Ticket Prices Out Of Fucking Control!

[dap-addict]

All I can say is prices are still fair and just reflexcting investments made into a given scene.
5tkt price with GIO is quite steep, but its because he has to pay % for LP sales plattform. And he still needs money to produce those scenes! Same with SOS.
Especially with GIO we hve been enticed at the start with ridiculousely low ticket prices! It was fully clear thats not sustainable and they have to rise!

[magizi877]

I would need to do the math, but, I'm not entirely sold on the idea to adjust the price of a scene based on how much it was invested to produce it.

The price for a ticket of a movie played in the cinema, it's the same, whether said movie costed 200 million dollars or 2 million dollars. (Without considering 3D or 4DX).
Imagine if instead they use the same Legalporno system, your average movie would be $5 and the avg block buster movie would be, what? $200?

At those prices, it would no longer be a block buster movie, cause very few would take that kind of hit to their wallets.

The problem I think, is that high budget scenes (4 to 5 tkt), decrease the amount of people who experience them. And if you read the forums here, it even encourages some people to pirate them.

Look at the best seller scenes, and you'll see the 10x10 Xmas orgy at number one, despite being released a few months ago And it's competing against 2-3 year old scenes)
The big budget caught the attention of many, and it came available for cheap, at 2.5 tkt, a full tkt cheaper than the average gonzo price, which is noticeable more affordable than the other two studios.
But it was probably 10 to 20 times more expensive to do. Maybe even more cause they even filmed it in what looks to be a different place, they used 3 camera men, etc.
That made the scene a no-brainer even for people like me that otherwise ignore such orgy scenes.

I think cheaper prices allowed Gonzo.com to grow. That or XXX is just so much better at the business man department.

This gets interesting, Because the price might be putting off people that would otherwise enjoy such scenes.
People recommend with others what they enjoy. So more people getting the scenes, the higher the chance words gets spread that LP is doing amazing stuff.
And that just brings more people in! more $$$

Everybody wins. Or so I think

[kidloco2]

Agreed on huge price diffs depending on money spent per scene bullshit. Every producer knows that low budget scenes (which are usually a hair cheaper) would compensate for
those with bigger budgets, and even at some point huge budget scenes are the least profitable but brings extra value for customers, those
attach new customers or keep existing.

If scenes prices are rising it can also mean that LP wants to invest money to something that will bring even more money (be it some kind of production value - which seems to be the case with Giorgio, or other things like traveling actors around the globe, buying houses in Prague etc.)

[twistedvincent]

BTW magizi, yourr blog it TOTALLY FAP worthy!!

[dap-addict]

Agreed on huge price diffs depending on money spent per scene bullshit. Every producer knows that low budget scenes (which are usually a hair cheaper) would compensate for those with bigger budgets

Of course they would, but why for once no choose this transparency? Like educatiing the fans, grown up porn expert fans, not fap forever cheap naked body folks?

[dap-addict]

sorry, double post!

[twistedvincent]

WTF is going on??

Why the 4.2 ticket price for the latest Nicole Love (SZ1375) non-dap scene. Did you give the male "talent" a raise or something?

What justifies the continually higher prices??

[BigpoppaG]

Paying for scenes? Have any of you fools heard of torrents

[drevokocur66]

WTF is going on??

Why the 4.2 ticket price for the latest Nicole Love (SZ1375) non-dap scene. Did you give the male "talent" a raise or something?

What justifies the continually higher prices??

I don't mind if the scenes are worth it, but majority are not (for me). Fortunately I only have 60 tickets left and once that is done, I am gone. Some more fisting scenes from GIO and I will be spent. Lara's perversion (the first part) was fantastic! (bought second part for support.) Great scenes are far few and in between for me to buy another batch of 250 tickets.

[twistedvincent]

^ I KNOW RIGHT!!

I'm down to 15 tickets and back when I was an LP noob and as soon as I ran low I'd fork over another 80.00 but now??

If I do indeed re-up It would be ONLY for Giorgio's scenes.

[rollin_dubs187]

I have to say, most of the scenes I pay 5 tickets for ends up being a disappointment. However scenes in the 2 to 3 ticket range I am generally much more satisfied with. Probably because expensive scenes are majorly dominated with dap, and I HATE dap. Too bad it has become the norm. What ever happend to 2 chick and 1 dick? Some of the best atms , ass licking, gapes I have ever scene come from this genre. Check out misha cross and jesse volt scene from evilangel (cant remember the movie title) that scene has more gapes and bigger assholes than anything I have ever seen on here, and that with just christian clay, who is not huge by any means. I generally will skip most scenes at that price and save my tickets for something cheaper.

[Mizar5]

According to Mark Speigler of Spieglers Girls in the US there's about 250 in demand actresses and their rates are pretty much straightforward scale as follows:
$800 for a girl-girl scene
$1,000 for a guy-girl scene
$1,200 or more for anal sex
$4,000 or more for "double penetration"
I can only imagine how much DAP scenes are.

only a true, remorseless, head-in-the-clouds wanker would listen to an agent on prices and give any credence to it.

those numbers are a joke.

instead of talking to an agent, why don't you talk to someone who actually makes the films and pays the models. when last i checked, because of the internet and the competition from gazillions of chicks trying to do porn, the rate is much much much much much lower.

although i didn't see an actual check, i was laughed at when i asked out of curiosity if the rates were something exhorbitant like that.

come way down. if a bitch is thinking she's gonna get much more than $500 for a M/F scene, he's gonna laugh her ass off the set. $4000 for a DP? gimme a freaking break. no wonder these companies get rich. wankers just have no concept of value.

[kidloco2]

Adult business entertainment is the third world's largest business (not including escort, public houses or prostitution) right after weapons and drugs. You didn't know that?

[Ass2Die4464]

I just hope that LP stays to its principles. If I understand the LP concept is fans pay for what they want to see that why we more often than not get exactly what we want to see in larger quantities than any other site in creation. That being said there are exception for things that XXX has said he does not want to produce. Now back to the point I expect prices to increase if we keep asking for more and more extreme content. Does anyone expect that an Boy on Girl scenes are is same price as (5 or 10 or 20 or 50) Boys on a Girl scene. At least lets be honest with ourselves before we complain about prices. My hope is that that the price of making those scenes are reflected in the ticket prices so us as consumers can decide if we want to pay it. What I don't want to happen is that a 1on1 scene cost the same as a 100on1 scene. If consumers decide they like 100on1 scene then they should be comfortable paying the additional cost for it and not push that the cost is shared with the 1on1 scenes. If LP does this the whole principle of customers paying for what they want and influencing directors with their tickets is a sham. The piracy problem will never go away because people always want something for nothing. So I don't agree with the argument to make the price cheaper and it will stop it. I was a Giorigo No Rest For The Ass customer and prices were dirt cheap but his stuff was still some of the most pirated stuff on the internet. Maybe I'm the minority is this thought process but I believe everyone should be willing to pay for what they want and not pass the price onto others.

What I find ridiculous is the price of same things varying greatly. It makes no sense. If we look at fetishes we can all see that their is an order of difficulty involved in them and the prices correspond to that difficulty (in order of difficulty):

• pussy
• anal
• dp
• dap
• dpp
• tap

I know there is going to be some variance for popularity of the model but common now how does this happen in any studio:

Sineplex ( how are these 2 scenes both work 5 tickets)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31545/k ... king_rs256 (ANAL)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31496/j ... tish_rs257 (ANAL and DP)

Gonzo (why a 1.2 ticket difference)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31596/s ... _dp_sz1484 (1st DP on LP)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31576/s ... _dp_sz1476 (1st DP on LP)

Giorgio (why the 1.5 ticket difference)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31628/d ... _it_gio239 (DP, DAP, Gape)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31590/b ... low_gio222 (DP, DAP, Gape, Interracial)

I'm not trying to tell any director what they should charge but I think it adds to the confusion and customer un-satisfaction when they spend around 5 tickets but get to totally different experience for it. Last comparison, I spend 5.5 tickets for this Giorgio scene 5on2 Anal, DAP, TAP, AssToMouth and I'm very satisfied then I spend 5 tickets for this Sineplex scene 2on2 anal interracial and I feel cheated. How do you get a higher level of debauchery and performers for only .5 tickets.

Easiest solution is always simplest, translate the price to tickets and let customers decide if they are willing to pay for that type of scene or not. Just don't try and makeup the difference of the expenses scenes on the cheaper ones.

[laura.]

I agree with your questioning of the disparity on the Sparta and Valentina scenes which just seems illogical, however Belle is arguably LP's most popular performer (certainly Giorgio's) and shifts volume, hence the higher price. I hope 5.5 remains the absolute max, not sure they could justify anything higher, unless it was a something truly epic and groundbreaking.

[dap-addict]

I agree with your questioning of the disparity on the Sparta and Valentina scenes which just seems illogical,

Its not illocical: Sparta is Russian and Valentina is from Spain, just compare "normal" wages and living costs there!
Russian models usually perform the cheapest, US models the most expensive, but of course it all may vary individually.
Anyway, usually LP passes money invested into a scene directly into ticket prices, its the most fair model in the biz I know.


Btw, important is always also number of studs involved!

[leroisoleil83]

This topic has kinda gone off the rails, and as a guy who doesn't visit this site every day I apologize for replying late to the original post. Elsewhere there has been a discussion of ROI, and it definitely applies here, although in the talk of worth, cost, salary, etc. it hasn't actually been mentioned (or if it has, I missed it). However, it's up to each studio to decide how best to get that return. I could be entirely wrong, as I'm not a businessman, but if you charge a higher amount for a scene, wouldn't you assume less people are going to buy it? Vice-versa, if you charge less, wouldn't you think more people would give it a chance? So in the end, is there math to show that charging more gives a studio a higher ROI over time? And instead of waiting 2 years for a scene to go free, would it be tempting to anyone to wait 1 year for a scene to go half-price (or something similar)? That way the studio is still getting money, but the member (at least feels like) s/he is getting a deal.

(shrugs) Food for though. Take it or leave it.

[laura.]

There is some logic in that, I concur.

When I first joined as member instead of just bulk buying each month one of the incentives which I initially got very excited about was the access to free scenes, and the acrual of free tickets to exchange for (older) premium scenes. The novelty however soon wore off and I very rarely go retro ( the odd NRFTA scene aside)

In fact I have about 140 free tickets to use that are just sitting there gathering dust. For me I like to keep my fingers on what's current and what's new and care more about what's to come than content that's two years old and in many ways irrelevant. Do any other members feel this way also? Yes, there maybe nice to have for the odd occasion when you are gagging for something quick and easy to watch but for me these are few and far between.

I think a nicer gesture would be for members to use them in exchange for some of the older stockpiled scenes, some of which when released are nearly a year old.

Just my two penceworth x

[Giorgio Grandi]

Giorgio (why the 1.5 ticket difference)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31628/d ... _it_gio239 (DP, DAP, Gape)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31590/b ... low_gio222 (DP, DAP, Gape, Interracial)

Belle is more expensive model then Luna (also interracial scenes are paid more)
Black guys are more expensive then white boys
In the scene of Luna, there is only one performing coming from abroad (Luna), in the blackbuster scenes only Mike and Tony live in Prague, all the other are coming from abroad.

This is the reason why the price is different.

[dap-addict]

Looks a bit like locally based Belle Claire rates went out of proportions a bit last year.

Gonzo (why a 1.2 ticket difference)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31596/s ... _dp_sz1484 (1st DP on LP)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31576/s ... _dp_sz1476 (1st DP on LP)

Dont know the details here, but usually Russian/Ukrainian/Moldovan girls are less expensive than EU girls, especially those from high wage places like Germany, France or Britain. Most expensive are US girls. Also please consider travel/import costs vs. locally based.

[Bummer-Harris]

Calm the cock content down, this should help to push down the production costs.

[drevokocur66]

Giorgio (why the 1.5 ticket difference)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31628/d ... _it_gio239 (DP, DAP, Gape)
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31590/b ... low_gio222 (DP, DAP, Gape, Interracial)

Belle is more expensive model then Luna (also interracial scenes are paid more)
Black guys are more expensive then white boys
In the scene of Luna, there is only one performing coming from abroad (Luna), in the blackbuster scenes only Mike and Tony live in Prague, all the other are coming from abroad.

This is the reason why the price is different.

I am confused. You have mentioned this several times.

You pay the black guys more, or do you pay the girls more to fuck the black guys? Or both?