Pros and cons of porn job (girls view)

[dap-addict]

Didnt find a thread really to post something like this, thus I thought I'll try to create a central one.

Sorry to start with cons, but pros are pretty obvious I guess:
High pay for a very short time of work.
Traveling (payed), freedom, porn lifestyle etc.

According to Renata Fox (22yo, 3y in the biz) posted recently on IS the cons are these:
Some quite funny and looking like nothing, some like that Budapest lab doctor quite concerning actually.

Ребят, я помню, что обещала написать про забавные случаи на съемках, но пока я над этим думала, в голове составилось другое.
ТОП-10 вещей, которые меня бесят в Порно:
1. Если Съемка с утра с аналом, то тебе нужно встать с петухами, чтобы успеть почиститься
2. Лубрикант, которого вечно мало, но который так и норовит помахать ручкой в кадре во время гейпа
3. Если у тебя Съемка вторая после кого-то, ты можешь долго и упорно ждать начала своей съемки
4. Если Съемка с аналом, то у тебя резко начинается голодание либо твоим верным другом становится иммодиум
5. Грация и прогибы. Во время прелюдии все мы гибкие кошки, но вот когда ты вот-вот кончишь, держать прогиб ой как тяжко
6. Каблуки в позе наездницы, которые срываются с дивана, и ты каждый раз в этот момент стараешься успеть спрыгнуть с члена, чтобы случайно его не покалечить
7. Девочки, которые приходят на макияж вторыми и при этом не почистившись. Без комментариев. Ненавижу ждать
8. Венгерские врачи, которые забирают кровь из вены без перчаток.
9. Режим дня, сна, питания, тренировок во время съёмок шлется так далеко, как не один хам вас не пошлёт
10. Таскать баулы с одеждой, чтобы тебя в итоге полностью нарядили в то, что является собственностью студии

1) 1st con = early morning rising if morning scene is anal:

An intimate romantic kiss after getting up very early for a morning anal scene. (GIO746)

[xxx]

Don't leave this to Google translate.

[dap-addict]

Right!

Top 10 things that enrage me on my porn job:
1. If you have a shooting in the morning with anal sex, you need to get up very early in order to have time to clean (my ass)
2. Lubricant, which is always too little, but which always leaks out into the camera frame during gapes
3. If you have a second shooting after sb else, you may have to wait very long for the start of your shooting.
4. (to be honest I am not really sure what she wants to say about immodium)
5. During the foreplay, we are all flexible cats, but when you are about to finish, you have to keep always the same position

next 5 cons of Renata Fox later...

[dap-addict]

4) well basically for anal scenes some girls fast and some eat but use immodium instead.

Renata seems to think she is the 1st kind and her (girl)friends the 2nd.

[dap-addict]

cont.

6. Heels breaking always in the wrong moment: And than you trying to jump off the penis in order to not accidentally cripple him when your heel(s) break off in rc.
7. Girls who come to the makeup unprepared before its your turn. No comments. I hate waiting
8. Hungarian doctors who take blood from a vein without gloves.
9. The mode of the day - sleep, eat, gym during filming goes so far that no uncultured guy will send you off.
10. You carry bags with clothes to the studio but you will be completely dressed up in what is their property.

6) LOL!
8) typical Bp!

[magizi877]

Waking up early is not a con.

Fasting is not a con either. The entire society has nutrition all wrong. lol.

[dap-addict]

Btw, not entirely sure about translation of 9)

[stockard692]

nice list, my favorite point is the one about lube

[blublubeacha]

a pro is that when you're a sexy buttslut you get to show off your ass(hole) and flaunt your rectum in front of the camera

[wylka1]

a pro is that when you're a sexy buttslut you get to show off your ass(hole) and flaunt your rectum in front of the camera

Are you sure about that ?

[blublubeacha]

absolutely. otherwise she's not a real buttslut

[Iddaoeeok]

absolutely. otherwise she's not a real buttslut

Thanks for the insight, professor.

[blublubeacha]

you're welcome

[dap-addict]

Are you sure about that ?

Well, gape-ability and no inhibitions showing it for the camera sure helps a good pro porn actress.

[utopiaa]

Major con is probably not enough work for most models, so need to do other work.

[dap-addict]

Depends on consumer needs basically.
If a girl just wanna support a modest life style without all fashion goods and frequent Bali/Goa trips its enough work, if she wants more however, it might not be sufficient.

[steverino1969]

In the USA, some girls go into porn strictly because they enjoy extreme sex. In particular, some White girls enjoy getting gangbanged by Black guys, which is very dangerous to attempt in civilian life. This risk of a girl getting robbed, killed, or infected with a disease is very high. In porn, true Black Cock Sluts can indulge their appetites in complete safety. This, however, is accomplished at the cost of notoriety. I've known any number of chicks who have confided in me that they would absolutely LOVE to get thoroughly gangfucked by a room full of Black porn guys, but they would never do it on account of the stigma they'd bear afterwards. I've also known a couple of chicks that actually arranged to be gangbanged in private. One especially beautiful redhead had a friend of hers set it up where she was gangbanged by a dozen Black gangstas in the Baltimore ghetto. She was there for over 24 hours getting fucked almost continuously before they called an uber to take her home. She tells me it was the most terrifying experience of her life, but also the most erotic and sexually satisfying
She walked unsteadily out of their crib a complete sperm-burping mess, with cum leaking out of both her pussy and Asshole, having lost her underwear in all the excitement. Despite wanting to do it again, she's been too frightened to go back, and she's too concerned about what her family and professional colleagues would think to try porn. Also, few non-pro men can readily perform dp, dpp, dap, and/or tp. If a chick wants to experience this kind of action, porn is just about the only way to do it.

[TheVulture]

Well, the obvious pro is that if a girl has a large sexual appetite and is sexually adventurous then porn is the perfect opportunity for her to indulge her fantasies. There are numerous obstacles to a sexually active girl indulging in, say, a 5 or 10 man gangbang outside of porn, the main ones being the possible damage to her local reputation and the risk of exposure to STDs. I would imagine that in the same way that us blokes are envious of porn studs, very many women will be similarly envious of porn girls for being able to engage in sex with porn studs in the way that they do.

The main con obviously would be the stigma involved. Whilst most porn girls are probably not instantly recognisable by the ordinary man or woman on the street, having the exposure that goes with being a female porn star must bring with it issues such as possible objection from family members and friends etc. Sex – and particularly the kind of sex seen in porn – is largely only exciting because it’s taboo so the pay-off for having spectacular porn sex would be that it isn’t done in private. Also its taboo nature means it isn’t something you would want to proudly announce to all and sundry in the way that the vast majority of people would with regard to their own professions. It thus clearly requires a strong-minded kind of girl to enjoy the porn experience and to deal with the social baggage that comes with it.

Another con that perhaps isn’t picked up on as much as it should be is the occasionally degrading nature of modern porn that LP does in some ways endorse if not always actively promote. I wonder, for example, how much it’s possible for a porn girl to define the boundaries of what takes place in her scenes. Could a girl say, for example: “I have no limits from a sex point of view so come at my mouth, pussy and arse with however many dicks you want and in whatever positions but I’m not into slapping, throat-grabbing or anything too aggressive of that nature so none of that stuff please”. I can’t answer that but I suspect it’s doubtful (especially for new girls) and it’s thus possible that very many girls put up with that stuff as an occupational hazard as it doesn’t overly outweigh the pros. But for some girls that might certainly outweigh the positives of otherwise good sex. This is an interesting debate and one that certainly faces current porn girls much more than those of, say 10-15 years ago where such rough extra-curricular activity (shall we say) was less prevalent and even possibly non-existent.

The final pro, of course, is the money, although girls entering porn purely for money – whilst they obviously exist – I doubt would last long as their scenes are unlikely to be of great quality. Having said that, there is a depressing niche demand for scenes where girls look uncomfortable, are in pain etc. as a look at these very forum pages proves. I suspect that this demand isn’t too large, however, and a porn stable would probably quickly run into trouble were it to focus heavily in this area. Happily, I think only the girls who genuinely enjoy the sex they engage in will stay the course and prove popular because it isn’t easy to fool the average porn fan, who will value a degree of heat in their scenes as well as acts of extreme sex. But the ability to make good money over a fairly short career is quite rightly also a tick in the pro column for any girl deemed physically attractive enough for porn to be a viable option.

[steverino1969]

Degradation could certainly be counted among the cons, but, at the same time, some girls find it a sexual turn-on. This was true of the redhead I discussed in my post above. After she arrived at the gang's crib in Baltimore, her whole life experience was turned on its head. She was a beautiful, 19-year-old White girl from the affluent suburbs who offered herself to a crowd of Black criminal gangstas in the ghetto. Right off the bat, she said, she was reduced to nothing but a piece of White fuck meat. According to her, there were no niceties or small talk. The guys immediately ripped her clothes off and forced her to start sucking on a room full of Black cocks. The whole time she was subjected to endless verbal abuse of a racial nature. Those Black dudes were going to take out all their racial frustrations on the little rich White girl. She told me she was initially shocked by the treatment, but she also found it to be extremely exciting sexually. The thought of her parents watching her being transformed into a wanton ghetto slut horrified her, yet gave her an intense orgasm when one Black guy came in her mouth as another was cumming in her pussy. Over the whole time, those Black dudes were quite rough with her, slapping her at times when she didn't perform immediately as demanded. Sexual degradation, for this girl, was a fantasy come true, as I have to believe it to be for others. Later, in order to get her freak on, this chick became a part-time escort, which she considered to be the safest, most discrete way for her to be able to fuck as many different guys as she wants, whenever she wants.

[TheVulture]

Oh absolutely. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. But a possible by-product of that is that such a degrading approach becomes the default standard meaning that all girls have to put up with that kind of style of porn in order to remain in the industry. I'm certainly not saying that this is absolutely the case but in the last 5-10 years or so I personally have been frustrated trying to find porn that turns me on (hard sex but without male physical aggression and with the girls allowed to express their personalities and radiate a relaxed kind of sluttiness if you like), whereas in the previous 5-10 years (my entry into porn, pretty much) the kind of porn I like was pretty much omnipresent and the rough stuff much harder to find. So it would be odd for me to draw the conclusion that porn girls still have numerous opportunities to do hard porn without rough stuff, simply because I can't easily find it.

There are pros and cons for me here too, namely that the anal content and general strength of modern porn is much stronger than back then (a good thing) but that in tandem with this I might have to put up with more rough stuff (a bad thing). And this combination also might not suit all girls. It's likely impossible to quantify but it is quite possible that out there are a ton of anal-friendly potential porn girls who are simply put off by the physical rough stuff and occasional verbal abuse that is much more prevalent in modern porn than that of 10-15 years ago. It wouldn't be fair to say that these girls are just "vanilla" or whatever because that would be to confuse their ability to perform very hard sex acts and their acceptance of manhandling/degradation/abuse etc., which are by no means linked, regardless of how many girls we can all point to who like both aspects.

[HwtOxc8K]

Pros:

#1 Money

Cons:

#1 Everything else

[steverino1969]

Pros:

#1 Money

Cons:

#1 Everything else

I don't think so. I've been with a few porn chicks and they've all told me that they LOVED the whole idea of fucking for a living. Among those chicks is a Euro girl who has done a lot of extremely hard content. She told me that her favorite thing in the world is getting gang banged --especially when dp and dpp are involved -- and getting paid for it is a dream come true for her. She's estranged from her family in Hungary, but she doesn't care. Porn is her way to financial independence while simultaneously getting to enjoy nearly endless, exquisite sexual pleasure.

[drevokocur66]

Pros:

#1 Money

Cons:

#1 Everything else

While there are always exceptions to a rule, I could not agree more.

[Iddaoeeok]

Agreed.

[steverino1969]

Agreed.

Do you not believe that some girls actually enjoy it?

[TheVulture]

Pros:

#1 Money

Cons:

#1 Everything else

Really?

You don't think that any LP girls enjoy their porn sex?

Brittany Love? Rebecca Sharon? Julia Red? Lyna Cypher?

Just in it for the money?

[HwtOxc8K]

Let's see. They starve themselves for a day and wake up at 7am to start doing enemas so that their asses are clean. They then get fucked for a couple of hours by the biggest dicks on the planet. Sometimes so hard a proctologist has to be on standby. They get paid a couple of thousand euros which is good money for a 20-something year old especially from countries with poverty wages but really not enough for what they are giving away. At the same time you get involved with prostitution on the side because everyone else is doing it and it's extra money for a few hours work. Rince and repeat for a couple of years up until one day your body or your brain can't take it anymore.
You get mentally or physically exhausted from all the fucking and the lack of meaningful long-term relationships and you start wanting other things. Start a family, have children, be respected by your friends and peers, move into other lines of work. Just like anyone else in life really. The thing is with porn you can never undo it. These videos are gonna be on the internet forever for everyone to see. It doesn't matter if you're 20 or 50 you're gonna live with the truth of the matter that everyone you care about including your kids will see you get gangbanged, dp'd and peed on. I know society is changing and people are more open minded but people will always judge you. Especially in some of the Easter European countries. There's a reason the average lifespan of a female pornstar is something like 6 months.

[magizi877]

I think that, when you realize that the world doesn't revolve around you,
and people just don't really care about you and what you have done,
then you can start doing things that pleases you, without worrying what might others think.

People who work in porn, surround themselves with either people who like it, fans,
or people who also work in porn. Ignoring everyone else.

And ultimately, what the rest of the world thinks about them,
doesn't really matter too much, when all you need to get by, is a handful of people,
who are allowed to enter into your inner social circle.

And that's not too different to how everyone else gets by.

Also worth mentioning is that prostitution wasn't stigmatized until STD's were discovered. Just saying.
"Prostitution" has been with humanity, long before civilizations even began, thousands of years ago.

Moving on, I think a pro that hasn't been mentioned is how healthy they appear to be.
Being beautiful is synonymous to being healthy looking and they pretty much are forced to stay healthy all career long.
Their hygiene is borderline OCD, lol.

From a fan point of view, the biggest con is the pressure to get bigger boobs. UGH!

[dap-addict]

You get mentally or physically exhausted from all the fucking and the lack of meaningful long-term relationships...

Who says they dont have them?
And who says non porn ppl have them?
That post is over negative. Also all you write about stigma.
Of course it stays in the internet, but so do all Fb posts everybody ever did. Most not about fucking in porn but still things and pics they may not want around later anymore.

[Iddaoeeok]

Agreed.

Do you not believe that some girls actually enjoy it?

Did you read the post I was agreeing with?

[steverino1969]

Agreed.

Do you not believe that some girls actually enjoy it?

Did you read the post I was agreeing with?

It looked to me like you agreed with those who thought the only "pro" was the miney.

[steverino1969]

Let's see. They starve themselves for a day and wake up at 7am to start doing enemas so that their asses are clean. They then get fucked for a couple of hours by the biggest dicks on the planet. Sometimes so hard a proctologist has to be on standby. They get paid a couple of thousand euros which is good money for a 20-something year old especially from countries with poverty wages but really not enough for what they are giving away. At the same time you get involved with prostitution on the side because everyone else is doing it and it's extra money for a few hours work. Rince and repeat for a couple of years up until one day your body or your brain can't take it anymore.
You get mentally or physically exhausted from all the fucking and the lack of meaningful long-term relationships and you start wanting other things. Start a family, have children, be respected by your friends and peers, move into other lines of work. Just like anyone else in life really. The thing is with porn you can never undo it. These videos are gonna be on the internet forever for everyone to see. It doesn't matter if you're 20 or 50 you're gonna live with the truth of the matter that everyone you care about including your kids will see you get gangbanged, dp'd and peed on. I know society is changing and people are more open minded but people will always judge you. Especially in some of the Easter European countries. There's a reason the average lifespan of a female pornstar is something like 6 months.

Your post clearly reflects YOUR values, which are not shared by everyone. Some people really don't care what others think, especially when those others are providing no financial support. It's easy to cast aspersions on porn actresses and prostitutes when you don't personally have to choose between such a career and living in poverty. It's also easy to denigrate a beautiful young girl who enjoys getting regularly gangbanged by groups of good-looking, well hung guys. You might call her a "slut," but I don't blame her at all! As a man, I'd personally LOVE to be the center of sexual attention for a roomful of gorgeous, horny girls! Who wouldn't? Most, however, never get the opportunity. Those that do can consider themselves fortunate, and those that sneer atvthem are most likely jealous. Neither do I look down on prostitutes. I've known more than a few and most really enjoy their work, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

[TheVulture]

I have never liked the comparison between porn and prostitution.

Porn is sex between (mostly) alpha males and beautiful women. For sure there will be the odd scene both male and female porn stars are contractually obliged to perform where they don't particularly find their partner(s) attractive but in the main they are being paid to have exemplary sex with people they presumably find attractive and in a very safe environment without risk of STDs etc. Whatever else your views about the stigma etc., porn sex is essentially a joyous exhibition of physical pleasure for the benefit of performers and viewers alike.

Prostitution, on the other hand, is the performance of sexual favours to any paying customer and thus a quite desperate (not to mention dangerous) act. There is nothing remotely glamorous about prostitution and nor is it likely to be a route to obtaining sexual satisfaction, unless the exceptionally seedy side of sex is a turn on. It is simply joyless and degrading sex for money, the only pro over porn being that no-one else apart from the performers need know about it.

If an attractive young female undergoes a career in porn I say "Bravo". If any kind of woman undergoes a career in prostitution I can only offer them my pity and limited support to help them get out of it.

They are apples and pears.

Porn stars escorting is thus an interesting area where the 2 converge. It's no more than high class prostitution, ultimately, where the women use the exposure of their porn careers to at least screen their customers and limit the number of encounters required to make a healthy income.

[steverino1969]

I think you're misinformed about the nature of much prostitution. You seem to imagine nothing but drugged out street whores trafficked by pimps. While this certainly exists, it's not what I was referring to. There's another facet, that somewhat resembles the porn star escorting you refer to. In this segment, exceptionally beautiful ladies offer their services to a select clientele of their choosing. Many of these ladies have other career prospects, yet engage in this activity primarily for fun, with profit being a side benefit. For the most part, these women LOVE sex and find it very exciting to get fucked by many different men. They choose escorting as a way to indulge their sexual appetites in a much more discrete way than porn offers.

[Iddaoeeok]

It looked to me like you agreed with those who thought the only "pro" was the miney.

"While there are always expections to the rule", the poster said. I agree for most girls the pro is money but am aware there are exceptions.

[TheVulture]

I think you're misinformed about the nature of much prostitution. You seem to imagine nothing but drugged out street whores trafficked by pimps. While this certainly exists, it's not what I was referring to. There's another facet, that somewhat resembles the porn star escorting you refer to. In this segment, exceptionally beautiful ladies offer their services to a select clientele of their choosing. Many of these ladies have other career prospects, yet engage in this activity primarily for fun, with profit being a side benefit. For the most part, these women LOVE sex and find it very exciting to get fucked by many different men. They choose escorting as a way to indulge their sexual appetites in a much more discrete way than porn offers.

In what way does escorting indulge a female porn star's sexual appetites more than, well, porn?

If you were an attractive young lady, who would you rather fuck? The studs on LP or some fat middle aged businessman who wanks off to your porn and has enough money to indulge his fantasies?

Escorting is simply high class prostitution. The women do it solely for money.

Porn is hard sex performed by experts. There are very, very many women out there who look at female porn stars with great envy. The acts they engage in are the pinnacle of sexual performance.

[dap-addict]

In what way does escorting indulge a female porn star's sexual appetites more than, well, porn?

Porn is lots of lights and director cuts.
Escort doesn't have all this, it can be more enjoyable, IF the sexual partners are picked by the girl providing the service. Porn helps her doing, so.

[steverino1969]

Pros:

#1 Money

Cons:

#1 Everything else

A significant number of women view MARRIAGE this way, my ex-wife among them!

[Iddaoeeok]

Pros:

#1 Money

Cons:

#1 Everything else

A significant number of women view MARRIAGE this way, my ex-wife among them!

[vnhaln52]

I don't think porn stars should have kids (for all the reasons listed). You put a life long anchor around the kids neck for things you did. Growing up porn star's children go thru hell. Just ask Misty Vonage's son.