2-Part scenes – ENOUGH!

[altporn]

Every day we're waiting for a new scene from Giorgio. It's like a little Christmas every day for hardcore porn fans. While other studios release their scenes from time to time (except Gonzo), and Gonzo is using same girls over and over again (yesterday we saw 83rd scene of Timea Bella, God help us!), Giorgio's scenes are the only ones to have a reason to wait for. But what recently seemed like an unpleasant exception, today seems as a rule: two-part scenes. And if today you see part 1, that means tomorrow you'll got part 2. No reason to wait, there will not be surprises. I understand that sometimes there are more material than can be in a 1-2 hours scenes, but now it's always like that. And it seems like an obvious "trick": to sell one scene two times by shooting a little more, and than just cut it in half. Not once, not twice, very often nowadays. I'd better got one "short" 1-2 hours scene than two parts, just to know that tomorrow you'll see a different scene with different girls.

[Wotan29]

+1

[misangrenegra2]

Personally i dont have any problem with 2-parts scenes (i think GIO is the unique director that shots this kind of scenes). I like it the format and for me is interesting and he gets 2 essential points. Part one is focused in single anal with some DAP (normally 2on2 and sometimes 2on3), the second part have a lot of DAP and some single anal too (more than 5 guys, a true gangbang). He gets too 2 different endings (creampie/facial). and locations (upstairs and main living room) for each part

GIO said in others threads (If im wrong he can reply) if he does this kind of scene with this format is because with other way isnt possible and rentable. I remeber something about time too and about the costs.

We are the costumers and only can watch the trailer to decide buy the scene or not (Here there are others reasons like support your fav girl, fav series, whatever).

I talk for me, i dont know almost anything about the work behind the scene or the cost and time any director with their guys and girl/girls needs to make a this scene or this other scene. Maybe a lot of us have an opinion about this but surely we dont have a lot of information about the production.

[magizi877]

and here I been waiting for those two part scenes, to be about the same model, without any other woman, just one.
While you guys are getting tired of them.

[HwtOxc8K]

I almost never watch part 2 because I lose interest after having watched part 1.

[rubenvanvoorst87]

I almost never watch part 2 because I lose interest after having watched part 1.

Me too….I think the 2 part scenes should stop. Just one girl with 3-10 boys is just the best and I think the biggest part of the crowd also wants to see more anal creampie finishes, like in GIO001-GIO100 scenes were you had multiple creampie farting etc...that was sooo great.

[bbb13]

I don't like these scenes in 2 parts either ! I guess it's cheaper for studios. But the 2 parts are rarely good both in their entirety. In addition, it monopolizes new stuff over several days, decreases the creative choice and the offer in its diversity.

[ghoulish123]

++++
I think this idea lowers the overall quality of the films:
Getting tired of one movie cut into 2 parts one of which may be a complete filler just so they can sell it twice (for a price of 2 movies no less).
Why not just release a better longer version of the movie and it it exceeds XX Time in length , you can ask for a higher price (Assuming there is real content and not just a filler content ).
If your customers respect you by buying the great content which you release , why not show some respect back.

[dap-addict]

Hasnt it been explained enough times already?
2 part scenes are a way to finance more expensive content like 6on2/7on2 with higher fee girls.
Do you guys really think US imports dap or drink piss for free or what?!
Not talking of general costs to keep the studio going.

Maybe doesnt work fully on financing terms anymore, though. Me for instance if I feel I have to economize ticket spendings I skip lighter part 1 and wait for part 2 which is rougher porn fare usually. Only later I often buy part 1, too, in solidarity with the girls involved and GIO needing to finance this all. Now buying later doesn't help as buying instantly.

[altporn]

My problem with 2-part videos is not the cost, but the slot in a day they takes. Giorgio can just make a video in one part with a price doubled. Usually people buy both parts (or none of them). Anyway, both parts of a scene cost one sum and takes one amount of GB as if they where both in one part. But the fact is you have no reason to guess who will be in a scene another day, just because you know it will be part 2 with same actresses, makes me sad.

[dap-addict]

altporn, you point to another production advantage:
GIO shoots 30 scenes per month and if 4 of them are 2-part scenes he can get 4 free Sundays for his family.
Just saying!

[altporn]

altporn, you point to another production advantage:
GIO shoots 30 scenes per month and if 4 of them are 2-part scenes he can get 4 free Sundays for his family.
Just saying!

The problem is now it feels like there are half of them.

[Dudemeister]

Some statistics for clarification:

Since GIO600, GG released 227 scenes.
13 of these were „clean“ wet versions released on the same day, so we're actually talking about 214 release slots.

131 slots with one girl (61%)
33 slots with more than one girl (15%)
50 slots with 2-part scenes / always at least two girls (24%)

So every fourth slot is taken by a two-parter.

I have to agree, maybe a bit too much.

[dap-addict]

Thanks for the stats, Dudemeister!
As pointed out its the only feasible way to finance more expensive shots.
Ideally a 2-parter could be supported by a cheaper 1-part release the same day, a simple 2on1 Double Anal Creampie or an 1on1 anal intro for instance. Thus something new would be offered and I guess a lot of GIO fans would buy both scenes. But it had to be tested first how many users spend 8-9 tkts for two scenes instead of 5,5tkts for just one.
It would also mean for GIO to expand shooting capacity from 30 to 40 scenes per month.
At this moment just wishful thinking I am afraid.
But do a 1-2 sales drives maybe, Giorgio?!

[dap-addict]

edit: Sales test drives, I mean of course.
Release a cheaper support GIO scene simultaneous to part 2 (for 5,5 tkt) to check how many users buy both offerings.
Not a big risk if you have something suitable in stock...

[RedBaron]

Can't believe another 2-part scene ist starting!!!! One old ug... lady and one young beautiful girl. Giorgio, do you really think I will buy any part of this scene?!
Never saved so much money with GIO-scenes in the last months. Spending more money with Luis and Gonzo.

[drinside]

Can't believe another 2-part scene ist starting!!!! One old ug... lady and one young beautiful girl. Giorgio, do you really think I will buy any part of this scene?!
Never saved so much money with GIO-scenes in the last months. Spending more money with Luis and Gonzo.

Gio does not care anymore. He found a way to make fast money filming these type of scenes. I've been complaning about these 2-girl scenes but he just ignore what we say.

[blublubeacha]

Can't believe another 2-part scene ist starting!!!! One old ug... lady and one young beautiful girl. Giorgio, do you really think I will buy any part of this scene?!
Never saved so much money with GIO-scenes in the last months. Spending more money with Luis and Gonzo.

Stupid post

[dap-addict]

Gio does not care anymore. He found a way to make fast money filming these type of scenes. I've been complaning about these 2-girl scenes but he just ignore what we say.

Some fans always complain. But most fans have no idea about productions and production costs.
They take the goodies provided by studios easily for granted. This is why I tried to explain again why there are 2-part scenes, but each with a separate ending and another theme.
Of course they sell and generate profit to be invested in next scenes be they 1-part or 2-part, otherwise GIO would have stopped them long ago.
Its not about not caring, but caring as much for user calls as much is financially feasible and makes sense in biz terms.

[drinside]

Gio does not care anymore. He found a way to make fast money filming these type of scenes. I've been complaning about these 2-girl scenes but he just ignore what we say.

Some fans always complain. But most fans have no idea about productions and production costs.
They take the goodies provided by studios easily for granted. This is why I tried to explain again why there are 2-part scenes, but each with a separate ending and another theme.
Of course they sell and generate profit to be invested in next scenes be they 1-part or 2-part, otherwise GIO would have stopped them long ago.
Its not about not caring, but caring as much for user calls as much is financially feasible and makes sense in biz terms.

Teach us, the fans who have no idead about productions. That's not the point, mate.

Do you really think that a 2girl scene with only one guy ending with a creampie is worth 5tix?

I'm done, I'll not talk about it anymore. If you guys agree with these situation and also PAY for all these scenes, GREAT. That what Gio wants.

[renzotrota]

The scene "Fucking Wet Override #2 Madison Lush & Anna Rey 6on2 with Drink Festival, Gapes, DAP, Messy Facial GIO853" it was divided into two parts. Giorgio did well ... Two hours of real drinking piss also lesbian, Dap, prolapse, gangbang ... a masterpiece that is worth all the tk!

[CyberSickness]

I never watch two parts scenes because it's usually a multiple girl scene, I don't like those.

[dap-addict]

Do you really think that a 2girl scene with only one guy ending with a creampie is worth 5tix?

No, its not!
But the 2nd part is worth more than 5,5 tkt.
And thats the point: Scene cost is shared between 2 parts to make it financially feasible to produce.
Also part 1 and part 2 partly cater for different audience, i.e. gb vs non gb, stockings and heels vs. stockings/barefoot only etc.
Its more variety offered hoping that a decent amount of fans will buy both parts in order to support high production costs of 5+ studs and/or expensive imports.

Btw, same with Alex Harper today. She's high costs to fly over and dap of course.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Again, I think you guys should use "search option" instead than whine as women at the market
 

The production cost of a 2 part movie can not be supported enough if I release a full movie compressed in only one part. It wont make enough money for support the production cost.
FYI, the double part scene with Bree/Alex costed almost $10k only between performers, travels and agency fees. If you add location, running cost of my company, etc, you go over $11.5k. One single movie can provide to a studio $7k at most, so where the fuck is the principle to punish a producer because he provides you something that it unique and impossible to find elsewhere.
If I split a movie in 2 part is because the production cost is over (or very close) to $7k, this is the only reason, otherwise I wont bother myself.

What has a total production cost under $6k doesnt need to be split (as it can provide 15% profit or so) so it is not splitted, but over that money there is no way (at least for now).
Its well explained in my personal website, get informed instead than whine

[Alan2008]

Giorgio, Thanks so much for pairing Alex with Bree. They are to me a winning combination and some nasty things going on in that shoot.

[teammelee15]

GG keep doing what you do. I for one Prefer the 2 part scenes. But only if the pairing is GOOD! Like the Bree/Alex one. GOLD! Kira and Lily. NOT GOLD! Either way who doesn't want to see more content of sexy puppies. Reach in your pocket book and buy ONLY the good pairings and stop b#tching.

[pastaga]

I only buy the pairings I like. And sometimes I only buy one of the 2 parts. Can't buy everything anyway, so choices have to be made...

[Dudemeister]

First of all, please don't support piracy here, altporn. It's unnecessary and will only get you banned.

To Giorgio: thanks for your explaination, but I'm not sure you got the point. I think everyone understood by now that some scenes have to be split in two parts to make them profitable. That's okay, I can live with that if I like the content. I think most people are bothered that the production of two-parters have indeed increased, and that they are always multi girl scenes and they always take the release slots of two days.

So as a customer I would recommend:

- shoot 2-part scenes with one girl (but maybe they don't get expensive enough this way and don't need to be split up anyway...)
- don't shoot "so many" 2-part scenes
- and if you have to, release both parts on the same day

I think that would work for most of the complainers and hopfully for you, too.

[2017sucks]

Don't understand why people complaining. Just be happy that still no 3, 4, 5 part scenes.

[pastaga]

I agree, releasing split scenes the same day would be a good thing. (no problem if no GIO or IV scene the day after.)
Another good thing would be to have a little discount for people buying both parts, I'd 8 tokens instead of 10 or 11...

[RedBaron]

First of all, please don't support piracy here, altporn. It's unnecessary and will only get you banned.

To Giorgio: thanks for your explaination, but I'm not sure you got the point. I think everyone understood by now that some scenes have to be split in two parts to make them profitable. That's okay, I can live with that if I like the content. I think most people are bothered that the production of two-parters have indeed increased, and that they are always multi girl scenes and they always take the release slots of two days.

So as a customer I would recommend:

- shoot 2-part scenes with one girl (but maybe they don't get expensive enough this way and don't need to be split up anyway...)
- don't shoot "so many" 2-part scenes
- and if you have to, release both parts on the same day

I think that would work for most of the complainers and hopfully for you, too.

Fully support this.

But if GIO needs 10 tkt for one scene why they do not sell the scene for 10 tkt??? GIO should change his contract with XXX if this is not possible.

[Jon_Jonz]

Lara's perversions was one of the best 2 parts movie GG produced,then there is the 8on2 Francys Belle and Belle Claire.
I think that how good that movie is depends on the chemistry that girls have and how far they are willing to push themselves like in Lara's perversions.
Maybe Giorgio will think about Natalie Cherie's perversions or May Thai or Ciara Riviera etc

[2017sucks]

https://www.legalporno.com/model/3935/victoria_voxxx

Real example how Giorgio cheated everyone. Remember his note? 3 scenes guaranteed to all US girls. Yeah, right. 2 scenes and 1 of them splitted in 2 parts. And to be even worse, it's with girl who shooted billion times for him.

[JayJams]

I gotta assume most of the people bitching, are millennials who must have everything served to them on silver platter immediately.

Try having to travel to a shop to get your porn, of which the the Title (disc or tape if you're older) only has 4 scenes for $30, or better yet (if you're even older) travelling to a theater, and having to sit next to a bunch of other pervs (99.9999% men) watching & jerking off.

You crybabies have no idea how good you have it. Cry me a river!

[Giorgio Grandi]

Victoria Voxx was not able to perform her last scene, it was not planned to cancel the 3rd scene but we was forced because her ass was sore. You can ask her if you wish. I find very arrogant to assume smt without to have even an idea of what is going on.


How many scenes did you purchased in your pornobox? Even if you have many I have enough of you writing false information and attacking me every time I replay to your BS.

https://www.legalporno.com/model/3935/victoria_voxxx

Real example how Giorgio cheated everyone. Remember his note? 3 scenes guaranteed to all US girls. Yeah, right. 2 scenes and 1 of them splitted in 2 parts. And to be even worse, it's with girl who shooted billion times for him.

[jeremyliu]

I personally like the 2 part scenes, it really shows off the girls' endurance and how horny they are.
I would love to see just one girl in a 2 part scene. Perhaps Nicole Black or Anna de Ville.

A Blackended special would be amazing. It would have to be with a true anal balls deep Queen, like the girls above or Henessey. The difference would be the first part a full monsters of DAP with white guys and then the second part a full No Holes Barred with DP, DPP and TAP black guys.

Maybe call the series "I want more" or "Greedy anal Queen".

[Giorgio Grandi]

Nice spark, this makes sense. I’m going to do it

I personally like the 2 part scenes, it really shows off the girls' endurance and how horny they are.
I would love to see just one girl in a 2 part scene. Perhaps Nicole Black or Anna de Ville.

A Blackended special would be amazing. It would have to be with a true anal balls deep Queen, like the girls above or Henessey. The difference would be the first part a full monsters of DAP with white guys and then the second part a full No Holes Barred with DP, DPP and TAP black guys.

Maybe call the series "I want more" or "Greedy anal Queen".

[kidloco2]

Victoria Voxx was not able to perform her last scene, it was not planned to cancel the 3rd scene but we was forced because her ass was sore. You can ask her if you wish.

That's a pitty, I like her scene. Maybe give it a little break between the scenes next time. Maybe you might want to ask her for a sequel
anytime you feel it. She's worth it.

[2017sucks]

Victoria Voxx was not able to perform her last scene, it was not planned to cancel the 3rd scene but we was forced because her ass was sore. You can ask her if you wish. I find very arrogant to assume smt without to have even an idea of what is going on.


How many scenes did you purchased in your pornobox? Even if you have many I have enough of you writing false information and attacking me every time I replay to your BS.

https://www.legalporno.com/model/3935/victoria_voxxx

Real example how Giorgio cheated everyone. Remember his note? 3 scenes guaranteed to all US girls. Yeah, right. 2 scenes and 1 of them splitted in 2 parts. And to be even worse, it's with girl who shooted billion times for him.

Thanks for the answer Giorgio. And you got me wrong, I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your attitude and the way how you presenting things. You see, I needed to be rude to get info about Victoria Voxx for example, otherwise never would know and you never would say any single word about her. And now I respect your decision and nothing to complain about. And it's all about that. Your attitude you'e the only one with 100% devotion, only pro, all other making errors. And then we see someone here ask for some girl and get nothing from you except silent. What's the big deal to explain to someone who like some girl what's the situation. You leaving me so much space for "conspiracy theory". And even when some girl is retired, why is such a problem to write - she's retired. And no problem. With your way, you just pushing me on thinking that you are the problem, if lot of superstars shooted for you and then suddenly stops and never shoot again.

viewtopic.php?p=216758#p216758 "If I shoot a model once and than I dont shoot her anymore the reason can be only 2:
- doesnt sell properly
- difficult to handle"

Difficult to handle? That's what I want to say. When you speak, you speak so much and say so little. What do you mean by that? You mean girl can't handle DAPs or TAPs anymore, or you can't handle them anymore as persons, especially off camera, because they are making bad atmosphere maybe? And we again coming to the previous question, is it the problem at you maybe, when many superstars kicked out permanently. No one can't be at 100% every day.

About the scenes that I purchased, I know it's not such an effort to check and the thing is that I have 2, yes 2 more accs for buying scenes only and this is forum acc only. I bought around hmmmm 25-30 % of your scenes, not sure exactly. Not buying 1 on 1, 2 part scenes, also single scenes with 2 girls unless it's top class and like the girls and also scenes with 1 girl if don't like her. So, we are coming to 1 girl (which I like) gangbangs as 80-90 % of my scenes. And it's the same with SZ stuff too.

[kidloco2]

Finally, unlike IV, which is just one scene cut in 2 halves, Giorgio's 2-part scenes finally make sense.

Each part has different sex approach and feature different sex acts (although both parts should be equally sexually hard and intense)
and they're both close to 1 hour long (1+ h / 1+ h will be ideal).

Of course there's a place to improve them (better 1st part intensity - more g/g anal, toying, anal fisting, stretching), both hit at least 60mins mark), but IMHO there's no reason to whine and bitch about it now.