"Black Meat Matter" - really?

[TheVulture]

As for cultural Marxism, I have no idea what that is and I don't care. It sounds like something from the right wing reactionary handbook though. Genuine Marxism does interest me and this isn't the kind of Marxism your family lived under Giorgio. Your gripe is essentially with Stalin who appropriated/twisted Marxism for his own selfish ends as opposed to Marx himself. But that's another story. No-one in a genuinely socialist utopia would be denying you making porn with black guys I'm fairly sure. They might ask for a little sensitivity and tact with how you brand it though.

[Pineapples Studio]

I’m not right-wing, but there is a valid point about compelled speech and the slow chilling effect on free speech caused by normalized social ostracization (aka “cancellation”).

[TheVulture]

I’m not right-wing, but there is a valid point about compelled speech and the slow chilling effect on free speech caused by normalized social ostracization (aka “cancellation”).

OK but what does that have to do with this discussion? Are you saying that if I object to Giorgio trivialising the Black Lives Matter movement with this branding that I am somehow trying to "cancel" his right to free speech? That would be an entirely absurd suggestion.

[Pineapples Studio]

But that’s exactly what you did. In a different thread, you called for the male performers to put pressure on LP to change the title.

[TheVulture]

But that’s exactly what you did. In a different thread, you called for the male performers to put pressure on LP to change the title.

How is that cancelling Giorgio?

I would like to see the guys themselves do that, for sure. And I think they should. I'm not compelling them to though, am I? It's up to them.

It is interesting that Giorgio ducked my question as to whether he ran it by them first. Don't you think it's likely that the guys do either support BLM or at least have respect for it? Don't you think that from their perspective the branding could be seen as offensive? Do you think they would be likely to speak out if they did? It isn't really an entirely level power structure is it? Giorgio's basically the boss and holds all of the cards. If any of the guys did want to speak out it's possible they wouldn't feel comfortable doing so. I haven't brought Giorgio's race into this but the fact that it's a white guy making this decision does give it a bit of extra edge. If it was Joachim using it for IV you could at least be fairly sure the guys were comfortable with it. To quote Spike Lee at Giorgio: "When was the last time you were black?"

[TheVulture]

It's not often I have a kind word re GG, but here I am 100% with his right to have the position he has---without regard for who or what "movement" may be offended.
I applaud his explanations and rationales even though I may not agree with everything he states.

When did BLM Incorporated become so fucking sacrosanct that ridicule of them, or plays on their name became forbidden by the virtue police? And in that most virtuous artform: pornography.

It MUST be noted that BLM Incorporated ( the one that got over $90 million USD and NO accountability where that money went or is) BLM Incorporated is FAR FAR different than simply saying that one's belief is that black lives matter. Of course black lives matter.
I have no regard for an organization that has as a goal the "destruction or the western concept of family," whatever the fuck that means. Is eastern society family structure so different?
Even the original founder of the organization has distanced himself from their methods, politics and goals; yet, on Analvids, ooooh better not make fun of anything related to BLM INcorparated; what will the woke crowd do. Are there enough safe spaces for all of them?
I want my country to NOT have open borders as BLM Incorporated promotes
I don't want socialism or Marxism as BLM Incorporated wants.
BLM INcorporated is all of that, yet they do not go after the Teachers Unions that are the single greatest cause of systemic racism because of their power to prevent competition from competing schools. The Teachers Unions produce a lousy product and they prevent competition---there's some real racism for you and where is BLM INC? Nowhere. But I digress...only slightly.

There are NUMEROUS legitimate reports of money being collected by BLM Incorporated for families of individuals hurt by the police that never made it to the families involved.
Why? Where is it? Who has it? But, Black Meat Matters "offends?" Right, we all have our standards... and that is fucking ludicrous
BLM Incorporated is a fucking scam. It should be ridiculed in a free society.

GG, I support your "creativity" in poking fun at this sacred cow. Porn is rarely polite. BLM Incorporated is like the emperor with no clothes and a malignant agenda.

Interesting the way lines are drawn: BLM INcorporated is above ridicule or pun or humor while it is fine to ridicule and debauch another's Christian religion, piss on and in white girls, slap them spit on them, call them sexist and hateful names, but Black Meat Matters is beyond the pale and cannot be tolerated.
Basta with the oh-so-virtuous hypocrisy. BLM Incorporated is rightly ripe for trivialization and mockery and judicial investigation; "black lives matter" is not.

Don't you basically contradict everything you say there with your last sentence? How do you know that Giorgio is lampooning this "BLM inc" you're clearly very exorcised by and not just the general use of the term that you seem to protect there at the end? Wouldn't a reasonable person assume that it was the general term that was being satirised/lampooned? I've never really heard about this BLM inc and I'll take what you say with a pinch of salt. Every well-meaning social or political movement has its good and bad elements. I've never suggested that BLM was beyond reproach.

Clearly again you have some political axe to grind and you seem to be essentially very right wing. And Giorgio's choice has played well with you. This in essence is my point. I don't want to get into a political spat with you but every decision on this terrain that curries favour with you is likely to agitate those on the other side of the fence, this essentially being a point already well made by Mister Ananas.

[Pineapples Studio]

Oh no, my good sir. I can’t speak for Giorgio on those points. He can address them if he wants to, but it’s up to him.

[TheVulture]

Oh no, my good sir. I can’t speak for Giorgio on those points. He can address them if he wants to, but it’s up to him.

Sure but you could certainly address the power structure thing. How likely do you think it would be that a guy or guys would speak up if they had a problem with it? How much do porn producers involve their performers in decisions like that? Is there any sense of it being egalitarian (eg Giorgio saying "Hey guys I'm thinking about using this tagline - are you OK with this?") or is it much more a case of the boss calling all of the shots? And what kind of feedback (if any) are performers able to give about branding, presentation etc. after the event?

You can address all of that without taking a side or speaking for Giorgio here.

[Pineapples Studio]

I wouldn’t have ever used the title, personally, but considering most black performers in the industry are already marginalized, you are probably correct. Talent doesn’t wield a whole lot of power over creative decisions in general. Porn is inherently about objectification, and you just hope you’re doing it in a way that is positive and limiting the objectification to the sex act itself and not the people doing it.

[misangrenegra2]

Why is so offensive that title? Aren't there a thousand of titles with others words like slave, cum dumpster, whore or slut, white, etc etc that could be "offensive"?

These titles are so enough fair but that one you are complaining not?

Is simply a hook for the costumer. Take a look to this reals filmes titles:

- Slave dolls
- Slut puppies
- White Sluts Get Fucked
- Cum swallowing whores
- Black cock addiction

Short and direct, you know what you will find in them in a high percentage. Same happens with that title, you know will be black guys fucking a white girl in the ass until the end

I think is wrong try to find a moral reason behind them because we will never end finding something "bad"

[Pineapples Studio]

Yes, precisely. I agree with your sentiment 100%.

I would have predicted that a title like this would garner a politicized response, though. People have double standards about all sorts of things, but especially in America, we have a big problem with race that we’ve never confronted.

[SimplyStunning]

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As much as I like interracial porn this discussion has been entertaining to me. I knew it would bring out the 3 foundational elements in our race (the human race by the way), the passionate, racist and the clueless. This is porn and like comedy it tends to straddle a decency line that often pokes fun at things some of us may take serious. Lets take a breath and get back to enjoying porn, this is not the real world. I thought it was an escape into our wildest fantasies.

[Pineapples Studio]

So which side are you on? Passionate, racist, or clueless?

[TheVulture]

Why is so offensive that title? Aren't there a thousand of titles with others words like slave, cum dumpster, whore or slut, white, etc etc that could be "offensive"?

These titles are so enough fair but that one you are complaining not?

Is simply a hook for the costumer. Take a look to this reals filmes titles:

- Slave dolls
- Slut puppies
- White Sluts Get Fucked
- Cum swallowing whores
- Black cock addiction

Short and direct, you know what you will find in them in a high percentage. Same happens with that title, you know will be black guys fucking a white girl in the ass until the end

I think is wrong try to find a moral reason behind them because we will never end finding something "bad"

Those are all titles that you would expect to see in porn. Of course they're explicit and of course they use language that would offend outside of porn. But it's porn - you know what you're getting. If you object to those titles you must by definition object to porn per se and thankfully our society - or most of them if you view "society" as a global thing - is liberal enough to not let those kind of puritanical voices win out and thus allow consensual porn between adults to be performed for voyeuristic pleasure.

The difference here is that Giorgio is straying into an area of social activism and none of us know how connected to the BLM movement the guys in the scene are. It's quite conceivable that some of them will be active supporters of the movement. I (and I think many others) am uncomfortable with Giorgio - a white man - making the decision to satirise the BLM movement on their behalf. Even if the black actors themselves did it I would be uncomfortable with it. But I would be less uncomfortable. BLM is more their movement than mine.

More generally, there must be black consumers of Giorgio's work. How do they view it? It is reasonable to think that they might be offended by it.

You must surely understand this difference of tone and context. I'm certainly not easily offended by what I see in porn (easily repulsed, perhaps, but that is a different thing) but this kind of glib referencing of an important social movement for a pithy tagline I find unpalatable. It's the archetypal cheap gag - like punching down at the little guy or something.

[netzerkaiser]

Everyone here spoke from heart & no-one need express shame for their convictions. I greatly admire OP for pushing his case, it took balls. Everyone showed integrity here. I hope thread just dies but we all remain respectful of each other, & from viewing posts that respect is deserved.

Everyone did well here. Respect to all.

[TheVulture]

Everyone here spoke from heart & no-one need express shame for their convictions. I greatly admire OP for pushing his case, it took balls. Everyone showed integrity here. I hope thread just dies but we all remain respectful of each other, & from viewing posts that respect is deserved.

Everyone did well here. Respect to all.

I agree. It is a good debate.

I would genuinely like Giorgio to advise if he consulted the guys though and what (if anything) they said to him about it. I'd also love to hear feedback from the guys themselves - I know that many of the LP guys participate in the forums. I don't genuinely expect either of those things to happen though, certainly not the latter, which is understandable. If I was in their shoes I'm not sure I would raise my head above the parapet.

[netzerkaiser]

Everyone here spoke from heart & no-one need express shame for their convictions. I greatly admire OP for pushing his case, it took balls. Everyone showed integrity here. I hope thread just dies but we all remain respectful of each other, & from viewing posts that respect is deserved.

Everyone did well here. Respect to all.

I agree. It is a good debate.

I would genuinely like Giorgio to advise if he consulted the guys though and what (if anything) they said to him about it. I'd also love to hear feedback from the guys themselves - I know that many of the LP guys participate in the forums. I don't genuinely expect either of those things to happen though, certainly not the latter, which is understandable. If I was in their shoes I'm not sure I would raise my head above the parapet.

At this stage, I think we need Suzie Diamonds input on this. I think this is a prudent suggestion?

[Pineapples Studio]

@ TheVulture:

You lost me completely in your post above regarding offensive porn titles.

Those titles you discussed (Slave Dolls, Slut Puppies, etc.) are degrading to women taken on their own, without the proper context, but does that make them bad or unacceptable? No, it doesn’t, because we understand the context in which they are used and we realize that the intent is not actually to degrade anybody. It’s just play-acting, or if you prefer, a form of role-play. We understand how to put them in their proper context. You indicated your agreement with that sentiment as well.

But for some reason, the “Black Meat Matters” title is different for you, and I’m sorry but that is 100% a double standard on your part. The same context applies as with the other titles you discussed, but you refuse to view this one title through the lens of that context. My question is, why?

And once again, I reiterate that it is a bad idea to bring politics into porn regardless of your intentions because it just invites this kind of crap.

(But do you think Suzie Diamond or Czech Lucy Lee would have approved of such a title?)

[Pineapples Studio]

i had to squeeze that meme in at the end there to liven up the mood.

[netzerkaiser]

i had to squeeze that meme in at the end there to liven up the mood.

Where is Pauly when you actually NEED HIM? LOL

[Pineapples Studio]

He is fully immersed in the hunt for those Suzie Diamond pictorial sets from Private.

(We love you, Pauly. Please don’t take it personally. I’ve gone through my own obsessive phases around these parts. If you’ve been here long enough to remember “DO THE FULL NELSON”, first of all, here’s a gold star, and second of all, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it because it fucking worked, didn’t it?)

[netzerkaiser]

He is fully immersed in the hunt for those Suzie Diamond pictorial sets from Private.

(We love you, Pauly. Please don’t take it personally. I’ve gone through my own obsessive phases around these parts. If you’ve been here long enough to remember “DO THE FULL NELSON”, first of all, here’s a gold star, and second of all, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it because it fucking worked, didn’t it?)

I hope he finds what he seeks. We all love him. He's a legend.

[TheVulture]

@ TheVulture:

You lost me completely in your post above regarding offensive porn titles.

Those titles you discussed (Slave Dolls, Slut Puppies, etc.) are degrading to women taken on their own, without the proper context, but does that make them bad or unacceptable? No, it doesn’t, because we understand the context in which they are used and we realize that the intent is not actually to degrade anybody. It’s just play-acting, or if you prefer, a form of role-play. We understand how to put them in their proper context. You indicated your agreement with that sentiment as well.

But for some reason, the “Black Meat Matters” title is different for you, and I’m sorry but that is 100% a double standard on your part. The same context applies as with the other titles you discussed, but you refuse to view this one title through the lens of that context. My question is, why?

And once again, I reiterate that it is a bad idea to bring politics into porn regardless of your intentions because it just invites this kind of crap.

(But do you think Suzie Diamond or Czech Lucy Lee would have approved of such a title?)

Why is it a double standard? There isn't an important social movement called Slave Dolls Matter or Sluts Empowerment or whatever. That would of course be ludicrous. I'm not huge on using those words in porn titles but I would understand as a female performer that they are valid for the territory. They are not meant to degrade per se but to draw attention to the fact that the girls are sexually promiscuous. That isn't in itself a bad thing. I think we can all agree on that. Most porn girls I'm sure don't mind being called a slut or a whore during a scene as long as it isn't done in an angry, derogatory kind of way. And being labelled as such in the title of a film? Whatever. It's not really a big deal to them is it?

I don't even mind that black guys are objectified in porn based on their skin colour. Again I think they understand that. It's also a compliment in some ways. This is a very specific thing based on veering out of the porn world and into something more fundamentally close to home for a lot of people.

A better analogy would be if porn satirised a feminine movement in some way. Put the girls in the role of the feminists but had them being submissive fuck dolls or something with the guys doling out "revenge" or putting them in their place or something. That would I think be offensive beyond the girls in question and towards the idea of feminism in some way. I suspect some girls would be happy to do it but a lot probably wouldn't, especially the more cerebral kind who (rightly) would think that there is no contradiction between being a feminist and a porn star. If they're not being exploited then I certainly see no contradiction there. I'm not a feminist (obviously) and I'm not precious about feminist movements but again I would say that satirising a movement of that kind that is important to very many people would just be very poor form and a cheap shot and correctly open you up to criticism. More generally it speaks badly of those who feel they have to resort to that sort of "shock tactic" stuff just to make a buck. It would be shoddy, lowest common denominator stuff.

[netzerkaiser]

@ TheVulture:

You lost me completely in your post above regarding offensive porn titles.

Those titles you discussed (Slave Dolls, Slut Puppies, etc.) are degrading to women taken on their own, without the proper context, but does that make them bad or unacceptable? No, it doesn’t, because we understand the context in which they are used and we realize that the intent is not actually to degrade anybody. It’s just play-acting, or if you prefer, a form of role-play. We understand how to put them in their proper context. You indicated your agreement with that sentiment as well.

But for some reason, the “Black Meat Matters” title is different for you, and I’m sorry but that is 100% a double standard on your part. The same context applies as with the other titles you discussed, but you refuse to view this one title through the lens of that context. My question is, why?

And once again, I reiterate that it is a bad idea to bring politics into porn regardless of your intentions because it just invites this kind of crap.

(But do you think Suzie Diamond or Czech Lucy Lee would have approved of such a title?)

Why is it a double standard? There isn't an important social movement called Slave Dolls Matter or Sluts Empowerment or whatever. That would of course be ludicrous. I'm not huge on using those words in porn titles but I would understand as a female performer that they are valid for the territory. They are not meant to degrade per se but to draw attention to the fact that the girls are sexually promiscuous. That isn't in itself a bad thing. I think we can all agree on that. Most porn girls I'm sure don't mind being called a slut or a whore during a scene as long as it isn't done in an angry, derogatory kind of way. And being labelled as such in the title of a film? Whatever. It's not really a big deal to them is it?

I don't even mind that black guys are objectified in porn based on their skin colour. Again I think they understand that. It's also a compliment in some ways. This is a very specific thing based on veering out of the porn world and into something more fundamentally close to home for a lot of people.

A better analogy would be if porn satirised a feminine movement in some way. Put the girls in the role of the feminists but had them being submissive fuck dolls or something with the guys doling out "revenge" or putting them in their place or something. That would I think be offensive beyond the girls in question and towards the idea of feminism in some way. I suspect some girls would be happy to do it but a lot probably wouldn't, especially the more cerebral kind who (rightly) would think that there is no contradiction between being a feminist and a porn star. If they're not being exploited then I certainly see no contradiction there. I'm not a feminist (obviously) and I'm not precious about feminist movements but again I would say that satirising a movement of that kind that is important to very many people would just be very poor form and a cheap shot and correctly open you up to criticism. More generally it speaks badly of those who feel they have to resort to that sort of "shock tactic" stuff just to make a buck. It would be shoddy, lowest common denominator stuff.

Brother, from British level, Fabianism;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

European level: Frankfurt school:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

A lot of this is heavy stuff, but both articles are worth reading & consuming.

How much of 'social injustice' in your head is formed by your life experience vs what media / society has told you is your life experience? Thats step 1.

No one can deny social order pre-WWI was all wrong. But today we've gone opposite extreme & that too is all wrong.

Man, due to environmental problems with house I haven't had TV for 5-6 years now which has limited my exposure to MSM propaganda just to work environment, where it all rings out more hollower still.

Be careful to distinguish between what fills your head via nature & what fills your head via what you're told SHOULD fill your head via MSM.

[netzerkaiser]

@ TheVulture:

You lost me completely in your post above regarding offensive porn titles.

Those titles you discussed (Slave Dolls, Slut Puppies, etc.) are degrading to women taken on their own, without the proper context, but does that make them bad or unacceptable? No, it doesn’t, because we understand the context in which they are used and we realize that the intent is not actually to degrade anybody. It’s just play-acting, or if you prefer, a form of role-play. We understand how to put them in their proper context. You indicated your agreement with that sentiment as well.

But for some reason, the “Black Meat Matters” title is different for you, and I’m sorry but that is 100% a double standard on your part. The same context applies as with the other titles you discussed, but you refuse to view this one title through the lens of that context. My question is, why?

And once again, I reiterate that it is a bad idea to bring politics into porn regardless of your intentions because it just invites this kind of crap.

(But do you think Suzie Diamond or Czech Lucy Lee would have approved of such a title?)

Why is it a double standard? There isn't an important social movement called Slave Dolls Matter or Sluts Empowerment or whatever. That would of course be ludicrous. I'm not huge on using those words in porn titles but I would understand as a female performer that they are valid for the territory. They are not meant to degrade per se but to draw attention to the fact that the girls are sexually promiscuous. That isn't in itself a bad thing. I think we can all agree on that. Most porn girls I'm sure don't mind being called a slut or a whore during a scene as long as it isn't done in an angry, derogatory kind of way. And being labelled as such in the title of a film? Whatever. It's not really a big deal to them is it?

I don't even mind that black guys are objectified in porn based on their skin colour. Again I think they understand that. It's also a compliment in some ways. This is a very specific thing based on veering out of the porn world and into something more fundamentally close to home for a lot of people.

A better analogy would be if porn satirised a feminine movement in some way. Put the girls in the role of the feminists but had them being submissive fuck dolls or something with the guys doling out "revenge" or putting them in their place or something. That would I think be offensive beyond the girls in question and towards the idea of feminism in some way. I suspect some girls would be happy to do it but a lot probably wouldn't, especially the more cerebral kind who (rightly) would think that there is no contradiction between being a feminist and a porn star. If they're not being exploited then I certainly see no contradiction there. I'm not a feminist (obviously) and I'm not precious about feminist movements but again I would say that satirising a movement of that kind that is important to very many people would just be very poor form and a cheap shot and correctly open you up to criticism. More generally it speaks badly of those who feel they have to resort to that sort of "shock tactic" stuff just to make a buck. It would be shoddy, lowest common denominator stuff.

Brother, from British level, Fabianism;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

European level: Frankfurt school:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

A lot of this is heavy stuff, but both articles are worth reading & consuming.

How much of 'social injustice' in your head is formed by your life experience vs what media / society has told you is your life experience? Thats step 1.

No one can deny social order pre-WWI was all wrong. But today we've gone opposite extreme & that too is all wrong.

Man, due to environmental problems with house I haven't had TV for 5-6 years now which has limited my exposure to MSM propaganda just to work environment, where it all rings out more hollower still.

Be careful to distinguish between what fills your head via nature & what fills your head via what you're told SHOULD fill your head via MSM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LrxYds2UNE

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLxpNiF0YKs

Thats where i am anyways...

[Giorgio Grandi]

I am sincerely using the title because it looks very cool and it sounds nice and it makes a lot of sense in the differences between white and black boys (just the question: does size matter?).

Come on - again you're losing credibility here. This is your 4th post or whatever and it's the 1st time you have linked the title to the size of the guy's dicks. And how is that even credible? Black Meat Matter(s). That has nothing to do with dick size.

There's nothing complicated about this. You're aware of the movement Black Lives Matter and you've gone "Hey I make porn with black guys. So I'll use the tag Black Meat Matter(s). That'll be snappy/funny/hip/topical/whatever". Just leave it at that. The more you add these extra layers the more suspicious it all becomes.

Look, you did not ask me the meaning, you insinuate I should get the approval of the actors and it is bad taste.

"Black Meat Porn" gives handless results on google.

"Black Meat" is used in many porn movies, from 2005 more or less, here some titles
Black Meat White Feet (1 to...) Dog Fart
Super Dark Monster Black Meat - Hustler
Eat My Black Meat (1 to 10 or more) - Cinema Play
Giants Black Meat White Treat (1 to...) - Sudden Impact

The rest I already explained.

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I have the impression to replay to the message of a Baizuo that try in every way to upset a simple reality into a political trip.
There are no hidden messages.

The title sound cool, has the right keyword structure and makes sense. This is factual, it is not a point of view.

Regarding the black boys involved, the only think that could apparently make sense in your OP, the answer is simple. We are not here doing politic.
I am not politically involved. Their personal political view is their own, they do not need to share it with me as I do not care at all.
They can be communist of nazi, I do not give a shit. The only point is that under my roof I do not need any political shit or activism, we are here to work and for anything else.

the respect goes in both way, it is not only me who have the freedom to think as I wish, but also them.
If they have a problem they can came to my office and talk about it, they know they can. We solved much complicated personal issues in the past.

The true is that also black ppl have the right do not give a shit about any activism.
Here, at my place, no one discriminate black ppl, they have more problems between each other than with ppl with a different color of the skin.
We are here to work and to make time profitable.
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The main points for join a political activism are Ideology and Struggle or both imho.
Black actors here struggle with money because sometimes are not able to handle their money, not because they are exploited.
About ideology, it is their business, under my roof activism is not welcome, I do not want any fucking propaganda when ppl need to focus on the job, but I do not have problem if when they are out of here they do propaganda or go to crucify christians.
I highlight this: if there is a problem we solve it, if there are no problems we work to avoid problems.

The black guys did not point any problem about it. If they would, I can consider their opinion. Each black guy here, like all white guys, love to stand for himself, because they know they can discuss their problems with me without the need to group together and make a strike.
I am the one that represented them in the past, during problematic months for HIV and Syphilis, as imho the interest of the actors are the interest of the producer, but this is another topic.

Enjoy the content and support the good work, this is the best thing you can do in the interest of the performers, all of them.
Your point "I do not buy because the title is not politically correct", penalise the performer more than me. You basically say "I do not support this actors because I think they should stand in front of Giorgio regarding the title of the scene as I believe there is a problem"
You are right, you are the one having problems, not them.

For me the topic is closed.

[ryukenmaster666]

I hope to see more titles like that, just to see the self hating no critical thinking wokes to go banana !

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwyFTRGiIUU

Over.

[bustylady]

Not over yet..?

[ryukenmaster666]

Not over yet..?

We can elevate the discussion by realizing how chess is racist cause it is always white that starts. I am curious to hear the baizuo about that terrible social issue.

[Sir Noel]

I think the very fact that BLM IS a political movement, whose ideology extends way beyond simply a dedication to end racism when black people are on the receiving end of it, makes it MORE fair game, not less.
And to be clear: BLM are not simply coincidentally anti-capitalist, they espouse the view that black people will never be equal under capitalism and that capitalism is therefore
effectively the causal maintainer of systematic racism and those who are pro-capitalism are therefore responsible for maintaining anti-black racism (not to mention the inherent racism if low expectations to suggest that black people are incapable of succeeding, as a group, unless we employ some kind of equity socialism and abandon any pretence of meritocracy)
That is a very serious political claim and a very serious accusation for them to level at huge numbers of people (including very many black people).
Quite why you'd be happy to read years of dodgy titles about "African champagne", "black bulls" etc yet suddenly have a damascus conversion over this silly pun title I will never understand.

[Sir Noel]

PS: with not wanting to have videos with such titles in your collection a little pro tip.
If you mouse over your ewly downloaded file and right-click(in Windows) then LEFT click on "rename" you can actually give the scene a different title. Simply perform the above actions then type in the new title of your choice.
Could I suggest " Greatly Respected Performers of Colour Anally Fuck White Trash Slut"
or
"Pale Fuck Slut Endures Hard Double Anal From Well Respected Gentlemen of Sub-Saharan Ethnic Origins"

[Pineapples Studio]

”Greatly Respected Performers of Colour Anally Fuck White Trash Slut"
or
"Pale Fuck Slut Endures Hard Double Anal From Well Respected Gentlemen of Sub-Saharan Ethnic Origins"

Giorgio, do it as a joke next time!

[TheVulture]

"Black Meat Porn" gives handless results on google.

"Black Meat" is used in many porn movies, from 2005 more or less, here some titles
Black Meat White Feet (1 to...) Dog Fart
Super Dark Monster Black Meat - Hustler
Eat My Black Meat (1 to 10 or more) - Cinema Play
Giants Black Meat White Treat (1 to...) - Sudden Impact

If you think my issue is with the use of "Black Meat" in your title then you really haven't understood a word I've said.

[TheVulture]

That you are offended by a black man reduced to his "meat" is not an issue for me.

Again, you clearly haven't understood my position.

Hearing you rail about "Antifa" basically makes you sound like Donald Trump. The sheer weight of extreme right wing views in this thread made by people supporting the use of this tag line IMHO proves my point entirely. For me it is dog whistling to a very nasty demographic and the proof of the pudding is exactly what we see here.

[Pineapples Studio]

The sheer weight of extreme right wing views in this thread made by people supporting the use of this tag line IMHO proves my point entirely.

Which “extreme right wing views” would you be referencing here? What makes them “extreme”? Do you believe that, or is it what you have been told to believe?

[TheVulture]

Which “extreme right wing views” would you be referencing here? What makes them “extreme”? Do you believe that, or is it what you have been told to believe?

No disrespect fella but you are starting to sound like a bad Donald Trump parody now.

"MSM" as some kind of left wing tool to poison the world's young. Please! I know you live in USA and I can't speak for there. I live in England and the media here is as right wing as they come. Even our so called "left wing" press basically sings to the tune of our ruling class and big business. Most young people here can go through their entire teens and early 20s without ever seeing a left wing opinion outside of social media channels. So spare me this Trumpian drivel. Suggesting that BLM is at its core anything other than a powerful social movement for positive change is extreme right wing propaganda.

[Pineapples Studio]

What are you basing that on? That sounds more like dogma than thought.

I don’t see the world in terms of left and right. Reality is more nuanced than that. For sure, I can tell you that I am wary of any mainstream political institution, regardless of its stated ideology or allegiance.

[Pineapples Studio]

Anyway, I didn’t say anything about BLM, so I don’t really get how you’ve decided to categorize me as a “Trumpian”. No disrespect, though.

We wouldn’t want that.