Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

[dap-addict]

IV078 & IV079 (both with Angel Karyna and Kira Noir) cost 12tkt for 105min!
I'm I the only one to think thats really very steep a price?

I get the reason why GIO has to split scenes with considerable extra investment like renting a special place, having extra people on set or a split dictated by the action. But here we have just 2 girls paired with the usual BBC and in the usual IV studio. No extra investment, apart from the fact that US Kira Noir is sure more expensive to book for DAP and fisting than the Moldavian MILF Angel Karyna. I'd easily pay 6tkt for that whole scene, but asked for 12 tkts feels like somebody abusing a possibility just to get more money out of the fan.

Yet another guess: Most IV scenes dont sell fine anyway. Do you wanna compensate missing profits by spliiting the scenes now?

Better option might be to start listeing to your customers!

[Kriss1986]

IV078 & IV079 (both with Angel Karyna and Kira Noir) cost 12tkt for 105min!
I'm I the only one to think thats really very steep a price?

I get the reason why GIO has to split scenes with considerable extra investment like renting a special place, having extra people on set or a split dictated by the action. But here we have just 2 girls paired with the usual BBC and in the usual IV studio. No extra investment, apart from the fact that US Kira Noir is sure more expensive to book for DAP and fisting than the Moldavian MILF Angel Karyna. I'd easily pay 6tkt for that whole scene, but asked for 12 tkts feels like somebody abusing a possibility just to get more money out of the fan.

Yet another guess: Most IV scenes dont sell fine anyway. Do you wanna compensate missing profits by spliiting the scenes now?

Better option might be to start listeing to your customers!

Price always should depends on quality and let's face it, quality of IV scenes leaves much to be desired to put it mildly. I'm able to pay extra price but content needs to be better than my expectations. We shouldn't even think about comparison GG and IV because IV is far far behind GG, it's like hundreds of light years. Mr Giorgio is virtuosso and he proved it multiple times producing exceptional good videos with awesome actions and scenarios while IV didn't show nothing special. I don't know what they are thinking but it's not step in good direction.

[magizi877]

I agree with DAP-Addict in regards to the aggressive pricing.

12 tkt for a scene that kinda looks ordinary is just abusive as OP puts it.
The first "part" almost has no intercourse in the screenshots and I thought -they want 6 tkt for "this"?!

I go to a hardcore website to watch: men nailing beautiful women, that's it.
I care zip about girl on girl action. To me that's bonus material at best.
But in that scene, the first part is mostly girl on girl action.
So the male on female part, was the bonus material. You guys misunderstand your audience so badly.

There is a reason why Gonzo decided to terminate their lesbian series.
Sineplex promised they would continue to film them, but there was not enough people supporting that,
because even them, simply didn't put out any significant amount of said content, in fact I can only remember one attempt as their nod to that crowd.

Now the second part, IV079, looks more in line with what I like, but here is the catch.
If I buy it, I'm gonna feel it's missing the first part and I'm simply not gonna blow 30% of my tkt monthly budget, into one scene. (12 divided by 40 is 0.3) 0.3 is 30%

That is just stupid decision making for me. Not gonna buy something that makes me feel like an idiot.

And if that isn't enough, 2 girl scenes, don't hold any replay value for me.
Meaning if I watch a 2 girl scene, 99.99% of the time, I forget about it in around 2 days.
That's pretty much worthless right there.

Simply, if you have two girls in one scene, you also need two directors. Because one will just miss crucial action.
And you need actors who can actually make it work. Make it look like they can actually handle two, hot babes at once.
Like Nacho for instance:





I had to go back, 3 YEARS, to find a 2 girl scene. I actually like.

JUST SAYING.

[Kriss1986]

I agree with DAP-Addict in regards to the aggressive pricing.

12 tkt for a scene that kinda looks ordinary is just abusive as OP puts it.
The first "part" almost has no intercourse in the screenshots and I thought -they want 6 tkt for "this"?!

I go to a hardcore website to watch: men nailing beautiful women, that's it.
I care zip about girl on girl action. To me that's bonus material at best.
But in that scene, the first part is mostly girl on girl action.
So the male on female part, was the bonus material. You guys misunderstand your audience so badly.

There is a reason why Gonzo decided to terminate their lesbian series.
Sineplex promised they would continue to film them, but there was not enough people supporting that,
because even them, simply didn't put out any significant amount of said content, in fact I can only remember one attempt as their nod to that crowd.

Now the second part, IV079, looks more in line with what I like, but here is the catch.
If I buy it, I'm gonna feel it's missing the first part and I'm simply not gonna blow 30% of my tkt monthly budget, into one scene. (12 divided by 40 is 0.3) 0.3 is 30%

That is just stupid decision making for me. Not gonna buy something that makes me feel like an idiot.

And if that isn't enough, 2 girl scenes, don't hold any replay value for me.
Meaning if I watch a 2 girl scene, 99.99% of the time, I forget about it in around 2 days.
That's pretty much worthless right there.

Simply, if you have two girls in one scene, you also need two directors. Because one will just miss crucial action.
And you need actors who can actually make it work. Make it look like they can actually handle two, hot babes at once.
Like Nacho for instance:





I had to go back, 3 YEARS, to find a 2 girl scene. I actually like.

JUST SAYING.

It's a great statement precisely described IV issues!

[timjom]

Just based on the trailer, looks like the new Brittany Bardot/Lucy Angel scene is another 6 ticket per half scene, with the first half just being some lesbian stuff and then a little bit of dick sucking at the end.

[blackmanwhat350]

Pricing scheme for their content is ridiculously so unless you have unlimited money laying around I would suggest viewers to only pick a few of their favourite models doing IR or extremely rare Kira Noir DAP since you can't any scene of her doing that anywhere else yet. That only I will pay Part 2. Fisting portion on Part 1 you are better off getting her from Kink's Everythingbutt who does fisting justice to US models. This splitting version need to stop unless it is big budget/production multi-scene showcase. Fans and viewers will figure it out eventually and stop buying their content. I use to love Sineplex back in the day now I rarely buy any of their content. I'm already one foot out and the door. You guys better listening to feedbacks from your paying customers or else.

[kidloco2]

IMHO the price is crazy just because Joakim demands high revenue. He's hungry boy and he tries to trick customers to think that latest scenes feature something special, but it's not. Splitting shot material is the oldest directors' trick.

Additionally his latest scenes are the worst ones he shot in a few years. Far worst then even some of his cuckold stuff he sold for Combat Zone or other studios.

He makes a big mistake, to act and not shoot and direct, he probably can't resist and fully participates in the scenes while he should do the camera
and direct the scene.
Really bad amateurish camera shots and cuts right there. Not worth any TKT for me. Plus his scenes completely omits gapes, which is a no no for me.
Really pitty I liked his old stuff.

[Kriss1986]

IMHO the price is crazy just because Joakim demands high revenue. He's hungry boy and he tries to trick customers to think that latest scenes feature something special, but it's not. Splitting shot material is the oldest directors' trick.

Additionally his latest scenes are the worst ones he shot in a few years. Far worst then even some of his cuckold stuff he sold for Combat Zone or other studios.

He makes a big mistake, to act and not shoot and direct, he probably can't resist and fully participates in the scenes while he should do the camera
and direct the scene.
Really bad amateurish camera shots and cuts right there. Not worth any TKT for me. Plus his scenes completely omits gapes, which is a no no for me.
Really pitty I liked his old stuff.

I'm with you mate! IV is a great example how to not manage the biz. This shitty strategy will revenge on them soon.

[dap-addict]

IV095/096 and now IV100
Again and again!

Also just dont get it why with such a shitty attitude towads the customers he gets the girls first so often?

[Kriss1986]

IV095/096 and now IV100
Again and again!

Also just dont get it why with such a shitty attitude towads the customers he gets the girls first so often?

Maybe it's matter of some magic tricks .

[Slayer21]

Bad, bad studio, cuting scenes in bad point, when you MUST buy the second part, and the same mistake of this Legal Porno site...THE HORRIBLE BRA COVERING THE FRINKING BOOBS! like this last one https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33121/ ... rt_2_iv101
You people who come to this forums don´t care about complain, they don´t give a &"%$ what your opinion is, I did just to vent.

[Kriss1986]

Bad, bad studio, cuting scenes in bad point, when you MUST buy the second part, and the same mistake of this Legal Porno site...THE HORRIBLE BRA COVERING THE FRINKING BOOBS! like this last one https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33121/ ... rt_2_iv101
You people who come to this forums don´t care about complain, they don´t give a &"%$ what your opinion is, I did just to vent.

It's hard to not agree with you. You pointed main issues of IV. I must admit, covering boobs during whole scene is some kind of madness!

[Slayer21]

Yeah Kriss and thx, and to add something, I am agree LP have the good very hard anal action in porn, but dude, did you see the clothes, some outfits are good, but almost all the time they wear their models like 70´s porn with panthyhose, ugly shoes, ugly lace outfits, they should take a look to amaerican productions, us pornstars wearing hot bikinis, hot shoes, hot outfits, I won´t post images of them cus is useless how I said, they don´t give a &%$ what we say, just tell you If I were a porn director working for LP I would sweep with some directors here and level up the sales, I bet some of you do too. Bye.

[Kriss1986]

Yeah Kriss and thx, and to add something, I am agree LP have the good very hard anal action in porn, but dude, did you see the clothes, some outfits are good, but almost all the time they wear their models like 70´s porn with panthyhose, ugly shoes, ugly lace outfits, they should take a look to amaerican productions, us pornstars wearing hot bikinis, hot shoes, hot outfits, I won´t post images of them cus is useless how I said, they don´t give a &%$ what we say, just tell you If I were a porn director working for LP I would sweep with some directors here and level up the sales, I bet some of you do too. Bye.

Well they even don't need to look to american productions, great example of awesome outfits can be found in SOS productions. They knew how to dress girls in proper way.

[Slayer21]

Now almost all the vids here are 2 parts, abusive spliting, oh yeah.

[Kriss1986]

Now almost all the vids here are 2 parts, abusive spliting, oh yeah.

It is what it is... They chose own path...

[dap-addict]

Yeah!
Dec 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 25th
Nov 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 23rd

Either Joachim is content with minimum profit, or his limp co-fuckers work for free or he has invented a business perpetuum mobile!

[Kriss1986]

Yeah!
Dec 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 25th
Nov 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 23rd

Either Joachim is content with minimum profit, or his limp co-fuckers work for free or he has invented a business perpetuum mobile!

2018 ? Probably you meant 2017 . Anyway the rankings speaks for itself...

[ponteEN4]

IV095/096 and now IV100
Again and again!

Also just dont get it why with such a shitty attitude towads the customers he gets the girls first so often?

Maybe it's matter of some magic tricks .

the most beautiful and powerful magic that moves the hearts of millions of people after religion the magic of the xxx edition

[subwhtbot]

I've bought all the better quality IR videos on LP, but none of the 2-parters. They're too expensive, and it has me thinking about not renewing my 3 month membership when expires in a few days.