GIO studio suffering from its own success?

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GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:55 pm

GIO sales have probably be never as good as in 2018.
Still, posts like this one make me wonder wheter at the end my favorite LP studio since its creation could not fall victim of its own success? :confused:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:LP is getting bigger and bigger. More members and I believe just a small part of them are here just for DAP, this explain the rest. DP is still something I am going to select carefully the models, but we are getting somewhere and its worth to try.


So again, Giorgio Grandi will try to shoot sth else than what he does best.
And yes, its always good to develop new skills, feel a new wave, jump on it and ride it eventually really fine maybe.
Just whats the price? And dont you risk to forget your success model? :confused:

Me, I am small, not 1 Mio. of users of course, but me I come to GIO each evening hoping for a new DAPbreakin' or at least another hot DAP workout. I dont expect a new DP here, sure no DPbreakin' and also the seldom 1on1 anal workouts I take only if it features girls I really like a lot and know they have lots of chemistry with Dylan. For DPbreakin's to be honest I might check out gonzo studio, but generally I dont care about DPs much anymore. Its there and its a fine porn warm-up, thats it. Some girls want it, and its fine. But me I dont wanna pay for it basically since I skip it 90% of times watching my downloaded LP films.

Now as said, I am only 1 and not 1 Million. ;)
But than I am not alone, as recent sales statistics of the time of LP growth show... ;)
https://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2018
From TOP 100 in 2018 were...
75% DAP
23% dp
2% 1on1 anal

23% DP includes all Veronica Leal scenes - what I called The Leal-effect in another thread. And than half of those 20+ DPs are performed for US based LP studios by welknown US stars.

So, which conclusions to draw from this?
And thinking about the future of GIO studio, how to avoid it starts suffering from its own excellent DAP production based success?
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:29 pm

Some interesting additional data showing maybe why Giorgio Grandi is more interested in DP now than before:

If we compare TOP100 sales of 2017 - that is partly before the big US market opening and the big growth in overall tkt sales - and 2018 we get fellowing picture:
90% DAP
10% DP
0% 1on1 anal

10% DP consists of no Leal/Gerson/Goldie girl, but 3 welknown US girls shot in the second half of the year by new US based LP-linked studios.


and now interesting:
Market share of GIO studio in those TOP100 scenes went 2018 down from 60% (in 2017 - 60%!!! :D :D :D :cool: ) to about 55%. Not much you'd say, but it went down. Why? Because other studios, gonzo and US studios mainly, sold more DP, one might think. Probably true. And it shows also what not only me write in other threads: US opening brings a certain vanilla-isation to Europorn. :( :confused:
Nothing dramatic so far, but influence is clear. And if nothing changes end 2019 DP market share (= much softer porn sex act compared to DAP) may grow to over 25% and GIO TOP100 market share fall below 50%. This might well alarm a truly ambitious porn producer like Giorgio Grandi, who isn't just lazy and content to make a few bucks to just survive in biz.
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby drevokocur66 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:47 pm

imo GIO focuses too much on the art of illusion of DAP. Not fun to watch at all.

Over saturation of DAP. 100% DAP.. yawn.

I would rather see nice intense balls deep ass destruction, followed by some real deep, even if short, intense deep DAP action, instead of 30 minutes of faked and tip fuck DAP.
Arwen gold style DAP, I will watch that.

Of the wet content I support, GIO stuff is cookie cutter style production. Two guys/girl or two... anal, some DAP, insert 0 creativity wet content 3x a scene, money shot.. and done. Second part, more guys saturate scene with almost DAP content, insert wet content 3x a scene. Money shot and .. done.

If I was spending my tickets on dry content, Gonzo, hands down my choice at the moment. The previews look fantastic, balls deep, energetic ass pounding.

Who know, maybe 2019, LP will do wet with more regularity, commitment, and creativity and I can support dry content too.
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Postby Wotan29 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:37 pm

I know you are worried about your DAP addiction (and I can understand your more and more detailed statements all over the forum concering this subject from your point of view), but I fully agree with the post of drevokocur66.

Key points are:

1. Too little intensity/ballsdeep fucking
(DAP is fine, but really not the best for intense ballsdeep fucking - with some exceptions like for example Arwen Gold or Lyna Cypher. Really don´t understand this exaggerated DAP/0%Pussy focus. The pussy of some great girls is almost untouched even though they shot 10 or more scenes - just for example Anna de Ville or Jolee Love. Especially in case of Jolee Love this is completely incomprehensible for as we both know her DAP skills are not the best. So why not try to fuck her ballsdeep in DP?)

And even more important:
2. Lack of creativity
(For sure the most important thing in a porn scene is the girl and her attitude willing to perform crazy sex acts. But the "surrounding" is important, too - may it be a liitle story and/or a special location and/or a special outfit. To be honest there is almost zero creativity in Giorgio scenes since a year or so - with few exceptions. It´s still good porn and I´m very thankful, that he brings a lot of great girls to Prague ... but with these girls it could be so much better. The scenes are totally interchangeable. Okay, he has his studio and so new locations (for example some outside footage) are nearly impossible and new storylines are a bit limited - but I´m so bored with the everrecurring white studio with everytime the white sofa, the same pictures on the wall, the same plant in the room... and the girls everytime in similar outfits, doing similar things in a similar sequence and always ending with the classic moneyshot. Almost no new ideas, mostly routine. Sometimes it looks like Giorgio has lost his passion for shooting outstanding porn scenes and instead thinks "okay, if I shoot it like always, probably it will sell". A few days ago he wrote in another thread, he wants to shoot 50% of his scenes with a little story. Great, but he said something like that in the beginning of 2018 and nothing happened ... so what´s stopping him? Why not just do it, if it´s his wish and his aspiration. Lately he revived the clockworg gang (I guess in a Kristy Black scene). Sounds good at first sight, but actually it is a bad sign. No other new ideas instead of reviving an old idea? Come on. As I´m some kind of a storyteller in my job, I would have dozens of ideas within a few days. Just a quick shot: For example take another cult movie like "Clockwork Orange" (and man, those Belle Claire Clockwork Gang scenes were great...): Pulp Fiction. Take Dylan Brown and his best white stud as Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta, put them in black suits and make a Pulp Fucktion series. Storyline: They are profi killers and have the order to kill someone - of course a girl. But hey, the girl is so beautiful, so they give her a chance. Of course she has to promise to do nasty things to save her life. And the action starts...

I don´t want to be misunderstood: Still I´m waiting every night for the new Giorgio scene. But to be honest it´s because of the girl and the things she does, and not because I´m expecting something cool like a new scenario. Said that, not everything is gold with Gonzo aka Luis. There´s no story too and the scenes look also similar. But December 2018 was something like fresh air. A lot of pretty girls with passion and intensity and most important: really fucked by big dicks. If DAP is a part of it, that´s fine for me - but if not, passion and intensity is the success key!

Come on, Giorgio! Give us a phenomenal 2019 with great girls (that´s the duty) and with great new ideas (that´s the freestyle).

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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:42 pm

pff
I dont get it really. Im not suffering and for sure I could not suffer my own success.

I absolutely not have problem to shoot more DP and less DAP if it makes sense with sales. Even selling a bit less, I would prefer to shot DP than DAP.
I dont have any personal obsession with DAP and yes I need variety of more themea and Im working on it.

Im not selling much different than 6 months ago, more or less its the same. Its normal some months are better then other. Gonzo is selling better than before and this is good, they improved a lot and this will increase members and so on.
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:39 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I absolutely not have problem to shoot more DP and less DAP if it makes sense with sales.

pff, Giorgio, it doesnt make sense in sales terms and you know it exactly.
Just look at your 2018 DP sales!
Still, you still try. :confused:

And with suffering from your own success I didnt meant really to suffer success of course...! ;) What I meant is that GIO is a porn brand closely associated with DAP production now and porn users visiting your LP sub-site will expect DAP, not DP. Thats the problem in selling DP now all over a sudden again after your very start in 2015.
Even Stacy Storm doest really perform so very good with her DP only, even though she is suuuuuper attractive, such super tits and an ex-softcore glamour model etc. But isnt that because you shoot 1st DAP best and DP of course you shot fine but not many users really want only DP from you, knowing you can almost certainly convince her to perform DAP for you later? ;)
1on1 anal is different of corse. For its raw GIO 0% pussy hardcore! :cool:
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby magizi877 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:38 pm

Hey Giorgio, I been sporadically buying your scenes.

I bought the 1 on 1 scenes with Nicole Black and Sasha Sparrow.

I didn't like the one with Nicole, I knew it would suck just by watching the trailer, but I bought it anyway because of her extreme beauty. lol

I kinda expect those 1 on 1 scenes to be rough and hard. Like the one with Sasha, loved that scene.

I know most of your fans want a steady flow of DAP movies, but I really appreciate those 1 on 1 scenes with Dylan. I think he still holding back tho, but the more scenes he is solo, the better he will become, I hope there is enough people buying those scenes to make it worth it for you.

Also bought the new 2 on 1 scene with Stacy, great scene, kinda short, but the sex was so much better than what I expected.

Her body reminds me to Alice Miller somehow. I hope your studio develops her career in a similar fashion to Nicole Black, with many scenes. And hopefully not just that one DP scene.

She seems more willing to be fucked hard and with her gorgeous good looks, seems like a recipe for a successful and profitable career at Giorgio studios.

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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby Wotan29 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:54 pm

Give up, dap-addict. You may lobby DAP/0% Pussy as much as you can with 1000 posts per month, it will not work that all directors and all users follow your opinion... ;)

In many things we have a consensual opinion. But I´ve never really understood your pussy hate (culminating in those, sorry, silly comments like "Alert! There was a one second wrong pussy insertion in the scene. Please cut it out.")

Get used to watch hard, ballsdeep pussy sex again (of course integrated in DP :D) and enjoy it! It will make you a happier man and you don´t have to complain so much. I don´t want to offend you, but sometimes I wonder how you "survive" your private life with your pussy hate... Or did all girls you were with say "Don´t touch my pussy, just fuck my ass"?

Every girl deserves to be loved for all her holes...

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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:01 pm

Wotan, dis I mention 0% pussy in OP? :confused:
You completely miss the subject here, sorry! :mad:
Lets better talk OP please, its much much much more relevant than what secondary fetishes I may have in my porn use!
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby kidloco2 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:28 pm

WTF is this past X-mas rage against LP and studios, dap-addict? Man, give them a little slack. Please.
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Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:34 pm

Did you read more than just the subject, kidloco2? :confused:

Its never been better than now, but I am not convinced LP needs one more studio shooting DPs really. Thats all basically.
Also there is some sales data to assess and some trends assessed by me already.
Nothing dramatic, as I clearly stated, but... :)

Again; I have never spend so much $$$ on LP like now! I got 2 DAPs every day in 2019 so far, its really wonderful. :D :D :D
But I dont want more DP and less DAP in 2019, thats it for me. And all data in OP and end post can still be analyzed, nothing lost doing it, really. :)
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby error01x » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:50 pm

Giorgio's work is very good, even he make my dream series come true DAP creampie. Yeah the series needs improvements, but all things need improvements. Overall a very good start. The only thing that could be better are more new girls that look like models.
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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby teammelee15 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:11 am

IMO....Leave DP to the monster Gonzo crew!

GG guys dont cut it for DP... Sh@t few of them barley make the cut for DAP... :(

But DAPAddict pointed this out about Glam porn awhile back....and well that garbage didnt slow down DAP content so....

Would you rather go back to GG releasing 2-3 scenes a week addict like he did just a year ago???

So long as the content is being pumped out I dont care if it's not 100% DAP all the time.

Keep saying VARIETY!

Now to say 5 years from now will LP still be shooting mostly DAP stuff....Probably not.. But who knows. Well probably be fing our rubber f#ck dolls or something....
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Postby dap-addict » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:19 am

teammelee15 wrote:But DAPAddict pointed this out about Glam porn awhile back....and well that garbage didnt slow down DAP content so....
Would you rather go back to GG releasing 2-3 scenes a week addict like he did just a year ago???

I was wrong, and I am glad about. And no, I'd rather take 10 GIO releases per week in 2019.
But basically AMEN to your post! :) :cool:
Its good as it is and I shall buy still 90+% of GIO DAPs and the rest rather not, except Dylan nailing a cutie really balls deep in prone bone on the studio floor. ;)
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Postby error01x » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:30 am

As magizi87 said we could improve the studs DAP performance a bit

quote="magizi87"To Giorgio and Interracial Vision.

The real reason behind GONZO rise to the top

Explained with gifs.

Natasha Teen - SZ2111

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Notice how BOTH actors, are pumping in and out, energetically
and not just moving their hip but their cock is actually
moving in and out of her body.

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in all DAP positions

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Now, IMO as in IN MY OPINION

This next gif, is representative of how I perceive DAP
happen in most Giorgio movies and ALL Interracial Vision movies.
(In IV's case, it's actually much worse because one of the guys is tip-fucking
and the other one, is just not doing anything, I just don't have footage because
I think all your movies are so crappy) :(

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Notice how the anchor dude, the man underneath Nicole Black,
the man with all the tattoos on his arms, is just kinda moving his hip, or something
but his dick is not sliding a single inch inside Nicole's body.

I don't like making crappy gifs.

gif 4244 is a crappy gif, because it's supposed to be depicting DAP
as in Double Anal **PENETRATION**

I DON'T SEE THE ANCHOR DUDE,
PENETRATING NICOLE'S BODY


Signed, a LegalPorno fan.

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Postby kidloco2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:50 pm

The anchor dude is actually fucking the other guy's dick :D . We all know DAP is not real in most of the cases.

IMHO (not only) LP donated a great deal to the fact that DAP is not DAP anymore. It's anal + another dick sticked to the first one. Or in better case, two dicks quickly switching anal - while rubbing each other.
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Postby Wotan29 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:59 pm

As much as I generally love DAP, I have to say: DP is the much better act to just fuck the girls ballsdeep into Nirvana, :D

And if DAP, please as deep and as intense as possible. Tipfucking sucks and ruins every scene.

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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby JayJams » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:28 am

Personally, I think dap-addict is suffering from lack of other hobbies. :p

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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 am

Just trying to make this a better wold, ya know! ;)

kidloco2 wrote:The anchor dude is actually fucking the other guy's dick :D . We all know DAP is not real in most of the cases.

IMHO (not only) LP donated a great deal to the fact that DAP is not DAP anymore. It's anal + another dick sticked to the first one. Or in better case, two dicks quickly switching anal - while rubbing each other.

Reminds me of a video somewhere on YT or IS with 2 Russian talent talking about shooting in Prague. One of them is afraid of the DAP, the other consoles her telling her there was 1 dick in the ass only anyway, but it always looked like two. LOL! Or was it a fans ask porngirl live? Don't remember now, but thats what the girl claimed. At the same time actually performing for GIO she made a drama in DAP, I checked it than. A drama just for single anal? :mad: :confused:

Summarize: What we know from now is that 10min of DAP footage doest consist of 10min both dicks inside that 1 tight asshole, but also not 0 minutes! Its maybe 2 to 5.
Now what we need is to exercise user quality control and make-DAP-great-again!
Watch some old Anabolic DAPs and ask same quality from GIO, too! :cool:
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Postby ayrtight » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:24 am

I am happy that Giorgio is shooting more Dp , but I agree with the criticism that some of his scenes and dressing styles look interchangeable .
Still , there are regularly good scenes which I buy .

I don´t undestand the obsession with DAP , but I see that lots of members here prefer it , so I have learned to live with it . Point is that when I see a 5on1 , with bonus barefoot and double blowjobs I get tempted to buy it , even if there is no DP ( It happens often ) . But if these scenes also had some partial DP ( 30 % , 40 % , 50 % etc ) , then I would probably buy much more such scenes , and not wait until they fall into the free tix category ( old system ) .

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Re: GIO studio suffering from its own success?

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:33 am

dap-addict wrote:Now what we need is to exercise user quality control and make-DAP-great-again!
Watch some old Anabolic DAPs and ask same quality from GIO, too! :cool:


Reference from old pre-LP style quality DAP from the just de-throned DAP QUEEN Sandra Romain - just as an inspiration: :)
Only about 20% of all her 51 DAPs were longer than 5 minutes after cutting her raw DAP footage. Today we often get up to 15min DAP with GIO, which is fine, but only if quality is good!

SANDRA ROMAIN ALTERED ASSHOLES 2 PLATINUM (ca.10min DAP/minimum 6 on-set DAPgasms) - dir. John Strong (2004)
SANDRA ROMAIN Tournante ANABOLIC (ca.9min DAP/1st TAP/minimum 3 on-set DAPgasms) - dir. JYL (2003)
SANDRA ROMAIN Butt Gallery 1 LEX DRILL (ca. 6min DAP/minimum 6 on-set DAPgasms, bd!) - dir. Jerome Tanner aka Lex T. Drill (2003)
SANDRA ROMAIN Double Anal Plugged RED LIGHT (ca. 6min DAP/minimum 4 on-set DAPgasms) - dir David Luger (2003)
SANDRA ROMAIN Tear Me a New One 3 RLD (ca. 6min DAP/minimum 2 on-set DAPgasms, wild!) - dir. Jack Malone (2006)
SANDRA ROMAIN Ass Wreckage PLATINUM (5min DAP/minimum 8 on-set DAPgasms) - dir. Kyle Ireland (2004)
SANDRA ROMAIN Four on the Whore 2 RLD (5min DAP/minimum 4 on-set DAPgasms) - dir. John Strong (2006)
SANDRA ROMAIN Outnumbered 2 RED LIGHT (5min DAP/minimum 2 on-set DAPgasms) - dir. Erik Erverhard (2003)
SANDRA ROMAIN UNNATURAL SEX 13 DIABOLIC (ca. 5min DAP/no DAPgasms) - dir. Chico Wang (2004)

Some Millennium turn cult directors for these DAPs as we see! :D :cool:
Now lets re-watch some of these and compare with Giorgio Grandi DAP quality of 10-15 years later!
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