Why this nonsense about starting with 1-1?

[abcad90210]

I was just looking through with so much sadness about what happened to LP. I’ve only bought 3 scenes this year where before I would have bought 30% of GG scenes, ie all his creampie to other girls mouth scenes.

Now we have trans and pee (which I don’t mind) but they are now becoming the top sellers, changing the demographic/target of GG, instead of just getting hot girls like before.

The excuse for so many 1-1 scenes was you can’t start hard but that’s bullshit. Kira Thorn started with 10 guys and Isabella and she was licking out 10 Black guys anal creampies from a prolapsed asshole on her FIRST INTRO SCENE!!!! Soon she was getting DAPd on most scenes with multiple guys. That’s how LP was WHAT HAPPENED? Please GG bring back the multiple creampies to other girls mouths. If you want to do one facial at the end that’s fine but just one. Look at the poll on the general forum which I posted we have 50+ votes. There was another similar poll few months back which also got 30+ votes but GG hasn’t commented.

Please GG make LP great again. Or please LP make GG great again.

[dap-addict]

Yep, GIO starting sure took a strange turn.
In 20018 still quite a few girls started with DAP even if it was their first porn scene ever!
Now all over a sudden Giorgio Grandi claims step-to-step was needed and not only 1on1 but also 2on1 with DP, i.e. pussy sex again.

[abcad90210]

Thank you. Yes I agree. DAP addict who are you? Are you involved in the porn industry? You know a lot about it!

[IndyPleco]

Starting with 1-on-1 is awesome. Love seeing that progress (e.g. Cindy Shine).

[hjohjole]

Now we have trans and pee (which I don’t mind) but they are now becoming the top sellers, changing the demographic/target of GG, instead of just getting hot girls like before.

Trust me, there is absolutely no thought whatsoever put in to things like target audience. Not by xxx and not by any of the producers. They just all do whatever the hell they feels like for the moment and whatever happens happens. There is no plan or strategy.

When Giorgio was new here he put som serious effort in to finding good pretty girls for his scenes. Even going so far as to involving himself in a new talent agency (The White Models).
Nowadays it seems that just about any rugged old hag will do the trick. It doesn't even have to be a women. Just slap some makeup on there and we are ready to shoot. Or veteran performers with 40+ scenes already.

That being said, i don't really mind 1on1 as a format. With the right male performer they can be a lot more exiting than an uninspired gangbang with DAP. Or even worse a DP scene, like the snooze-fests Gonzo studio puts out. I take a 1on1 over that any day. At leas you are guaranteed a anal scene without bullshit pussy sex.
And if thees scenes actually makes it easier to bring in hot newbies im for it even more. But im not really convinced that this is the case.

[YumYum74]

Starting with 1-on-1 is awesome. Love seeing that progress (e.g. Cindy Shine).

This.^^^

[abcad90210]

I thought whyte models was GG wife? Personally if I wanted 1-1 I’d go to the hundrereds of other sites where all content is given for subscription like faketaxi FA Evil etc or even tube sites for new content.

LP got famous for DAP and anal creampies to mouth from the days of sineplex and that’s why I came here. That niche. Me and at least 90 others (50+40 from last two polls)

[robin_reid]

Not bad if a newcomer shoot a 1o1 first and then dap. We can check her anal skills and see if she is salable for next levels. In my case sometimes I can discover some good girl in Spain that never did shoot anal before, and right now in Spain few producers shoot anal.

The next step when the spanish newcomers shoot something in Spain is go to Budapest, a bad place as many of you know because the agencies always send the models to Woodman first and then most of them get brainwashed and blocked for anal. Take as sample the girl I attached, a new model that never shot anal before and she say she is ready for it. (We are waiting that our government allow us to move around the country on following weeks because she lives far from my place)

Do you want me not to shoot her a 1o1?? It’s better if she shoot her first anal in Budapest and then we ask her if she wanna do daps in Prague?? In most cases the models get lost for anal, dp and dap when go there because unfortunately the ins and outs of this industry in Europe are like this, just for you to know.

[abcad90210]

Average to decent body, but no face so can’t judge. Yes you can shoot 1-1 if you must. But Kira thorn, Abby etc had similar or better bodies and were 8-9/10s like truly stunning girls my point is that 4 years ago we had girls like that being INTRODUCED with a 10 guy/2girl anal creampie to mouth gangbang, sucking out multiple loads of cum from prolapsed assholes on their first scene. If they did it well then maybe I’d buy a 1-1 but not the other way round.

That’s what made LP great and kept me coming back. The utter crap being pumped out for the last year maybe even 18 months has destroyed LP for me.

I’m so sad, I don’t know what to do. Surely someone can organize a weekly anal creampie to girls mouth gangbang?

[dap-addict]

Do you want me not to shoot her a 1o1?? It’s better if she shoot her first anal in Budapest and then we ask her if she wanna do daps in Prague?? In most cases the models get lost for anal, dp and dap when go there because unfortunately the ins and outs of this industry in Europe are like this, just for you to know.

Best would be to propose her DAP straight away to be shot in Barcelona for GIO!
But we know thats hardly possible because there's not enough actors able to do it.
So in this situation 2nd best is to shoot a 1on1 anal with her, see how she sells, and if she sells fine make sure she goes for DAP to Prague - without stopping in Budapest first!
Usual import route via Budapest needs cut, here I agree.
Girls dont need a step-by-step porn introduction, but can do DAP at once. If it was possible @ GIO in 2018 its also possible in 2020!

Option would be to find the right actors in BCN and also Piter to start the way Giorgio Grandi started successfully in Prague 2 years ago.
But more important is - here I fully agree - to prevent any imports via Budapest first!

[robin_reid]

Even if I had the proper male talent I don’t think it is a good idea with a newbie start with a DAP on her first time on set instead of a 1-1... Important is to prevent the usual import route via Budapest and stop in Prague first.

[dap-addict]

Doenst it depend on the girl?
May Thai for instance wanted it like this, many others at GIO, too.
If the girl wants to earn triple or more of her anal rate jumping straight into DAP why not?!

I fully agree with preventing the usual Budapest import route! Again best prevention would be a re-activation of The White Models, though.

[grey00owl]

Doenst it depend on the girl?
May Thai for instance wanted it like this, many others at GIO, too.
If the girl wants to earn triple or more of her anal rate jumping straight into DAP why not?!

I fully agree with preventing the usual Budapest import route! Again best prevention would be a re-activation of The White Models, though.

Agree, it's up to the girl what kind of contents she likes, is willing to perform, is at ease with. Said that, I also like to see kind of evolution, from a simple 1on1, which can be so good, even outstanding, to more extreme contents. Frankly I find quite often 1on1 scenes so much better than so called gangbangs, with more of, say, 5 guys. Obviously in a 1on1 scene the stud's quality is decisive. For example i like so much those Mr Anderson's introductions on improvised sets in Russia. The other Russian boys are really not bad either. Also nice and intense the scenes with Mike Chapman and Dylan Brown, where the presence of big black cocks is obviously a great bonus.

[abcad90210]

Doenst it depend on the girl?
May Thai for instance wanted it like this, many others at GIO, too.
If the girl wants to earn triple or more of her anal rate jumping straight into DAP why not?!

I fully agree with preventing the usual Budapest import route! Again best prevention would be a re-activation of The White Models, though.

Agree, it's up to the girl what kind of contents she likes, is willing to perform, is at ease with. Said that, I also like to see kind of evolution, from a simple 1on1, which can be so good, even outstanding, to more extreme contents. Frankly I find quite often 1on1 scenes so much better than so called gangbangs, with more of, say, 5 guys. Obviously in a 1on1 scene the stud's quality is decisive. For example i like so much those Mr Anderson's introductions on improvised sets in Russia. The other Russian boys are really not bad either. Also nice and intense the scenes with Mike Chapman and Dylan Brown, where the presence of big black cocks is obviously a great bonus.

If you want 1-1 go to Elegaht Angel or Rocco where you see 9/10s regularly unlimited scenes included in membership

[hjohjole]

LP have never been only about gang-bangs. From the very start when this was a Sineplex site scenes with multiple girls + one or two guys was the norm. And even back then there was some 1on1 scenes.
Over the time the content have changed a lot, but we always have had at least a limited variety. 2on2s, 1on1s and other more rare configurations have always been here. Even if they have not been (and probably never will be) in majority.

Now we have trans and pee (which I don’t mind)

Piss scenes we have had from the beginning, except for a short period when they where banned by xxx. Sineplex started the whole thing with their Piss my Ass of series.
But TS scenes they are brand new for this year. TS is some extremely divisive content that people either love or hate. Unlike pissing scenes there are no edited alternative versions for non TS fans. And you say you dont mind this, but 1on1 fans have to go somewhere else??

And since there is no edited alternative versions for non TS fans this means that every TS scene released is a loss of content for non TS fans. All time, effort and money that is put in to making a TS scene could have been spent on regular content instead. And we are now only going to see more and more TS content.
So since we are getting less and less regular content there will also be less and less room for variety within the regular content. So i guess we are going to see more threads like this one where we argue and bicker over what should stay and what should go instead of addressing the real problems.

[drevokocur66]

I was just looking through with so much sadness about what happened to LP. I’ve only bought 3 scenes this year where before I would have bought 30% of GG scenes, ie all his creampie to other girls mouth scenes.

Now we have trans and pee (which I don’t mind) but they are now becoming the top sellers, changing the demographic/target of GG, instead of just getting hot girls like before.

The excuse for so many 1-1 scenes was you can’t start hard but that’s bullshit. Kira Thorn started with 10 guys and Isabella and she was licking out 10 Black guys anal creampies from a prolapsed asshole on her FIRST INTRO SCENE!!!! Soon she was getting DAPd on most scenes with multiple guys. That’s how LP was WHAT HAPPENED? Please GG bring back the multiple creampies to other girls mouths. If you want to do one facial at the end that’s fine but just one. Look at the poll on the general forum which I posted we have 50+ votes. There was another similar poll few months back which also got 30+ votes but GG hasn’t commented.

Please GG make LP great again. Or please LP make GG great again.

It is called "milking"

[Starrio]

1 on 1 scenes are great for me as long as they meet these requirements:

- It is a black dude or Mr. Anderson, I guess avery old white man could be fine, but I don't GIO has any.

- It has balls deep moments, the longer, and better the best.

- Very minimum cowgirl or girl on top positions, or not at all

- A lot of doggy, standing up, and prone bone

- No milfs

But that's just my preference, anyone can have different preferences.

It is true that the orgies are the best. but I imagine those are very expensive to make.

I do like the 5 on 1 BBC, and 7 on 1 BBC videos, and those waka waka ones, but even a solid 3 on 1 BBC with balls deep is great too.

[grey00owl]

Not bad if a newcomer shoot a 1o1 first and then dap. We can check her anal skills and see if she is salable for next levels. In my case sometimes I can discover some good girl in Spain that never did shoot anal before, and right now in Spain few producers shoot anal.

The next step when the spanish newcomers shoot something in Spain is go to Budapest, a bad place as many of you know because the agencies always send the models to Woodman first and then most of them get brainwashed and blocked for anal. Take as sample the girl I attached, a new model that never shot anal before and she say she is ready for it. (We are waiting that our government allow us to move around the country on following weeks because she lives far from my place)

Do you want me not to shoot her a 1o1?? It’s better if she shoot her first anal in Budapest and then we ask her if she wanna do daps in Prague?? In most cases the models get lost for anal, dp and dap when go there because unfortunately the ins and outs of this industry in Europe are like this, just for you to know.

This girl seems to have a nice bis ass. Though, without a face, I can't judge whether I would like to see her here. Agree with you about recruiting and preventing a girl to go wasted.

[grey00owl]

Doenst it depend on the girl?
May Thai for instance wanted it like this, many others at GIO, too.
If the girl wants to earn triple or more of her anal rate jumping straight into DAP why not?!

I fully agree with preventing the usual Budapest import route! Again best prevention would be a re-activation of The White Models, though.

Agree, it's up to the girl what kind of contents she likes, is willing to perform, is at ease with. Said that, I also like to see kind of evolution, from a simple 1on1, which can be so good, even outstanding, to more extreme contents. Frankly I find quite often 1on1 scenes so much better than so called gangbangs, with more of, say, 5 guys. Obviously in a 1on1 scene the stud's quality is decisive. For example i like so much those Mr Anderson's introductions on improvised sets in Russia. The other Russian boys are really not bad either. Also nice and intense the scenes with Mike Chapman and Dylan Brown, where the presence of big black cocks is obviously a great bonus.

If you want 1-1 go to Elegaht Angel or Rocco where you see 9/10s regularly unlimited scenes included in membership

I can answer you by suggesting to visit some sites specialized on Gangbangs, like for example GGG, 666 and Premium Bukkake. You can be sure I visit the sites you suggests and many others still. Luckily I can enjoy many kinds of porn and, as said, pretty often a 1on1 is hotter and more exciting than a gangbang.

[grey00owl]

1 on 1 scenes are great for me as long as they meet these requirements:

- It is a black dude or Mr. Anderson, I guess avery old white man could be fine, but I don't GIO has any.

- It has balls deep moments, the longer, and better the best.

- Very minimum cowgirl or girl on top positions, or not at all

- A lot of doggy, standing up, and prone bone

- No milfs

But that's just my preference, anyone can have different preferences.

It is true that the orgies are the best. but I imagine those are very expensive to make.

I do like the 5 on 1 BBC, and 7 on 1 BBC videos, and those waka waka ones, but even a solid 3 on 1 BBC with balls deep is great too.

Partially agree. About the male performer, deep balls Anal, doggy, standing, pronebone fucking. Also agree about 3on1 BBC and Waka Waka.
Disagree about cowgirl position: it's amazing to see a big cock disappearing inside a nice ass from a rear sight. Take for example some GONZO scenes with Chris Diamond (with Scarlet Domingo, Emily Pink, Daniela Ortiz and many others)! Also reverse cowgirl with "kuckmal" (displayng of gape) can look awesome.
Also disagree about orgies being the best scenes: on the contrary they can be very confusing and boring.

[IndyPleco]

Doenst it depend on the girl?
May Thai for instance wanted it like this, many others at GIO, too.
If the girl wants to earn triple or more of her anal rate jumping straight into DAP why not?!

I fully agree with preventing the usual Budapest import route! Again best prevention would be a re-activation of The White Models, though.

Agree, it's up to the girl what kind of contents she likes, is willing to perform, is at ease with. Said that, I also like to see kind of evolution, from a simple 1on1, which can be so good, even outstanding, to more extreme contents. Frankly I find quite often 1on1 scenes so much better than so called gangbangs, with more of, say, 5 guys. Obviously in a 1on1 scene the stud's quality is decisive. For example i like so much those Mr Anderson's introductions on improvised sets in Russia. The other Russian boys are really not bad either. Also nice and intense the scenes with Mike Chapman and Dylan Brown, where the presence of big black cocks is obviously a great bonus.

This. Thinking that more dicks make a scene more hardcore is like not knowing how to play the guitar but buying a 9-string thinking you'll sound more metal.

[shark1]

I was just looking through with so much sadness about what happened to LP. I’ve only bought 3 scenes this year where before I would have bought 30% of GG scenes, ie all his creampie to other girls mouth scenes.

Now we have trans and pee (which I don’t mind) but they are now becoming the top sellers, changing the demographic/target of GG, instead of just getting hot girls like before.

The excuse for so many 1-1 scenes was you can’t start hard but that’s bullshit. Kira Thorn started with 10 guys and Isabella and she was licking out 10 Black guys anal creampies from a prolapsed asshole on her FIRST INTRO SCENE!!!! Soon she was getting DAPd on most scenes with multiple guys. That’s how LP was WHAT HAPPENED? Please GG bring back the multiple creampies to other girls mouths. If you want to do one facial at the end that’s fine but just one. Look at the poll on the general forum which I posted we have 50+ votes. There was another similar poll few months back which also got 30+ votes but GG hasn’t commented.

Please GG make LP great again. Or please LP make GG great again.

You complain about not getting hot girls yet you complain the girls aren't doing enough DAP scenes. If you want endless DAP you are going to get the worn out ones that are okay with endless tip fucking

[Starrio]

1 on 1 scenes are great for me as long as they meet these requirements:

- It is a black dude or Mr. Anderson, I guess avery old white man could be fine, but I don't GIO has any.

- It has balls deep moments, the longer, and better the best.

- Very minimum cowgirl or girl on top positions, or not at all

- A lot of doggy, standing up, and prone bone

- No milfs

But that's just my preference, anyone can have different preferences.

It is true that the orgies are the best. but I imagine those are very expensive to make.

I do like the 5 on 1 BBC, and 7 on 1 BBC videos, and those waka waka ones, but even a solid 3 on 1 BBC with balls deep is great too.

Partially agree. About the male performer, deep balls Anal, doggy, standing, pronebone fucking. Also agree about 3on1 BBC and Waka Waka.
Disagree about cowgirl position: it's amazing to see a big cock disappearing inside a nice ass from a rear sight. Take for example some GONZO scenes with Chris Diamond (with Scarlet Domingo, Emily Pink, Daniela Ortiz and many others)! Also reverse cowgirl with "kuckmal" (displayng of gape) can look awesome.
Also disagree about orgies being the best scenes: on the contrary they can be very confusing and boring.

I disagree, cowgirl sucks and it always will. Cowgirl only works for DP, DAP, TAP, etc., because there you always have a guy on top.

On 1 on 1 scenes they are just plain boring.

I also disagree about orgies not being better, the more girls the better, the experiments have been done even with mouse, is basic science.

That said, they are too expensive to make, and 1 on 1 scenes can be great if done right, GIO is good at doing 1 on 1 scenes in general.

In U.S. 1 on 1 scenes usually suck, no anal, lots of cowgirl, lots of close ups to the pussy, no pounding, and definitely no balls deep, they are just plain terrible.

GIO On the other hand has some very good 1 on 1 scenes. It also helps that European girls are often incredibly hot because they look like girls you would marry, not like girls in porn, with fake tits, and fake everything, and that definitely helps.

[dap-addict]

You complain about not getting hot girls yet you complain the girls aren't doing enough DAP scenes. If you want endless DAP you are going to get the worn out ones that are okay with endless tip fucking

If DAP was just easy and soft tip fucking only as you claim, than much more girls would do it and more other studios as well.
Fact is DAP is still a challenge for most girls and if it wasnt payed that good and not demanded by studios with lots of work like LP girls would sure prefer easier scenes, lighter ones, more vanilla, more of what we get with most other studios.

[Starrio]

You complain about not getting hot girls yet you complain the girls aren't doing enough DAP scenes. If you want endless DAP you are going to get the worn out ones that are okay with endless tip fucking

If DAP was just easy and soft tip fucking only as you claim, than much more girls would do it and more other studios as well.
Fact is DAP is still a challenge for most girls and if it wasnt payed that good and not demanded by studios with lots of work like LP girls would sure prefer easier scenes, lighter ones, more vanilla, more of what we get with most other studios.

Balls deep pounding is better than DAP and like a hundred times more scarce.it is quite rare, and it has been like that forever on all porn.

The only ones that do balls deep often are the Japanese, but that's because they are doing the pussy, and they have tiny dicks.

Anal balls deep with big cocks is hard to get, specially on prone bone which looks the best. It is super rare and when you get it is glorious because you get to see the struggle she is facing.

[abcad90210]

Really stupid question what is balls deep? I thought it was just deep pounding and saw a dude actually put his balls inside her ass! https://www.xvideos.com/video24413589/b ... al_fucking

Which is it?

[Starrio]

Balls deep is just the opposite of tip fucking, basically going deep enough for the balls to pound against her skin, it is actually very rare, and very hard to get, most girls only get tip fucking.

The nicest is prone bone, but it is also very rare. I buy a lot of scenes with Dylan and Mike Chapman because they are the most likely to do it even if it is just for a moment.

Plus BBC is specifically great with black guys doing the girl because they have the biggest dicks.

[dap-addict]

Balls deep pounding is better than DAP and like a hundred times more scarce.it is quite rare, and it has been like that forever on all porn.

Balls deep was always scarce in porn, I agree.
But it got better over time due to DAP getting shot more over last 5-7 years, especially here at LP.
DAP doenst allow balls deep of course, its technically not possible, but if you get DAP in a scene you are also likely to get deeper 1on1 anal usually after DAP workout. Good example are the prone bone workouts you mention with Dylan. You get them in 1on1, but also after DAP workouts. DAP opens girls asses for more intensive anal only.
For me its a package, not an either or!

Btw, I can't recall the scene number just now but there is a very nice early Sara Bell GIO DAP fellowed by balls depp prone bone for instance. They clearly opened her by tip fucking DAP as you call it, but still 2 dicks in her pooper making it more flexible and more welcoming to that deep pounding true hardcore anal fans also want.

[dap-addict]

Btw, not Sara Bell here, but Ciara Riviera, but this is a good example for the DAP>balls deep prone bone example:

Dap Destination Ciara Riviera No Pussy, Balls Deep Anal, DAP, Gapes, 5 Swallow GIO791
https://pornbox.com/application#watch-page/34548

[dap-addict]

Or this one, even better because Kiara went straight to DAP @ GIO and still DAP opened her for real balls deep anal:

Waka Waka Blacks are coming Kiara Gold gets 5 BBC Crazy toys, Balls deep anal, DAP, Gapes, Swallow GIO1032
https://pornbox.com/application#watch-page/43758

Btw, better scene for you strato, if you dont like long obviously for logistic reasons not balls deep DAP sessions but longer prone bone.
The above Ciara scene features also Angelo fucking her prone bone before Dylan, though. But Angelo doenst go balls deep.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Trust me, there is absolutely no thought whatsoever put in to things like target audience. Not by xxx and not by any of the producers. They just all do whatever the hell they feels like for the moment and whatever happens happens. There is no plan or strategy.

When Giorgio was new here he put som serious effort in to finding good pretty girls for his scenes. Even going so far as to involving himself in a new talent agency (The White Models).
Nowadays it seems that just about any rugged old hag will do the trick. It doesn't even have to be a women. Just slap some makeup on there and we are ready to shoot. Or veteran performers with 40+ scenes already.

First, out of topic
Second, in normal time even how scenes follow one another in the shooting schedule and in the was the scenes are released, is based on a strategy
Third, models that get multiple shootings are part of a schedule that is studied to maximize sales. In this, is considered also the audience of the model, which leads to the conclusion that a 40 years girls could provide more sales than an 18 yo, the fact you personally do not like mature models is insignificant.

[Giorgio Grandi]

To close the topic: first scene(s) of a model have the meaning to test the audience.
So why to invest 4500$ for a DAP when it is possible to make a test with a BGa that costs 1/2 or so?

There is no reason to do this for the next 2 reason:

- if sales are good, means the model has an audience, so it means she can sell properly without DAP for some scenes, so to maximize profit is better to continue with DP and other stuff before the DAP (and to maximize the turnover of the model)

- if sales are low, means the model struggle to get an audience, so solutions are 2:
--- stop shooting the model
--- shoot extreme content
--- continue with "no dap" content to get confirmation she doesnt have an audience

On the Top of this, DAP takes time to be developed properly for most of models, so better if the model has an audience and taking slower than before.

And dont tell me that a scene with more boys and dap would give more sales and give more value to the model, because I am not stupid and I know about it.
We dont need only models selling because of the sexual act and selection needs to start at some point and until someone wont came up with a better idea this is how it is (this is what a forum should be, share suggestions to solve problems or change methods, not to rant about everything doesnt match you taste.

The rest of topic is a rant of personal opinion.
- I like reverse cowgirls
- I dont like cowgirls
- balls deep is good
- DAP is vanilla

Thinks do not have any meaning in this topic, but are just personal rants.

this is what the forum is nowadays, a topic about a specific matter, where the only one that suppose to answer is ME, haunted by personal requests and personal rants and gripes.

OUT OF TOPIC
I know, for you I am the arrogant one dont bother to tell me about that, I know how many of you think about us in this way.
I am the one taking the risk to produce the content so I have all the right to do what the fuck I believe is better (and numbers tell I am right otherwise I wont be where I am), make suggestions is different than just complain about what you do not like.
To complain you do not like this or that, is just pointless. If we do it is because there is a majority of users that likes it, we cant please everyone

[dap-addict]

To close the topic: first scene(s) of a model have the meaning to test the audience.
So why to invest 4500$ for a DAP when it is possible to make a test with a BGa that costs 1/2 or so?

With this point i fully agree!
Thank you, Giorgio, for all your explanations.
I shall think it over!

Just 1 question: So does it mean when you released 1 porn scenes being DAP by Nicole Black and also by Mai Thai that both were girls with no audience? Or why than did you shoot DAP as their 1st scene?

[Giorgio Grandi]

Because the audience at that moment was very different. Anything else than DAP would have been just wasting of time.
Audience is very different now, content without DAP can make enough sales to indicate potential of a model and eventually even make good profit.
When it doesnt make profit, with small investment is possible to understand if is worth to work on the developing of a model or not.

Example is Polina Maxim, a model that sells only under some very defined conditions (that are not connected to the sexual act), something we would not understand just shooting a DAP right away.
Said that, without several "no dap" scene, we would not have her even on LP as to bring her to DAP took time.

So, who watch only DAP, was able to get the DAP of Polina just because others supported her on other scenes. If you got her DAP, you need to say thank you to who watched her DP previously.

[hjohjole]

Third, models that get multiple shootings are part of a schedule that is studied to maximize sales. In this, is considered also the audience of the model, which leads to the conclusion that a 40 years girls could provide more sales than an 18 yo, the fact you personally do not like mature models is insignificant.

Sure, but how often?

If you look at this list over the most popular best selling models on the site, do you see many women over 40 here?
https://www.legalporno.com/model/list

Yes my opinion is insignificant. But are you really paying enough attention to what the LP audience wants? Have the basic preferences of the LP audience really changed so dramatically in 5 years time? I don't think so.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Third, models that get multiple shootings are part of a schedule that is studied to maximize sales. In this, is considered also the audience of the model, which leads to the conclusion that a 40 years girls could provide more sales than an 18 yo, the fact you personally do not like mature models is insignificant.

Sure, but how often?

If you look at this list over the most popular best selling models on the site, do you see many women over 40 here?
https://www.legalporno.com/model/list

Yes my opinion is insignificant. But are you really paying enough attention to what the LP audience wants? Have the basic preferences of the LP audience really changed so dramatically in 5 years time? I don't think so.

First, why this https://www.legalporno.com/model/list and not this https://pornbox.com/application#model/list

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Check this
https://pornbox.com/application#model/list
Page 1 and 2 and 3, there are several 35-40 years models that are worth more than many 18yo.

Said that, how many 40 years models are released at LP: a minority compare on under 30, so why even the topic when there is absolutely not much mature as it should be?
It doesnt even make sense and this is why it is also insignificant.
"oh my good, there are many 40 y.o. models", where the fuck are the releases?


Audience is 5 years grows a lot, become more mainstream and less "linked" to niches.

[hjohjole]

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Check this
https://pornbox.com/application#model/list
Page 1 and 2 and 3, there are several 35-40 years models that are worth more than many 18yo.

I wont deny that there are certainly some mature models that sell better than their younger competition. But they are in the minority.
The 3 first pages contain 120 models and i count only 8 or 9 matures there, and half of them are on page 3. Only on the first page i can count 8, 18/19 yo models (or who where 18/19 in their first scenes).

Said that, how many 40 years models are released at LP: a minority compare on under 30, so why even the topic when there is absolutely not much mature as it should be?
It doesnt even make sense and this is why it is also insignificant.
"oh my good, there are many 40 y.o. models", where the fuck are the releases?

There have been quite a lot of them in the last few years. It would be interesting to see some statistics about it.

Here are a few that have been booked again and again for many scenes each, despite average sales at best.

https://www.legalporno.com/model/6718/adeline_lafouine
https://www.legalporno.com/model/5100/valentina_sierra
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3812/sasha_colibri
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3355/kessie_shy
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3855/xxx_nikyta
https://www.legalporno.com/model/5487/julia_north
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3549/didevi

The list could have been made longer but i think i get the point across.

[Starrio]

Guys, let the older women work, and let them make money, don't complaint, if you don't like them don't buy their videos, as simple as that.

I don't buy videos with older women, I can repeatedly say I don't like them because I don't, but I won't mind if others buy their videos, it is their right, and who knows maybe some day I would like them too.

In fact, if you bring famous milfs like Ariel Piperfawn, Belicia Avalalos, Joana Redgrave, Zuzana Presova, etc., I would buy every single one because I love those women since I was a kid, so I also understand. Those are superstars in my eyes.

[Starrio]

The rest of topic is a rant of personal opinion.
- I like reverse cowgirls
- I dont like cowgirls
- balls deep is good
- DAP is vanilla

Thinks do not have any meaning in this topic, but are just personal rants.

this is what the forum is nowadays, a topic about a specific matter, where the only one that suppose to answer is ME, haunted by personal requests and personal rants and gripes.

Nonsense:

- I was defending GIO's 1 on 1 scenes, and why they can work too, people were saying 1 on 1 doesn't work, and I disagree, 1 on 1 scenes are great too

- I was stating my opinion, no demanding

- Those are not rants at all, just preferences we mention here in hope to see more of those

- I didn't say I like reverse cowgirl, I don't like any cowwgirls in general, unless is for DAP, then is a must, but I stated clear that's just me

- I would never consider DAP vanilla, DAP are cool, and I enjoy them a lot too, I just want more prone bone balls deep too, I like both worlds

- I said many times there are already many balls deep scenes you just have to look for them

In fact the latest Anne De Ville scenes have a lot of balls deep, and DAP so it wouldn't surprise me if they sell well.

Not everything has to be extreme, just have balls deep and prone bone standardized and it is good to go.

Prone bone doesn't have to be on the floor, just on the couch still looks great, it just great to look at, like this one with Taissia Shanti on the left, it is not even balls deep, it is not even layed down, and it still looks great:

[grey00owl]

- if sales are good, means the model has an audience, so it means she can sell properly without DAP for some scenes, so to maximize profit is better to continue with DP and other stuff before the DAP (and to maximize the turnover of the model)

And dont tell me that a scene with more boys and dap would give more sales and give more value to the model, because I am not stupid and I know about it.
We dont need only models selling because of the sexual act and selection needs to start at some point and until someone wont came up with a better idea this is how it is (this is what a forum should be, share suggestions to solve problems or change methods, not to rant about everything doesnt match you taste.

OUT OF TOPIC
I know, for you I am the arrogant one dont bother to tell me about that, I know how many of you think about us in this way.
I am the one taking the risk to produce the content so I have all the right to do what the fuck I believe is better (and numbers tell I am right otherwise I wont be where I am), make suggestions is different than just complain about what you do not like.
To complain you do not like this or that, is just pointless. If we do it is because there is a majority of users that likes it, we cant please everyone

Thank you ,Giorgio, for your comprehensive explanation! I found sometimes your tone arrogant, but I appreciate that you take your time to ask the users and make clear your position and choices: this is honest and fair. I find what you say here very reasonable.