Daniela Ray DAPbreakin' @ IV313

[dap-addict]

First impression assessment of this scene:

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/45826/daniela_ray_is_back_to_take_two_cocks_in_the_ass_iv313

I watched the crucial parts of special interest for me and assessing camerawork first only.
And there is a lot of improvement compared with IV288 but going back to around IV200ff really!

for instance:
- anal and DAP insertions are shown
- position changes are shown
- no close-up jumps from ass to face anymore, but much steadier and slower camera movements
- much more of totale camera positions

But there is one main bug still:
- Anal and DAP Insertions are still shot in close-up thus preventing to see the girls reaction. I dont know why they didnt change this - at least for some of the insertions.


Some bits about performance:
- Mr. Black as anchor in DAP really fucks fine and anchor also moves his dick finally. Some of the best anchor work I've seen at IV so far!
- Daniela has at least 1 DAPgasm on set!
- That 1st smile of hers at the end!

bug:
- its really a pity Joachim can get ready to discharge only with pussy fucking. Assfucking doest turn him on enough to get his cum-shot. They tried to hide it here a bit with close-ups and cuts, but its still noticeable there. Nothing big in a DAP scene including lots of DP, too. But striking still for such a long-time porn pro stud.

All in all DAP lasts 7-8min and its performed in the 2 standard positions rc and cg only.
DAPbreakin' quality is top notch for that first time, though!
Daniela Ray's pooper is little irritated after that workout.
She sure needs to work on gape-ability and anal still.

Daniela running up to her 1st DAPgasm in cowgirl position. (IV313)

[Asswatcher]

It was bad, joachim dont know how to fuck. No sperm in the tank. The ass was not open enough, looks like the girl was not relaxed during scene. Use buttplugs to prepare the ass if you want DAP. Show the gape, use more lube. Show the result at the end of scence.

We come here to look at girls wide open ass, not watch 2 black guys rub their dick at eachother xD i think joachim want us to look at him instead of the girl hahahaha!

Here much better scene.

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/43143/ ... tar_sz2203

[Moxoxo]

I like all her scenes, but i see we have a few Guys here just to complain. Camerawork, tipfuck, her butt is sore. Guys you don't like it, don't buy it. Porn should be fun for us and the actors. And Daniela is a great newcomer, she need time to take it better and deeper. Grom ma a big thanks to Joachim.

[dap-addict]

It was bad, joachim dont know how to fuck. No sperm in the tank. The ass was not open enough, looks like the girl was not relaxed during scene.

Thats unfair, sorry AW!
You cannot expect from a girl of Daniela Ray's experience to perform what you ask for on spot. And you also cannot expect her to be perfectly relaxed in such a difficult scene.
On top her position is not ideal, it may therefore hurt. This and only this is Joachims fault, if everything at all.
DAP-ing is of course not deep, first because girl isn't open and experienced yet, 2nd because position isn't ideal. BUT its still a pretty good first DAP for Daniela!

[joachim-kessef]

hi
Asswatcher fort you it not good?

[YumYum74]

Although I did not like Daniela's styling that much compared to her Gonzo scenes, I was impressed with the overall quality of the scene. Definitely worth the tickets.

[joachim-kessef]

you have the right to not like

[dap-addict]

you have the right to not like

Would be nice Joachim, if you would comment also my assessment of IV313 - first post in this thread.
I really invested some time telling for a constructive critic.
What you think of it?

[joachim-kessef]

Critic is good some specific case like about camera work or put camera on that way whatever it not big deal but when it come to just critic everything sometime there is nothing to critic so if fans doesn't like something i try to understand that not cricize everything doesn't make sounds for me sometime i wish fans make rationnel proposal; sometime does so we see

[dap-addict]

I hope you realized that I liked much more than I criticized in that IV313 scene!

Joachim, as an actor, could you assfuck the girls prior to shooting-off your cum?
Or: why you fuck 95% the girls pussy before coming?

[joachim-kessef]

i fucked also in the ass too to come it depend the feeling if you fuck girl all time in anal if to come you go in pussy i dont thinks so it 3min of pussy will kill your fantasie come on it funny lol

[dap-addict]

Funny maybe. I got sued to it almost 100%.
But you do it 95% of your endings, not 50 : 50, that makes me still wonder why?

[joachim-kessef]

so it a problem ? now ?

[joachim-kessef]

that what i am talking about critic for critic sometime it nothing scene are hard 2 min or 3 min of pussy require a debate now ?

[dap-addict]

Sorry, Joachim, you are right.
No discussion needed here about that!
Its your special signature as an actor in every scene, its just the way you do it.


But maybe take almost only bug instead?

But there is one main bug still:
- Anal and DAP Insertions are still shot in close-up thus preventing to see the girls reaction. I dont know why they didnt change this - at least for some of the insertions.

Any reason for having the camera always still shoot close-ups during insertions instead of good visible frames which show the reaction of the girl immediately because we see her face?


Btw, did I stress enough that this IV313 all in all is a big leap forward for your studio in my opinion?! I did like it really a lot!

[joachim-kessef]

Hi
i do shot that sometime in some specific position like when the girls sit on guys it not interesting but i alway shoot when gil is on cow girl and sit face to camera look that

[joachim-kessef]

that what we are talking about like some scenes majority of people like and some some people dont like
and again of course it not about you dap addict really this time i take you out of that but people want to criticize for no reason i am talking about that beautiful and you agree with me she did her best and we also try everything of course she is not Sindy rose it mean people want to speak to not said nothing
and something if fans want to make the movie at our place that what that mean for my side the are free to do that it clear

[dap-addict]

and again of course it not about you dap addict really this time i take you out of that but people want to criticize for no reason i am talking about that beautiful and you agree with me she did her best and we also try everything of course she is not Sindy Rose

Joachim, I dont think they just want to criticize for no reason, but their problem is they dont know how such porn scenes are shot.
And this is a great field you can give your experience, explain from your POV why more wasnt possible etc. Explain why the result you got is already good etc.

Look I just had this poster in another thread claiming that girls on LP are all pressured to DAP. Its an utter lie and just 100% bullshit of course. But most fans of these girls dont know nothing. They either think all they do here is not based on their free will but pressure (basically the ant-porn fraction still watching porn of course) or they think girls are just machines and they can do all at once (dream fanboy fraction, or ppl just lost in porn entertainment with no reality check anymore). I guess only one third of fans/users are in the middle sadly. But number is growing because of forum and girls themselves as well as insiders like you and others explaining what is happening outside of the final video.

Thus you always have to decide wheter critics have a reality check or none at all.
Those without reality base you just have to learn to not let depress you, the same as you have to ignore fans asking for girls already retired a long time ago or not ready for anal/DAP.
But to many users/fans you can actually explain a lot.
And such explanations create strong links helping your sales in the end. Because users start to value what they get!

[joachim-kessef]

Thanks to bring that situation it manty question in that topic
first in my studio we dont force girls to do double anal and you know that well i release simple dp scene too
about tom not communicate with people i always think and i am still think i will use france word for that
(le linge sale se lave en famille)it mean wha happened in business stay between us excepthy when you post those post i decide to not answer no need to said that again
beside that like you said many users claim sometime girls who retire it mean there is any objectivity at all girls who is selling good change
why some fans decide to not support this studio or not many questions
but what i can said here is i am trying to focus my work some fans want also to be more brutal i refuse that option too interracial it not the excuse to to be animal
so time is changing we will see

[dap-addict]

first in my studio we dont force girls to do double anal and you know that well i release simple dp scene too

I know that exactly of course!
But another fan of a girl you shot recently claimed that in her model thread.
I reacted already. Maybe you want to explain it as well...
For me its just an example about how completely uninformed some posters are.

interracial it not the excuse to to be animal

Really like this answer, Joachim!
This said some manhandling, if the girl is into it of course, can't harm. Its intensity, not brutal of course. Brutal is something different. You agree?

[joachim-kessef]

i fully agree whith you
which girls claim which one show me the post
please show me

[Asswatcher]

i fully agree whith you
which girls claim which one show me the post
please show me

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/45858/ ... ulls_iv314

This is better scene, use buttplugs and big dildos to open her up before. So her ass is wideopen and relaxed, dont fuck to fast because asshole will close.

[Asswatcher]

i fully agree whith you
which girls claim which one show me the post
please show me

Here is good girl, shes relaxed in anoos. We wanna see some african guy from togo which swimm across the ocean to europe and who first time see white women and want to fuck her like if it will be his last time in life. We dont need rich french black guy, its boring. Bring some young horny black guys who never saw white pussy and want to spearm inside her asshole because he cant control himself.

[joachim-kessef]

That i dont have so what to do?

[joachim-kessef]

look if you want to said you dont like it fine no problem but i can not do more than that or i will suggest you to watch something else
instead to speak of togo or rich french guy if you dont liker it ok i respect all even but no need to use those words

[craig.cagle]

I thought it was a good first attempt at a DAP for Daniela Ray. I think she is the sexiest new model LP currently has. Now, please feed this girl some piss for her to swallow for us!

[joachim-kessef]

good proposal lol

[dap-addict]

Are there any plans to get Daniela Ray back to IV, Joachim?
Except Sindy Rose IV has no model very much associated with your studio.
Maybe Daniela could become such one?

[joachim-kessef]

Hi
Right now it look like when i send her message she didn't answer me Rumor machine again

[dap-addict]

Didnt she earn good easy money with you?!

[joachim-kessef]

She get paid what i paid for that type of scene

[dap-addict]

And both shootings lasted up to 3h?
And not 6 hours or so?

[joachim-kessef]

the scene take whatever time for me it take time requirement to give good scene to fans it important that why i said it not money who give good scene it participate that but automatically believe i paid some model here and i will not give the name those scene didn't sell worst thing some people said it tip fucking yes so i dont know howe to explain but it was not money issue

[dap-addict]

I write it on and on about TIP FUCKING: Its stupid to think money can make fucking deeper.
MONEY can motivate a girl to push her envelope, to try sth new, give DAP a trial etc.
But she performs according to her talent, her experience, her trust in the studs, mood on set etc.
The more experienced she is the better she performs in general.
And here its - or at least should be!!! - clear to everybody that Daniela Ray is a new girl and she can't take all big cocks balls deep at this stage of her porn career!

About time to shoot I asked only because if her on-set time lasted really very long thats maybe the reason she doesn't answer anymore?

[joachim-kessef]

Oh it fine to ask i agree all you said here about performing i wish all guys heard but we know the will not listen but i fully agree what you said

[dap-addict]

Generally its always the same posters complaining about tip fucking. Some of them you may simply ignore because everybody knows they dont know much about how scenes are shot.
It gives you some anti-R maybe, and thats bad, but its wrong to assume consumers dont have their own heads and minds and likes etc.
Scenes still sell mainly by sex act @ girl and overall filming and picture quality.

This said I think of course we all are against tip fucking and pornographers know about positions to make it look better and tricks to make those girls feel more relaxed and thus able to take a deeper pounding. But for some new girls thats not enough. Now, going back to Daniela Ray, she did a pretty good job and took it pretty deep for a rookie - especially in her end scene!

Btw, from your POV what did she manage better DPP or DAP?
And why?

[joachim-kessef]

She manage good dp and double vaginan and simple anal but double anal it was not easy for her i explain her she has potential to do that but she is scare not enough relax she could be good if she decide that herself to not listen all those people and those rumors

[allerius4]

She manage good dp and double vaginan and simple anal but double anal it was not easy for her i explain her she has potential to do that but she is scare not enough relax she could be good if she decide that herself to not listen all those people and those rumors

A lot of people including me are absolutely amazed from her double vaginal performence. If double anal is too hard for her, why push her and try to convince her to do it? Just continue with the Double vag + DP scenes and I am sure she will sell great. I certainly dont need another DAP only girl. This girl has big talent for double vag, it would be waste to not continue with it. Great job Joachim with the last scene I hope I will see simmilar scenes in the future. Also, wanted to ask. Do you think you could try to shoot more DVP in King of clubs position? Its the one thing I am missing, there is hundreds of DAPs in King of Clubs and almost NONE double vaginals in KoC. Thanks in advance

[dap-addict]

She manage good dp and double vaginan and simple anal but double anal it was not easy for her i explain her she has potential to do that but she is scare not enough relax she could be good if she decide that herself to not listen all those people and those rumors

Its really a pity, Joachim!
So sad rookie girls rather listen dumb rumors than directors actually caring for them and their career.
Deeper laying problem Daniela might not understand yet is with just anal/DP/dpp she won't get far here, she thus has to dwell on her further anal potential and just let it go and relax.
I dont know but when she doesn't even answer your calls inviting your for more IV scenes something is fishy.
For her I just hope she'll find somebody she trusts to open her up really!
Would be so much lost for all LP if she went just like this!

[dap-addict]

Btw, Joachim, during your work with her for IV313 and IV315 did you get the impression you have a good connection with her?
Or was she sort of mentally absent most of the time?