYI, but it won’t take over everything I shoot for the simple reason that it’s a lot harder to find trans models (and guys who will perform with them) out in Prague.

I’m glad I have your support, but I’m interested if people are still buying this style of porn in large numbers. The pendulum on this site has swung very far in the direction of extreme content, as I always suspected it would.

[Ultra-Gape]

I suspect the answer to your question is 'yes' but the real question would be is the market big enough. Which I guess is what you're trying to find out .

The absolute number one thing that makes a scene good for me is seeing an attractive girl getting genuinely turned on by the sex (or at least acting well enough to convince me she is!), and ideally having orgasms. The more natural/real the girl's reactions seem, the better.

For myself, I have zero interest in DAP, or guys pissing come to that. I also don't enjoy scenes with so many guys that it's a struggle to actually see the girl(s).

Manhandling is good when it ups the intensity in a way that turns the girls on, but not when it doesn't. This is going to be model-specific as well as how it's done. I personally really like to see the girls having their asses spanked, which I don't think it's that uncommon for girls to like (within limits) but I wouldn't want it for a model that clearly hates it.

'Gapefarting' never interested me. Anal winking can look hot but ideally I'd rather see this induced by a large cock than from prolonged sections with toys. If there is a toy section with two girls then deep/passionate gape licking is what I'd like to see too. Guys doing the same once they're involved is something I'd like to see too.

Not sure how useful or common my thoughts are, but that's what they are .

[Ultra-Gape]

One other general preference actually is that I prefer to see girls getting both vaginal and anal sex rather than 0% pussy. I say this partly as it probably generally makes the whole scene more enjoyable for the girls but mostly as I find it hot seeing a 'used'/gaping anus while the girls pussy is getting fucked and I also REALLY like to see a girls pussy as anus gaped at the same time. Here's a gif of Sofi Goldfinger and Ed Junior demonstrating what I mean .



Scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29753

(For anyone who hasn't watched this scene and who doesn't hate all 1 on 1 scenes on principle, I very highly recommend it!)

[zeusanalfreak299]

The old 2011-2016 Sineplex style. Strong focus on anal, some DAP, nothing extreme like baseball bat insertions, fisting, prolapse, etc.

More focus on the lusty action of the male performers and fetish stuff like winking, farting, etc. with two or three girls together in the scene.

Less focus on the gangbang style with only one girl, manhandle, roughness for the sake of roughness, causing pain or discomfort on purpose to the girls, etc.

It’s a simple question. What do you guys want?

I spent 50-150 € per month in these years and payed 3-5 TKT per video. That was the golden era from the customers perspective like me.

Today, I have dozens of tickets and have nothing to buy, because of several reasons which were criticized by many old members in a lot of threads.

The Sineolex style (camera angle, lense, lightning, outfits, beauty, makeup, passionate fast ballsdeep penetration, focus on girl) is exactly what I miss and cry for. With today's prices, I would spent 100-200€ per month if the Sineplex style would come back.

[zeusanalfreak299]

There is still a market for Pineapples Studio style of porn! Your studio has been sorely missed.
You mean fewer or no trans, less piss, little slapping, acrobatic awkward non-sexual positioning. multi girl with girl/girl interaction, no puke, men who appear to enjoy what they are doing, girls active, actual lust? Creativity in direction and someone who knows how to best capture the action? Is that what you're asking?
Y E S. There is.

You perfectly explained what I feel every night when I check the updates... Thanks!

[Pineapples Studio]

This is encouraging. Forums are anecdotal and need to be taken with a grain of salt, but customer loyalty is important too for word-of-mouth purposes, even if it’s small at first.

[zeusanalfreak299]

I do plan to branch out into trans eventually, just FYI, but it won’t take over everything I shoot for the simple reason that it’s a lot harder to find trans models (and guys who will perform with them) out in Prague.

I’m glad I have your support, but I’m interested if people are still buying this style of porn in large numbers. The pendulum on this site has swung very far in the direction of extreme content, as I always suspected it would.

I don't know the economical site of the business, but I think/estimate that with lower prices (5-8 TKT) enough would buy if the models will be hot. And if the content will be a little softer (like the majority of Sineplex videos) maybe the costs will be lower and more very sexy and pretty models will be ready to join the industry. I think there are hotties which simply don't want to do everything (DAP, Piss) and would gladly shoot 10-30 awesome 1on1, DP or airtight scenes. Models like Lita Phoenix, Alica Miller, Maria Devine.

[Ultra-Gape]

actual lust?

This is a very succinct way of putting what is missing from huge numbers of scenes released these days.

[Pineapples Studio]

There’s a lot of reasons why that is the case, but yeah, it’s a big problem with modern porn IMO.

This thread is really intended as a general question and is not specifically about my own productions, though.

[Naaru]

There’s a lot of reasons why that is the case, but yeah, it’s a big problem with modern porn IMO.

This thread is really intended as a general question and is not specifically about my own productions, though.

Very very much yes.
I could go off on a massive explainer about why and what to see, but I have a strong feeling you already know. I have posted pretty heavily about it in the past.

If you want more input - happy to give it.

I started out by buying the sineplex dvds though before this site was really a thing - that should be saying enough.

Remember the No Limits series? Sliders, Big Black Lil Pink, ATOGM, HardcoreClimax, Monster Gapes.


All this triple everything is fucking wasting what could be amazing scenes.
There have been some good stars here and there - Liloo but too few scenes, Candy Crush started amazing with powerful DPs but now its kinda a bit of a mish mash often, Ice Di - big promise, but again bit of a mess lately. Isabella De Laa? Great scenes but gone too soon.
The list goes on and on and on.

as I say - happy to go into detail but I really REALLY REALLY miss the older style of content - Balls deep anal fucking, DPs as standard, as big as the girls can take, some ATM and ATOGM thrown in

[bake0213]

Personally I am not sure. I usually prefer more men than women even if it is 3 on 2. Second, I prefer to see DP or DV over anal only. Third, the site has put me off enough that I'm having trouble letting myself buy more tickets. I used to buy 1-2 scenes a day. In the last two years, I've bought about 2 scenes per month.

[netzerkaiser]

There’s a lot of reasons why that is the case, but yeah, it’s a big problem with modern porn IMO.

This thread is really intended as a general question and is not specifically about my own productions, though.

Great to see you back here again!

You were missed!

All my favourite LP styles & stuff is represented by SZ 2012 - 2017.

Simple man, simple pleasures, even though below is EXTREME for me. Like I said before, a video tracking Jane Darling walking up a 13 flight stairs naked would be infinitely more erotic than all this crazy 'queer' stuff pushed on us daily...

We CANNOT be alone in feeling this.

EG: Example of 4 perfect scenes below, with Akasha Cullen, Tereza, Andy Brown & Helen Him... :

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/28316
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/30084
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/27598
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/28190

I hope life is treating you well buddy!

[Ultra-Gape]

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/28190

I realise this will just mark me in the OCD camp for most, but I wish Helen hadn't put her stockings on backwards!



Tereza's scene looks more promising though. I always liked it when Mike pulled the girls into this upright DP position:



Plus as mentioned above I do like this:

[netzerkaiser]

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/28190

I realise this will just mark me in the OCD camp for most, but I wish Helen hadn't put her stockings on backwards!



Tereza's scene looks more promising though. I always liked it when Mike pulled the girls into this upright DP position:



Plus as mentioned above I do like this:

Thanks!

[davebowman]

Yes...BUT - there are so many hundreds of scenes released here each week, and the ticket price has (in general) gone up so high, that I now have to be extremely picky about which scenes I buy. So a scene has to hit all, or at least most, of my personal likes to actually make the grade. A scene which 2-3 years ago would have been an easy purchase at 5 tickets, has to be really special to catch my attention at 10+ tickets.

I have my own specific taste which might turn me off of buying a more expensive scene (eg: too much vaginal, all nude, barefoot fetish stuff, pubiv hair etc), but everyone's going to have their own tastes, so who knows which is most popular?

I guess probably best to find some kind of angle or identity which is in some way unique, and doesn't feel like every other studio. Whether that's an interesting set (I'd kill for a bit more variety than 'room with white walls and a couch', ie: something set in a stripclub etc), or slightly different scenarios than the usual standard gonzo action (even if it's just a costume and a five minute story set-up at the beginning), or the way the girls are styled that feels unique.

I'd say material that concentrates on farting, ass winking etc are still fairly thin on the ground. Material with 3 (or more) girls in one scene are also pretty rare, so might be a selling angle - although obviously that's going to push the price up. That said, in the past I've been happy to buy scenes like the kuckmal party with Mina, Francys Belle and Cindy Shine - the hotness factor of having three girls was enough for me to overlook the foot fetish stuff which isn't my taste.

[Ultra-Gape]

I wonder if the price increases may actually increase the demand for more 'classic' rather than extreme content for some? I mentioned above that I don't like watching DAP but in the past I've bought some DAP scenes where the rest of the content appealed. Now I'd be far less likely to pay the price premium for scenes with content like this that I'd rather wasn't there.

On the flip-side though I'll bet there are many who save their tickets for just the most extreme content.

[netzerkaiser]

SORRY...

I really think theres a market out there, untapped except by maybe 21stSextury in terms of Europe, for non-'extreme' sex.

But LP | AV will never know unless they have courage to try & attract it.

[Ultra-Gape]

I really think theres a market out there, untapped except by maybe 21stSextury in terms of Europe, for non-'extreme' sex.

I think it's a huge stretch to equate modern 21 Sextury content to classic Sineplex era scenes personally.

[MackZatis]

YES!
Yes there most certainly is....

[poldijk]

I find it hot seeing a 'used'/gaping anus while the girls pussy is getting fucked and I also REALLY like to see a girls pussy as anus gaped at the same time. Here's a gif of Sofi Goldfinger and Ed Junior demonstrating what I mean .

Scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29753

(For anyone who hasn't watched this scene and who doesn't hate all 1 on 1 scenes on principle, I very highly recommend it!)

excelent, thanks for sharing

her asshole is a work of art

[dap-addict]

YES!
Yes there most certainly is....

+ 1
I'm just waiting, Pineapples, but suddenly disappearing with no notice and non-communication for months and months anyway, sure dont help built trust.
Maybe its just a nostalgic dream so many old members share and thats it.
For me often criticizing SOS and PC those days I would enjoy them back, but I also know I'd need more DAP ideally.

[netzerkaiser]

The Russian girls are still lovely for example.

Big problem is the aggressive narcissism of the Russian guys, like Nick & Mr Anderson.

I make an exeption for Oliver Trunk, he has humour.

Big problem with guys performing like they've a hive or massive itch they need to get rid of.

[Ultra-Gape]

I'm just waiting, Pineapples, but suddenly disappearing with no notice and non-communication for months and months anyway, sure dont help built trust.

I'm not sure what trust has to do with anything. This isn't some sort of crowdfunding campaign, just a very limited market survey.

[verts]

The old 2011-2016 Sineplex style. Strong focus on anal, some DAP, nothing extreme like baseball bat insertions, fisting, prolapse, etc.

More focus on the lusty action of the male performers and fetish stuff like winking, farting, etc. with two or three girls together in the scene.

Less focus on the gangbang style with only one girl, manhandle, roughness for the sake of roughness, causing pain or discomfort on purpose to the girls, etc.

It’s a simple question. What do you guys want?

Funny how much what is deemed extreme is the eye of the beholder. None of the extreme stuff above, just acceptable "fetish" stuff like gross winking and gross farting.

How about none of that nasty stuff that simulates women shitting and pissing and vomiting, bleeding, rectum inverted etc.
How about none of that with woman being waterboarded in a basin of piss.
How about none of that engaging in whatever racist fantasy some hater wants to indulge in with the White girls used as punching bag.

How about people having sex, not bodily functions and inhumane anatomy.

[verts]

The Russian girls are still lovely for example.

Big problem is the aggressive narcissism of the Russian guys, like Nick & Mr Anderson.

I make an exeption for Oliver Trunk, he has humour.

Big problem with guys performing like they've a hive or massive itch they need to get rid of.

Agreed moreso the Nick Rock guy (thin mustache) is forgetting that woman is the center of the scene, man is there to be a penis that fucks her. The man is NOT to be the star in straight porn.

[Pineapples Studio]

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but from my perspective, pornographers are simply merchants. The only thing they owe you is the content you’ve paid them for. There is never any guarantee that a pornographer you like will continue to produce the content you want to see from them, nor is there any guarantee that they will even still be working in the future. It’s a product, not a service. People in this industry need to have the freedom to come and go as they please.

Maybe I’m just stupid, though. A lot of people seem to think so.

[Ultra-Gape]

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but from my perspective, pornographers are simply merchants. The only thing they owe you is the content you’ve paid them for. There is never any guarantee that a pornographer you like will continue to produce the content you want to see from them, nor is there any guarantee that they will even still be working in the future. It’s a product, not a service. People in this industry need to have the freedom to come and go as they please.

Maybe I’m just stupid, though. A lot of people seem to think so.

This is 100% how I see it, hence my reply above. And on the flip-side customers will choose whether to pay for content or not based on what is produced and the price. Professional porn production is a business like any other in this regard.

One reason I choose to pay for porn and post here about it is support and encourage the production of content that I enjoy. Selfish really!

One thought if you're looking for more customer feedback is that if you post a poll you'll get typically get far more people choosing to vote than actually post regularly here. Whether or not such data may be helpful or not I have no idea of course.

[cancu823]

The old 2011-2016 Sineplex style. Strong focus on anal, some DAP, nothing extreme like baseball bat insertions, fisting, prolapse, etc.

More focus on the lusty action of the male performers and fetish stuff like winking, farting, etc. with two or three girls together in the scene.

Less focus on the gangbang style with only one girl, manhandle, roughness for the sake of roughness, causing pain or discomfort on purpose to the girls, etc.

It’s a simple question. What do you guys want?

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/23380
That's the stuff we need

[visigoth2020260]

yes but anal milk scenes do not sell very well, that is what the pro says on an old post, and they aren't been made, that says it all.

[Ultra-Gape]

VK released this milk scene in December if it's of interest to anyone:

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/125826

I'm not a fan of milk scenes personally though.

[vvvv84335]

Lots of DVP/DAP/Double BJ without the piss/prolapse/scat gimmick.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Yes, there is a market for it...but it is getting smaller. With the squeeze on people's hard earned cash, porn fans want to see something a bit extra, more extreme...it is more a reflection of the economic circumstances that we are under...

[Ultra-Gape]

Yes, there is a market for it...but it is getting smaller. With the squeeze on people's hard earned cash, porn fans want to see something a bit extra, more extreme...it is more a reflection of the economic circumstances that we are under...

What about when the 'bit extra, more extreme' costs even more money though? The Stacy Bloom and Harper Maddox fisting scene mentioned in another thread costs 11.5 tickets for each of the two parts for example.

[dap-addict]

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but from my perspective, pornographers are simply merchants. The only thing they owe you is the content you’ve paid them for. There is never any guarantee that a pornographer you like will continue to produce the content you want to see from them, nor is there any guarantee that they will even still be working in the future. It’s a product, not a service.

Well, here I agree.
But I guess you know what I am talking about.
Anyway, last year - and this one as well - I wasnt just only a porn consumer, but also helping girls you wanted to shoot then. Thus its more complicated a bit.

[dap-addict]

Yes, there is a market for it...but it is getting smaller. With the squeeze on people's hard earned cash, porn fans want to see something a bit extra, more extreme...

I wouldn't say that.
More extreme isn't better often.
But I see another problem with recent ticket devaluation by 35% and Pineapple Studios conception of a Sineplex style rebirth: SOS often booked 2-3 girls, that will push ticket price up a lot under new regime even if sex acts and side festishes arent extreme. Even a cheap sex act like a 2on3 DP will most probably cost over 10tkt.
That makes it really difficult for new studios shooting in EU or USA.

[verts]

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but from my perspective, pornographers are simply merchants. The only thing they owe you is the content you’ve paid them for. There is never any guarantee that a pornographer you like will continue to produce the content you want to see from them, nor is there any guarantee that they will even still be working in the future. It’s a product, not a service. People in this industry need to have the freedom to come and go as they please.

Maybe I’m just stupid, though. A lot of people seem to think so.

This is a lie by obfuscation, often repeated.

The pornographers make WHAT THEY FIND INTRIGUING. If the content sells well, they continue.

The pornographer creates demand for his product.


The nonsense that "I just am giving the customers what they want", is an attempt by the pornographer to not implicate his own desires to the public.

[Naaru]

Scenes that are good - and that I would want to see more of:
This one with Nicole : Black cock addiction scene #1573 - she basically gets absolutely hammered from start to finish
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/24509



never seen enough of the simple ATOGM action any more
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/2718



Toys to keep the girls nice and open - many older scenes kept toys in the mix, help keep the gape for more balls deep fucking
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/184



Just keep it simple? in many classic scenes 3 guys, a lot of straightforward deep ass fucking - the ending of most NRX scenes with the guys just taking turns as balls deep as possible is the best part in most scenes lately
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/6002