Analvids more profitable and qualitative than before?

[zeusanalfreak299]

I don't want to come across as saying "everything used to be better."

I would be seriously interested in your opinion. Some questions have been bothering me for several years. These questions are purely related to the top (10?) studios. Of course, my consumer behavior and expectations have changed over time. But I still have the feeling, purely subjectively, that many factors have worsened. That's why I ask you the following six questions:

1. Have the models become more attractive, more beautiful, according to you?

I know that beauty and attractiveness is purely subjective, but somehow I have the feeling that there used to be a lot more really beautiful models, with a beautiful face, clear skin and an ideal body size index. For me, such models still exist today, but they are becoming rarer and rarer.

2. Are the models more professional today?

Difficult question, but I have the feeling that most models today are tough and put up with everything. However, they don't always interact professionally, take less initiative and are much more passive during the shoot. Maybe they just let it all happen and give a figure that they want to pocket the money as quickly as possible and disappear home. I don't think it was different in the past, but in many videos the models were clearly more active.

3. Is the camera work better than before?

I know that every cameraman has his own style. But I think that camera work is kind of secondary today. I think that in the past almost all models were filmed from individual camera angles to show them in the best possible way. Today it seems to me that every model is filmed from the exact same camera angles. As if templates are being used. In addition, the model is really often covered, by too many male models. More about this in question 4.

4. Are the body postures better today?

Similar to question 3, I also have the feeling that templates are being used for this factor. When I look at 5-7 year old videos, I also have the feeling that almost every model was fucked in the positions in which she gives the best figure and feels most comfortable. There was a lot of passion and a lot more emotion. Today, all models just have to do the same poses, and some of them just don't cut a good figure.

5. Do you feel a certain interaction and passion between the models today?

From my point of view, there are less and less scenes where you see really passionate sex between the models and some interactivity. Glances, touches, a laugh, tongue play, just all the little lovely aspects that in my view are much more exciting to watch than just two dicks in the ass and completely emotionless bodies. I think that most of the videos today are like this: Deepthroat, Piss, DP, DAP, Piss, Cum, over...

6. Do you think Analvids will be much more successful with this, even considering the pandemic? Or do you think that even though more content is sold, the overall sales figures will still be the same, so there will be cannibalization effects between the studios?

[MackZatis]

The Roman Empire NEVER would have EVER thought it would collapse, but......
and same for 20 other ones as well.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I don't want to come across as saying "everything used to be better."

I would be seriously interested in your opinion. Some questions have been bothering me for several years. These questions are purely related to the top (10?) studios. Of course, my consumer behavior and expectations have changed over time. But I still have the feeling, purely subjectively, that many factors have worsened. That's why I ask you the following six questions:

1. Have the models become more attractive, more beautiful, according to you?

I know that beauty and attractiveness is purely subjective, but somehow I have the feeling that there used to be a lot more really beautiful models, with a beautiful face, clear skin and an ideal body size index. For me, such models still exist today, but they are becoming rarer and rarer.

2. Are the models more professional today?

Difficult question, but I have the feeling that most models today are tough and put up with everything. However, they don't always interact professionally, take less initiative and are much more passive during the shoot. Maybe they just let it all happen and give a figure that they want to pocket the money as quickly as possible and disappear home. I don't think it was different in the past, but in many videos the models were clearly more active.

3. Is the camera work better than before?

I know that every cameraman has his own style. But I think that camera work is kind of secondary today. I think that in the past almost all models were filmed from individual camera angles to show them in the best possible way. Today it seems to me that every model is filmed from the exact same camera angles. As if templates are being used. In addition, the model is really often covered, by too many male models. More about this in question 4.

4. Are the body postures better today?

Similar to question 3, I also have the feeling that templates are being used for this factor. When I look at 5-7 year old videos, I also have the feeling that almost every model was fucked in the positions in which she gives the best figure and feels most comfortable. There was a lot of passion and a lot more emotion. Today, all models just have to do the same poses, and some of them just don't cut a good figure.

5. Do you feel a certain interaction and passion between the models today?

From my point of view, there are less and less scenes where you see really passionate sex between the models and some interactivity. Glances, touches, a laugh, tongue play, just all the little lovely aspects that in my view are much more exciting to watch than just two dicks in the ass and completely emotionless bodies. I think that most of the videos today are like this: Deepthroat, Piss, DP, DAP, Piss, Cum, over...

6. Do you think Analvids will be much more successful with this, even considering the pandemic? Or do you think that even though more content is sold, the overall sales figures will still be the same, so there will be cannibalization effects between the studios?

My answers, these are of course only my personal reflections and opinions:

1) Are models becoming more attractive/more beautiful...in terms of pure, natural beauty - the answer is most likely no. However, we have evolved our tastes over time. Back in the late 80s, 90s, perhaps even early 2000s...there was an incredible body of naturally good looking performers. Nowadays, our preferences have changed to girls needing to have tattoos, piercings/studs on their nipples, tongue, pussy, etc higher and sexier heels or boots, fishnet body stockings, and other sexy lingerie or attire etc. The intensity and types of extreme sex acts have also got rougher, dirtier and much better compared to the past. 20-30 years ago, you would not be able to see much face slapping, puking, trans-porn, fisting etc etc.

2) Yes, without doubt - the average girl in porn nowadays are a lot more smart and street savvy. They are much more professional than yesteryear, where many would often turn up drunk or otherwise intoxicated.

3) Camera work is variable dependent on individual studios.

4) Body postures are actually in my opinion better today than before.

5) No, for me there is no real interaction and passion between me and the models. I am very aware that for a lot of them, this is just work. You need to have a healthy detachment between work and personal life.

6) The overall sales numbers will be higher now than before in my opinion. But only AV/PB will know for sure. They have all the data...

[dap-addict]

4. Are the body postures better today?

Similar to question 3, I also have the feeling that templates are being used for this factor. When I look at 5-7 year old videos, I also have the feeling that almost every model was fucked in the positions in which she gives the best figure and feels most comfortable. There was a lot of passion and a lot more emotion. Today, all models just have to do the same poses, and some of them just don't cut a good figure.

Thats an interesting point I've never thought of before!
But you are sure that today compared to around 2015 we have more of a set of positions the girls are to fuck in. In studios like GIO in around 90% of scenes we have even same position fellow-up position by position always the same. Might be the case also in gonzo, but I am less of a gonzo user. Anyway it gets as far as I am already excited if a new studio uses a different set.

This said I also feel a certain user conditioning with me: For instance to assess DAP-ability I always take the 4 core positions, ie. doggy > rc > cg > kings-of-clubs.
doggy DAP = easiest, if girl can't perform DAP in doggy, she's instant failure.
rcdap vs. cgdap = check what works better for each girl, usually its rcdap
cgdap = trickiest for most girls, check for back/spine/head positioning!
kok = check girls own initiative!

It's just an example for user conditioning by porn sex postures.
What sure gets lost is girls spontaneity and initiative, but scene can get shot faster this way.

[zeusanalfreak299]

5) No, for me there is no real interaction and passion between me and the models. I am very aware that for a lot of them, this is just work. You need to have a healthy detachment between work and personal life.

I think they can take it as their work. But you can still show a little more passion. Often you only see a face, which clearly shows that the model just tolerates and endures the situation.

6) The overall sales numbers will be higher now than before in my opinion. But only AV/PB will know for sure. They have all the data...

We'll see if that continues to develop after the price increase. I think not. I think that the extremely loyal and wealthy will consume more expensive. But the less loyal and less affluent will only be able to support a few scenes and models.

[zeusanalfreak299]

doggy DAP = easiest, if girl can't perform DAP in doggy, she's instant failure.

I can only agree with that. But I hope you also mean that the model has not only two dicks in the ass, but also makes a good figure, stretching her ass out, bends her back through and takes a welcoming and erotic position.

I do not want to name someone, but a newcomer of Angelo in which I initially put a lot of hope can not do that. She does not even give a good figure in 1on1 or DP in the position doggy. I have resigned myself to that.

What sure gets lost is girls spontaneity and initiative, but scene can get shot faster this way.

But then I ask myself how long a scene is shot on average. And whether the models get a fixed fee, whether they invest 2 or 4 hours on the set.

If it's 2-3 hours and another one would be necessary for some more creativity and attempts, then it would be more than appropriate to invest the time.

But if a scene is shot for 6-8 hours, which I don't think it is, it would be too much for both male and female models.

[dap-addict]

doggy DAP = easiest, if girl can't perform DAP in doggy, she's instant failure.

I can only agree with that. But I hope you also mean that the model has not only two dicks in the ass, but also makes a good figure, stretching her ass out, bends her back through and takes a welcoming and erotic position.

Ofc! Without bending her back etc in doggy she's not much good.
Hey, I'd like her name nevertheless. It could also benefit her and Angelo if they have user quality control.

What sure gets lost is girls spontaneity and initiative, but scene can get shot faster this way.

But then I ask myself how long a scene is shot on average. And whether the models get a fixed fee, whether they invest 2 or 4 hours on the set.[/quote]
Fee is always the same, no matter how long work lasts.
Its usually 2-3h. But I have recently spoken with 2 porn girls who both had DAP shoots lasting over 8h each! In one case it was mainly due to wood-problems of some studs, in the other it was rather on the girl. Nevertheless it shows that a set of positions sure helps saving time. This said those 4 core positions could be individually varied.

[zeusanalfreak299]

Hey, I'd like her name nevertheless. It could also benefit her and Angelo if they have user quality control.

It´s Nela Decker. I bought the first three scenes. And appealed again and again that she should please bend her back throgh, should please stretch her ass out more welcoming and erotic. But she continues to be cramped like a shrimp... in almost all positions.

Which is not bad, because with Sasha Kray Angelo has given me a model who is really perfect and compensates for what I could not get from Nela.

[dap-addict]

zeusanalfreak299, I have bought only Nela Deckers DAPbreakin', her 4th scene. And here I see that she's not best in bending her back in doggy as well as cg, but she isn't bad either. Position problems are rather created by studs or at least studs are not supportive. Most rookie girls need a helping hand from studs here in their first steps. Here Steve Q. sticks out as not very supportive. In her later scenes he's got replaced.

[zeusanalfreak299]

zeusanalfreak299, I have bought only Nela Deckers DAPbreakin', her 4th scene. And here I see that she's not best in bending her back in doggy as well as cg, but she isn't bad either. Position problems are rather created by studs or at least studs are not supportive. Most rookie girls need a helping hand from studs here in their first steps. Here Steve Q. sticks out as not very supportive. In her later scenes he's got replaced.

That may be one reason, but I personally don't see any improvement at the moment. And that's a real shame. In the first scene, she cuts the best figure from my point of view. But that's my totally picky subjective and obsessive opinion

Once Nela gets bent through and gets fucked in a relaxed way, it will be an instant buy for me. I still think her body is great. But the shrimp attitude is a wood killer for me.

Not how to:


how to:

[Lord_of_Nothing]

I actually don't like Analvids at all. They used to be good, years ago, when they did great gonzo scenes, with capable talent, in nice studio settings. But the constant DAP ruined it for me.

I like anal sex in porn, DPs are hot, especially when the girl is a sexual powerhouse and eggs the guys on and is visibly enjoying it. But DAP is a circus trick to me and an unsexy stretching exercise, as if going to a doctor's appointment with some colon problem and getting a giant anal probe.

[dap-addict]

how to:

Nela has to bend her back of course. But studs have to help her getting into right position at her stage. In this screenshot upper fucker actually puts her arm and his weight on her back to make her bend. Later she keeps that position by herself. If she gets out of that position for some reason or another, avoiding deep entries for instance, studs have to put her back into position. Girl has to learn and train herself to display positions best for camera, because its adult hardcore porn entertainment not private sex.

[dap-addict]

Nela has to bend her back of course. But studs have to help her getting into right position at her stage.

Here are some gifs of studs support and/or lack of with direct effect on Nelas doggy and cg positions:
Steve Q. thinks its funny to slap her during position change, Nela doenst like this approach. In effect she hunches her back and takes a terrible position. Luckily Steve Q. helps her out here later, but its not an esthetic highlight of doggy anal ofc.

[dap-addict]

2)
Here we have a very typical cgDAP insertion reaction with a lot of girls: Nela hunches her back in reaction of upper stud digging a bit deeper than her comfort zone.


Now instead of pressing her back down into good esthetic cgDAP position, studs start to fumble on her pink top! Nela hunches her back even more. This DAP position is just shit ofc.

[dap-addict]

3)
Now your screenshot position: In doggy DAP they do have some insertion problems, but Tiny Tom presses Nelas back down with his weight from the very start. He thus smiths the girl into right position so to say. Not doing this will tempt her to hunch her back again and become a shrimp as you call it.
Of course she could do that herself, but most girls dont have so much self-control in their early anal/DAP takes.



As soon as Tiny Tom stops pressing her back into position we have the shrimp:
Its not that visually because of camera position, but nevertheless its not the intended doggy DAP position. At this late stage of on-set recording I'd say its mainly Nela to blame. This might hint at missing anal talent, but its way too early to judge.

Btw, discussing this video: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/61817

[zeusanalfreak299]

3)
Now your screenshot position: In doggy DAP they do have some insertion problems, but Tiny Tom presses Nelas back down with his weight from the very start. He thus smiths the girl into right position so to say. Not doing this will tempt her to hunch her back again and become a shrimp as you call it.
Of course she could do that herself, but most girls dont have so much self-control in their early anal/DAP takes.



As soon as Tiny Tom stops pressing her back into position we have the shrimp:
Its not that visually because of camera position, but nevertheless its not the intended doggy DAP position. At this late stage of on-set recording I'd say its mainly Nela to blame. This might hint at missing anal talent, but its way too early to judge.

Btw, discussing this video: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/61817

Totally agree with you. I hope all together will improve that. I would appreciate that and buy more scenes with Nela.

[dap-addict]

Totally agree with you. I hope all together will improve that. I would appreciate that and buy more scenes with Nela.

Did you get another DAP with Nela so far?
I might give her another try actually...

[Kaderon]

1. A very definite no! There are always phases where you like girls sometimes more sometimes less. For quite some time I find most of the girls (GG&GONZO) very unattractive.

2. I can not evaluate this.

3. I think the camera work remains good on the whole. The only thing that bothers me is the camera magic when they fake DAP and TAP.

4. In contrast to Sineplex, yes.

5. Euro Porn has always been very undercooled and robotic for me. But I don't have any demands in this respect either.

6. I can only speak for myself - in terms of girls and the urge to become more and more extreme, analvids has hit rock bottom in the last 1-2 years. But as extreme things attract more and more extreme freaks, the sales figures will steadily increase. The numbers will explode when the girls start eating shit and vomit.

[zeusanalfreak299]

Totally agree with you. I hope all together will improve that. I would appreciate that and buy more scenes with Nela.

Did you get another DAP with Nela so far?
I might give her another try actually...

Well as I wrote before, all last scenes, even with dap are nothing for me considering the screenshots and trailers. I hope the next will be better, without shrimps

[dap-addict]

I wasnt sure because of one of your screenshots, but must have been from her DP scene than. I have both other DAPs on my shopping wishlist, but after checking trailers again it doenst look good in all doggy and cg anal positions. 3rd DAP could be better, but I like her style much better in her 2nd DAP. Not sure the shrimp will be a deal breaker against buying these scenes eventually for me, because its still DAPs. But I also really hope she gets soon much better here!
I just watched a few Emily Pink DAPs and compared with Nela Decker... well, you simply can't compare basically. This said Nela is still a rookie girl, she can only grow.

[stewpidaz]

The overall quality has gone down, that’s a consequence of cranking out 10 times the content that was put out back in the day, as well as adding a bunch of what is basically amateur videos from the “productions” of the LP models themselves. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t still good content being put out there, but if I was looking for the amateur stuff I would go to literally any tube site for my fix

[RUShersgapersrises]

I feel the same way. I would really like to buy, but not at these prices. If this continues, I will only buy really special releases that are perfectly tailored to my needs.
As a result, only a few models will be supported.

It used to be different. I sometimes randomly bought scenes that I actually never really looked at when a good scene cost 3-4 TKT. Means I have really supported many models, even if they were not really top for me.

If I were to get a 20% salary increase every year, I would of course continue to blindly buy everything that comes out.

Perhaps there will be a shakeout. After all, not everyone will simply spend 20-30% more. In the end, only the best survive. Perhaps there would also be certain advantages in the quality of the scenes.

Too bad...

I don't know where to react, because the neighboring topic is locked, so I'll put it here.I also always choose from several scenes which I support with buy.This situation of "crazy price increases" leads to it that I (and probably not only I) finally not buy all of this selected ones which they would otherwise buy.It's a shame because in recent weeks I see here a lot of good scenes which would be worth supporting. After a lot of critical topics must be recognized that its a qualitatively minimal above-average period.I didn't read this whole locked topic,but currently there IS definitely something to choose from (and Nela is, by the way, one of the main reasons).And I want to point it out

[zeusanalfreak299]

I feel the same way. I would really like to buy, but not at these prices. If this continues, I will only buy really special releases that are perfectly tailored to my needs.
As a result, only a few models will be supported.

It used to be different. I sometimes randomly bought scenes that I actually never really looked at when a good scene cost 3-4 TKT. Means I have really supported many models, even if they were not really top for me.

If I were to get a 20% salary increase every year, I would of course continue to blindly buy everything that comes out.

Perhaps there will be a shakeout. After all, not everyone will simply spend 20-30% more. In the end, only the best survive. Perhaps there would also be certain advantages in the quality of the scenes.

Too bad...

I don't know where to react, because the neighboring topic is locked, so I'll put it here.I also always choose from several scenes which I support with buy.This situation of "crazy price increases" leads to it that I (and probably not only I) finally not buy all of this selected ones which they would otherwise buy.It's a shame because in recent weeks I see here a lot of good scenes which would be worth supporting. After a lot of critical topics must be recognized that its a qualitatively minimal above-average period.I didn't read this whole locked topic,but currently there IS definitely something to choose from (and Nela is, by the way, one of the main reasons).And I want to point it out

Ok, but my thread is not about price increase, so please don't link in this direction, because this thread will be locked, too. I wrote and asked about quality and profitability in general avoiding writing about prices individually. Thanks!

[dap-addict]

currently there IS definitely something to choose from (and Nela is, by the way, one of the main reasons).And I want to point it out

RUS, could you better tell us whether Nela Decker still shrimps in doggy and cg anal positions or does she keep position fine meanwhile?
See discussion about her performance above!

[beklof]

Good and interesting topic. Likewise,the questions are well drafted but are also quite demanding to answer. For my part, I answer the first five questions, the answers to which are based purely on my own subjective judgments.

1. Have the models become more attractive, more beautiful, according to you?

For Gonzo and GG, the overall level of attractiveness of girls has dropped. But then again the NRX and VK girls please me a lot. Young, open-minded and fresh and many of them really beautiful.

2. Are the models more professional today?

In this context, it is a bit difficult to determine what is the professionalism of making porn scenes? Is it routine or maybe freshness or something else? Excitement, relaxation? I'm not sure. Personally, I don’t like loud vocals or strong facial expressions. If a girl smiles genuinely and clearly enjoys the scene it will excite me right away. I think I like it most about a certain kind of composure in a girl’s essence for which one of the best examples is Arwen Gold, one of my all-time favorites. I dare say right away that her replacement has not been found and will probably never be found. All in all I'd answer that I can't be sure if the girls' professionalism has improved or not.

3. Is the camera work better than before?

I answer this question without hesitation that, considering the whole, the level of camera work is worse. In Gonzo, GG as well as NRX and VK. This strange jamming in the use of a single camera clearly degrades the level of videos. Bad camera angles, shooting from too away, repeated moves of the camera subject from subject a to b, and then back again. Also, I think cameramen’s understanding of how porn should shoot has gotten worse. And then the fact that all videos always repeat the same camera angles and nothing new is dared to try. Boring, boring!

4. Are the body postures better today?

This is probably hard to judge. For me, there are generally certain positions that I hate to watch. That is, the positions in which the girl is kind of forced. Where it is uncomfortable to be. They should be completely banned !! Likewise, I really get angry when a guy puts a hand on a girl’s throat or a foot on a girl’s head and then this is what always amazes me, i.e. the constant slapping of the girls ’buttocks. Disgusting watch it, really! Of course, it blocks the view quite hell when there are 6-10 guys around the girl! I don't understand these 10 guy one girl videos! They have no idea! Not any kind!

5. Do you feel a certain interaction and passion between the models today?

Yes, it is becoming increasingly clear that everything is just a routine. I’m talking specifically about male actors now. I have a hard time finding any male actor that I could call charm or nice. Many downright looking ugly, especially black guys. The problem really is not the girls but the boring and unattractive men! There should be a lot more turnover for male actors!

The worst male actors can be found on NRX and VK. There are these veterans who have made a thousand porn movies and who come to work as if there was a conveyor belt. In addition, there is far too much lack of respect for girls. These male actors should kick out of porn once and for all!

Then one more thing! I'm sick and tired of dap videos where only one cock moves, the other is like dead! Why should this be called? Yeah, it's like a scam! Really! It's not a dap !!! Dap means that two dicks fuck a girl in the ass at the same time !!! Is it somehow difficult for producers and male actors to understand this fact ??



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[dap-addict]

Then one more thing! I'm sick and tired of dap videos where only one cock moves, the other is like dead! Why should this be called? Yeah, it's like a scam! Really! It's not a dap !!! Dap means that two dicks fuck a girl in the ass at the same time !!! Is it somehow difficult for producers and male actors to understand this fact ??

+ 1

This said sometimes anchor does not move because he feels that girl can't take DAP really yet and therefore tries to make it more easy for her, and thats then why he doenst fuck.

[zeusanalfreak299]

Then one more thing! I'm sick and tired of dap videos where only one cock moves, the other is like dead! Why should this be called? Yeah, it's like a scam! Really! It's not a dap !!! Dap means that two dicks fuck a girl in the ass at the same time !!! Is it somehow difficult for producers and male actors to understand this fact ??

+ 1

This said sometimes anchor does not move because he feels that girl can't take DAP really yet and therefore tries to make it more easy for her, and thats then why he doenst fuck.

Yes... This fact was mentioned thousands of times in hundreds of threads...
And still appears in most scenes... a total no-go. In these situations, I rather would see a balls deep DP (ass, mouth) or 1on1 with fast penetrations.

[dap-addict]

I get your point, but girls need also to get DAP-ed in, they need a chance to train DAP in order to get better and withhold true double assfucking.
Because of this I lobby for prone bone and other single anal footage to be included it DAP scenes.

[jjanalonly]

re: point 1
I think for my preference my attraction to most performers has gone down, they dont seem as hot/fresh/fit to me.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

1. A very definite no! There are always phases where you like girls sometimes more sometimes less. For quite some time I find most of the girls (GG&GONZO) very unattractive.

2. I can not evaluate this.

3. I think the camera work remains good on the whole. The only thing that bothers me is the camera magic when they fake DAP and TAP.

4. In contrast to Sineplex, yes.

5. Euro Porn has always been very undercooled and robotic for me. But I don't have any demands in this respect either.

6. I can only speak for myself - in terms of girls and the urge to become more and more extreme, analvids has hit rock bottom in the last 1-2 years. But as extreme things attract more and more extreme freaks, the sales figures will steadily increase. The numbers will explode when the girls start eating shit and vomit.

I could never imagine the ALL the hottest AV girls eating shit and eating vomit on AV.
Yes, some of them may do this in their private lives or for other studios/scenes.
Yes, there may even be a small proportion of scenes where models do this. But it will not make up the majority of the main scenes on here.At least not within the next 2 years...

[zeusanalfreak299]

I get your point, but girls need also to get DAP-ed in, they need a chance to train DAP in order to get better and withhold true double assfucking.
Because of this I lobby for prone bone and other single anal footage to be included it DAP scenes.

Yes, but don't you think the bigger problem are the male performers?
If their dicks are limp, too short, or if their body's are too fat/big...
Then there is no space for movements.

I mean it's a difference if you would use Chris Diamond and Mark Dozer for a Doggy DAP, than two guys who are bigger/ more fat with shorter dicks.

[dap-addict]

Yes, but don't you think the bigger problem are the male performers?

Zeus, I just checked the scene in question finally, GIO DAP Destination for Nela Decker and I dont see actually main problem with actors, but the girl really. Nela performs better than for AGO (Angelo Godshack), but she still can't really hold her back in position during DAP. Looks like pain she can't control (yet), poor girl.
Studs are actually maybe not superslim, but very supportive with Nela, which is more important in her work situation at that very point.

Let me post 2 gifs of first cgDAP position maybe 1min into the workout: There is a constant battle by luckily experienced actor Ricky Optimal to keep her back bent down and prevent her from shrimping.
You see her trying to become a shrimp and Ricky holding her down?

Than this happens:

I still think its mainly a mental thing for Nela Decker, she either wanna do it or not, she has to decide that in her head first, than train her ass and prepare accordingly on all levels requested.
GIO2146: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/161507

[hardanalfan]

Yes, but don't you think the bigger problem are the male performers?

Zeus, I just checked the scene in question finally, GIO DAP Destination for Nela Decker and I dont see actually main problem with actors, but the girl really. Nela performs better than for AGO (Angelo Godshack), but she still can't really hold her back in position during DAP. Looks like pain she can't control (yet), poor girl.
Studs are actually maybe not superslim, but very supportive with Nela, which is more important in her work situation at that very point.

Let me post 2 gifs of first cgDAP position maybe 1min into the workout: There is a constant battle by luckily experienced actor Ricky Optimal to keep her back bent down and prevent her from shrimping.
You see her trying to become a shrimp and Ricky holding her down?

Than this happens:

I still think its mainly a mental thing for Nela Decker, she either wanna do it or not, she has to decide that in her head first, than train her ass and prepare accordingly on all levels requested.
GIO2146: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/161507

If you try DAP do you think that you feel pain?

[dap-addict]

Depends on experience and preparation (mental and physical), lube and dick shaped.
Ofc Nela feels pain here, but clue is to balance pain and lust in anal sex. Her shrimping reaction is natural at one hand but also counter-productive in the long run.
Nela Decker is a trooper, though, and I adore her for this!
She'll be good after 2-3 more DAP scenes I am sure.

[zeusanalfreak299]

Yes, but don't you think the bigger problem are the male performers?

Zeus, I just checked the scene in question finally, GIO DAP Destination for Nela Decker and I dont see actually main problem with actors, but the girl really. Nela performs better than for AGO (Angelo Godshack), but she still can't really hold her back in position during DAP. Looks like pain she can't control (yet), poor girl.
Studs are actually maybe not superslim, but very supportive with Nela, which is more important in her work situation at that very point.

Let me post 2 gifs of first cgDAP position maybe 1min into the workout: There is a constant battle by luckily experienced actor Ricky Optimal to keep her back bent down and prevent her from shrimping.
You see her trying to become a shrimp and Ricky holding her down?

Than this happens:

I still think its mainly a mental thing for Nela Decker, she either wanna do it or not, she has to decide that in her head first, than train her ass and prepare accordingly on all levels requested.
GIO2146: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/161507

Great analysis. Totally.agree with you. I'm still hoping she will improve with the time. Like her frame.

[dap-addict]

As soon as I watched her new DAP from tonight I will write in. It looks pretty promising actually from screens. But I believe it when I see it!

[zeusanalfreak299]

As soon as I watched her new DAP from tonight I will write in. It looks pretty promising actually from screens. But I believe it when I see it!

I'm excited, so far I only saw the trailer. And it seems they shot her in almost shrimp-friendly positions where she doesn't need to bend her back through. I'm sure the doggy part is pretty short. So I have to wait more... I don't give up my hope.

[dap-addict]

5 DAPs later for Nela, what you say zeus?
Its the only cgDAP take, a pretty short one. They soon change to cgDP. Pavlos doenst dap her in same position.

sz2947: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/228888