Pornocracy and The Practices Of Pornstars

[Bodum]

In the documentary Pornocracy, Pierre Woodman shares his grievances with certain porn produces whose women take 2 or 3 and sometimes four cocks in the ass. He states that all these women use lidocaine in their rectums and anus and they take drugs to help numb the pain of women’s pussies and assholes. He also states that men take a chemical agent to maintain erections.

These allegations he puts forth seem to explain how all these women are able to take a brutal anal pounding. And it also explains how men are able to keep their erections for so long with red faces(viagra makes men flush from the face).

If it’s true then it’s a little sad. Not for the women but for us, because we don’t get genuine reactions to hardcore Anal pounding.

Any thoughts?

[teammelee15]

First off Pierre Woodman is a pos who shoots GARBAGE porn. PERIOD!

Obviously he/you are talking about LP (although I didn't watch this so called Doc or any of his sh#t) but do girls on LP use Lidocaine? Yes. Do they all use it I am not sure but I am assuming most do. I could go into how the ass is a muscle and needs to be stretched just like any muscle and how Lidocaine helps put a girl at ease until she gets to that (not so painful/starting to feel good stretch) but that's for another topic I use it on my wife and without it she wouldn't get off as fast/pleasure without using some Lidocaine. Now are these gals getting off? I highly doubt it because 90% of them probably dont even Like DAP. $$$

Do the guys shoot what they call a compound injection (or known as Tri-Mix or Bi-Mix) Other forms and ways to use it but injections are the most successful. But Yes they are most likely all shooting up. You think you could do 4-5 DAP scenes a week and always have a rock hard dick? NOBODY COULD! Neeo is definitely using it. You can see the sore of the injections on the side of his dick from time to time. Viagra is somewhat useful but I guarantee they are not using it. You have to stroke your dick to maintain an erection with it and with guys swapping in and out just standing their watching not stroking...ya their not using it. I know because I have used both.

Ok you think it's sad? You do realize that nothing on LP is casual/real life sex right? This isn't natural for 99.9% of the public This is for the most part fantasy for most that they cant see ANYWHERE else in the world. People want to hate on LP using Lidocaine on girls but if it helps the producers shot the porn that (we the people) want to buy then f#ck yes they are going to use it and the girls I sure say shove a few fingers worth up my bum because they dont want to be miserable the whole scene (Gabreialla Ross) This is a business remember!

[Bodum]

I want to make it clear that I’m not hating on LP. It was mostly a surprise to me. I think LP is the best in the business. I’ve been watching their movies for a long time. But I had always assumed these girls were just able to take it and didn’t use any numbing agents. That’s all.

[teammelee15]

Never said you were hating on LP. But do you really believe that a "new girl" thats never done porn and barely any Anal could just jump into DAP? Think about that for a bit Even if they did some anal stretching (butt plugs etc.) Still no way they could take 2 dicks and 2 bigger dicks for that matter right away.

[blublubeacha]

this is news to me as well. i think if a model has to use that stuff to be able to perform anal sex it's better to stay away from porn

[Bodum]

Yes! Yes I did actually believe that a girl with little experience can do a double anal scene because I’m ignorant of anal sex.

[dap-addict]

It has all been said in the open by directors and people directly involved in the production here.
Lest injections for the studs, but thats obvious see t15 above. Also we just dont discuss studs here really in-depth. Nobody was interested so far.
Now only problem is PW denouncing all practices he applies for many years already blaming it only on his competitors. But we know the lier ape, so no surprise here either.

[Iddaoeeok]

It has all been said in the open by directors and people directly involved in the production here.
Lest injections for the studs, but thats obvious see t15 above. Also we just dont discuss studs here really in-depth. Nobody was interested so far.
Now only problem is PW denouncing all practices he applies for many years already blaming it only on his competitors. But we know the lier ape, so no surprise here either.

It's part of PW's pathology that he accuses others of doing exactly what he's doing but doesn't admit to doing, a good example is when he accused posters to this forum of being employees of LP - he even claimed Petra was John McSpunkencock! I mean, God bless Petra, but I don't think her English is that good! Meanwhile, everyone knows he posts to his own forum under a variety of pseudonyms - his English skills are not only dire but they're totally distinctive - going as far as to have conversations with himself, which is some form of madness.

Of course it's also a kind of distraction technique, like a conjuror does when doing a card trick, politicians do it all the time. With PW you have to look for what he makes the most noise about, what he most feigns disgust about and he's almost certainly involved in it - I'll leave you to work out what those are (*cough* *cough* escorting...)

[blublubeacha]

There is a *reason* for pain and if you feel it, that means you're doing something wrong and damaging your body. Numbing your ass so it doesn't hurt doesn't make the damage any less real.

[xxx]

In the documentary Pornocracy, Pierre Woodman shares his grievances with certain porn produces whose women take 2 or 3 and sometimes four cocks in the ass. He states that all these women use lidocaine in their rectums and anus and they take drugs to help numb the pain of women’s pussies and assholes. He also states that men take a chemical agent to maintain erections.

These allegations he puts forth seem to explain how all these women are able to take a brutal anal pounding. And it also explains how men are able to keep their erections for so long with red faces(viagra makes men flush from the face).

If it’s true then it’s a little sad. Not for the women but for us, because we don’t get genuine reactions to hardcore Anal pounding.

Any thoughts?

Seeing this pathological liar at the start of this "documentary" should be enough to completely discredit it and its author.

[CanadianCouple]

lol at him stating men use chemicals for an erection

this is a NORMAL PART OF PORN, all the guys use something. viagra, cialis, etc. some go so far as to inject with caverject or something like that.Some guys have even got implants (in EU it is more common than you think).

The only reason he would say that as some "evil of porn" is because he wants to give the illusion that he is so great he doesn't need medications. lol

As for the merits of DAP and so forth. That is a personal opinion. Many performers enjoy doing (hence why they keep coming back). If they don't like it, they would try it once then never again. yes Legal Porno DAP scenes are tough and hard, but people are not coming out of it scarred and damaged and ruined for life; these performers want to create scenes like this for their fans. Almost every performer speaks well of working for their directors and performing for them; and get excited to come back and shoot more. How many girls come back and do 30 scenes with Woodman?

This guy plays the "poor me" card day in and day out. He is not a crusader to make porn better . he is someone who consistently creates narratives to smear one of his competitors. He is completely unprofessional.

[red_whre]

In the documentary Pornocracy, Pierre Woodman shares his grievances with certain porn produces whose women take 2 or 3 and sometimes four cocks in the ass. He states that all these women use lidocaine in their rectums and anus and they take drugs to help numb the pain of women’s pussies and assholes. He also states that men take a chemical agent to maintain erections.

These allegations he puts forth seem to explain how all these women are able to take a brutal anal pounding. And it also explains how men are able to keep their erections for so long with red faces(viagra makes men flush from the face).

If it’s true then it’s a little sad. Not for the women but for us, because we don’t get genuine reactions to hardcore Anal pounding.

Any thoughts?

that's a lot of bullshit

maybe some some times but most times i think they don't

[red_whre]

There is a *reason* for pain and if you feel it, that means you're doing something wrong and damaging your body. Numbing your ass so it doesn't hurt doesn't make the damage any less real.

and doing it without pain is like less pretty

[blublubeacha]

anal sex takes certain skills. pornstars have to become good at it, learn to relax. that kind of stuff so there is not a lot of pain. and really want it. it's nothing for wannabes

[dap-addict]

Seeing this pathological liar at the start of this "documentary" should be enough to completely discredit it and its author.

Terrible we have to get through this bs again and again!

Also any seasoned and compassionate user sees when a girl is aided to relax her ass muscle by a small dose and when she's just numbed to perform something she shouldn't put up with at that stage of her career yet. Its overused at a very seldom margin here, most time the effect is due to lower agent tolerance of the girls body, other studios may have a different attitude. I've seen really troubling blocked and dizzed out anal scenes shot elsewhere, also by self proclaimed experts. But its up to each of us to support those worth supporting and leave the rest.

[blownbyrone]

I can contest that I have shot for LP and woodman and never once had to take "medication" or use any drugs to do double anal. I also have never used lidocaine. So I may not be able to do the most extreme anal but Im pretty up there with the amount I can take. As for the boys I can't speak for them but me as a performer I haven't had to or wanted to use any of that. To the girls that I have seen use things like that are scolded and the scenes never make it to the viewer because if you have ever been to the dentist and they numb your mouth thats how their dick feels and it would be hard to maintain a erection without feeling anything. Or that must be some extreme mental will lol. The only thing I have used to make anal easier would be vaseline AND A SHIT TON OF LUBE! like Ive walked off set feeling like I took a bath in it. But I also left the sets feeling like a cum drunk idiot as well. I love shooting for LP because its the closes to real sex as it gets because we are doing some very intense sex acts. You can't fake the pleasure for double anal. You either look like your having an exorcism or awkward duck laying a egg.

[dap-addict]

Important input, thanks!

I just may add that viewers of course want to feel true feelings in their LP porn and any significant special lube dose run against that need. Thus relaxing anus yes, but not more and sure no pain / feelings numbing. Some girl may apply something more at the bathroom which is beyond directors control, but again if she's overdoing it she doesnt perform fine and the scene doest sell. Which equals no re-booking. Negative visible effects on male cast left aside.

So its neither in the interest of the studio nor the girl.

[blublubeacha]

Samantha knows how it's done. that's why i buy her scenes

[TrustMeImADoctor]

I may not be able to do the most extreme anal but

I'd say you're in the top 1%. Inspire me to want to be blown by Ron's personally

[TrustMeImADoctor]

Blown by rone ...damn gay auto type

[dap-addict]

To the girls that I have seen use things like that are scolded and the scenes never make it to the viewer because if you have ever been to the dentist and they numb your mouth thats how their dick feels and it would be hard to maintain a erection without feeling anything. Or that must be some extreme mental will lol.

Thats the core policy of LP.
While a small amount of low-% special lube not affecting the dicks much really may get used to relax the anus.

[CanadianCouple]

The whole lidocaine scare comes from Woodman. It is his narrative. he finds one or two girls who said they used it to finish a scene, or sees a tube in a video, and then he sells this narrative that women are being drugged and exploited. It really is a tiny part of the DAP business; most just load up on lube because as Samantha reminded us, it also fucks up the guy and how he feels when fucking.

It is a fake scare from a man trying to get fans to stop buying LP product.

But let's say somoene does take it; is this any worse than a construction guy popping Tylenol at 1pm because he needs to finish his shift and his back is sore from 10 years of doing construction?

So his main focus here is to try to horrify fans to stop buying LP by saying they all need drugs and are exploited injured damaged women. And that he is the one man in porn who does not use Viagra and it is an outrage that LP guys use it....

Samantha, you are one of the most relatable and most fun performers right now, and we all appreciate your fan interaction. But, I can speak for a lot of us and hope you steer clear of Woodman who is trying to harm a company you enjoy working for by spreading lies and fear mongering.

[kidloco2]

^ TBH lidocaine and the like helpers are used much more often then anywhere else. Those days where a girl was so anally trained that lube
was enough for DAP are gone. You can see it in the gapes quality. Artifically relaxed asshole tend to stay close every time, because the muscles
are controlled by mind.

[teammelee15]

I can contest that I have shot for LP and woodman and never once had to take "medication" or use any drugs to do double anal. I also have never used lidocaine. So I may not be able to do the most extreme anal but Im pretty up there with the amount I can take. As for the boys I can't speak for them but me as a performer I haven't had to or wanted to use any of that. To the girls that I have seen use things like that are scolded and the scenes never make it to the viewer because if you have ever been to the dentist and they numb your mouth thats how their dick feels and it would be hard to maintain a erection without feeling anything. Or that must be some extreme mental will lol. The only thing I have used to make anal easier would be vaseline AND A SHIT TON OF LUBE! like Ive walked off set feeling like I took a bath in it. But I also left the sets feeling like a cum drunk idiot as well. I love shooting for LP because its the closes to real sex as it gets because we are doing some very intense sex acts. You can't fake the pleasure for double anal. You either look like your having an exorcism or awkward duck laying a egg.

Wrong! The guys shoot up so. You could be knocked out and your dick would still be hard for over an hour

[crossarmlock]

They all use caverject and the documentary is ok nothing special just a criticism of mindgeek.