Why this nonsense about starting with 1-1?

[grey00owl]

- if sales are good, means the model has an audience, so it means she can sell properly without DAP for some scenes, so to maximize profit is better to continue with DP and other stuff before the DAP (and to maximize the turnover of the model)

And dont tell me that a scene with more boys and dap would give more sales and give more value to the model, because I am not stupid and I know about it.
We dont need only models selling because of the sexual act and selection needs to start at some point and until someone wont came up with a better idea this is how it is (this is what a forum should be, share suggestions to solve problems or change methods, not to rant about everything doesnt match you taste.

OUT OF TOPIC
I know, for you I am the arrogant one dont bother to tell me about that, I know how many of you think about us in this way.
I am the one taking the risk to produce the content so I have all the right to do what the fuck I believe is better (and numbers tell I am right otherwise I wont be where I am), make suggestions is different than just complain about what you do not like.
To complain you do not like this or that, is just pointless. If we do it is because there is a majority of users that likes it, we cant please everyone

Thank you ,Giorgio, for your comprehensive explanation! I found sometimes your tone arrogant, but I appreciate that you take your time to ask the users and make clear your position and choices: this is honest and fair. I find what you say here very reasonable.

edit: to ask=to answer

[Giorgio Grandi]

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Check this
https://pornbox.com/application#model/list
Page 1 and 2 and 3, there are several 35-40 years models that are worth more than many 18yo.

I wont deny that there are certainly some mature models that sell better than their younger competition. But they are in the minority.
The 3 first pages contain 120 models and i count only 8 or 9 matures there, and half of them are on page 3. Only on the first page i can count 8, 18/19 yo models (or who where 18/19 in their first scenes).

Said that, how many 40 years models are released at LP: a minority compare on under 30, so why even the topic when there is absolutely not much mature as it should be?
It doesnt even make sense and this is why it is also insignificant.
"oh my good, there are many 40 y.o. models", where the fuck are the releases?

There have been quite a lot of them in the last few years. It would be interesting to see some statistics about it.

Here are a few that have been booked again and again for many scenes each, despite average sales at best.

https://www.legalporno.com/model/6718/adeline_lafouine
https://www.legalporno.com/model/5100/valentina_sierra
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3812/sasha_colibri
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3355/kessie_shy
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3855/xxx_nikyta
https://www.legalporno.com/model/5487/julia_north
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3549/didevi

The list could have been made longer but i think i get the point across.

Hello again.
I do not really want to comment what other studios are releasing, but in general I think this:
In normal time LP release like 70-80 premium scenes/month, dunno how to tell you that 5-7 releases with mature girls are more than justified, not invasive and for sure does not mean releases are focused on 40 y.o girls.
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Repeating of models, with 40+ scenes, is just a simple consequence of what the audience purchases.
Really, I think you really have to wrap your mind about it: many silent users do not write in the forum at all, but purchase the scenes. So if for example we release 40+ scenes with the model AAA, and it sells, we will continue to release her scenes. It doesnt match your taste? I am sorry about that, try to see it in this way.

How many years ford is selling a fucking F150? They did a restyling every 2-3 years, but it is still a damn F150.
Maybe you buy it one time and than you buy another car, there is people that buy only the F150.

So, I dont get the reason why we should not release content with a model that sells or why it should be considered as something negative. It is totally without any sense.

[dap-addict]

To close the topic: first scene(s) of a model have the meaning to test the audience.
So why to invest 4500$ for a DAP when it is possible to make a test with a BGa that costs 1/2 or so?

With this point i fully agree!
Thank you, Giorgio, for all your explanations.
I shall think it over!

Just 1 question: So does it mean when you released 1 porn scenes being DAP by Nicole Black and also by Mai Thai that both were girls with no audience? Or why than did you shoot DAP as their 1st scene?

Because the audience at that moment was very different. Anything else than DAP would have been just wasting of time.
Audience is very different now, content without DAP can make enough sales to indicate potential of a model and eventually even make good profit.
When it doesnt make profit, with small investment is possible to understand if is worth to work on the developing of a model or not.

Example is Polina Maxim, a model that sells only under some very defined conditions (that are not connected to the sexual act), something we would not understand just shooting a DAP right away.
Said that, without several "no dap" scene, we would not have her even on LP as to bring her to DAP took time.

So, who watch only DAP, was able to get the DAP of Polina just because others supported her on other scenes. If you got her DAP, you need to say thank you to who watched her DP previously.

Thanks for taking your time to explain again, Giorgio.
Yep, I realized it myself those US influx, more mainstream fans, more pussy porn friendly fans, but didnt link the facts really.
But does it mean also you dont see your job as an hardcore anal porn promoter mission again? No mission in pushing envelops a bit still?

About Polina Maxim, funny, I just analyzed some of her scenes and wrote quite a lot about her.(https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=23351&start=160) And just to be precise of course I wanted her DAP and of course I supported also your 1st DP with her for that reason. But than frankly your 2nd and 3rd Polina Maxim DP I couldnt support again. Btw, detail question maybe, but her DAPbreakin' has scene number GIO1198, but 2 of her DP have higher scene numbers, why that?

[Giorgio Grandi]

To close the topic: first scene(s) of a model have the meaning to test the audience.
So why to invest 4500$ for a DAP when it is possible to make a test with a BGa that costs 1/2 or so?

With this point i fully agree!
Thank you, Giorgio, for all your explanations.
I shall think it over!

Just 1 question: So does it mean when you released 1 porn scenes being DAP by Nicole Black and also by Mai Thai that both were girls with no audience? Or why than did you shoot DAP as their 1st scene?

Because the audience at that moment was very different. Anything else than DAP would have been just wasting of time.
Audience is very different now, content without DAP can make enough sales to indicate potential of a model and eventually even make good profit.
When it doesnt make profit, with small investment is possible to understand if is worth to work on the developing of a model or not.

Example is Polina Maxim, a model that sells only under some very defined conditions (that are not connected to the sexual act), something we would not understand just shooting a DAP right away.
Said that, without several "no dap" scene, we would not have her even on LP as to bring her to DAP took time.

So, who watch only DAP, was able to get the DAP of Polina just because others supported her on other scenes. If you got her DAP, you need to say thank you to who watched her DP previously.

Thanks for taking your time to explain again, Giorgio.
Yep, I realized it myself those US influx, more mainstream fans, more pussy porn friendly fans, but didnt link the facts really.
But does it mean also you dont see your job as an hardcore anal porn promoter mission again? No mission in pushing envelops a bit still?

About Polina Maxim, funny, I just analyzed some of her scenes and wrote quite a lot about her.(https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=23351&start=160) And just to be precise of course I wanted her DAP and of course I supported also your 1st DP with her for that reason. But than frankly your 2nd and 3rd Polina Maxim DP I couldnt support again. Btw, detail question maybe, but her DAPbreakin' has scene number GIO1198, but 2 of her DP have higher scene numbers, why that?

You have all the answers here:
https://pornbox.com/application#model/6993

as I told already several time, scene number doesnt have any link to the order we shot the scene or the order we release them.

[dap-addict]

as I told already several time, scene number doesnt have any link to the order we shot the scene or the order we release them.

Yep.
But if I remember right you said once the number indicates the time line of bookings for that girl, not of shootings.
So in Polina Maxims case I would conclude you booked her for DAP after that GLab anal, but than probably decided she wasnt ready for DAP yet and shoot some DPs first. Could also be, however, you shoot that DAPbreakin' first, but
a) it was troublesome and only after that you decided to shoot a few DPs before her 2nd DAP.
b) you just shoot some DPs before her 2nd DAP because its cheaper and maybe even better profit with new more vanilla geared audience?
It might be irrelevant for many, but for me I want also to fellow a girl growing in DAP. Thus I ask(ed).

[Giorgio Grandi]

as I told already several time, scene number doesnt have any link to the order we shot the scene or the order we release them.

Yep.
But if I remember right you said once the number indicates the time line of bookings for that girl, not of shootings.
So in Polina Maxims case I would conclude you booked her for DAP after that GLab anal, but than probably decided she wasnt ready for DAP yet and shoot some DPs first. Could also be, however, you shoot that DAPbreakin' first, but
a) it was troublesome and only after that you decided to shoot a few DPs before her 2nd DAP.
b) you just shoot some DPs before her 2nd DAP because its cheaper and maybe even better profit with new more vanilla geared audience?
It might be irrelevant for many, but for me I want also to fellow a girl growing in DAP. Thus I ask(ed).

I have no idea why one number is before the other. it could be the order of booking was changed after the code were assigned, dunno, we dont really remember as it is not important at all.
It already some time we also dont use this system anymore, but we apply code to the scene during post production, I didn't even know until now, its a minor job I do not do anymore.

[dap-addict]

but we apply code to the scene during post production, I didn't even know until now, its a minor job I do not do anymore.

Thanks for your answer again, Giorgio!
If you do it in post production now, couldn't you just return to order or shootings numbers?
I would make it so much easier to fellow a girl grow in your studio!

[ustash2008]

After quarantine, please reserve a milf from Eastern Europe (Belarus, Poland, Ukraine)

[grey00owl]

We have by now an excellent example of 1on1 with Nicole Love and Dylan Brown: hot!

[wi3rdo9]

The OP complaining about their being too many 1 on 1s on LP. When literally about 10% of scenes released on LP are 1 on 1. Not everyone is a fan of DAP either. The idea that every single girl that comes into the I industry can start with a 10 man DAP scene is ludicrous.

Personally I think the Dylan Brown balks deep 1 on 1s are mostly excellent scenes. And the models get their arseholes pounded a lot harder in those scenes than in many DAP gangbangs I've seen.

It's all about numbers with some people. One big cock going fully in and out of a girl's arsehole hard and fast and balls deep to me is a much harder scene than 2 cocks in her arsehole moving in and out 2cm. Which most DAP scenes seem to resort to.

[grey00owl]

The OP complaining about their being too many 1 on 1s on LP. When literally about 10% of scenes released on LP are 1 on 1. Not everyone is a fan of DAP either. The idea that every single girl that comes into the I industry can start with a 10 man DAP scene is ludicrous.

Personally I think the Dylan Brown balks deep 1 on 1s are mostly excellent scenes. And the models get their arseholes pounded a lot harder in those scenes than in many DAP gangbangs I've seen.

It's all about numbers with some people. One big cock going fully in and out of a girl's arsehole hard and fast and balls deep to me is a much harder scene than 2 cocks in her arsehole moving in and out 2cm. Which most DAP scenes seem to resort to.

Very well said.

[drevokocur66]

The OP complaining about their being too many 1 on 1s on LP. When literally about 10% of scenes released on LP are 1 on 1. Not everyone is a fan of DAP either. The idea that every single girl that comes into the I industry can start with a 10 man DAP scene is ludicrous.

Personally I think the Dylan Brown balks deep 1 on 1s are mostly excellent scenes. And the models get their arseholes pounded a lot harder in those scenes than in many DAP gangbangs I've seen.

It's all about numbers with some people. One big cock going fully in and out of a girl's arsehole hard and fast and balls deep to me is a much harder scene than 2 cocks in her arsehole moving in and out 2cm. Which most DAP scenes seem to resort to.

+1

LP is rampant with tip fucking fillers these days.

[Starrio]

The OP complaining about their being too many 1 on 1s on LP. When literally about 10% of scenes released on LP are 1 on 1. Not everyone is a fan of DAP either. The idea that every single girl that comes into the I industry can start with a 10 man DAP scene is ludicrous.

Personally I think the Dylan Brown balks deep 1 on 1s are mostly excellent scenes. And the models get their arseholes pounded a lot harder in those scenes than in many DAP gangbangs I've seen.

It's all about numbers with some people. One big cock going fully in and out of a girl's arsehole hard and fast and balls deep to me is a much harder scene than 2 cocks in her arsehole moving in and out 2cm. Which most DAP scenes seem to resort to.

I agree 100%. 1 on 1 videos with Dylan Brown are great, and they are not too pricey either, they are pure gold. I love balls deep over tip fucking any day. Watching all those model looking girls getting black dick deep inside never gets old.

[Ab.cad90210]

Thank you for your reply Giorgio.

[utopiaa]

I am Glad of the increase in 1on1 scenes. They are usually the best and more intense scenes.

[Ab.cad90210]

There’s far more variety in a seven on one svene than in a one on one. I can get one on one at home so I’d never buy it.