legalporno as we knew it is officialy DEAD

[netzerkaiser]

"That's why my strategy is to buy cheap old stuff in the pornbox (with Free TKT also) to see hot beauties and balls-deep anal or DP"

I agree. The treasure trove in the free Sineplex & the worthy pricing of the NRFTA 2009-2013 style stuff is worth membership alone... & lets not forget the many wonderful LP scenes & actresses... Andy Brown with a bit of weight on... Akasha Cullen... the beautiful Tereza... Kizzy... Ssindy Rako... Jessica Blue... Amanda HIll... Jenny Sky... Daisy Lee...Linda Summer... Jennifer White... ah look... I could spend an hour listing names... LP has a great history - one to be proud of. I think everyone here is a massive fan, & criticism is only positive in nature.

[101mike101]

It used to be a nice surprise, when a hot lady took on the anal guys. But now it's routine, when a hot lady takes on the anal team.

Not for me, I don't care if a scene might look as a routine. Because I focus on the girl. If she is beautiful, stunning and sluty, it doesn't matter for me if she was shot with the same camera work, the same sex positions, in the same location, because I simply start to like her and don't care about the "average" models who made the style of shooting to a routine. I just skipped the average models and don't have the impression of the routine.

I agree that when the hot lady is new, or she has been pussy-only for a long time and hasn't done anal before. Then it's exciting to see her meet a good anal team and have them put her through their anal routine. Because the new lady is the novelty here. Which is also exciting.

It's like eventually you get bored performing the same sex-acts with the same lady again and again. But if you get a new hot chick to nail with your dick. Then this will be exciting for you, even if you perform exactly the same sex acts with her as before. It's the lady's novelty that makes it exciting for you.

But the problem with such excitement is that it also soon stops being a novelty. Because the new hot lady stays in the porn business and gets nailed the same way again and again, until neither she nor her sex-acts are new or exciting anymore. And it's for ladies like this that you need to innovate and have some unique interaction between her and the studs to spice up their action. Or else, neither her good but familiar looks, nor her already-done-before sex-acts work well for you anymore.

Porn needs to have a way for producing exciting novelty for hot ladies who have been in the porn business for a while and have done more or less everything.

For example, Natasha Nice never took on the anal guys for the longest time. She relied on her pussy and her tits to keep her fans going with her. But then she finally spread her cheeks for anal dicks. Her anal and DP was exciting to see even for porn-fans who have known her for a long time. But the novelty of her anal didn't last, and now she is retired from porn.

[Hotflash]

The problem is that you don't have an increase in the sex acts with LP,or on a very short time i must say.

When you discover a newbie, she does very quickly DAP or others " extreme" things.

So, we don't have much more to discover in the sex gradation, we don't have time to fantasm on her next step and to finally have it, exited to have waited for it.

My opinion of course.

[grey00owl]

The problem is that you don't have an increase in the sex acts with LP,or on a very short time i must say.

When you discover a newbie, she does very quickly DAP or others " extreme" things.

So, we don't have much more to discover in the sex gradation, we don't have time to fantasm on her next step and to finally have it, exited to have waited for it.

My opinion of course.

I also like to see a sort of progression, but, on the other side, it's also nice to have a newbie already pushing her limits. And here at LP you can't have that much of progression as Anal is mandatory and the most users ask for DAP as soon as possible. So, if the model is not available at once for the extreme contents, she will get dropped before she could have the possibility to develop.
For me the key is variety. Take for example Lady Zee. She made a lukewarm debut and the most interest was about having her together with her twin sister. At one point she even seemed to be done, and now she's superhot having shot for GG and N&F, in different settings, with different partners and performing different contents.
Take, instead, Nicole Black, a really stunning model. She had rather an involution. She had at the beginning a good skills improvement, perfoming very good scenes, especially with other models (very nice the scenes with Monica Wild, Syren de Mer and Dee Williams), but then she become more and more passive and detached performing one DAP after the other, so that at the end I even skipped her scenes, bored to see her always performing the same contents with the same male partners.
She also stopped to swallow cum at one point, also a sign of her detachment.

[MackZatis]

.... and now she is retired from porn.

(Of Natasha Nice)

Unless something has changed in the past month or so, no she hasn't. It just seems that way as she has moved away from mainstream porn studio work & strictly/mostly (like 98%) to cam platforms... ([spam] I'm pretty sure)
However, if that still is the case I see why you'd think she'd retired.... Which is a shame in either case, as she is smoking hot! Especially now with a thiccer frame than earlier and MASSIVE natural breasts which have a great shape and perfect hang.... But I digress

[Sir Noel]

Well said SimplyStunning

+1

But this this silly DAP focus at any price is only the second biggest problem of LP. Even more annoying is the ever recurring standard formula assembly line production of the two main studios Gio and Gonzo. Every fucking scene looks the same. Can´t stand those loveless passionless scenes and locations anymore. Gio´s new studio until now is a joke. Same as before, just with a blue, grey or whatever coloured wall. Where are the times of scenes like "Clockwork Gang" or "Belle Factor" shot in nice locations or even with some outdoor material? Instead we only get the output of a porn fabric.

Yes, those scenes are a thing of the past. Too much effort for to little output. It isn't about creating a few masterpieces a month but one or more scenes daily.
It is a production line and that means doing the same things again and again amd again.
What is sad for me is how the scenes that excite me the most tend to be the Dylan one on one scenes. Once a girl "progresses" beyond this it usually means more tip-fucking; the same position for ten minutes or so and a generally less aesthetic product.
Like you, I look back at those big productions with people watching on in the background, with diffrerent sets and a sense of something special. LP isn't "dead" but any pretence of creativity here is.

[sarsastrid]

Well said SimplyStunning

+1

But this this silly DAP focus at any price is only the second biggest problem of LP. Even more annoying is the ever recurring standard formula assembly line production of the two main studios Gio and Gonzo. Every fucking scene looks the same. Can´t stand those loveless passionless scenes and locations anymore. Gio´s new studio until now is a joke. Same as before, just with a blue, grey or whatever coloured wall. Where are the times of scenes like "Clockwork Gang" or "Belle Factor" shot in nice locations or even with some outdoor material? Instead we only get the output of a porn fabric.

Yes, those scenes are a thing of the past. Too much effort for to little output. It isn't about creating a few masterpieces a month but one or more scenes daily.
It is a production line and that means doing the same things again and again amd again.
What is sad for me is how the scenes that excite me the most tend to be the Dylan one on one scenes. Once a girl "progresses" beyond this it usually means more tip-fucking; the same position for ten minutes or so and a generally less aesthetic product.
Like you, I look back at those big productions with people watching on in the background, with diffrerent sets and a sense of something special. LP isn't "dead" but any pretence of creativity here is.

Agree 101%

[DPraved]

Like you, I look back at those big productions with people watching on in the background, with diffrerent sets and a sense of something special. LP isn't "dead" but any pretence of creativity here is.

I had some fun writing the outline for a couple of scenes in this thread as a response to the generic porn-girl banged in a sterile studio trope. Admittedly those scripts were for gangbang scenarios, but I think that if we put some effort in suggesting interesting new scenarios, perhaps producers will eventually take note?

[Jocke]

This is a great scene. No DAP, no gangbang, just first time anal with an adult woman who, in my opinion is damn sexy. I am not looking for perfect teen bodies, I am looking for women who are horny and who are not pretending. Cokolady is fucking on camera because she likes to fuck. That is obvious. Then of course, an ATM when she least expects it creates some fun moments. Lol!

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29983

[grey00owl]

This is a great scene. No DAP, no gangbang, just first time anal with an adult woman who, in my opinion is damn sexy. I am not looking for perfect teen bodies, I am looking for women who are horny and who are not pretending. Cokolady is fucking on camera because she likes to fuck. That is obvious. Then of course, an ATM when she least expects it creates some fun moments. Lol!

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29983

Yes, this is a delicious scene! thank you for reminding: I had missed it. This is the proof that you don't need always gangbangs, DAP and Piss to create good porn.
So nice that gif where she pretends to be disgusted by ATM and then voraciously sucks the cock. A pity that this hot lady has just one scene.

[101mike101]

....
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29983

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So nice that gif where she pretends to be disgusted by ATM and then voraciously sucks the cock. A pity that this hot lady has just one scene.

I agree. This lady makes it look hotter by showing some disgust for the A2M and causing a delay, before she does it anyway. It's like this lady first tones down your expectation, and then exceeds it in a nice surprise.

A recent study has found that a lady being too easy with the guy makes herself look less desirable and less hot, than she can potentially be.

The lady playing hard to get with the guy actually works, but only up to a point. The trick is for the lady to be somewhere in the middle, not too easy, but also not too hard. Because if the lady looks either arrogant or disinterested, then this turns off the guy and is liable to backfire on the lady.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200608192510.htm

Basically, the lady needs to stay engaged with the guy and look interested in him, so that the guy still thinks he has a good chance with her. But she should introduce a little bit of uncertainty and doubt by making him wait before the penetrate.

And this applies in group situations too. The lady should agree to do anal and DP. But when some guy pulls aside her ass-cheek to take her nice ass with his big dick, then she should yell at him, "Wait a minute! I'm not ready yet!". This lady doesn't change her mind and say 'No' to anal plow. She just makes you little uncertain about when, how well, and how long she will let these guys bang her nice ass with their big dong. You start to doubt about whether this will be a good anal bout. And then the lady and the guys exceed your expectations with their all out anal penetrations.

There is such a thing as the lady being too easy with her guys. And this is often the biggest problem with ladies in porn. Porn ladies should show some reluctance and cause some delay, before they let the guys have their way anyway.

I think it works like this because when the lady is too easy, then you start to expect so much from her sex with the guys, that you are likely to be disappointed. It's going to be less than you expect. Which is disappointing. But when the lady shows some reluctance and causes a delay, then exceeding your expectations becomes easy for her. Anything above average for her will make you feel that these guys really nail her sexy butt. Which is especially satisfying to see for a reluctant lady such as she.

[Wotan29]

[quote="DPraved"]... but I think that if we put some effort in suggesting interesting new scenarios, perhaps producers will eventually take note?[/quote

No, they don´t.

[Wotan29]

[quote="DPraved"]... but I think that if we put some effort in suggesting interesting new scenarios, perhaps producers will eventually take note?[/quote

No, they don´t.

[101mike101]

... but I think that if we put some effort in suggesting interesting new scenarios, perhaps producers will eventually take note?

No, they don´t.

Not every suggestion is good or easy to try. And not every film director is open-minded enough to try other people's ideas. Because when you are an expert and a professional, then you tend to think that you know better than other people.

But I've seen in one porn-scene where the hot lady actually argued with Mike Adriano about how he was going to take her nice ass with his cock. He already took her ass when she was on her side. And he told her to assume some other position. But she said that this new positions wouldn't look good. And she actually prevailed in her argument with him. He had to take her ass the way she thought looked best for the viewers.

So, if some porn-ladies can be persuaded that they will look hotter and better in one scenario, as opposed to another. Then these ladies might be assertive enough to actually do this kind of stuff in their scenes.

Porn fans should talk to the ladies and not just about the ladies. Because porn ladies are real people, and they have some influence in what happens.

[SimplyStunning]

LP isn't "dead" but any pretence of creativity here is.

+1

I think that if we put some effort in suggesting interesting new scenarios, perhaps producers will eventually take note?

No it won't, believe me you are not the 1st and won't be the last to make suggestions. Remember just like every business in the world profit is all that matters. The issue that some of us have is that when LP studios realized that to reduce risk of making scenes all they had to do is drown a girl in piss, stick as many cocks in her ass as she could fit and show her insides coming out with prolapse and members would buy scenes that is all they focus on. Giorgio has said it before they just need to focus on piss drowning, prolapse and 0%.pussy to be successful and not look for the stunning models that are hard to find and even hatder to convince to do that stuff. Now that they know they don't even need women at all, I expect more changes in LP studios to capitalize on that market. Even Gonzo tested that market. The flood gates are opening up very soon.

[Jocke]

I have found that many of my wishes have been fulfilled. I don't know if I had any influence but I'd like to think that suggestions at least are considered.

[DPraved]

LP isn't "dead" but any pretence of creativity here is.

+1

I think that if we put some effort in suggesting interesting new scenarios, perhaps producers will eventually take note?

No it won't, believe me you are not the 1st and won't be the last to make suggestions. Remember just like every business in the world profit is all that matters. The issue that some of us have is that when LP studios realized that to reduce risk of making scenes all they had to do is drown a girl in piss, stick as many cocks in her ass as she could fit and show her insides coming out with prolapse and members would buy scenes that is all they focus on. Giorgio has said it before they just need to focus on piss drowning, prolapse and 0%.pussy to be successful and not look for the stunning models that are hard to find and even hatder to convince to do that stuff. Now that they know they don't even need women at all, I expect more changes in LP studios to capitalize on that market. Even Gonzo tested that market. The flood gates are opening up very soon.

I guess time will tell, but you do paint a rather accurate picture of the progression of the platform so far. I might have to reconsider my membership should your predictions prove accurate as well. It's the shortsighted business logic screwing the long term, as always I suppose.

[Destroyherass]

Since the MCT is missing and the corona crisis has made it impossible for foreign actresses to travel to the regular studios, i have lost interest in the daily updates. Most of it does little for me. I think the producers are doing what they can with the current conditions but it is not great. The day where i am not looking forward to new lp is a sad one. I think we never realized how good we had it the past decade or so. The standard of daily vids was insanely high in lp peak era (2012-2017?). I hope it will come back at some point. The brand is still strong.

[101mike101]

I have found that many of my wishes have been fulfilled. I don't know if I had any influence but I'd like to think that suggestions at least are considered.

I found an article which says that porn nowadays reflects the tastes and desires of people who pay a lot of money for porn. Which isn't the majority.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/3/16 ... -influence

Porn is not a democracy. It's about who has the money and who pays for it. So, if the majority is poor and they can't afford to pay much for porn, then their tastes and fantasies won't be played out in porn. It's the minority who has the money and who spends it on porn that gets to have their tastes and fantasies catered to in porn.

I suppose, the rich and the big spenders get to have their way in more or less everything in society. Even so-called democratic elections, where everybody gets to vote regardless of their wealth, usually reflect the desires of the rich minority, rather than the poor majority. Because it takes so much money for publicity and campaigning, that the rich get to pre-select all the candidates who stand for election.

So, the poor can only choose among candidates who already have been vetted and pre-selected by the rich. All of these candidates represent the rich in some way. And their disagreements reflect disagreements between the rich. Which doesn't leave much choice for the poor. The poor can only side with one faction of the rich or another, but they don't have a faction of their own to represent them.

Porn is just a reflection of what happens in the rest of society. The only difference is that porn doesn't even pretend to be democratic. It's openly and explicitly for those who pay. While the rest of society has elaborate rules and ceremonies to hide the fact that the government is by the rich and for the rich.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I have found that many of my wishes have been fulfilled. I don't know if I had any influence but I'd like to think that suggestions at least are considered.

I found an article which says that porn nowadays reflects the tastes and desires of people who pay a lot of money for porn. Which isn't the majority.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/3/16 ... -influence

Porn is not a democracy. It's about who has the money and who pays for it. So, if the majority is poor and they can't afford to pay much for porn, then their tastes and fantasies won't be played out in porn. It's the minority who has the money and who spends it on porn that gets to have their tastes and fantasies catered to in porn.

I suppose, the rich and the big spenders get to have their way in more or less everything in society. Even so-called democratic elections, where everybody gets to vote regardless of their wealth, usually reflect the desires of the rich minority, rather than the poor majority. Because it takes so much money for publicity and campaigning, that the rich get to pre-select all the candidates who stand for election.

So, the poor can only choose among candidates who already have been vetted and pre-selected by the rich. All of these candidates represent the rich in some way. And their disagreements reflect disagreements between the rich. Which doesn't leave much choice for the poor. The poor can only side with one faction of the rich or another, but they don't have a faction of their own to represent them.

Best post of the year
Porn is just a reflection of what happens in the rest of society. The only difference is that porn doesn't even pretend to be democratic. It's openly and explicitly for those who pay. While the rest of society has elaborate rules and ceremonies to hide the fact that the government is by the rich and for the rich.

[Sir Noel]

I have found that many of my wishes have been fulfilled. I don't know if I had any influence but I'd like to think that suggestions at least are considered.

I found an article which says that porn nowadays reflects the tastes and desires of people who pay a lot of money for porn. Which isn't the majority.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/3/16 ... -influence

Porn is not a democracy. It's about who has the money and who pays for it. So, if the majority is poor and they can't afford to pay much for porn, then their tastes and fantasies won't be played out in porn. It's the minority who has the money and who spends it on porn that gets to have their tastes and fantasies catered to in porn.

I suppose, the rich and the big spenders get to have their way in more or less everything in society. Even so-called democratic elections, where everybody gets to vote regardless of their wealth, usually reflect the desires of the rich minority, rather than the poor majority. Because it takes so much money for publicity and campaigning, that the rich get to pre-select all the candidates who stand for election.

So, the poor can only choose among candidates who already have been vetted and pre-selected by the rich. All of these candidates represent the rich in some way. And their disagreements reflect disagreements between the rich. Which doesn't leave much choice for the poor. The poor can only side with one faction of the rich or another, but they don't have a faction of their own to represent them.

Porn is just a reflection of what happens in the rest of society. The only difference is that porn doesn't even pretend to be democratic. It's openly and explicitly for those who pay. While the rest of society has elaborate rules and ceremonies to hide the fact that the government is by the rich and for the rich.

I don't think that is the universal "truth" you claim.
For two election cycles in the UK, the opposition has been led by a man who is not only not part of "the rich" but quite openly showed his contempt and dislike for "the rich". The public had every opportunity to vote for him and they chose not to.
I do wonder if one of the underlying issues is that prejudice against "the rich", or even simply the middle classes, is seen as an acceptable axis of bigotry in many left wing circles whilst the larger society is a bit more even-handed nowadays (and expects a left-wing party to at least play the game and pretend to be a "party of all the people" in the way right wing parties at least have to pretend to be).

But this is a digression. Two comments related to your analogising this to porn:
1) I fear as much as what you say is true it will only get worse at LP. You either price low and sell to a wider spectrum of people or price high and sell to a smaller group of people willing to pay the higher cost. LP has recently chose the latter route, which means an even smaller number of people, those who are willing to spend 6-12 tickets on a single scene, steering what is made. I propose those people will only pay those prices for material which is substantially different to what they can get elsewhere, even if that means the same scene, scene after scene after scene.
2) Some of this clearly isn't about sales of "the rich" at all but simply effort vs output. The grand productions like Angel Perversion, Belle Factor, Clockwork Gang etc etc sold really well but clearly the hassle of having background cast, a (bit of a) plot, a larger cast, a different location etc as well as the additional costs of paying multiple girls to be dapped and fisted is just not worth it if you can film the same "Monsters of DAP Destination Festival" as last wekk, on the same set with the same guys doing the same positions but with a different girl. Personally, I absolutely understand the logic with that. It makes total sense from a business perspective. i just wish from an artistic perspective Giorgio would push the boat out once a month or so and do something a bit more special, filming somewhere else, with non-sex actors watching on etc (the Marco Nero outdoor scenes were almost great.... were it not that they were filmed at 24fps and I wasted all my tickets on what turned out to be choppy unwatchable garbage) but it is what it is.

PS: I only single Giorgio out for these criticisms because the Gonzo and the other studios have only ever churned out "cooking porn", albeit very hard "cooking porn" (to be fair American Anal produced some nicely lit and very exciting material but they are hardly a main studio here), so I don;t hold out any hope there anyway.

[101mike101]

I don't think that is the universal "truth" you claim.
For two election cycles in the UK, the opposition has been led by a man who is not only not part of "the rich" but quite openly showed his contempt and dislike for "the rich". The public had every opportunity to vote for him and they chose not to.
....

A recent study in UK has found that "British newspapers heap positive coverage on Tories while trashing Labour".
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 09026.html

I agree that the rich having control through money isn't as perfect as having actual rules and laws to do that, the way it was in the past. Once in a while the poor join a political party in large enough numbers to elect a representative of their own.

But this is like breaching the canal and hitting the wall that surrounds the ruling castle. Because the rich immediately defund this political party and use their ownership of the media to trash the party and its representative of the poor so much that neither he nor the party gets anywhere in politics.

Joseph Goebbels, who managed political propaganda in Nazi Germany, once said: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

That's why ownership and control of the media makes all the difference in politics. It's not truth that matters. It's what the media keeps repeating again and again.

And this isn't a new idea, or even a purely Nazi idea. This is something George Orwell also wrote about in late 1940s, in his book titled ''1984'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

[sarsastrid]

I don't think that is the universal "truth" you claim.
For two election cycles in the UK, the opposition has been led by a man who is not only not part of "the rich" but quite openly showed his contempt and dislike for "the rich". The public had every opportunity to vote for him and they chose not to.
....

A recent study in UK has found that "British newspapers heap positive coverage on Tories while trashing Labour".
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 09026.html

I agree that the rich having control through money isn't as perfect as having actual rules and laws to do that, the way it was in the past. Once in a while the poor join a political party in large enough numbers to elect a representative of their own.

But this is like breaching the canal and hitting the wall that surrounds the ruling castle. Because the rich immediately defund this political party and use their ownership of the media to trash the party and its representative of the poor so much that neither he nor the party gets anywhere in politics.

Joseph Goebbels, who managed political propaganda in Nazi Germany, once said: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

That's why ownership and control of the media makes all the difference in politics. It's not truth that matters. It's what the media keeps repeating again and again.

And this isn't a new idea, or even a purely Nazi idea. This is something George Orwell also wrote about in late 1940s, in his book titled ''1984'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Ever wondered how a topic on cellphones can possibly switch to used car reviews? Exactly this. WTF?!

[Sir Noel]

I feel the need to point out that print media =/= media.
This is 2020 not 1980 and newspaper circulations are a long way down from their peak.
What demographic still keeps buying newspapers? Older people. Older people who lean more right wing. I propose to you that newspaper bias largely reflects the biases of the newspaper buying demographic. Online media sources are somewhat different, not to mention YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Indeed, even if you look just at the BBC, it's broadcasting output is still reasonably neutral whereas its website may as well be Vox or Buzzfeed the amount of one-sided articles on social issues it churns out.
Newspapers simply do not have the inpact that they did in the day when The Sun switching support to Tony Blair meant something, it is simply publications appealing to the prejudices of the older demographic that reads them.
In any event, my Corbyn point still stands, for consecutive elections there was a "hate the rich" pm and chancellor elect combination the public could vote for. They hadn't been "weeded out" leaving just choices proposed by "the rich".
Indeed, whilst Starmer is now Labour leader (much better imo), the Labout membership could have chosen Long-Bailey instead: they weren't denied a candidate that "the rich" wouldn't approve of.

[Jocke]

Corbyn also faced internal opposition which cooperated with the Tories. They were more interested in gaining influence in the labour party than labour winning. Sad.
Fortunately it works both ways. Now the most successful campaign to get rid of the orange turd is run by Republicans.

[rroper472]

As long as I don't see the constant skinny women am happy... gotta be more variety

Have at it.



(by the way: in the US this is called "curvy")

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING SON!!??

[NylonSteve]

Legal Porno is terrible lately. All you get is non-stop DAP. And the standards of women have gone down as well.
The old vids used to be great with gorgeous babes all wearing stunning lingerie with great DP scenes and DAP 50/50.

Lately, I am watching more vintage porn to see great story lines and sexy natural girls with none of this tattoo and silicone shit.

[netzerkaiser]

Keep the faith. Theres seldom a day I check it out & theres not a positive surprise. Remember, this not 2001 & you see dentits daughters fom Budapest getting it. They're doin' their best and I think they're honourable people.

[rroper472]

Times change

[Hotflash]

Legal Porno is terrible lately. All you get is non-stop DAP. And the standards of women have gone down as well.
The old vids used to be great with gorgeous babes all wearing stunning lingerie with great DP scenes and DAP 50/50.

Lately, I am watching more vintage porn to see great story lines and sexy natural girls with none of this tattoo and silicone shit.

Me too, i try to find old diamonds which disapeared from my radars

[Karlmarx]

I do not entirely agree with the proclamation:" legalporno as we knew it is officially DEAD ".
I do not entirely disagree with the proclamation: "legalporno as we knew it is officialy DEAD".

Putting aside their wonderful make up, some of the talent are truly beauty women, the likes of : May Thai ,Nicole Black, Kristy Black , Kira Thorn , Jolee Love. Veronica Leal & the utterly amazing Luna Corazon. This list is not exhaustive. Of course some of these talents have moved on, became too expensive, retired, found God, became, Nuns, - etc...I would love to see the return of Luna Corazon, Timea Bella, Gabriella Lati, Belle Claire ,Crystal Greenville,Ria Sunn, Olivia Devine . Where are some of these amazing talents??

I have noticed the hiked in LP's cost. A tad too expensive for me most of the times. Economics and the need to innovate will always play a part in the survival of any business. LP like some of the above former talents, has to move on & forward, otherwise, it will become stagnant. Its a challenge for a business in a very competitive market & change is a must.

However, is the current changed for the better? The introduction of transsexual Scenes Giorgio's Lab is a 100% no go area for me, not matter who trans talent is paired with , example : Alita Angel & Natalie Mars LP has to make attempts to cater for every taste.

LP will please some of the people some times, but LP will most definitely not be able to please all the people all the time. Its impossible. I am sure there a army of Natalie Mars fans out there some where. However, a guy with breast & getting shafted up the anus - does not wok for me. Its gay porn.

I believe LP has redeemed its self in recent wks, with new scenes Jolee Love,May Thai, Sara Bell & one of my old favorite, Susan Ayn.

LP is by far the best & greatest gang bang site on the net. Talents such as Luna Corazon (LC), Timea Bella (TB), Gabriella Lati (GL), Belle Claire(BC) ,Crystal Greenville(CG),Ria Sunn (RS), Olivia Devine .Kristy Black, - in multiple GB was just amazing to watch. I hope the movers & shakers of LP with pay attention to the comments this topic & generated & pay heed.

May the good lord see fit to bless LP's movers & shakers - endow them with wisdom to produce better & greater new GB scenes, 5to1, 7to1, 10to1 & hell yeah, 20to1, minus chicks with dicks & the return of TB. LC.GL.CG. - amen.

[TheVulture]

In any event, my Corbyn point still stands, for consecutive elections there was a "hate the rich" pm and chancellor elect combination the public could vote for. They hadn't been "weeded out" leaving just choices proposed by "the rich".

Pretty mad that this has become an analysis of UK politics but I can't help but contribute to that ha ha ha.

The big problem with Corbyn, McDonnell et al is that they didn't manage to translate the popularity of their policies and very large grassroots supporter base into wider acceptance because they tried too hard to play the media's game and also to pacify their very many internal enemies. This was never more apparent than with the antisemitism rubbish, which was mostly baseless criticism designed to stick to and damage Corbyn and which ultimately worked because he wasn't tough enough to call it out for what it was - malicious politically motivated smear. Corbyn's big problem really was that he was too stoic - he'd see attacks on him from all sides and seemed to think "Ah that's silly, no-one will believe that". But of course people do believe smear if it goes unchallenged and that is no fault of theirs, just the nature of things. Corbyn needed to come out swinging and with the antisemitism stuff in particular plant his flag early on and say "Hang on - this is not antisemitic, if you disagree tell me why, let's have a debate about it". Instead he just engaged in liberal hand-wringing and throwing his allies under the bus to pacify his enemies (?) in the hope that he could concentrate solely on his policy direction, which was never going to be allowed to happen when his enemies on both sides had a much higher media profile and influence, whilst the tacit admissions of guilt also damaged his public standing. Then of course there was Brexit where he never stuck to his principled left wing anti-EU position (ie opposition to state aid restrictions and anti-trade union directives etc.) and instead allowed himself to be pushed to a tame liberal Remain position that alienated Labour's traditional working class voters and made him appear above all else a spokesman for young middle class metropolitan students.

In essence, he had great (and popular) policy direction but was an incredibly weak leader.

It's also wrong to say he wasn't "of the rich" as he is from quite a wealthy background but he was nonetheless anti-establishment as described and said background needn't have been an issue had he had the courage of his convictions to put forward his bold program whilst at the same time taking on his enemies.

The wider point that the vast majority of UK political party leaders have always in effect been tools of the ruling class is hard to argue with. As with Trump vs Biden in the USA, Johnson vs Starmer isn't really much of a choice for a genuine socialist like me or anyone looking for serious change. There's a "lesser evil" candidate each way but that isn't the same as an inspiring program for genuine change, which is what Corbyn could have delivered with a bit more backbone and the Sanders movement in the USA still could. In both cases, however, those looking for such genuine change must surely look outside of Labour and the Democrats.

[TheVulture]

As for LP, I've cancelled for now (again) because I'm just fed up of the male entitlement vibe and the dousing of girls' heat. As ever, I'll keep an eye on the trailers to see if anything might have changed but if not, never seeing Angelo Godshack wrapping his massive bicep around a girls' throat again will be satisfying enough. Addition by subtraction.

[maurice070]

A couple of years ago we had stunning models like: Ria Sun, Timea Bella, Sofi Goldfinger, Arwen Gold, Lola Bulgari, Angie Moon, Emily Thorne, Ally Breelsen, Katrin Tequila, Lara Onyx, Maria Devine etc.

Those girls were smoking hot. Nowadays the girls are not that attractive anymore.

There were also more 2 om 2, 3 on 3 etc. Nowadays it's mostly one girl with 5 guys over and over again.

You guys are killing it here! Look back at the production shot 5 years ago, learn and start shooting like that to get back on track.

I don't want to see trans porn here!

[Jocke]

LP sell more than ever, especially transporn. LP care less about your feelings than they do about cash flow.

I think there are many gorgeous women shot today. Rebecca Volpetti?

I also wish that they would shoot more multi girl scenes. At the moment I am happy that IV let Rebecca Sharon piss on Alice Hatter.

[101mike101]

....
This was never more apparent than with the antisemitism rubbish, which was mostly baseless criticism designed to stick to and damage Corbyn and which ultimately worked because he wasn't tough enough to call it out for what it was - malicious politically motivated smear....

Yes, this is the big lie I was talking about. As Joseph Goebbels has said, "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

The poor can be persuaded to vote against their own interests, when they come to believe the big lies spread around and constantly repeated by the rich through the mainstream media that they own and control.

That's why we have only an appearance of the majority being in control, rather than the real thing.

And it works like this in porn too, even more explicitly than in the rest of society. Porn caters to people who pay the most for porn, rather than to the majority. And unlike the rest of society, porn doesn't even try to hide this.

[Ab.cad90210]

I also wish that they would shoot more multi girl scenes. At the moment I am happy that IV let Rebecca Sharon piss on Alice Hatter.

If you look at the first scenes that LP/sineplex were famous for ie gooey buns, rim my gape etc it was all 2 girls anal creampie to other girls mouth. This was 10-12 years ago and now we have this bullshit.

[Ab.cad90210]

A couple of years ago we had stunning models like: Ria Sun, Timea Bella, Sofi Goldfinger, Arwen Gold, Lola Bulgari, Angie Moon, Emily Thorne, Ally Breelsen, Katrin Tequila, Lara Onyx, Maria Devine etc.

Those girls were smoking hot. Nowadays the girls are not that attractive anymore.

There were also more 2 om 2, 3 on 3 etc. Nowadays it's mostly one girl with 5 guys over and over again.

You guys are killing it here! Look back at the production shot 5 years ago, learn and start shooting like that to get back on track.

I don't want to see trans porn here!

I agree. There was focus on quality. girls from 9/10 to 2/10 tkt prices 3-4 TIMES what they were. But eg Kira Thorn’s first scene she was sucking 10 loads of cum from isabellas prolapsed asshole! That was her FIRST scene! At that time I had never seen stuff like that, girls that hot doing such extreme stuff. It was art, like Rocco in the 90s. Now it’s just bullshit I really don’t know WTF has happened. Ugly 1-1 or 1-4 scenes creampies are pointless unless they’re to ANOTHER girls mouth so you need 2 girls.

[Lanos]

The thing with the attractivity of the girls ....it always lies in the eye of the beholder.

But I also have to admit that I don't like the LP product any more. And this is also due to the girls. Many seem very, very thin and used up. Others seem very cheesy and trashy. Generally the whole product looks very cheap and amateurish.

[hjohjole]

Im fascinated with this studio "Kinky Sex". We see a new scene from them almost every day. But there is absolutely no way in hell that anyone are buying them.
How is this even possible? Is Joachim shooting them just for fun and is gladly paying everything out of his own pocket?
The studio seems to be just as immune to the laws of supply and demand as it is to good taste.

They started to release in March this year and have already puked out 155 fucking scenes!?! What is going on? Who is responsible for this?