"Black Meat Matter" - really?

[netzerkaiser]

Which “extreme right wing views” would you be referencing here? What makes them “extreme”? Do you believe that, or is it what you have been told to believe?

No disrespect fella but you are starting to sound like a bad Donald Trump parody now.

"MSM" as some kind of left wing tool to poison the world's young. Please! I know you live in USA and I can't speak for there. I live in England and the media here is as right wing as they come. Even our so called "left wing" press basically sings to the tune of our ruling class and big business. Most young people here can go through their entire teens and early 20s without ever seeing a left wing opinion outside of social media channels. So spare me this Trumpian drivel. Suggesting that BLM is at its core anything other than a powerful social movement for positive change is extreme right wing propaganda.

I don't agree Vulture. I'd say media in UK is very much towards left-wing on social issues, I live here too . We can talk further but you need understand something first. If my mentality was in 1960's I'd be considered a progessive. Now I'd be be considered a right wing nut jub. Fabianism has distorted, shifted goal-posts no-end.

[Pineapples Studio]

It’s very easy to write off people who disagree with you when you resort to categorizing them with cheap labels. Then you don’t have to actually listen to them. How great is that? Why listen when you can just not listen and assume you know everything about them? It’s much simpler!

[Sir Noel]

I agree with Netzerkaiser.
It may be true there are more right leaning newspapers but the idea that the BBC leans right is a fucking joke. Their online news especially is full to the brim with one-sided social justice related pieces. It verges on an "intersectional feminism lite" website on social issues. If the Vulture judges "right wing" as based on economic issues and valuing a mixed economy versus a return to the post war concensus of tax rates as high as 98% and 70% of British industry in national ownership then, sure, The Guardian is a right wing paper but that just shows how extreme he is, not how extreme the rest of us are.

[TheVulture]

Anyway, I didn’t say anything about BLM, so I don’t really get how you’ve decided to categorize me as a “Trumpian”.

I didn't say that you did. You asked me which extreme views in this thread I was referring to and I told you.

I categorised you as Trumpian because of your comment, which I referred to as a bad Trump parody.

I'm not sure if you are getting a little confused or you are being deliberately disingenuous in trying to blur the lines here. But I think we have probably done this to death. I don't want to get into a political debate with you or anyone else here. Most of the political opinion in this thread is IMHO shrieking right wing paranoia that I have absolutely no interest in engaging with. "MSM", "cultural Marxism", all this stuff that pushes buttons here. To me it is laughable. You obviously won't agree with that and that's fine. We're miles apart politically.

I am happy to continue the discussion about the specific issue of "Black Meat Matters" and why it is or isn't a valid choice of tagline. But as you yourself rightly said very early on it just seems to bring out entrenched politicised positions. We've all made our points and we can all decide if we deem it to be morally justified, sensitive, respectful etc.

[Pineapples Studio]

It’s just as well. This entire discussion has probably been a waste of time anyway. People don't want to discuss things with one another these days; they only want endless apologies and submission. It seems almost everybody is entrenched in their own point of view and convinced fully of their own righteousness.

[TheVulture]

It’s just as well. This entire discussion has probably been a waste of time anyway.

That depends on what you expected from it. If it was some kind of consensus or even a calm and respectful discussion then yeah, you're right. But it has worked for me. I've fed back my views to Giorgio. As a consumer that's all I can do and all I really expected as an outcome.

[Pineapples Studio]

Fair enough. I don’t know why you would expect him to change his mind on this, though. Giorgio is very independent.

[TheVulture]

Fair enough. I don’t know why you would expect him to change his mind on this, though. Giorgio is very independent.

What makes you think I expected him to change his mind? I didn't. Would I have been happy if he did? Sure. But his response was really exactly what I expected. My point was to make my point.

Lest we forget, he also casually mentioned that he would happily make a scene depicting the Ku Klux Klan fucking a black girl "if it would sell". Now that I did not expect and found genuinely revealing. Who in their right mind would ever say such a thing even casually?

[Pineapples Studio]

So you didn’t want to have a discussion and you didn’t want to change anybody’s mind. You only wanted to make your point into the void and then walk away?

[TheVulture]

So you didn’t want to have a discussion and you didn’t want to change anybody’s mind. You only wanted to make your point into the void and then walk away?

Bloody hell. You're getting a bit obsessive about this fella. It isn't bad enough that I'm literally on my own in this thread, you want me to express some guilt about my intentions as well?

I think you need to let this go. I've been very open and honest both with my views on the issue and what I thought would be achieved by raising it. If that isn't enough for you I can't help you. No-one forced you to get involved.

[TheVulture]

Is the problem that I wasn't crushed by the weight of numbers of opponents or something? That I stood my ground and didn't budge? I responded to quite a lot of the criticisms levelled at me. How is that "shouting into the void and walking away"? I really don't get that all. You seem a decent sort generally but you're out of line here.

[Pineapples Studio]

you want me to express some guilt about my intentions as well?

No, I didn’t say that at all. I was just confused as to what you’re here to do.

Is the problem that I wasn't crushed by the weight of numbers of opponents or something? That I stood my ground and didn't budge? I responded to quite a lot of the criticisms levelled at me. How is that "shouting into the void and walking away"? I really don't get that all. You seem a decent sort generally but you're out of line here.

The problem is that your request is unreasonable. LP isn’t going to censor its producers. Anyway, let’s just stop.

[Wotan29]

If you think my issue is with the use of "Black Meat" in your title then you really haven't understood a word I've said.

+1

[Wotan29]

If you think my issue is with the use of "Black Meat" in your title then you really haven't understood a word I've said.

+1

(Sorry, my quoting in the post before was a bit misleading.)

[bustylady]

[ryukenmaster666]

I drop that here....

https://nypost.com/2021/06/14/north-kor ... s-schools/

[keeddy]

Are you really sure about this? Did you think it through? Is it really a good idea to trivialise such an important movement (ie Black Lives Matter) in this way?

Lemme guess, you're American mate? You guys are such a snowflakes

[bustylady]

[drevokocur66]

Oh my. You've just billed the latest Silvia Soprano scene as "Black Meat Matter" (?) I'm guessing a slight typo and you mean "Black Meat Matters".

Are you really sure about this? Did you think it through? Is it really a good idea to trivialise such an important movement (ie Black Lives Matter) in this way?

More to the point, what do the male actors involved think about this? Were they consulted? How can they seriously take part in these scenes? Does it not leave a bad taste in their mouths?

I will definitely not be buying any scene labelled this way out of principle. The title is deeply offensive. You really should drop it.

I think you are misreading the title. Black meat "matter". Matter is the Stuff Around You. Atoms and compounds are all made of very small parts of matter. Those atoms go on to build the things you see and touch every day. Matter is defined as anything that has mass and takes up space (it has volume). ... Volume is the amount of space something occupies.

I hope this clears it up for you, before you you get your panties up in a twist, and are forced to reach for another Xanax.
You are welcome!

[Giorgio Grandi]

I think you are misreading the title. Black meat "matter". Matter is the Stuff Around You. Atoms and compounds are all made of very small parts of matter. Those atoms go on to build the things you see and touch every day. Matter is defined as anything that has mass and takes up space (it has volume). ... Volume is the amount of space something occupies.

GENIUS!

[dap-addict]

Just bought all Black...Matter scenes of GIO out of solidarity.
Except Julia North's because I really dont enjoy her.

Btw, Vulture, it's really nice to have you back here. I'm very pleased and value your input a lot since it really instigate discussions. But here you just missed the point completely imho.

[InsideA41YearOldGirl]

The next natural step is obviously "white meat matter".

[Pineapples Studio]

Black meat matter. White meat matter. Black meet white. Black and white meat meet tight ass.

[Cosmo159]

Haven't even read all this it's so ridiculous and I totally feel for Giorgio having to spend time talking about it.

Being an ally is about doing constructive things to support a cause like marching, donating to the organisations that can bring effective change, influencing those around us in a positive way and challenging blatant, toxic displays of whatever behaviour or attitudes you support putting an end to..

Does anyone really think that three words in a title of a porn video off in a micro corner of the Internet is going to undermine the struggle for racial equallty?

It's word play, it's not satire.

I'd argue that this kind of whiny bullshit simply gives a platform for people to air actual racist bullshit and undermines social change by reinforcing the idea in some peoples heads that progressive politics is petty.

[davebowman]

The next natural step is obviously "white meat matter".

Nah, it's asian dicks that are clearly being discriminated against here. Never mind if most of them are on the small side, we need some in the name of diversity.

[customer406]

it's just ridiculous how some people think they have to defend interests that are not their concern only to get some attention.. it's also patronizing, because if somebody is offended, he or she should speak for her- or himself. also, life is not a pony farm, it's just normal to get offended. i don't care for all this pc stuff - and the pendulum will swing back even harder next time, and that will be a problem, but that's what pc-warriors don't see in all their self-inflated fights for groups they don't belong to.

[TheVulture]

Well I notice that the latest Valentina Milan Giorgio's Lab scene is labelled "Black Meat" as opposed to "Black Meat Matter". Has Giorgio perhaps taken note, despite my complete isolation in this thread?

As a result I clicked on it with a view to potentially buying it (I loved Valentina's recent Gonzo scene) and only declined as it was bit too manhandle-y for my tastes. Tony Brooklyn in a 2 guy scene is a bit of a red rag to me generally.

Interesting stuff though and I do hope that Giorgio has indeed seen sense.

[ryukenmaster666]

Probably a mistake. Gio is too smart to fall into the baizuo trap. Waiting for the next black meat matter !

[Angel Eyes]

I can't believe there's an entire thread devoted to this mindless drivel.

[Tito1981]

Good series GG keep bring as BBC meat matter.especally Mike Yves and Oscar together.

[zeusanalfreak299]

Black meat matter. White meat matter. Black meet white. Black and white meat meet tight ass.

[Tito1981]

I love BLACK MEAT MATTER series the only thing I suggested they need to suck the dick at end for every drop what I witnessed is they clean up Creampie but not the dick.

[Tito1981]

I love this series keep it up GG.the only suggestion I have is less oil and they need to clean dick until all once cum.what I witnessed is they don't suck the dick at the end.