Would the Top Pornstars of the 2000's Era Do Extreme Porn?

[TheVulture]

I remember once visiting Salgotarjan years ago & hoping to find Dora Venter serving beer at the local public house!

LOL! I seem to recall that Dora was a waitress who dreamed of getting into porn so there is no harm in dreaming that she would have gone back the other way and retraced her steps.

What a legend Dora was.

[netzerkaiser]

I remember once visiting Salgotarjan years ago & hoping to find Dora Venter serving beer at the local public house!

LOL! I seem to recall that Dora was a waitress who dreamed of getting into porn so there is no harm in dreaming that she would have gone back the other way and retraced her steps.

What a legend Dora was.

@Emilio Buetregrano even sexier, she was a nurse!!!

[netzerkaiser]

I remember once visiting Salgotarjan years ago & hoping to find Dora Venter serving beer at the local public house!

LOL! I seem to recall that Dora was a waitress who dreamed of getting into porn so there is no harm in dreaming that she would have gone back the other way and retraced her steps.

What a legend Dora was.

@Emilio Buetregrano even sexier, she was a nurse!!!

Man, I remember well the day I was introduced to "The Vulture". Laudrups Denmark had just destroyed Uruguay by 5 or 6 goals, & I thought same would happen against Espana. In fact Espana were it not for bad luck ginst Belgium (I think) could've won WC in '86. Until 00's Spain were very unlucky in countless tournaments, including '96 vs England.

This farce put me off game for life...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YBjA0bLFM

[TheVulture]

Man, I remember well the day I was introduced to "The Vulture". Laudrups Denmark had just destroyed Uruguay by 5 or 6 goals, & I thought same would happen against Espana. In fact Espana were it not for bad luck ginst Belgium (I think) could've won WC in '86. Until 00's Spain were very unlucky in countless tournaments, including '96 vs England.

This farce put me off game for life...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YBjA0bLFM

I was 12 when the 1986 world cup was played so it was my first big experience of a world cup (I do recall some of 1982 and particularly the very echo-y commentary which sounded very exotic - like it came from outer-space - but I was too young to really comprehend what was going on). Being from England I was naturally an England fan but I didn't really like the England team in 1986. Even as a very young lad I was quite perceptive and thought that England team was quite rigid and dull. I loved Denmark from the group stages and wanted them to win even more than England. You're right that the defeat to Spain was a shock based on the group form. If you recall many pundits said that Denmark were naive in beating West Germany 2-0 in the final group game. This meant that they faced Spain (who had finished 2nd in their group), whilst West Germany faced the shock winners of England's group, Morocco - a talented but hugely inexperienced side at that level. That analysis sadly proved to be correct with West Germany coasting past Morocco on their way to the final and Denmark being put to the sword by Spain and in particular "The Vulture" (Butragueno).

Some great nicknames from that era. How about Enzo Francescoli of Uruguay - "The Prince". They were destroyed by Denmark in the group. There is a really good documentary of the 1986 world cup called Hero with a voiceover by Michael Caine. He does a piece on Francescoli vs Denmark with the classic line "Against Denmark a nightmare unfolds for The Prince". Ha ha ha! I love that. Great footie era that was. I'm not quite as much into football now as I was back then but I will have the England flag out of my window tomorrow for the game vs Croatia. I like this England team a lot. Good attacking side and very easy on the eye.

[netzerkaiser]

Man, I remember well the day I was introduced to "The Vulture". Laudrups Denmark had just destroyed Uruguay by 5 or 6 goals, & I thought same would happen against Espana. In fact Espana were it not for bad luck ginst Belgium (I think) could've won WC in '86. Until 00's Spain were very unlucky in countless tournaments, including '96 vs England.

This farce put me off game for life...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YBjA0bLFM

I was 12 when the 1986 world cup was played so it was my first big experience of a world cup (I do recall some of 1982 and particularly the very echo-y commentary which sounded very exotic - like it came from outer-space - but I was too young to really comprehend what was going on). Being from England I was naturally an England fan but I didn't really like the England team in 1986. Even as a very young lad I was quite perceptive and thought that England team was quite rigid and dull. I loved Denmark from the group stages and wanted them to win even more than England. You're right that the defeat to Spain was a shock based on the group form. If you recall many pundits said that Denmark were naive in beating West Germany 2-0 in the final group game. This meant that they faced Spain (who had finished 2nd in their group), whilst West Germany faced the shock winners of England's group, Morocco - a talented but hugely inexperienced side at that level. That analysis sadly proved to be correct with West Germany coasting past Morocco on their way to the final and Denmark being put to the sword by Spain and in particular "The Vulture" (Butragueno).

Some great nicknames from that era. How about Enzo Francescoli of Uruguay - "The Prince". They were destroyed by Denmark in the group. There is a really good documentary of the 1986 world cup called Hero with a voiceover by Michael Caine. He does a piece on Francescoli vs Denmark with the classic line "Against Denmark a nightmare unfolds for The Prince". Ha ha ha! I love that. Great footie era that was. I'm not quite as much into football now as I was back then but I will have the England flag out of my window tomorrow for the game vs Croatia. I like this England team a lot. Good attacking side and very easy on the eye.

Thanks very much.

What comes to mind (I was 16 then, 4 years on you) the saying, "If I knew then what I know now".... mind you I was niaive until late 30's, believing in other folk too much.

RE: England... I love the midfield options; Mount, Rice, Grealish, Foden... & in particular this Bellingham lad - 17 years of age, what maturity, incredible.

But unfortunately, I'm unsure about them in centre-back position & England need a Dalglish up front, if Harry Kane is your Ian Rush.

Still, I wish them well. Good luck to your boys!

[paulyshoresituation]

Well here is the thing. Suzie Diamond started porn in late 2004 according to iafd. So that mean when she did her video with torbes few years later, well it was in the middle of her career so to speak. It incorrectly show her career being finished at 2013 because I read article that she stopped doing porn in 2008. That aligns correctly when you look at her iafd movies as many of the movies after that... are simply old scenes put in new movies. I mean she could have still done porn videos till 2009 as I saw some new videos from here there but not sure if those movies were created before and then finally made available. But i do know she had good amount of photoset galleries that are dated in 2008.


I also did recall she was in a fleshlight video and was with other girls in a fleshlight video that is dated 2011. But after that, nothing else.


Let me ask you this. Around that time of when suzie diamond did torbes video with just him, how popular was she? What about lucy lee? Back in 2006, I didn't even know much or watch any european porn. I only watched american porn. I still remember back then i was watching old videos of tera patrick, and you had us pornstars like kinzie kenner that was pretty popular back then. I didn't find out about suzie diamond and lucy lee until 2007 or 2008. That is when i was shocked at how good they looked. Also around the time, i thought suzie was still active in porn when either she was almost done or done. Was suzie diamond or lucy lee back then a really popular name back then? Because by the time i found out about them, there wasn't even much discussion of them. There was more so with lucy lee... since she was still active in porn etc.


The thing is a while back, i saw a very old video of suzie diamond where it might literally been her first porn scene on camera. The guy that she gave a blowjob to had a very small penis and she looked like she didn't enjoy it that much but did video anyway to get popular in porn. Obviously thats much different than extreme porn.


But was she a huge name back then like how lana rhoades and riley reid is with US fans? Because even when i check old threads, i dont see that many threads about her which shocks me.


Well i guess the only person to ask would be Torbes then right? I cant imagine there is any way he forgot about suzie diamond. I got to assume he probably would remember if he asked suzie if she was willing to do bukkake in putalocura back then right?

[paulyshoresituation]

Not everyone is red bolded.

This guy is obsessed with Suzie Diamond. If you want to try a fun drinking game, take a shot every time you see the names Suzie Diamond or Lucy Lee in his post history. Just be careful because you’ll probably be dead before you’ve cleared the first page.

TBH, I think Pauly is a LEGEND. Such loyalty to those ladies. And he got stick last year, I remember someone saying paulyweirdsituation which was quite memorable. Yet he never got angry or bit back.

Pauly, we all think letting go of this is the right thing, but if talking about it helps, I for one am always here for you.

Sometimes the most obvious things escape us. I play several musical instruments & for years I refused to learn play scales & arpeggios. Pointless, unmusical, I said. Only last year did the penny drop that the point of these exercises was chiefly to allow you to 'touch type' with confidence so you could focus on musical score instead of looking down constantly all the time.

The penny drops eventually.

To me Suzie Diamond is the best looking pornstar of all time and that hasn't changed since 2007 or 2008 when i first found out about her. I don't remember if i found out about her first or lucy lee. But i have never ever lost interest in suzie or lucy lee ever. I remember my favorite pornstar back a long time ago was Tera Patrick. Then after that, it was kinzie kenner. Again this is when i was watching only US porn because i had zero idea of european porn. Eventually after a while, i lost interest in tera patrick and kinzie kenner. But all these pornstars i have seen whether us or european... the huge majority being european, i just never lost interest in suzie diamond, lucy lee or anna lacey (priscilla). Suzie would always be my favorite pornstar and lucy lee or anna lacey would be my number two.


Again when looking at porn in the last decade or so... if you asked me to name the most good looking pornstars, two names i would give you would be vinna reed and freya dee. I only found out about freya dee when i saw her do premiumbukkake and thought wow she is damn good looking. I had zero idea how vinna reed did premiumbukkake because she was one of the few very good looking current pornstars which i thought was not ever going to do premiumbukkake and then she did it. I was literally shocked because to me she is very good looking. With Freya Dee, i got more excited because not only was she good looking, i found out she is slovakian... the same as suzie diamond. And in some photos, you could see... they sort of look a bit like each other... except suzie is much taller. But suzie still has that woman look whereas freya dee has more of a girl look..


I mean, girls like bambi, jane darling, carla cox and those other private girls from back then are so much prettier than the girls of the last decade. I can't believe people here mention how the very good looking pornstars now are... nicole black and mina. Those girls to me are cute... and nothing more. Sarah Sultry however is very good looking though. Yet i dont see that much mentioned about her.


Funny you mention about going to europe. I remember in the last decade or so, there was an article where lucy lee was in a czech magazine and drinking beer and said her friend owned it or something like that. I had to wonder like how popular and recognizable she is when people see her in public.


I mean... no one here has a pornstar or two where they are crazy about and never lost interest ever? Again, suzie diamond and lucy lee are two pornstars that are probably going to be my number one and two forever. Anna Lacey (Priscilla) when she had that blonde hair is very close to lucy lee in terms of looks. But to me there is still a huge gap between suzie and lucy. I mean no one here has a favorite pornstar that has been their favorite of all time for like ten plus years? Or imagine your favorite pornstar was a girl from the 90s... and even till today... you still rank her higher than the good looking pornstars now? Because to me, Suzie Diamond is number one and i don't see it ever changing.


So thats why im curious if suzie, lucy lee and those private girls... if they ever would have done those extreme porn... because i just can't imagine them doing it. Yes i know it sound like i put them on pedestal because they are very good looking... but they are clearly miles better looking than the girls of the last decade. Again, vinna reed and freya dee to me is probably the best current looking pornstars and very few here seem to have them ranked that high.

[TheVulture]

Both Suzie Diamond and Lucy Lee were popular Euro girls at that time but by no means necessarily the most popular. Racking my brains if you had to ask me who the 2 most popular Euro girls of that time were and who would probably command the biggest fees I would possibly go with Michelle Wild and Silvia Saint. Michelle Wild for sure I would suggest was the biggest draw for Private and tended to be in their biggest films and generally with top billing. Silvia Saint I think maybe didn't always do hardcore but was regarded as a sort of very glamorous girl who probably sold very well and again generally with Private. Back then it was still possible for a girl to have a high profile career without doing anal, although I think that era was very much fading at that time and Silvia probably disappeared from porn just at the right time in that regard.

I would say that Lucy was probably a slightly more popular performer than Suzie and so was your other fave Claudia Rossi. I might be wrong but I think that Lucy and Claudia appeared in more Private movies than Suzie and as Private was widely regarded as the best Euro porn stable at that time that would make them by and large more popular and lucrative than Suzie. But I am just basing this on my own knowledge and recollection, which isn't necessarily fool-proof. Certainly from my own experience I got into Claudia and Lucy at about the same time and Suzie a little later when I saw her generally in scenes with Claudia (they were a very hot pairing). I have many more scenes of Claudia and Lucy than Suzie, pretty much exclusively from Private and Christoph Clark, although Lucy popped up in a fair few US films as well - a huge anal gangbang of hers in a Brandon Iron film filmed at the same glamorous house as a lot of Private stuff of that time is one of my all-time faves of that era.

Whilst the Euro female porn pool of that time wasn't massive (certainly nowhere near as big as now) I think you could easily name 15 or 20 very top performers who appeared with Private in particular quite a lot and Lucy and Claudia would belong to that list, possibly Suzie also, although I would say she might have been slightly more on the fringes. So yes, they were big but no, they did not by any means dwarf all of the other talent.

[montechristo86]

Not everyone is red bolded.

This guy is obsessed with Suzie Diamond. If you want to try a fun drinking game, take a shot every time you see the names Suzie Diamond or Lucy Lee in his post history. Just be careful because you’ll probably be dead before you’ve cleared the first page.

TBH, I think Pauly is a LEGEND. Such loyalty to those ladies. And he got stick last year, I remember someone saying paulyweirdsituation which was quite memorable. Yet he never got angry or bit back.

Pauly, we all think letting go of this is the right thing, but if talking about it helps, I for one am always here for you.

Sometimes the most obvious things escape us. I play several musical instruments & for years I refused to learn play scales & arpeggios. Pointless, unmusical, I said. Only last year did the penny drop that the point of these exercises was chiefly to allow you to 'touch type' with confidence so you could focus on musical score instead of looking down constantly all the time.

The penny drops eventually.

To me Suzie Diamond is the best looking pornstar of all time and that hasn't changed since 2007 or 2008 when i first found out about her. I don't remember if i found out about her first or lucy lee. But i have never ever lost interest in suzie or lucy lee ever. I remember my favorite pornstar back a long time ago was Tera Patrick. Then after that, it was kinzie kenner. Again this is when i was watching only US porn because i had zero idea of european porn. Eventually after a while, i lost interest in tera patrick and kinzie kenner. But all these pornstars i have seen whether us or european... the huge majority being european, i just never lost interest in suzie diamond, lucy lee or anna lacey (priscilla). Suzie would always be my favorite pornstar and lucy lee or anna lacey would be my number two.


Again when looking at porn in the last decade or so... if you asked me to name the most good looking pornstars, two names i would give you would be vinna reed and freya dee. I only found out about freya dee when i saw her do premiumbukkake and thought wow she is damn good looking. I had zero idea how vinna reed did premiumbukkake because she was one of the few very good looking current pornstars which i thought was not ever going to do premiumbukkake and then she did it. I was literally shocked because to me she is very good looking. With Freya Dee, i got more excited because not only was she good looking, i found out she is slovakian... the same as suzie diamond. And in some photos, you could see... they sort of look a bit like each other... except suzie is much taller. But suzie still has that woman look whereas freya dee has more of a girl look..


I mean, girls like bambi, jane darling, carla cox and those other private girls from back then are so much prettier than the girls of the last decade. I can't believe people here mention how the very good looking pornstars now are... nicole black and mina. Those girls to me are cute... and nothing more. Sarah Sultry however is very good looking though. Yet i dont see that much mentioned about her.


Funny you mention about going to europe. I remember in the last decade or so, there was an article where lucy lee was in a czech magazine and drinking beer and said her friend owned it or something like that. I had to wonder like how popular and recognizable she is when people see her in public.


I mean... no one here has a pornstar or two where they are crazy about and never lost interest ever? Again, suzie diamond and lucy lee are two pornstars that are probably going to be my number one and two forever. Anna Lacey (Priscilla) when she had that blonde hair is very close to lucy lee in terms of looks. But to me there is still a huge gap between suzie and lucy. I mean no one here has a favorite pornstar that has been their favorite of all time for like ten plus years? Or imagine your favorite pornstar was a girl from the 90s... and even till today... you still rank her higher than the good looking pornstars now? Because to me, Suzie Diamond is number one and i don't see it ever changing.


So thats why im curious if suzie, lucy lee and those private girls... if they ever would have done those extreme porn... because i just can't imagine them doing it. Yes i know it sound like i put them on pedestal because they are very good looking... but they are clearly miles better looking than the girls of the last decade. Again, vinna reed and freya dee to me is probably the best current looking pornstars and very few here seem to have them ranked that high.

This is a very subjective. Everyone has a different taste. For me, Suzie Diamond never was an outstanding model. And mentioning Freya Dee as one of the best looking while calling Nicole Black only cute, I could say that you simply have no taste, but I rather say that honestly, almost all the other girls you wrote, I never cared, and everbody's different, with different favs, and that's ok. But Bambi is really pretty. Beauty is subjective.

[paulyshoresituation]

Both Suzie Diamond and Lucy Lee were popular Euro girls at that time but by no means necessarily the most popular. Racking my brains if you had to ask me who the 2 most popular Euro girls of that time were and who would probably command the biggest fees I would possibly go with Michelle Wild and Silvia Saint. Michelle Wild for sure I would suggest was the biggest draw for Private and tended to be in their biggest films and generally with top billing. Silvia Saint I think maybe didn't always do hardcore but was regarded as a sort of very glamorous girl who probably sold very well and again generally with Private. Back then it was still possible for a girl to have a high profile career without doing anal, although I think that era was very much fading at that time and Silvia probably disappeared from porn just at the right time in that regard.

I would say that Lucy was probably a slightly more popular performer than Suzie and so was your other fave Claudia Rossi. I might be wrong but I think that Lucy and Claudia appeared in more Private movies than Suzie and as Private was widely regarded as the best Euro porn stable at that time that would make them by and large more popular and lucrative than Suzie. But I am just basing this on my own knowledge and recollection, which isn't necessarily fool-proof. Certainly from my own experience I got into Claudia and Lucy at about the same time and Suzie a little later when I saw her generally in scenes with Claudia (they were a very hot pairing). I have many more scenes of Claudia and Lucy than Suzie, pretty much exclusively from Private and Christoph Clark, although Lucy popped up in a fair few US films as well - a huge anal gangbang of hers in a Brandon Iron film filmed at the same glamorous house as a lot of Private stuff of that time is one of my all-time faves of that era.

Whilst the Euro female porn pool of that time wasn't massive (certainly nowhere near as big as now) I think you could easily name 15 or 20 very top performers who appeared with Private in particular quite a lot and Lucy and Claudia would belong to that list, possibly Suzie also, although I would say she might have been slightly more on the fringes. So yes, they were big but no, they did not by any means dwarf all of the other talent.

Im shocked by this then. im confused how suzie diamond wasn't that popular back then. Was it because not many people knew who she was? Lucy Lee i figure has to been way more popular. Michelle Wild, i heard about her back then. Silvia Saint... i do not find her that attractive and shocked she was one of the most popular girls back then.


Yea i know lucy and claudia was in more movies than suzie. But they did many videos together... dont think i saw a video of them all three together though.


Yea when you mention private girls, many include angel dark, jane darling, carla cox, bambi, lucia theodoraova, you could name so many of them. But i always found suzie to be the best looking one of all. So i was always curious about this. Now i do recall suzie diamond being in drunksexorgy video and i was literally shocked she was in it... the focus of that movie was actually her... i could not believe she was in that video and of course the guys there were male pornstars. So i thought... would it been possible if she done something crazy extreme like ggg or torbes bukkake... but i just cant imagine her doing that with regular amateur guys. For some reason i feel like it completely lowers the value of a female pornstar if they start doing things like ggg, spermastudio, 50 guy creampie etc. But if its with male professional pornstars, its obviously much different as i noticed suzie done a few gangbang videos with three guys in many videos.

[Pineapples Studio]

You’re always shocked. LMAO…

People have different tastes and opinions. It’s part of life. Not everyone is going to agree with you about everything.

Personally, I’m right there with you about Lucy Lee and Priscilla - they were model-tier beauties and fantastic porn stars among my favorites from that era - but I never got into Suzie Diamond. I don’t know why. She just didn’t do it for me.

[netzerkaiser]

You’re always shocked. LMAO…

People have different tastes and opinions. It’s part of life. Not everyone is going to agree with you about everything.

Personally, I’m right there with you about Lucy Lee and Priscilla - they were model-tier beauties and fantastic porn stars among my favorites from that era - but I never got into Suzie Diamond. I don’t know why. She just didn’t do it for me.

I don't get the Suzie Diamond thing either. Or Lucy Lee. Claudia Rossi, yes. If you're talking Czechoslovakian models who came in tail-end of '03 & 2004, Jessica Fiorentino was class... real girl next door & I'll bet she could hammer several jugs of beer no trouble to her. In fact late in career she did great scene with Giorgio:

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/27754

Claudia Adams came in around this time too:

Janet Peron also, she was actually beautiful:

So many of them.

[netzerkaiser]

Man, I remember well the day I was introduced to "The Vulture". Laudrups Denmark had just destroyed Uruguay by 5 or 6 goals, & I thought same would happen against Espana. In fact Espana were it not for bad luck ginst Belgium (I think) could've won WC in '86. Until 00's Spain were very unlucky in countless tournaments, including '96 vs England.

This farce put me off game for life...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YBjA0bLFM

I was 12 when the 1986 world cup was played so it was my first big experience of a world cup (I do recall some of 1982 and particularly the very echo-y commentary which sounded very exotic - like it came from outer-space - but I was too young to really comprehend what was going on). Being from England I was naturally an England fan but I didn't really like the England team in 1986. Even as a very young lad I was quite perceptive and thought that England team was quite rigid and dull. I loved Denmark from the group stages and wanted them to win even more than England. You're right that the defeat to Spain was a shock based on the group form. If you recall many pundits said that Denmark were naive in beating West Germany 2-0 in the final group game. This meant that they faced Spain (who had finished 2nd in their group), whilst West Germany faced the shock winners of England's group, Morocco - a talented but hugely inexperienced side at that level. That analysis sadly proved to be correct with West Germany coasting past Morocco on their way to the final and Denmark being put to the sword by Spain and in particular "The Vulture" (Butragueno).

Some great nicknames from that era. How about Enzo Francescoli of Uruguay - "The Prince". They were destroyed by Denmark in the group. There is a really good documentary of the 1986 world cup called Hero with a voiceover by Michael Caine. He does a piece on Francescoli vs Denmark with the classic line "Against Denmark a nightmare unfolds for The Prince". Ha ha ha! I love that. Great footie era that was. I'm not quite as much into football now as I was back then but I will have the England flag out of my window tomorrow for the game vs Croatia. I like this England team a lot. Good attacking side and very easy on the eye.

Thanks very much.

What comes to mind (I was 16 then, 4 years on you) the saying, "If I knew then what I know now".... mind you I was niaive until late 30's, believing in other folk too much.

RE: England... I love the midfield options; Mount, Rice, Grealish, Foden... & in particular this Bellingham lad - 17 years of age, what maturity, incredible.

But unfortunately, I'm unsure about them in centre-back position & England need a Dalglish up front, if Harry Kane is your Ian Rush.

Still, I wish them well. Good luck to your boys!

Well done England, superb performance... willing you on for remainder.

[paulyshoresituation]

You’re always shocked. LMAO…

People have different tastes and opinions. It’s part of life. Not everyone is going to agree with you about everything.

Personally, I’m right there with you about Lucy Lee and Priscilla - they were model-tier beauties and fantastic porn stars among my favorites from that era - but I never got into Suzie Diamond. I don’t know why. She just didn’t do it for me.

Im very surprised you and few others don't seem to find suzie diamond that attractive. I mean i know everyone has different taste... but what is it about her that doesn't turn you on? She to me is literally the best looking pornstar/woman i ever seen ever and that includes people i seen in person. She has the best looking face ever and look at my body. Also her voice is unbelievable as well.


I know about Jessica Florentino. She did a scene with suzie diamond a while back but of course i was looking only at suzie.


But yea im still wondering if these private girls would have done these hardcore porn back then. Again, the fact that none of them did germangoogirls or 50 guy creampie or torbes putalocura bukkake back then when it existed... that kind of makes me believe none of these girls would have done it.

[Pineapples Studio]

Im very surprised you and few others don't seem to find suzie diamond that attractive.

Yeah, I know.

I mean i know everyone has different taste... but what is it about her that doesn't turn you on?

I never said she didn’t turn me on. She’s perfectly fine, and attractive enough, just not in the top tier level that you’ve put her. I can’t tell you why exactly, but if I contrast her with Lucy Lee, the difference is striking. To me, Lucy Lee looks like she should be married to some billionaire, not performing in hardcore porn. I don’t get that vibe from Suzie Diamond.

Again, I can’t really tell you why… and of course, I am only speaking for myself… that’s all any of us can ever do.

She to me is literally the best looking pornstar/woman i ever seen ever and that includes people i seen in person. She has the best looking face ever and look at my body. Also her voice is unbelievable as well.

Yeah, I know.

I seem to remember you saying nice things about her once or twice in the past.

*ahem*

Please understand, nobody is trying to make you feel weird about liking Suzie Diamond, and personally I think it’s great that you’re super into her. I’m sure she’s a nice gal and a great fuck, and Lord knows I’ve had “porn crushes” before, I think we all have. Just don’t expect every single person on the planet to agree with you, or to be able to explain why they don’t agree with you. It’s really not shocking at all… like at all… that people have different taste in women.

[paulyshoresituation]

Yea Lucy Lee definitely looks like someone that should be married to billionaire. Again i wonder ... did these girls not find rich guys back when they were doing porn? Im shocked no rich guy scooped them up really quick like before they started porn or when they were just doing porn. Lucy Lee did porn for a good amount of years and im shocked by this. I know she did lot of nude photoshoots a bit afterward but again... did no rich guy want her or something? Or because she was pornstar, then it was like no for them?


Suzie Diamond to me is the best looking girl pornstar or non pornstar ever to me. Again im shocked no rich guy scooped her up when she was younger etc.


But i always wonder if they were offered to do these extreme porn. Again, i wonder if torbes asked suzie about doing bukkake in putalocura back then. Or like.. was it okay torbes know the answer would be no she he wouldn't even ask. So because i never seen her or lucy in those extreme porn... germangoogirls, bukkake, 50 guy creampie and things like that when it existed, i feel like there was no way they would have accepted it.


I mean... of all the private girls i mentioned... does anyone here think they would have done germangoogirls, bukkake, 50 guy creampie and things like that? I can't imagine any of the private girls doing it. No way bambi, jane darling, angel dark.


I mean i did recall lucia theodorova did a gangbang with a few spanish guys and they seem to be semi or amateur guys which surprised me. But i cant imagine those other private girls doing it.


Would porn producers who worked them these private girls back then probably give the best opinion on this matter? Like torbes or woodman or people who worked with these private girls?

[netzerkaiser]

I was 12 when the 1986 world cup was played so it was my first big experience of a world cup (I do recall some of 1982 and particularly the very echo-y commentary which sounded very exotic - like it came from outer-space - but I was too young to really comprehend what was going on). Being from England I was naturally an England fan but I didn't really like the England team in 1986. Even as a very young lad I was quite perceptive and thought that England team was quite rigid and dull. I loved Denmark from the group stages and wanted them to win even more than England. You're right that the defeat to Spain was a shock based on the group form. If you recall many pundits said that Denmark were naive in beating West Germany 2-0 in the final group game. This meant that they faced Spain (who had finished 2nd in their group), whilst West Germany faced the shock winners of England's group, Morocco - a talented but hugely inexperienced side at that level. That analysis sadly proved to be correct with West Germany coasting past Morocco on their way to the final and Denmark being put to the sword by Spain and in particular "The Vulture" (Butragueno).

Some great nicknames from that era. How about Enzo Francescoli of Uruguay - "The Prince". They were destroyed by Denmark in the group. There is a really good documentary of the 1986 world cup called Hero with a voiceover by Michael Caine. He does a piece on Francescoli vs Denmark with the classic line "Against Denmark a nightmare unfolds for The Prince". Ha ha ha! I love that. Great footie era that was. I'm not quite as much into football now as I was back then but I will have the England flag out of my window tomorrow for the game vs Croatia. I like this England team a lot. Good attacking side and very easy on the eye.[/quote]

Thanks very much.

What comes to mind (I was 16 then, 4 years on you) the saying, "If I knew then what I know now".... mind you I was niaive until late 30's, believing in other folk too much.

RE: England... I love the midfield options; Mount, Rice, Grealish, Foden... & in particular this Bellingham lad - 17 years of age, what maturity, incredible.

But unfortunately, I'm unsure about them in centre-back position & England need a Dalglish up front, if Harry Kane is your Ian Rush.

Still, I wish them well. Good luck to your boys! [/quote]

Well done England, superb performance... willing you on for remainder.[/quote]

Scotland did well, pleased for them.

[paulyshoresituation]

Are there any porn or ex porn producers, cameraman or anyone related to the porn industry who knew these girls could give their opinion on this? Surely some could say something like... yea i think lucy lee would never do something like this... but say this other girl like angel dark might etc.

[netzerkaiser]

Are there any porn or ex porn producers, cameraman or anyone related to the porn industry who knew these girls could give their opinion on this? Surely some could say something like... yea i think lucy lee would never do something like this... but say this other girl like angel dark might etc.

Pauly, you should start planning road trip to Europe. Come stay with me for few days & we'll head to Czech Republic. Then we'll track down Suzie, Lucy, & Claudia.

I mean it. I work shift so I can arrange 3 week trip. Should be balls of fun, we can document it.

If we progress planning I'm sure we'll find people on this site who can direct us to the places these 3 ladies work now.

And we can ask them direct.

I mean it.

For me this would be cool trip.

[paulyshoresituation]

Where are you from by the way? Well few years ago, I did consider a small percentage of going to europe to attend premiumbukkake, this was when i saw the advertisement of rebecca volpetti. I use to check premiumbukkake announcements every week to see who is the next girl and if it was someone very good looking, i would have went. The thing is with rebecca she is very cute girl... but not like gorgeous woman. When i saw the video of her in premiumbukkake, i was like wow. But I didn't have that much regret since she isn't like a gorgeous woman... more like very cute girl. Now if i knew about premiumbukkake and they advertised kira or monro... i would pretty much have went. If they were to advertise premiumbukkake now or soon with kira or monro... i will for sure go.



A while back i had considered going to europe for something but i had some issues so i couldn't. Don't want to comment on this but can't do anything about this anymore.



But the last few years, i have been strongly considering going to europe for this. Again i cannot believe hot good looking these women in europe are.



Well put it this way. Look who worked with suzie diamond and lucy lee back then. Pierre Woodman and Torbes did. When i asked Pierre about Suzie Diamond a while back he told me she wasn't that friendly etc. And i doubt they have contacts still to these girls. I know there is no way torbes forgot about suzie diamond... that is the best looking woman ever... and torbes had a video with her.... actually two videos. So its like trying to see who worked with them back when they were in porn.



If i even see suzie diamond or lucy lee in public, it would probably be like me seeing a famous star or something like that. But then again, they probably in their country are not that well known. I mean i got to wonder how people who see them daily or know them through a friend feel when they see them etc. You got to assume many guys who know them somehow through a friend or their g/f or wife etc.. they probably watch old porn videos of them?



But still i wonder if they would have done the extreme porn back then if it existed. Again i feel like majority of them would never ever do this.

[netzerkaiser]

Where are you from by the way? Well few years ago, I did consider a small percentage of going to europe to attend premiumbukkake, this was when i saw the advertisement of rebecca volpetti. I use to check premiumbukkake announcements every week to see who is the next girl and if it was someone very good looking, i would have went. The thing is with rebecca she is very cute girl... but not like gorgeous woman. When i saw the video of her in premiumbukkake, i was like wow. But I didn't have that much regret since she isn't like a gorgeous woman... more like very cute girl. Now if i knew about premiumbukkake and they advertised kira or monro... i would pretty much have went. If they were to advertise premiumbukkake now or soon with kira or monro... i will for sure go.



A while back i had considered going to europe for something but i had some issues so i couldn't. Don't want to comment on this but can't do anything about this anymore.



But the last few years, i have been strongly considering going to europe for this. Again i cannot believe hot good looking these women in europe are.



Well put it this way. Look who worked with suzie diamond and lucy lee back then. Pierre Woodman and Torbes did. When i asked Pierre about Suzie Diamond a while back he told me she wasn't that friendly etc. And i doubt they have contacts still to these girls. I know there is no way torbes forgot about suzie diamond... that is the best looking woman ever... and torbes had a video with her.... actually two videos. So its like trying to see who worked with them back when they were in porn.



If i even see suzie diamond or lucy lee in public, it would probably be like me seeing a famous star or something like that. But then again, they probably in their country are not that well known. I mean i got to wonder how people who see them daily or know them through a friend feel when they see them etc. You got to assume many guys who know them somehow through a friend or their g/f or wife etc.. they probably watch old porn videos of them?



But still i wonder if they would have done the extreme porn back then if it existed. Again i feel like majority of them would never ever do this.

I'm living in UK. But if you plan trip I'll happily advise via some sort of private communication. I'd recommend if possible 4 week trip if taking in Czech Republic & Hungary, maybe Slovakia. Flight to Europe aside, I reckon $1500 - $2500 will give you pleasant stay. If you're interested in further advice we can talk. Booking.com is great for accomodation. Don't focus on Prague / Budapest, go off beaten track. I have free or relatively inexpensive linguistic materials I can recommend from personal experience. Maybe plan for next summer? You really need get this off your chest. There are other guys on this forum who live in Czech Republic & Hungary, who would help you too, not just me. I wish you the best, I'm sure they do too.

[netzerkaiser]

Where are you from by the way? Well few years ago, I did consider a small percentage of going to europe to attend premiumbukkake, this was when i saw the advertisement of rebecca volpetti. I use to check premiumbukkake announcements every week to see who is the next girl and if it was someone very good looking, i would have went. The thing is with rebecca she is very cute girl... but not like gorgeous woman. When i saw the video of her in premiumbukkake, i was like wow. But I didn't have that much regret since she isn't like a gorgeous woman... more like very cute girl. Now if i knew about premiumbukkake and they advertised kira or monro... i would pretty much have went. If they were to advertise premiumbukkake now or soon with kira or monro... i will for sure go.



A while back i had considered going to europe for something but i had some issues so i couldn't. Don't want to comment on this but can't do anything about this anymore.



But the last few years, i have been strongly considering going to europe for this. Again i cannot believe hot good looking these women in europe are.



Well put it this way. Look who worked with suzie diamond and lucy lee back then. Pierre Woodman and Torbes did. When i asked Pierre about Suzie Diamond a while back he told me she wasn't that friendly etc. And i doubt they have contacts still to these girls. I know there is no way torbes forgot about suzie diamond... that is the best looking woman ever... and torbes had a video with her.... actually two videos. So its like trying to see who worked with them back when they were in porn.



If i even see suzie diamond or lucy lee in public, it would probably be like me seeing a famous star or something like that. But then again, they probably in their country are not that well known. I mean i got to wonder how people who see them daily or know them through a friend feel when they see them etc. You got to assume many guys who know them somehow through a friend or their g/f or wife etc.. they probably watch old porn videos of them?



But still i wonder if they would have done the extreme porn back then if it existed. Again i feel like majority of them would never ever do this.

I'm living in UK. But if you plan trip I'll happily advise via some sort of private communication. I'd recommend if possible 4 week trip if taking in Czech Republic & Hungary, maybe Slovakia. Flight to Europe aside, I reckon $1500 - $2500 will give you pleasant stay. If you're interested in further advice we can talk. Booking.com is great for accomodation. Don't focus on Prague / Budapest, go off beaten track. I have free or relatively inexpensive linguistic materials I can recommend from personal experience. Maybe plan for next summer? You really need get this off your chest. There are other guys on this forum who live in Czech Republic & Hungary, who would help you too, not just me. I wish you the best, I'm sure they do too.

When I say $1500 - $2500 I just mean simple living, staying in decent B&B, having good meal each night, tripping by bus | train to local towns, walking around & soaking life in. I don't allow for XXX rated activity. I can't advise you on that, I've never done it. But I think general trip is key for you.

[paulyshoresituation]

Okay you are in the UK. That probably would not be a good location to go to then right for this?


What countries have you been to? Obviously all those trips were for vacation etc right? Did you ever went to those countries to look for escorts and girls like that? Well my dream would be if i could meet suzie diamond or lucy lee. They are probably in slovakia and czech republic if i had to take a guess. But yea i thought if i go to czech republic and see these porn girls out in public... i would just go wow if you know what i mean. Again as you know, i find european pornstars much better looking than american.


I never seen an escort etc. I never been to any of those extreme parties. I remember i emailed one of those sites that do gangbang parties and they said you pay an admission price to get in... you could even not participate and just watch and join in if you want to... i was just amazed by this. But when i looked at that, i wanted to see if they had very good looking girls in those events but obviously very few. Again few years ago, i considered traveling to madrid for premiumbukkake but didn't do it because the girl wasn't that hot... rebecca volpetti. I mean spending thousands just to go there and stay a week or two... i didn't think it was worth it. Now if it was like kira or monro from premiumbukkake, you can bet your bottom dollar im going there. Being from the US, i dont even think events like this even take place before the pandemic etc. And if they do, no way the girl looks gorgeous. Again i cant stop thinking about suzie diamond and lucy lee till this day.

[netzerkaiser]

Okay you are in the UK. That probably would not be a good location to go to then right for this?


What countries have you been to? Obviously all those trips were for vacation etc right? Did you ever went to those countries to look for escorts and girls like that? Well my dream would be if i could meet suzie diamond or lucy lee. They are probably in slovakia and czech republic if i had to take a guess. But yea i thought if i go to czech republic and see these porn girls out in public... i would just go wow if you know what i mean. Again as you know, i find european pornstars much better looking than american.


I never seen an escort etc. I never been to any of those extreme parties. I remember i emailed one of those sites that do gangbang parties and they said you pay an admission price to get in... you could even not participate and just watch and join in if you want to... i was just amazed by this. But when i looked at that, i wanted to see if they had very good looking girls in those events but obviously very few. Again few years ago, i considered traveling to madrid for premiumbukkake but didn't do it because the girl wasn't that hot... rebecca volpetti. I mean spending thousands just to go there and stay a week or two... i didn't think it was worth it. Now if it was like kira or monro from premiumbukkake, you can bet your bottom dollar im going there. Being from the US, i dont even think events like this even take place before the pandemic etc. And if they do, no way the girl looks gorgeous. Again i cant stop thinking about suzie diamond and lucy lee till this day.

Yes, you're best flying direct to Prague or Budapest.
No, I never went to these "countries to look for escorts and girls like that".
If you're serious about really having rewarding time, do consider learning bit of language(s).

[YumYum74]

Respectfully disagree with you netzerkaiser. I feel it would be a mistake for pauly to travel to Europe by himself. I'm not trying to be a dick to pauly here, but judging by his posts, he comes over as someone quite naive and not too savvy in the ways of the world. I truly mean no offense, but someone who's romanticizing porn stars from 15-20 years ago to the point of it being bizarre and seemingly just cannot let go of them or what they are doing (or not doing), would have a hard time traveling on his own from the States to Europe.

[netzerkaiser]

Respectfully disagree with you netzerkaiser. I feel it would be a mistake for pauly to travel to Europe by himself. I'm not trying to be a dick to pauly here, but judging by his posts, he comes over as someone quite naive and not too savvy in the ways of the world. I truly mean no offense, but someone who's romanticizing porn stars from 15-20 years ago to the point of it being bizarre and seemingly just cannot let go of them or what they are doing (or not doing), would have a hard time traveling on his own from the States to Europe.

Great & compassionate point, but I wonder? To call yourself after Pauly Shore maybe shows a grasp of irony that might surprise us both? Stranger things have happened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpL9QCCVGss

[paulyshoresituation]

Respectfully disagree with you netzerkaiser. I feel it would be a mistake for pauly to travel to Europe by himself. I'm not trying to be a dick to pauly here, but judging by his posts, he comes over as someone quite naive and not too savvy in the ways of the world. I truly mean no offense, but someone who's romanticizing porn stars from 15-20 years ago to the point of it being bizarre and seemingly just cannot let go of them or what they are doing (or not doing), would have a hard time traveling on his own from the States to Europe.

I'm from the US. But i actually been living abroad for many years already and still am right now. I been in Canada/Mexico etc. Thus mainly north america. I do visit the US from time to time etc. So I do travel by myself.


But I have never traveled to Europe... so that would be completely new to me. But I know it can't be as hard as traveling to other countries where you have to know the language. I know that when you go to europe, many countries speak english etc.


Well i was considering going to madrid for the premiumbukkake of rebecca volpetti, back few years ago when they were showing who was the next girl, if it was some very hot girl... i would have flew to Europe for it. I work online... so im not restricted like most people are etc. But rebecca volpetti to me was cute but not hard. Can't phantom spending thousands for the expenses for her. If i could just meet suzie diamond or lucy lee... damn right i would go.

[paulyshoresituation]

Is there anyone here that is a porn director or former porn director here? I got to assume there got to be lot like of porn workers here on this forum whether they work on film or camera right? Because im curious about those people opinion.


If so, do you guys think those top girls i mentioned earlier would even do extreme porn like this?


I'm talking about


Suzie Diamond
Lucy Lee
Anna Lacey


I have a feeling girls like Lucie Theodorova and Carla Cox might have done it. Angel Dark maybe as well. Jane Darling almost no way. The reason i say this with lucie and carla is because lucie had did a bukkake video with a few guys who seem amateur but i don't think she liked it that much. But the fact that she did it... i think she might have done premiumbukkake. Carla Cox for some reason seem like she would be down for it as well. Angel Dark... I don't know why but I think she possibly might have done it.


I have an extreme tough time imagining Suzie Diamond Or Lucy Lee doing it. Now i know Lucy Lee has done two gangbang videos with 8 guys and 10 guys. But the main thing here is those guys are male porn actors and not amateurs.


Anna Lacey, well she has done some gaghoes video but this is with a male porn actor. I have tough time imagining her doing anything with amateurs.


With Suzie Diamond, I just have a tough time of this ever happening. I can't imagine anyway she do premiumbukkake or anything like czechgangbang or 50 guy creampie. She just looks way too classy for something like this... same with Lucy Lee. Now if it was say with all porn actors... I could imagine it.


The thing is Suzie did a torbes video a while back and she had two videos with him. Im not sure if torbes did bukkake videos yet at the time even though putalocura was out... but i cannot imagine suzie diamond ever agreeing to anything like this.

[paulyshoresituation]

Sharka blue did 50 guy creampie. I got to assume lot of the directors had to have asked other girls close to sharka blue if they would do it right? Tera Joy did 50 guy creampie and i seen tera joy and sharka blue do scenes together.


Again I think if suzie diamond or lucy lee was asked to do something like that... it would be a look of disgust in their face. Do you agree/disagree? Lucy Lee has done gangbang videos.. one where it was ten guys I believe but those are male pornstars. Suzie done gangbang videos but always max three guys. I cannot imagine any of these girls ever doing 50 guy creampie or germangoogirls. Back then, those sites existed so if it did, obviously they would have done it if they wanted to right? Again suzie and lucy lee seem like classy women where i think doing these things would be stooping down real low. Because most germangoogirls... the girls usually do not look good at all.


Also torbes did scene with suzie diamond. But this was before putalocura came out with bukkake I believe. But certainly most people here believe she probably would not have agreed to it right? I just can't imagine someone that good looking to do it. The same with lucy lee.

[paulyshoresituation]

Would all pornstar literally do extreme porn like this back then if the money was right? imagine them being offered 50k or even 100k. What happens then? i still cant imagine the top girls willing to do this.


Are there any directors here that can offer input?

[squirtjunkie]

The only question girls would have asked if offered is: Why not???

Your fee imagination like 50-100k is crazy, even 5-10k $ would be too much....

[number1s]

The only question girls would have asked if offered is: Why not???

Their only question would have been ‘How much?’

[netzerkaiser]

Because most germangoogirls... the girls usually do not look good at all.

The models are often gorgeous, & better still, obscure. Its the lighting, angles, etc that seem to go against this.

[ToryLaneRulez]

Some of the early 2000 stars did double anal back then

Audrey Hollander
Julie Night
Arianna Jollee
Kelly Wells
Bridgette Kerkove

Also there was the liquid gold series which was pissing but generally solo pissing with stars such as

Angel Long
Ashley Blue
Gia Paloma
Annie Cruz
Hilary Scott
Leah Luv
Kelly Wells

And a special mention to Belladonna she was quite the fuck machine willing to do most sexual acts, without sounding to demeaning to the women of porn (who we love) they do it mostly for a high pay cheque and so if those stars were around today I have no doubt they would be sucking and fucking their way onto AnalVids, I only wish Tory Lane and Angel Long had been on here for some debauched activities

[paulyshoresituation]

The only question girls would have asked if offered is: Why not???

Your fee imagination like 50-100k is crazy, even 5-10k $ would be too much....

Tera Joy and Sharka Blue did 50 guy creampie. These girls are decent looking but not gorgeous.


You don't think other pornstars who knew these girls were asked to participate in this?


Do you think suzie diamond, lucy lee, or angel dark would have ever agreed to this back then if offered 5-10k $ ? i personally believe they would laugh at it and would never agree to something like this.

[paulyshoresituation]

Double anal and fuck machine to me is no where as extreme as say 50 guy creampie or GGG. The thing that i feel is very low and degrading about it is because any average joe can attend it For example even though lucy lee has done gangbang videos... there is one where there is lot of guys... well those guys are still male pornstars.


Doing it with amateur male guys just signing up to me is extreme.

[dap-addict]

Do you think suzie diamond, lucy lee, or angel dark would have ever agreed to this back then if offered 5-10k $ ? i personally believe they would laugh at it and would never agree to something like this.

Yes!
Take a film like DP Fanatics 5 (21S, 2007): One issue later Bonnie Bon did a DAP. She got about 2k for it. Now she was a MILF already and not same common model beauty quality as Suzie Diamond. Lets say Suzie Diamond got offered 3k for DAP than but she turned it down because the act was still rare and she could make enough. Now today this would be around 6-8k buying power and a model like Suzie Diamond would actually rather be expected to try DAP. She could try going the Vero Leal way sticking with DP and 'piss' drinking, but wet she sure would have to do. If offered 10k she'd also do a wet 10on1 DAP with a creampie ending I am sure. Maybe not a 50 creampie film, but so many studs dont get rather filmed anymore anyway, except by PB in Madrid, but that's no sex, thus doenst count really.

Question is rather would sb offer her those 10k? . I'd bet they'd rather skip her and wait until she was down on a normal going level for wet DAP with cream pie ending. Maybe they had to wait 2-3y but if she'd need the money eventually she'd sure also do it.

[paulyshoresituation]

DAP i appreciate all your responses as you are very familiar with how the porn industry works.


Well suzie diamond has done several gangbangs but its always with three other guys. She has never went more than that. Lucy Lee did a gangbang with eight guys. The common denominator here though is those males were all pornstars which is very important.


Now if suzie diamond was in this porn era... do i believe she would do those 10on1 DAP with a creampie ending? i probably lean towards yes on this but the reason is because many porn girls nowadays need to do these acts. But the big difference here is those other guys will be male pornstars. When it is 50 guy creampie which is pretty much most amateurs... i just cannot imagine any of those girls agreeing to it. Now if suzie diamond, lucy lee or say angel dark had agreed to do this, these videos would be a huge turn on for me. if any of these girls done 50 guy creampie or czechgangbangs, that probably would be the greatest porn videos of all time. However, i feel it would also make me think a little less of them. Do you get what i'm saying? Such that i can't believe the most beautiful pornstars of all time would do something like this with regular joes.


Now kira and monro will probably be the two best looking girls of all time to ever do PB. These girls i still can't believe it. Escorting... certainly. But bukkake where any guy can sign up? That is just unheard of when the girls look that good.


i would love to know if 50 guy creampie directors ever contacted suzie or lucy lee back then. if not, my reasoning would be... the director probably thought no way these beautiful women would ever subject themselves to something like this. To me 50 guy creampie, czechgangbangs and GGG is pretty much as extreme as you can get.

[dap-addict]

i would love to know if 50 guy creampie directors ever contacted suzie or lucy lee back then. if not, my reasoning would be... the director probably thought no way these beautiful women would ever subject themselves to something like this.

The more girls you contact the more chances and thus choice you get!

[paulyshoresituation]

So the only people that would know the answer would be the 50 guy creampie directors or specifically the girls who done it right such as tera joy or sharka blue? i know suzie diamond did a porn video with sharka blue.


i honestly think the directors would not even bother asking suzie diamond or lucy lee this because to me its almost like an insult for them to ask them that. Such as i dont believe torbes would ever ask suzie diamond back then... if she perform in one of those bukkakes on his putalocura site if bukkake existed on his site which wasn't until few years later i believe.