The Veronica Leal effect @ GIO

[dap-addict]

Fellowing the first 4 to 6 and now 2-3 LP directors works for years I find it always interesting to see power of good-mannered competition.
2018 was worst year in these terms actually since most of the year there was no competition really but a GIO sales dominance.
Than finally Luis woke up - not so at all Joachim who seems to play always out of the field really - and completion of porn schools started again. Interesting influences vice-versa!

Effect of GIO pressure on Luis/gonzo is quite obvious, but the other way round first effects only now begin to show!
I first see it in my shopping basket: In 2019 I didnt buy 3 out of 8 scenes so far for lack of DAPs.
Not that I wouldn't like the girls, its just that trying to economize my porn spendings a bit I decided on a strict no DAP = no buy rule. Exception are solidarity issues of course, i.e. eventual DAPbreakin' is granted, but it needs an non-DAP detour to warm a rookie up for it. Now neither May Thair nor Angel Piaff are such a case, Stacy Bloom maybe yes.

Maybe... because what I also see is what I call The Veronica Leal-effect.

sz2077 heavily based on DPP, a middle sales Luis @ gonzo scene with Veronica Leal being LPs 2018 success story.

Veronica Leal-effect because her sales success suggests that maybe expensive to shoot DAP may not be needed anymore for the actual sample of LP users to gain top sales. Thus also meaning less investment in a scene may result in higher profit than more investment. The old - very much over-generalized of course - rule of TOP investment = TOP sales wouldn't work anymore. And TOP investment 2013 to 2018 involved DAP or DAP + wet.

Thus, if Veronica Leal works so fine for gonzo, why not try to shoot cheaper scenes and check how they really sell @ GIO?
And I got the impression the first few scenes of this new GIO prototype production batch are currently tested on us. Tell me I am wrong, Giorgio, but thats my impression!
Effect would be a light version of GIO in 2019, IF this model sells that is, of course.
Because what works for gonzo may not automatically work at GIO.


Now lets say I was right:
That isn't all just only a negative development for hardcore anal porn of course, but a double-bound new trend.
Because The Veronca Leal sales success @ gonzo isn't just because she doesn't perform expensive-to-book DAP, but because what she still does perform she does balls deep, and with both her fuckers moving, thrusting into her ass and pussy and actually fucking her deep, fast and hard.
Almost every Ed/Chris workout @ gonzo now is a counterpoint to any Neeo/Angelo DAP @ GIO.


So the Leal-effect applied properly @ GIO, too, would lead
1) to sub label opening up for DP and dpp, maybe only in order to get the girl perform DAP her 2nd or 3rd scene for sure
2) up-grading DAP scenes by having studs actually fuck the girls ass really simultaneously - instead of only pretending to do so, or having only dickhead inside - digging deeper.

2nd part of that supposed Leal-effect would be very welcome!
And 1st part I'd still really also support changing my LP shopping habits IF my solidarity would lead to a DAPbreakin' soon after DP/dpp/anal only.
Finally, of course not every girl can go from 0 to 100, i.e. perform a DAP in her first GIO scene. That was always the case. But shooting DPP @ GIO really confused me!

[Giorgio Grandi]

We have a precedent very high rank without DAP: GOLDIE
Very cute, petite, fucked from big dicks (that with her looks even bigger) I do not think you should be surprised. The problem is that there are not so many girls in that niche.

Also, LP is getting bigger and bigger. More members and I believe just a small part of them are here just for DAP, this explain the rest. DP is still something I am going to select carefully the models, but we are getting somewhere and its worth to try.

[allerius4]

We have a precedent very high rank without DAP: GOLDIE
Very cute, petite, fucked from big dicks (that with her looks even bigger) I do not think you should be surprised. The problem is that there are not so many girls in that niche.

Also, LP is getting bigger and bigger. More members and I believe just a small part of them are here just for DAP, this explain the rest. DP is still something I am going to select carefully the models, but we are getting somewhere and its worth to try.

Angel Piaff is amazing performer, when I saw on [spam] that she did DPP with Giorgio I was confused as fuck. Very welcomed scene for me, she can take DPP much more easily than DAP and thats something that most of the models cant do. Would be shame to tryhard DAP with her when she can do this amazing scene. Of course most models are here for anal and cant do DPP, keep shooting DAP with them if they are willing to continue.

[lambok]

Because The Veronca Leal sales success @ gonzo isn't just because she doesn't perform expensive-to-book DAP, but because what she still does perform she does balls deep, and with both her fuckers moving, thrusting into her ass and pussy and actually fucking her deep, fast and hard.

That is IMHO absolutely and 100percent true, you nailed it, thats the reason of success of her scenes.

I know it was said maybe lot of times before, but I think that it doesnt matter if the girl does "only" DP in her scene - it is about her performance/enthusiasm in general. And if I look in the history of all these dozens and dozens (maybe hundreds) LP DAP scenes, the girls were not performing very well, mainly because there is just a really small number of girls that can be fucked deep with 2 dicks moving visibly in ass. The majority of "normal" girls are just trying to do "something" in the scene, trying to move but without much success, guys are trying to move in her ass, without much success also. And the scene is therefore absolutely boring and awful to watch in general.

Of course that doesnt mean, that DP only scene cannot be boring in the same way, but in general even normal girls can do DP more easily.

And maybe my point of view is not like majority of others, but I watch porn to see girls enjoying the scene, fuck intensily, I am not interested in seeing girl trying "to survive" just becasue it is a fashion to shoot DAP or because the money is 3 times better. Of course I can watch Arwen Gold DAP scenes, because she is unnaturally gifted to open her ass for 2 cocks, but how many girls can do that? Maybe I can start a new thread to see how many we can count

[dap-addict]

That is IMHO absolutely and 100percent true, you nailed it, thats the reason of success of her scenes.
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And maybe my point of view is not like majority of others, but I watch porn to see girls enjoying the scene, fuck intensily, I am not interested in seeing girl trying "to survive" just becasue it is a fashion to shoot DAP or because the money is 3 times better.

I agree partly. But I think you dont fully grasp the meaning of DAP in porn.
DAP is sort of the last frontier of a girl. Its nothing fans expect to go smooth and deep really first time, rather on contrary, its an act most fans expect to be difficult and to show its an extra-mile she goes for us (and the much higher fee she gets for it of course! )

Now DAP can be trained, and as the number of DAP-able girls @ LP grows constantly users can fellow that process. GIO showed such a process very nicely with Nicole Black in 2018 for instance, others are more hidden, but you find them easily once you start to search for LP girls porn progress from anal/DP/dpp to DAP and maybe TAP or TP later. Most girls progress with time, and most arrive at a point far beyond just "to survive" as you call it.

This anal and DP are just normal porn acts we can sure expect to be deep and fast fucked, DAP however is much more difficult to perform and porn fans know that, they know that Arwen and Alysa were exceptional talents, out of this World basically. What they want is watching others on their way to muster it sort of fine also and eventually ideally arrive at a DAPgasm.

What the Leal-effect shows, however, is that users want also a mix of both, limitless deep double fucking as well as traditional LP DAP. And the latter ideally to get deeper and faster.

[dap-addict]

I watch porn to see girls enjoying the scene, fuck intensily, I am not interested in seeing girl trying "to survive" ...

...porn fans know that Arwen and Alysa were exceptional talents, out of this World basically. What they want is watching others on their way to muster it sort of fine also and eventually arrive at a DAPgasm, too.

Just as an illustration of the above, all hard fought for DAPgasm examples from LP:

Europorn reference point:

No really deep dapping, but the DAP-archetypical Sandra Romain getting off in her 51st DAP scene, the 1st one performed for LP.

Just an example of far from "to survive":

Dylan anchoring deeply and Angelo in alternative position fucking GIO trained Monika Wilde into a DAPgasm.

And a pladoyer for deep joy also on porn sets:

GIO trained Kira Thorn in a post-DAP bis interview about her besides-gaining-money motivation to shoot porn.

[error01x]

Giorgio I hope you'll try Veronica Leal out for some DAP scenes

[dap-addict]

We have a precedent very high rank without DAP: GOLDIE
Very cute, petite, fucked from big dicks (that with her looks even bigger) I do not think you should be surprised. The problem is that there are not so many girls in that niche.

Important objection based on a very valid porn and LP historic reference!
Thus its a certain body type exceptions: Basically 3 models since 2013 - Goldie - Gina Gerson - Veronica Leal
Or wouldn't you count Gina Gerson, Giorgio?

[error01x]

We waited 5 years, but now