Giorgio... :(

[twistedvincent]

^No shark, he says they rated too low.

[twistedvincent]

Please don't misunderstand Giorgio, you're still my favorite, I'm just frustrated and sometimes confused. Your scenes with Anna De Ville and Lara, in addition to your Angel Smalls scenes were/are easily my favorites of 2017!

Now if only Holly Hendrix got your treatment as her scenes for gonzo were horrible IMO.

[dap-addict]

In the past I shot girls that "failed" as Gonzo, such as Belle or Francys for make a well known example. These 2 girls were terrible ranked when I start to shoot them but with some good scene they arrived in first page of model list.
Francys now is again at page 3 and Belle lost some position (she was in the top 5, now she is probably not even in the top 10) but I do not really want to talk about Belle.
Was easy before to take under-rated model and work on then, now I think the investment would not be profitable as the models they do not get much job elsewhere and so they do not get skilled enough...

Some very interesting insights, Giorgio.
I would have thought that with closer collaboration of LP and DDF it was easier to have TWM girls also work in Budapest and not only Prague.

Anyway, old tactic seemed to be good basically, you really beamed these girls up to new heights and I think Claire Belles current rank 12 despite of quite a few recent gonzo scenes shows us that its not possible to go to TOP 10 really without working for you. Well, it was her decision. And her planned retirement may be linked to that missing top success even at LP.
Just a guess. But not your biz anymore.

I dont really understand those wishes having you shoot instantly all new gonzo models, really. Isn't it better studios scout their own and different girls?!
Still there is a lot of potential in the talent pools of Russia and Ukraine hidden away. The clue is only to scout them and bring the new ones in!

And than finally, get them maybe to move to Prague for 1-2 years like Kira Thorn or Anna Rey, just to have them ready at hand easier!

[hjohjole]

I don't care about the politics. Im a simple man, i just want to see some teenage girls get fucked in the ass.

Please try to make this happen. That is all i ask for.

[Vawkes]

OK Giorgio, I appreciate that you're responding and kind of understand. But the fact is you're not going to have high sales at all, especially from long time members like myself, if you continue to use the same girls over and over ... period.

Especially the ones that are not very pretty, you know who they are.

I have to agree.

Your explanations are appreciated, Giorgio, and I still love your work. However, unless scenes have really beautiful, attractive girls, then I will not purchase your content.

Sofya Curly was a great new addition recently and it is that sort of natural beauty that we want to see. Also, more 5-on-1, 7-on-1 scenes please. More than one girl is distracting and hard to focus on.

[blublubeacha]

Cathy heaven scene is amazing. more cathy is always nice. i wanna see more milfs

[kidloco2]

Sometimes I dont understand whats going on over there in the GG studios. Sooooooo many beautiful girls that take BIGGER dicks DAP over at Gonzo then the GG guys but the scenes are sh#t and I dont dare buy them. GG shots the best stuff even with so so girls. I dont think anyone can dispute that. But to not shot girls because they didn't sell well because they did ONE whole boring DP scene over at Sh%t gonzo is just stupid. Im American so maybe I just have a different way of thinking then you Europeans but god d@mn makes no sense to me what so ever. Thier HOT, they can take BIG dicks. Shot them with your GOOD style of capturing their true beauty and potential.

I don't get it too. Sometimes I think nothing is not good enough for Giorgio and the result is missing some opportunities and shooting over repetitive scenes with mostly the same girls.
Nobody will stay successful shooting the same over and over.
Recently there is a new interesting girl Sofia Curly, but again the rest stayed the same - positions, scene setup, decorations
This is contrast with Gonzo, which doesn't hesitate to shoot any good looking anal friendly girl.

Anyway let Giorgio shoot what he wants, I don't care a shit anymore, but it's just pitty, because those girls are there, just look around on amateur sites or social networks

[cancu823]

Hello George, I really enjoyed the scenes of the new series "Intimacy" even though I would have expected better from the splendid Dominica .. In any case the idea is very good and I would like to see more, especially for what concerns the big penetrations and the cream ..
Thank you for everything you do.

[VBT_2]

Factor - 2
Lack of "model management" create a "bubble" of models exploited in the wrong way, with the result that is not even worth to shoot them again

Result: part of the available fist in the lake are not "selling" properly

I didn’t understand this, specially “not even worth to shoot them again” part. Could you explain?

Is it solution to shoot lower number of scenes, but with even higher quality and expenses? With multiple cameras, longer production (and shooting time) which catch very peaks of intense, and better payment for models? This way you should get the best of the given number of fishes in the lake. Less scenes – less repetition, less cost in whole, bigger average number of purchasing-per-scene, higher prices, more energy to iron-out everything to perfection… that’s how it looks in my eyes.

[twistedvincent]

SMH...
Monika Wild & Dominica Phoenix, AGAIN. I am sorry but Monica is NOT a pretty girl. Especially when compared to Julie Skyhigh, Sofi G, Bella, etc.

Well on the bright side my tickets will last for another 2 years at this rate.

[hjohjole]

Cathy heaven scene is amazing. more cathy is always nice. i wanna see more milfs

Well you are in luck then. If it is indeed as hard to find new good talent as Giorgio says then i predict that we will be seeing a lot more milfs in the future.

[Sir Noel]

SMH...
Monika Wild & Dominica Phoenix, AGAIN. I am sorry but Monica is NOT a pretty girl. Especially when compared to Julie Skyhigh, Sofi G, Bella, etc.

Well on the bright side my tickets will last for another 2 years at this rate.

Disagree, disagree, disagree. True you see these girls a lot but this was an excellent scene. Monika may not be the very prettiest but this scene was beyond the usual rerun of endless double anal positions. The fisting and how it was integrated into the scene was one of the best examples so far.
Good job Giorgio, Dominica and especially Monika!!

[blublubeacha]

Cathy heaven scene is amazing. more cathy is always nice. i wanna see more milfs

Well you are in luck then. If it is indeed as hard to find new good talent as Giorgio says then i predict that we will be seeing a lot more milfs in the future.

i would love that. i personally don't care about age as you can see from my posts. attractive or not is my criteria

[dap-addict]

Disagree, disagree, disagree. True you see these girls a lot but this was an excellent scene. Monika may not be the very prettiest but...Good job Giorgio, Dominica and especially Monika!!

First find a girl as talented as Monika!!!
Than name me a porn girl able to perform similar stuff at a similar level and shooting such a flawless body still. Apart from her tattoos maybe.
Really sort of tired to read all those complains about Monika Wild here!
Has somebody ever though how it must feel for her to read this all?


Ok, Monika has liberated herself, she choose her way and she'll stick to it.
Btw, it was a good move I think to go back from blond to her natural hair. Fits just better. And yes, I hope for many more Monika Wild scenes for GIO and gonzo in 2018! Maybe just also different settings and play, not only fisting always...

[pastaga]

I love Monika Wild, she's in my TWM top 3 even without her skills. Would love a "vegetables insertions" scene with her for a change...

[dap-addict]

For me Monika Wild is current TWM nr. 5.
I want much more of her in 2018!
Sure please TAP her, too!

[twistedvincent]

I have never seen a post by Monica so I never gave a thought as to how she would feel.

To tell the truth I enjoyed her scenes, the first TWO OR THREE times (especially facialized). But counting her scenes with other girls (Jasmine Jae etc.) she has over a staggering TEN SCENES (a quick count).

And I'm sorry but she a VERY AVERAGE girl at best and in no way deserves as many OR MORE scenes than Sofy, Julie, Belle or the rest.

[twistedvincent]

And for fucks sake, I have always liked Dominica to but FIFTY FUCKING SCENES???
Why the hell would I part with any more tickets to see her when there is absolutely nothing we've not seen her do already?

[magizi877]

And for fucks sake, I have always liked Dominica to but FIFTY FUCKING SCENES???
Why the hell would I part with any more tickets to see her when there is absolutely nothing we've not seen her do already?

When you like a girl, you are gonna buy most if not all her scenes.
Same thing with music for instance :P

[twistedvincent]

Yes but musicians release NEW music, How cocks can we possibly fit into Dominica?
C'mon, we've seen it all!

[dap-addict]

Why the hell would I part with any more tickets to see her when there is absolutely nothing we've not seen her do already?

Because I like her!
Because no scene is exactly like the other!
Because I dont support the stupid US 1 pusssy only, than 1 anal, than 1 dp, than 1 dap, than 1 piss scene = max. 5-7 scenes approach!
Because she doesnt fuck always the same guys.
Because like everybody she has better and worse days and they show on set and in the end product.
Because I like her dressed differently for her on set work and I wanna savor her style.
Beasuse she works with different girls and sometimes alone!
Because!

Because she's Monika Wild or Domenica Phoenix or girlXY and I enjoy her porn works!

[Sir Noel]

Dominica clearly gets a lot of scenes as a fister, not just as a normal model. In those terms she is often like one of the guys, except she gets fucked as well!

[kidloco2]

^ for instance not in my case anymore. I've burnt myself a couple times following this routine, including beloved Kristy Black.
Regarding Monica although I think she is quite pretty (I mean not ugly) I didn't even bother to watch her trailer yet.
I need NEW INVENTIONS in LP scenes. Who FFS steps in the same muddy puddle when there's a sea behind it?

[Jimbo8012395]

The scene with Sofya Curly was amazing. From my perspective I've not seen a lot of stuff that says buy from Giorgio or Legalporno for ages as I'm a bit tired/jaded of the endless round robin DAPs etc with the same girls.

Giorgio needs to film her again. Gorgeous, slim but curvy and a great performer.

[Iddaoeeok]

Monika is lovely! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

[twistedvincent]

Why the hell would I part with any more tickets to see her when there is absolutely nothing we've not seen her do already?

Because I like her!
Because no scene is exactly like the other!
Because I dont support the stupid US 1 pusssy only, than 1 anal, than 1 dp, than 1 dap, than 1 piss scene = max. 5-7 scenes approach!
Because she doesnt fuck always the same guys.
Because like everybody she has better and worse days and they show on set and in the end product.
Because I like her dressed differently for her on set work and I wanna savor her style.
Beasuse she works with different girls and sometimes alone!
Because!

Because she's Monika Wild or Domenica Phoenix or girlXY and I enjoy her porn works!

Well I guess you told me.
Personally I won't be buying any more from her and I doubt that anybody other than her hardcore fans will buy them either.

[twistedvincent]

Also could somebody explain to me what the problem with finding and booking new girls for Giorgio. Nothing against him at all but I couldn't follow Giorgio's explanation because his English is not good sometimes.

[twistedvincent]

Because I dont support the stupid US 1 pusssy only, than 1 anal, than 1 dp, than 1 dap, than 1 piss scene = max. 5-7 scenes approach!

Ummm do you not realize that the girls US do it that way (the SMART WAY) because once you jump to anal that's pretty much all scenes you get offered after. And once you jump to DAP scenes in the US (usually) your star fades quickly and bookings dry up. If you take it slow you can make a career last for YEARS instead of just months like most Euro-Girls who seem to all come and go in a year.

[pastaga]

Ummm do you not realize that the girls US do it that way (the SMART WAY) because once you jump to anal that's pretty much all scenes you get offered after. And once you jump to DAP scenes in the US (usually) your star fades quickly and bookings dry up. If you take it slow you can make a career last for YEARS instead of just months like most Euro-Girls who seem to all come and go in a year.

Not all the girls want to spend 5+ years in porn.
Also hardcore and soft porn have different customers. I don't think a lot of LP members are also met-art fans...

[drevokocur66]

Because I dont support the stupid US 1 pusssy only, than 1 anal, than 1 dp, than 1 dap, than 1 piss scene = max. 5-7 scenes approach!

Ummm do you not realize that the girls US do it that way (the SMART WAY) because once you jump to anal that's pretty much all scenes you get offered after. And once you jump to DAP scenes in the US (usually) your star fades quickly and bookings dry up. If you take it slow you can make a career last for YEARS instead of just months like most Euro-Girls who seem to all come and go in a year.

Anal is a quick way to get work in porn. Non anal girls have much harder time getting work, unless they are just drop dead gorgeous. Personally, I don't watch non anal scenes, ever, even if it is a favorite girl. BORING.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Tell this to Adriana Chechik...
This is absolutely not true btw, in USA there are many company they do not shoot anal at all (as in europe), to shoot anal/dp means to have more work.
Euro is different, most of girls do porn only for money, while in USA they want to be stars and having a system that allows to make stars helps. Euro-market with the end of DVD industry, did not established a structure that generate starts, but only a system based on lies created only for grab as more girls is possible in the industry instead of enhancing those who are already part of it.

Because I dont support the stupid US 1 pusssy only, than 1 anal, than 1 dp, than 1 dap, than 1 piss scene = max. 5-7 scenes approach!

Ummm do you not realize that the girls US do it that way (the SMART WAY) because once you jump to anal that's pretty much all scenes you get offered after. And once you jump to DAP scenes in the US (usually) your star fades quickly and bookings dry up. If you take it slow you can make a career last for YEARS instead of just months like most Euro-Girls who seem to all come and go in a year.

[Kaderon]

Speaking of same girls over and over again. The latest scene with Dominica Phoenix is her third scene within 3 weeks. Unbelievable how monotonous GG has become.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I remember a time when Private was releasing 4 "all sex movie"/month with 5 scenes each (means 20 scenes) and 4-5 models were the same, every dam month. Same for most of DVD distributors.. and sales where so good that this system continued for 10 years or so. And I do not count the movies with story where the talents where for 75% every time the same.
Then internet gave a different way to enjoy the content and many small websites appeared on the net, each of them basing their strategy on riding "new girls", specially before the competitors, because the audience they were able to reach was every time limited, period. Im one of the people that enjoined that system for several years when I was in Russia.
Now, as LP reach a huge audience and release a lot of content fishing on a pretty small pool of talents it is important to use the talent as longer as possible and be able to have the content selling well, even repeating the same talent.

Now, check out here: https://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2018/01
GIO504 is in the top10 of the month at 15th day and I doubt the scene wont be in the top15 at the end of the month. Does it makes sense to shoot and publish that scene with such resoult?
Yes, it does it.

I am still pretty sure the content has more value then the performer, at least now on LP.

[pornlover_holland]

There is nothing wrong with shooting the same girls over and over again. Giorgio does that, but he also shoots scenes with new girls quite regularly.
What I really like about his scenes is that they are mostly anal-only and very hard (lots of gangbangs, orgies, double anal, gaping and fisting).
If he has found some girls who are able to do such scenes it is perfectly logical that he shoots these girls over and over again.

I watch his scenes to see very explicit anal sex. Off course not every porngirl is willing or able to perform in his scenes. So he should choose the girls who can really do this. No problem if he shoots some girls over and over again, as long as the scenes are good and the action is hard off course.

[Sir Noel]

I think the GIO504 scene is excellent. It contains some great standing double anal, awesome fisting and at one point Dominica is actually jerking one of the guys off inside Monica's asshole.
I think actually the trailer fails to show some of the best bits. The scene deserves a lot more praise as it is a really hard and intense scene. I feel a bit sorry for Giorgio actually because this is the kind of scene you'd film and expect people to be amazed by, but all he has got is complaints.

[Kaderon]

I feel a bit sorry for Giorgio actually because this is the kind of scene you'd film and expect people to be amazed by, but all he has got is complaints.

I am not saying it's a bad scene. I can only speak for myself but I am just not interested in watching the same girls over and over again. I am also not interested in eating the same meal over and over again, or listing to the same song over and over again. But maybe I am just not such a hardcore porn fan who jerks off to everything he sees on screen.


@Giorgio

That's an honest question without any ulterior motive or allegations. You say the talent pool is very small these days. Can it be that the girls just doesn't make enough money with shooting porn anymore?

[dap-addict]

Agree with your cloths critic - but for Monika Wild only. Dominica Phenix actually had an excellent sadly becoming rare classic style, really nice.
Not really agree with the boys-too-fast approach of yours. I actually really enjoyed that before the 1st minute ends we get the 1st anal and in the 7th min its 1st balls deep DAP.
I mean so many ask for a change of formula, thats a change of formula!

Generally for me GIO504 was excellent, just really excellent!
And as Sir_Noel I also feel sorry that Giorgio Grandi has to hear all these complains here. But critics also always help, lets remember that!
Long fast and deep DAP workout in many positions, position changes and DAP insertions usually shown, great standing DAP footage for both girls, great fisting actions for Monika Wild, even a studs fist up to his wrist finally! Just really great.

[Giorgio Grandi]

That's an honest question without any ulterior motive or allegations. You say the talent pool is very small these days. Can it be that the girls just doesn't make enough money with shooting porn anymore?

This is the main problem, if you think the "starting payout" for a model is the same as 12 years ago...

[dap-addict]

Giorgio, so for Czech its basically EU accession 13 years ago.
All salaries went up, just for porn actresses it stayed the same or almost the same.
But still, with 1 DAP they can earn as much as a bank accountant in 1 month! Its still attractive fast money, but not sustainable and also not as much as to really create a hype like in 2002. Is that the problem in Czech and also Hungary?

But than second, east of EU:
In Russia and Ukraine due to crisis (and sanctions and war) salaries went down not up.
Porn actresses still earn the same than 12 years ago or even a bit more actually. Especially since in 2006 they worked at home, now they work in EU. Thus more!
What we have logically is more Russian and Ukrainian talent performing in porn than Czech and Hungarian talent.
But Giorgio, now here please tell me whats the problem in this pool?
I dont see the salary problem really?
Its still really attractive money for them!
Or not?
Why?

[Giorgio Grandi]

Prostitution is more profitable for a girl, she can do easy 20k month. For what I know the "average tour" is 30 days, but as soon as she finish one tour is pretty easy to setup a new one. Porn doenst give even 1/5 on yearly base of what prostitution gives.
Payout of porn should be 3 time higher for be interesting, at least
Most of Russian/Ucrain girls prefer prostitution, from my understanding, for 1 new girl that join porn 10 or so join prostitution.

A good new comer, a very good one, does 20% of what she would do in prostitution, maybe 30% (on yearly base)

There is no way out, this is how it is.

Giorgio, so for Czech its basically EU accession 13 years ago.
All salaries went up, just for porn actresses it stayed the same or almost the same.
But still, with 1 DAP they can earn as much as a bank accountant in 1 month! Its still attractive fast money, but not sustainable and also not as much as to really create a hype like in 2002. Is that the problem in Czech and also Hungary?

But than second, east of EU:
In Russia and Ukraine due to crisis (and sanctions and war) salaries went down not up.
Porn actresses still earn the same than 12 years ago or even a bit more actually. Especially since in 2006 they worked at home, now they work in EU. Thus more!
What we have logically is more Russian and Ukrainian talent performing in porn than Czech and Hungarian talent.
But Giorgio, now here please tell me whats the problem in this pool?
I dont see the salary problem really?
Its still really attractive money for them!
Or not?
Why?