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It's end?!

Postby chaudelapine669 » Mon May 16, 2022 6:15 pm

Gorgio,

your site looks more and more like a garbage can, it really looks like you want to sink your box... Between the rickety women, the over-tattooed ones, the trout lips, your very disgusting pissing scenes. It almost feels like a museum of horrors. To believe that you don't want to exit the gallery, but rather scare it away... Brake on the "cke" and question yourself, buddy. Go back to the beginning of your productions and put a little grain of madness in it. Rather than this infamous butcher's shop, without soul without interest. What is your ambition? Do scatology in two years or what? You're going straight into the wall. :eek:

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Re: It's end?!

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Tue May 17, 2022 8:14 am

Please delete this forum thread. Not helpful, supportive or necessary. Rather toxic too, if I may add.

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Re: It's end?!

Postby chaudelapine669 » Tue May 17, 2022 5:17 pm

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Please delete this forum thread. Not helpful, supportive or necessary. Rather toxic too, if I may add.



Hey dude, who is the more fragile of us two? It's very hard to yell at the deletion of post. But in practice it is constructive criticism. So if he doesn't belong here. It can be redirected to a good topic. But stop your censorship delusions. I refer you to what the production was doing, between 2013 and 2016. This prediction was interesting. And Giorgio could have gone a little more towards fetishism or situational fun. Colors, decoration, makeup, while remaining in the sustained gangbang. Certainly there is a little more investment of money to be made... But here we see that the choice of the facility has been made. And that's a shame. Besides, I am not the only one to make this observation. Don't be mad buddy :)

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Postby dap-addict » Tue May 17, 2022 11:48 pm

chaudelapine669 wrote:Go back to the beginning of your productions and put a little grain of madness in it.

I'd agree with this!
But not the rest of OP post.
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Re: It's end?!

Postby chaudelapine669 » Wed May 18, 2022 4:55 pm

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chaudelapine669 wrote:Go back to the beginning of your productions and put a little grain of madness in it.

I'd agree with this!
But not the rest of OP post.



If he wants to innovate, or redirect to another style, there is a way. The ideal is to stay in your first steps. With nice scenarios like this for example:
Clockwork Nightmare #3of3 The Clockwork Gang Rules again... GIO416 , episode . I thought he was going to follow this path with enthusiasm. But unfortunately not. He should do decorating, extravagant make-up like the "fetish machine" did. Bright light and colors a bit like Jay'sin. And Sayadian acting styles. But we agree that we go a little outside the framework of "gonzo". Unfortunately, I don't have the budget to do production. But I have a bunch of crazy ideas.

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Re: It's end?!

Postby giovibianch » Wed May 18, 2022 11:06 pm

Giorgio is the best! Please delete this forum thread!!!

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Re: It's end?!

Postby xxx » Wed May 18, 2022 11:49 pm

giovibianch wrote:Giorgio is the best! Please delete this forum thread!!!

He was shown the thread from the beginning and offered to have it deleted but said it was okay.

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Re: It's end?!

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Thu May 19, 2022 4:45 am

xxx wrote:
giovibianch wrote:Giorgio is the best! Please delete this forum thread!!!

He was shown the thread from the beginning and offered to have it deleted but said it was okay.


Dear xxx,

I am glad you showed this to Giorgio, and gave him the choice.
I am even more amazed that he is aware of it and said it was okay for this forum thread to continue.
You are both doing the right thing, and shows strong courage and belief in yourselves, your product, and your vision.

As a fan and customer of this site and Giorgio's work, I felt the phrase "your site looks more and more like a garbage can, it really looks like you want to sink your box... Between the rickety women, the over-tattooed ones, the trout lips, your very disgusting pissing scenes. It almost feels like a museum of horrors" was inappropriate.

However, I completely trust your judgement.

Best wishes, xxxVIPERxxx

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Re: It's end?!

Postby dap-addict » Thu May 19, 2022 6:08 am

OP post may sound harsh, but such kind is supportive critic, actually:
chaudelapine669 wrote:If he wants to innovate, or redirect to another style, there is a way. The ideal is to stay in your first steps. With nice scenarios like this for example:
Clockwork Nightmare #3of3 The Clockwork Gang Rules again... GIO416 , episode.


Now, stories just need time and care and ppl working at them. GIO as we all know tried this by employing Andy Casanova and some films turned out from that coop, like GIO934 with Lola Shine (https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/36670). But in the end sth didnt work out with Andy. Now find a replacement is easier called for than done. And fans advise is sure nice, but in the end it still needs ppl to implement it on set - and it still needs sold.
As a long-time GIO supporter I see a way in the middle by including small typical porn stories the old Private style rather than that mentioned Susa Medusa (was it her?) way. Masked Looters is such an attempt to create a small glossy story before fucking starts. Its easy to implement with ppl already there, IF they play along ofc.
Rest is really also a question of investment vs. higher sales resulting. Its trial and error. This said, yes, I'd still like some of the early GIO days fun and madness back! But is it still possible after studio got so much bigger and thus also responsibility? I hope, but I am not sure its a reasonable expectation. Still maybe Giorgio creates a job for chaudelapine669... ;)
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Re: It's end?!

Postby TomHardick » Thu May 19, 2022 6:11 am

I empathize with the piss stuff, i'm not into pee and i will never be. Right now almost every GIO scene includes pee, and that's too much for me. These days I've been watching old GIO scenes, and man... those were masterpieces, best porn in history. I still think Giorgio is the best director ever, but i wish he could shoot content like in the good old days.

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Re: It's end?!

Postby chaudelapine669 » Thu May 19, 2022 5:41 pm

I don't know what you think about it, but in porn there are many ways to express it. Some think that innovation is just in performance, others will see it in an artistic way, or purely in the categories of sexual practices. I can't understand why there are so many videos with piss and this evolution has happened in such a short time. I speak of course in proportion. Afterwards, I salute Giorgio's approach for having made the separation (piss/no piss, Wet/dry). For my part it could add a filter system in the "Newest scenes" to have a clear view on the novelties.

If not to return to the concept of giant porn. As I said, there are more recent and very interesting concepts. Like this situational style: Anal Halloween #1 Anna de Ville shows everyone how to handle multiple dicks, Balls Deep Anal, DAP, Gapes GIO1256 . or Easter Bunnies gone Wild, Anna de Ville, 7on1, Anal and No Pussy, ATM, Balls Deep Anal, DAP, TAP, Big Gapes, Swallow GIO2145 .

Only here is the material does not follow (decoration tray, lights ect.) It's a bit patchwork.. . I understand that some productions are reluctant to invest in these areas, because they think it's not profitable. I'm a fan of parodies and I don't think I'm the only one. I always thought that in this area there was a lack of a size like Giorgio with DP and TAP.

(Another thing, too bad that for the Easter bunnies scene the guys didn't put on their bunny heads correctly, but when you're a man and you do this job, you have to be ready to sacrifice a little of your comfort, I think it lacks discipline...

Then I admit to liking women who have asses that widen easily and which give a more spectacular dimension in DP or TP scenes. Good references in the field are of course, Anna Deville, Arwen Gold, Linda Sweet, Veronica A, etc This kind of women who make good "gape". I guess it's not easy to find.
You can look, these women are beautiful, they are not stuffed with tattoos that end up breaking the shapes, tuite mouths or visible rib bones.. Personally, that's why I put harsh words in my first posts.
There are more and more models that I don't watch so much I find them ugly... sorry it's like that... the more the quality increases the more the excitement follows with that...

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Postby chaudelapine669 » Thu May 19, 2022 5:46 pm

I don't know what you think about it, but in porn there are many ways to express it. Some think that innovation is just in performance, others will see it in an artistic way, or purely in the categories of sexual practices. I can't understand why there are so many videos with piss and this evolution has happened in such a short time. I speak of course in proportion. Afterwards, I salute Giorgio's approach for having made the separation (piss/no piss, Wet/dry). For my part it could add a filter system in the "Newest scenes" to have a clear view on the novelties.

If not to return to the concept of giant porn. As I said, there are more recent and very interesting concepts. Like this situational style: Anal Halloween #1 Anna de Ville shows everyone how to handle multiple dicks, Balls Deep Anal, DAP, Gapes GIO1256 . or Easter Bunnies gone Wild, Anna de Ville, 7on1, Anal and No Pussy, ATM, Balls Deep Anal, DAP, TAP, Big Gapes, Swallow GIO2145 .

Only here is the material does not follow (decoration tray, lights ect.) It's a bit patchwork.. . I understand that some productions are reluctant to invest in these areas, because they think it's not profitable. I'm a fan of parodies and I don't think I'm the only one. I always thought that in this area there was a lack of a size like Giorgio with DP and TAP.

(Another thing, too bad that for the Easter bunnies scene the guys didn't put on their bunny heads correctly, but when you're a man and you do this job, you have to be ready to sacrifice a little of your comfort, I think it lacks discipline...

Then I admit to liking women who have asses that widen easily and which give a more spectacular dimension in DP or TP scenes. Good references in the field are of course, Anna Deville, Arwen Gold, Linda Sweet, Veronica A, etc This kind of women who make good "gape". I guess it's not easy to find.
You can look, these women are beautiful, they are not stuffed with tattoos that end up breaking the shapes, trout mouths or visible rib bones.. Personally, that's why I put harsh words in my first posts.
There are more and more models that I don't watch so much I find them ugly... sorry it's like that... the more the quality increases the more the excitement follows with that...

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Re: It's end?!

Postby chaudelapine669 » Thu May 19, 2022 5:52 pm

I have try but, I cant delete the post on 5:41 pm.

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Postby dap-addict » Thu May 19, 2022 6:16 pm

chaudelapine669 wrote:Then I admit to liking women who have asses that widen easily and which give a more spectacular dimension in DP or TP scenes. Good references in the field are of course, Anna Deville, Arwen Gold, Linda Sweet, Veronica A, etc This kind of women who make good "gape". I guess it's not easy to find.
You can look, these women are beautiful, they are not stuffed with tattoos that end up breaking the shapes, tuite mouths or visible rib bones.. Personally, that's why I put harsh words in my first posts.
There are more and more models that I don't watch so much I find them ugly... sorry it's like that... the more the quality increases the more the excitement follows with that...

Ofc we all need girls presented in those films we like to watch and can thus enjoy better in action.
This said I get the feeling a lot of long-term users are stuck in a certain nostalgia often and can't open themselves up to new girls coming in. Of course we do also have this tattoo fashion taking grip of general population and thus making it harder to find totally "natural" girls. I see that fashion currently invading Russia a lot. But as always we have to adapt to the new times, be tolerant and find our own balance.
Putting harsh words in OP doenst help against the current of time, but keeping our eyes open for new reyes of hope does so. Let me try maybe, did you really give these GIO girls a look chaudelapine669? - Emily Pink, Jolee Love, Eveline Dellai, Alice Trece, Rebecca Sharon, Julia Red, Francys Belle, Jennifer Mendez...?
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Postby chaudelapine669 » Thu May 19, 2022 6:44 pm

dap-addict wrote:Putting harsh words in OP doenst help against the current of time, but keeping our eyes open for new reyes of hope does so. Let me try maybe, did you really give these GIO girls a look chaudelapine669? - Emily Pink, Jolee Love, Eveline Dellai, Alice Trece, Rebecca Sharon, Julia Red, Francys Belle, Jennifer Mendez...?




Yes I've already watched some of the ones you mentioned, mostly like Rebecca Sh. , Francys Belle , Kristy Black , I like it, those are my second picks, The Dellai sisters when they play together, that's fun i like it too. Jolee L. is one of the most beautiful on the road at the moment. Dee Williams certainly has the prettiest boobs yet. There are some Milfs who were fun to watch getting fucked... But we don't see them anymore. Which makes the LP site a little less appealing to me. We all come to the same conclusion, I believe. This fucking covid screwed up the game. Too bad.

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Postby dap-addict » Thu May 19, 2022 7:29 pm

chaudelapine669 wrote:We all come to the same conclusion, I believe. This fucking covid screwed up the game. Too bad.

There is many factors, not only Covid, and for sure that war now doenst help either. Another thing is big social money payed in some places like Hungary or also Poland. Poland would actually open up to porn careers mentally, but financially motivations are really small especially for young mothers. Same in Hungary. Its state killing porn and also other businesses without even declaring a war.
Look for instance at Hungary as a talent pool compared by 2005, 2015 and 2022! Its a drama! :(
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Postby dap-addict » Thu May 19, 2022 7:35 pm

Btw, another problem in Hungary was always work ethics because porn biz there was always feeding glamour there. Thus fees for more demanding acts already started rising into unfair hights in 2005-8. Nowadays Magyar lany still want to work for Tushy in Vixxen on Spanish islands instead of getting their stuff together. Its a long time problem with Bp, but gvt accelerated it with social welfare programs.
They basically destroyed hardcore porn there, the legacy of Rocco for instance. Its a shame and I better dont think about it. :mad:
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Re: It's end?!

Postby JEYjosbizarreadventure » Fri May 20, 2022 8:29 am

While OP is aggressive I somewhat agree that the quality of the scenes has kinda dropped a bit from his earlier stuff from like 2-3 years ago

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Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri May 20, 2022 9:11 am

The OP maybe aggressive, but the point is not this.
We are living in very complicate time, the point is stabilise the business.
Last 2 years were complicated, but still we are here. So I guess I did not do so bad.

I agree something is missed, but this doesnt mean I am not aware of this. It will take time, in this historical period, to be able to match the needs of everyone requires much more effort than a few years ago.
I understand you want something now, but it doesnt work in this way anymore. Is getting really very complicate, but I am getting to it, step by step.

You did the example of clockwork orange. The first clockwork trilogy, was my dream to shoot it, I did it because of Belle Claire, because she was the right fit.
I tried after to keep the clockwork going, with Greenville and also with Kristy. I did not like the output and also sales did not turn out as it should.

I wrote many story to shoot, but I every time missed the right model/s for it and the right "stability" and "ease" to take the time to do it.
It is still a mess to produce content comparing with a few years ago, but we are getting somewhere, not at the same level of neatness, but we are really getting somewhere.
It is a lot of team job, you can not consider me as a "one man show", but in fact we are a team where everyone has a specific task... we are tuning our roles in the last 2 months or so, to solve the problems.
When we will be really able to solve the problems in a blink, we will be able to work on the details.
I know you are looking for "details" in the scene, not simply "gonzo action".
We will be back to it, you can be sure about it.
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Postby cumdump » Fri May 20, 2022 11:03 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:The OP maybe aggressive, but the point is not this.
We are living in very complicate time, the point is stabilise the business.
Last 2 years were complicated, but still we are here. So I guess I did not do so bad.

I agree something is missed, but this doesnt mean I am not aware of this. It will take time, in this historical period, to be able to match the needs of everyone requires much more effort than a few years ago.
I understand you want something now, but it doesnt work in this way anymore. Is getting really very complicate, but I am getting to it, step by step.

You did the example of clockwork orange. The first clockwork trilogy, was my dream to shoot it, I did it because of Belle Claire, because she was the right fit.
I tried after to keep the clockwork going, with Greenville and also with Kristy. I did not like the output and also sales did not turn out as it should.

I wrote many story to shoot, but I every time missed the right model/s for it and the right "stability" and "ease" to take the time to do it.
It is still a mess to produce content comparing with a few years ago, but we are getting somewhere, not at the same level of neatness, but we are really getting somewhere.
It is a lot of team job, you can not consider me as a "one man show", but in fact we are a team where everyone has a specific task... we are tuning our roles in the last 2 months or so, to solve the problems.
When we will be really able to solve the problems in a blink, we will be able to work on the details.
I know you are looking for "details" in the scene, not simply "gonzo action".
We will be back to it, you can be sure about it.

I can respect this, last 2 years have been tough for almost everybody, many different obstacles, hopefully can get some stability and get back to higher level of detail and excellence, thank you Giorgio!

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Postby cumdump » Fri May 20, 2022 11:06 am

TomHardick wrote:I empathize with the piss stuff, i'm not into pee and i will never be. Right now almost every GIO scene includes pee, and that's too much for me. These days I've been watching old GIO scenes, and man... those were masterpieces, best porn in history. I still think Giorgio is the best director ever, but i wish he could shoot content like in the good old days.

The pee and piss stuff I agree, is too much, I understand some may love it, me personally, it doesn't do much for me, would like to see it toned down a bit.

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Postby JEYjosbizarreadventure » Mon May 23, 2022 4:06 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:The OP maybe aggressive, but the point is not this.
We are living in very complicate time, the point is stabilise the business.
Last 2 years were complicated, but still we are here. So I guess I did not do so bad.

I agree something is missed, but this doesnt mean I am not aware of this. It will take time, in this historical period, to be able to match the needs of everyone requires much more effort than a few years ago.
I understand you want something now, but it doesnt work in this way anymore. Is getting really very complicate, but I am getting to it, step by step.

You did the example of clockwork orange. The first clockwork trilogy, was my dream to shoot it, I did it because of Belle Claire, because she was the right fit.
I tried after to keep the clockwork going, with Greenville and also with Kristy. I did not like the output and also sales did not turn out as it should.

I wrote many story to shoot, but I every time missed the right model/s for it and the right "stability" and "ease" to take the time to do it.
It is still a mess to produce content comparing with a few years ago, but we are getting somewhere, not at the same level of neatness, but we are really getting somewhere.
It is a lot of team job, you can not consider me as a "one man show", but in fact we are a team where everyone has a specific task... we are tuning our roles in the last 2 months or so, to solve the problems.
When we will be really able to solve the problems in a blink, we will be able to work on the details.
I know you are looking for "details" in the scene, not simply "gonzo action".
We will be back to it, you can be sure about it.

Sorry, if I came across as insensitive. I understand Covid has made it tough on everyone and the war in Ukraine is also hard on some Euro models. I have faith you will continue to succeed as you did before! This darkness too shall pass

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Re: It's end?!

Postby chaudelapine669 » Mon May 23, 2022 12:48 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:The OP maybe aggressive, but the point is not this.
We are living in very complicate time, the point is stabilise the business.
Last 2 years were complicated, but still we are here. So I guess I did not do so bad.

I agree something is missed, but this doesnt mean I am not aware of this. It will take time, in this historical period, to be able to match the needs of everyone requires much more effort than a few years ago.
I understand you want something now, but it doesnt work in this way anymore. Is getting really very complicate, but I am getting to it, step by step.

You did the example of clockwork orange. The first clockwork trilogy, was my dream to shoot it, I did it because of Belle Claire, because she was the right fit.
I tried after to keep the clockwork going, with Greenville and also with Kristy. I did not like the output and also sales did not turn out as it should.

I wrote many story to shoot, but I every time missed the right model/s for it and the right "stability" and "ease" to take the time to do it.
It is still a mess to produce content comparing with a few years ago, but we are getting somewhere, not at the same level of neatness, but we are really getting somewhere.
It is a lot of team job, you can not consider me as a "one man show", but in fact we are a team where everyone has a specific task... we are tuning our roles in the last 2 months or so, to solve the problems.
When we will be really able to solve the problems in a blink, we will be able to work on the details.
I know you are looking for "details" in the scene, not simply "gonzo action".
We will be back to it, you can be sure about it.




For the themed scenes that you have proposed in the past, like these, GIO416, GIO1256, 57, SZ2348, GIO2145... I hope there will be more and without piss. And why not also return to women with dildos like Tarra White's style and integrate them into gangbangs and try the handless strapon? Too often, your studio lacks accessories, no film set, no panels to change the color of the environment a few times, little or no lighting. The white of the filming parts is too often predominant in the scenes. The attraction should remain on the woman in the exchanges, the rhythms of "back and forth" can sometimes change.

I join you in the self-criticism with the Orange Mecanic session with belle claire. But your idea was very good even in the style of acting while fucking. But I rather enjoyed this one GIO416. Where the intense looks and acting of Crystal Greenvelle. This non-verbal dialogue with the camera, his interaction was really captivating.

For the rest,

Ok, I can understand that it represents an investment and the resulting choices... But what is certain is that you have changed direction in what you are offering. it is almost certain that an "external element" imposes it on you. LP should remain LegalPorno and not LegalPissporn.

Is it so complicated to put a filter already on the "NEWEST SCENES" page, please?

I don't know who you partnered with or what fund offered to help recapitalize the company, who knows. But it seems that we absolutely want to impose this style of deviance, which must hang around in "worldly" and wealthy circles. at the moment, especially in Dubai... But you can see that too few people join. That most find it gross, or not very exciting. I don't know why you persist, if not for the reasons given above. I notice nothing; not even porn is spared ideologically. In short, it is you who has the last word and who makes your own choices. But one thing is certain, people who don't like me don't see the point of watching the scenes anymore, if they don't exit them.

Have to go back to the start.

Porn should arouse excitement not repulsion.

Good luck...

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Re: It's end?!

Postby LordCrash » Wed May 25, 2022 4:02 pm

cumdump wrote:
TomHardick wrote:I empathize with the piss stuff, i'm not into pee and i will never be. Right now almost every GIO scene includes pee, and that's too much for me. These days I've been watching old GIO scenes, and man... those were masterpieces, best porn in history. I still think Giorgio is the best director ever, but i wish he could shoot content like in the good old days.

The pee and piss stuff I agree, is too much, I understand some may love it, me personally, it doesn't do much for me, would like to see it toned down a bit.


You know that every wet scene can also be watched as a dry scene? I don't want the piss content to be toned down since people who don't like it can already avoid it.

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Re: It's end?!

Postby LordCrash » Wed May 25, 2022 4:05 pm

chaudelapine669 wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Porn should arouse excitement not repulsion.

Only speak for yourself, dude. Simply because you personally think that something was disgusting doesn't make it disgusting or repulsive for everyone. For me, wet gangbangs are VERY arousing, much more than the anal-only stuff that is simply mostly boring to me.


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