Czech models

[ilovewhite123]

Legalporno i love this site but where the czech models have gone, i want czech girls in all videos

[ilovewhite123]

Legalporno i love it but why czech models disappeared i want to see czech models in all videos since 2 months there are not czech models because czech girls are the best to fuck

[kidloco2]

I'm with you mate, I love them so much as well.

I think it's there is not enough of them who are up to LP anal/dap level. This year not very much new CZ models.

[drevokocur66]

Legalporno i love it but why czech models disappeared i want to see czech models in all videos since 2 months there are not czech models because czech girls are the best to fuck

This.

[hjohjole]

I was thinking the same thing. There has only been a handful of Czech babes debuting so far this year.

https://www.legalporno.com/model/3552/jenny_sky
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3655/amanda_hill
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3573/jessica_blue
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3546/venus_hills
https://www.legalporno.com/model/3658/nicolette_noir

And most of them are in their mid 20ies. There is usually at least one decent teen babe debuting every year. Im still waiting for that

[Kriss1986]

Legalporno i love this site but where the czech models have gone, i want czech girls in all videos

Lately there is deficit of them on the market, the reasons are complex...

[Pimp84]

is very easy: crossbar is very high with just DAP basically and TAP. impossible to fill everyday scenes with Cz models on that format

[Pimp84]

there are thousands of brand new face very cute and young actually in Cz ,but really cannot perform on DAP/TAP format

they prefer to shoot met art ,sex art and floating around soft core biz,than basically 90% of them cannot earn so much with soft, so some of them stop,

somebody turn on hard(but just a small % cause they think they are "model " (but they aren't model like modelling) so they dont accept to shoot "hard hard" ,somebody goes with others things.

but yes is shame actually in CZ are missing "huge name " ,missing the new " Mea Melone" ,the new "Billie Starr"

[Pimp84]

i posted here " reasons why "missing new CZ "



viewtopic.php?f=104&t=16163

[Kriss1986]

there are thousands of brand new face very cute and young actually in Cz ,but really cannot perform on DAP/TAP format

they prefer to shoot met art ,sex art and floating around soft core biz,than basically 90% of them cannot earn so much with soft, so some of them stop,

somebody turn on hard(but just a small % cause they think they are "model " (but they aren't model like modelling) so they dont accept to shoot "hard hard" ,somebody goes with others things.

but yes is shame actually in CZ are missing "huge name " ,missing the new " Mea Melone" ,the new "Billie Starr"

I suppose OP meant lack of new CZ girls in LP productions. As you said maybe on the market there are some nice newcomers but most of them will never perform HC on proper level...

[Giorgio Grandi]

There are no CZ girl, since 01/2017 to 08/2017 you can count probably 5/6 new performers who deserves attention, not more (and I mean between soft and hc models).

There are no models for 4 main reason:
- no one invest in scouting but just pretends agency fees for models they did not discovered but they just grabbed from different sources.
- payout in CZ and in general in Europe are too low for newcomers and Cz produces love to shoot what is cheap instead then what is pretty.
- impossible to handle a model on long term because of interference of other model agency (the reason why for example TWM does not scout anymore girls in CZ, its not worth)
- most of agency in CZ are usually a "one man company", no investment in branding, no cost to support, just few customers that are not looking for much more then anything is Breathing and cheap. A producer who cares of the future should book models only from who invest on scouting, otherwise the money he pays are just spent 100% in the personal interest of the agent instead that invest a big part in recruiting of brand new models

[Anotherfine]

Isn't Ria Sunn from Czechoslovakia , If so then that is more than enough

[kidloco2]

There are no CZ girl, since 01/2017 to 08/2017 you can count probably 5/6 new performers who deserves attention, not more (and I mean between soft and hc models).

There are no models for 4 main reason:
- no one invest in scouting but just pretends agency fees for models they did not discovered but they just grabbed from different sources.
- payout in CZ and in general in Europe are too low for newcomers and Cz produces love to shoot what is cheap instead then what is pretty.
- impossible to handle a model on long term because of interference of other model agency (the reason why for example TWM does not scout anymore girls in CZ, its not worth)
- most of agency in CZ are usually a "one man company", no investment in branding, no cost to support, just few customers that are not looking for much more then anything is Breathing and cheap. A producer who cares of the future should book models only from who invest on scouting, otherwise the money he pays are just spent 100% in the personal interest of the agent instead that invest a big part in recruiting of brand new models

Very very very well said (or sad?) Yes, it's sad too, but true.
The major thing that bugs me is the fact that there would be lot of Czech girls if actually
agencies and agents were working as they should. Im not here to put dirt on them, but I'm angry on most of them due to doing nothing for business and the models as well. It's a shame.
Perfect example are years 10-15 years back, when major hardcore productions started shooting hard gonzo stuff with Czech girls and models adjusted to this standard accordingly so lot of them were capable of doing anal or even DAP.
Apart from LP now mostly soft gg/bg stuff is being shot in Czech so why they would we willing to do anal/dap for LP every day? And then there is Mr. Woody hugely overpaying models too.

[pastaga]

Yes, it's sad.
Czech Rep gave us Belle Claire, Linda Sweet, Susan Ayn, the Dellai sisters, Sarah Kay, and more recently Rebecca Sharon or Tera Link...

[Kriss1986]

Isn't Ria Sunn from Czechoslovakia , If so then that is more than enough

There is no such thing like Czechoslovakia . We have two independant countries - Czech Republic and Slovakia .

[Kriss1986]

Yes, it's sad.
Czech Rep gave us Belle Claire, Linda Sweet, Susan Ayn, the Dellai sisters, Sarah Kay, and more recently Rebecca Sharon or Tera Link...

It's the country of beautiful women...

[Kriss1986]

There are no CZ girl, since 01/2017 to 08/2017 you can count probably 5/6 new performers who deserves attention, not more (and I mean between soft and hc models).

There are no models for 4 main reason:
- no one invest in scouting but just pretends agency fees for models they did not discovered but they just grabbed from different sources.
- payout in CZ and in general in Europe are too low for newcomers and Cz produces love to shoot what is cheap instead then what is pretty.
- impossible to handle a model on long term because of interference of other model agency (the reason why for example TWM does not scout anymore girls in CZ, its not worth)
- most of agency in CZ are usually a "one man company", no investment in branding, no cost to support, just few customers that are not looking for much more then anything is Breathing and cheap. A producer who cares of the future should book models only from who invest on scouting, otherwise the money he pays are just spent 100% in the personal interest of the agent instead that invest a big part in recruiting of brand new models

Thank you for detailed explanation Mr Gio.

[Anotherfine]

Isn't Ria Sunn from Czechoslovakia , If so then that is more than enough

There is no such thing like Czechoslovakia . We have two independent countries - Czech Republic and Slovakia .

I can only apologise and I was quite proud of being able to spell Czechoslovakia when I could have said Czech Republic, Which is what the girl in the Sauna said as well

So where do the vast majority of the models come from these days

[CanadianCouple]

Isn't Ria Sunn from Czechoslovakia , If so then that is more than enough

There is no such thing like Czechoslovakia . We have two independant countries - Czech Republic and Slovakia .

If she was born before 1993 (real age not porn fake ages)he wouldn't be completely wrong

[dap-addict]

LP managed to rise standarts to true hardcore and Czech girls offered what was needed till end 2016 about.
But agencies dont care anymore as GG said, its mainly non-professional stealing from each other.
Also what happened the once big main LP Czech girl supplier UM?

Its not true that all Czech girls emigrated to Britain to earn more at Tesco than doing porn. A lot of beautiful girls stayed, but somebody has to take care of them, channel them into true porn productions again as opposed to softcore and have nerves strong enough to put off with their moods. Russian girls are easier to handle, but far away.

[Pimp84]

Lack of CZ models ,and generally lack of HC models is not due only to agents/agencies and their bullshit and continuing stupid fight between them

but the main reason is due to productions and how is changing fast Eu porn biz.

Producers (but of course any of them will admit that) are trying to "standardize" model's rates ,pushing as lowest as possible rates to shoot.

This big idea,just taking care of the wallet ,is forcing models to accept lower and lower rates ,conseq. many of them (especially the cutest )

stop to shoot (of course) as they found others way to earn (very easy unfortunately during these days) , more remunerative and quicker,putting "porn " in a dark corner

With this problem any agencies or agents cannot do nothing ,of course,so who say models are missing due to agencies/agents is saying the truth just in a small %

Adding this to a extremely unprofessional way to work of the productions too ( you can imagine,there's actually one of the biggest production in the world

operating in Eu , hiring model on social media, putting "ADS" to book models as we are in the supermarket or in an open market screaming smt like " who can squirt"? or "teen can shoot

tomorrow "? killing completely the value of a model,no matter her names

So this way to act is just "killing the market" and this is starting of course from lack of models.Process is on long term fortunat. but if everybody is continuing in this way ,porn will be just

"amateur" like already happened in many Eu countries (italy is just 1 sad example). And there's a theory in USA ,that "serious producers" are taking already under their arms,to avoid that

will happening for real (there's already a line in one of the biggest US production is proving that "biz is risking to going in that way)

[ilovewhite123]

Legalporno i love it but please please stop doing gangbang videos with several persons because 90% of videos are like that.
I would love to see 1 vs 1 porn videos please do more 1 vs 1 videos !! Please 1 vs 1 videos forever

[kidloco2]

Unlike men girls naturally prefer the easiest way to achieve their goals and the way how Czech 'agencies' (read one person shows)
operate (i can't say they work because they don't) they make it all more complicated for the models so they end up being self promoted.

And when they can make almost the same money without any hassle by shooting easy soft porn, doing escort, social self-promoting, [spam] shit, gift wishlist, web cam or whatever, why they would do anal gonzo like LP?

When LP scenes will be paid much more like scenes in USA, they will do it. But them we will complain about the TKT price hike.

[dap-addict]

Lack of CZ models ,and generally lack of HC models is not due only to agents/agencies and their bullshit and continuing stupid fight between them but the main reason is due to productions and how is changing fast Eu porn biz.

Producers (but of course any of them will admit that) are trying to "standardize" model's rates ,pushing as lowest as possible rates to shoot.

Its such an easy excuse from the mooth of an agent living on % of rates. So the igher the rates the higher your income of course. Thus the switch to import high price US models to Prague instead of scouting Czech girls.
Sounds clear but doenst reflect the facts really the more as LP pays some of the highest rates in Europorn currently.

Rates have to be fair, thats the main point! Fair for the model and the producer. Agents have to invest into their models and work for them, not just hunt them on social networks - because this can be done by producers themselves. The more agencies are just one man enterprises listing just names and nice pics taken from social netweoks, the more producers do that job themselves and invest the agent fees saved that way into their next productions. And right so!

i posted here " reasons why "missing new CZ "
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=16163

Link doesnt work.

[Pimp84]

Are you a producer?

anyway don't wanna spend my time to reply something will be not understand,so i don't care.i just wrote how things really are going in the porn biz. If you're a fan ,you may have to
appreciate

what i sayed, is just the truth


About Europen porn biz( USA is anoher planet)


just ask yourself : 1) Why many cute models starts shooting and than disappears after few months(not only in CZ anyway, and this not only due to some productions specific.,is just how

Eu porn business is going,and is going in the wrong way


2) You can think what you want, highest rates actually are not payed in Prague (for Eu models) ,unfortunately


3) Agencies cannot invest nothing if producers are continuing to pay less and less, trying to cut every expenses

just taking care about the wallet

(we Arrived at the point that many Eu productions

are not happy to pay ticket/accomodation for a model ,telling is agency has to care about that ! ahahahaha biggest bullshit from Eu as is normal thing that if a

model is going to shoot,is going to shoot for the production,never for the agent/agencies. Is the production that will take money from the "final product" ,never

the agency. If you don't understand that, please go to inform yourself how " entertainment business is working in the right way for various artists in the world


(adult performers goes under "artist categories"


4) About Usa modes instead scouting CZ models,i just booked 2 models from Usa,and 1 is Veronica Avluv,probably one the top seller worldwide EVER in this business

so the production has just to be happy for that.And i'm pretty sure every agencies/agents in Europe are trying to do what they can.



5) There's luck of professionality even on agencies/agents side too,of course,i'm not saying that's not true

( Big agency actually are booking the models in Hu without telling them

for which productions are going to shoot ( other ridicolous point of Eu porn biz). in a shooting trip of 10 days,models are travelling abroad

without knowing nothing like a last minute trip ...: ridicolous

[dap-addict]

2) You can think what you want, highest rates actually are not payed in Prague (for Eu models) ,unfortunately


3) Agencies cannot invest nothing if producers are continuing to pay less and less, trying to cut every expenses

just taking care about the wallet

2) Highest rates are payed by PW and we all know whats happeing with most girls afterwards. If you wanna bash LP this is probabely the wrong thread, but I understand well what you wanna say.

3) True, but everybody is thinking about the wallet. As I pointed out rates and work offered have to be fair on all sides, model, agents/scouts and producers. If not local model biz has a really hard time as we have seen 10-12 years ago in Bp when studios started to import girls from Russia and Ukraine cause local rates were just exorbitant and local work ethics subpar. Same will happen in Prague, it actually does already.

I am just sad to see it happening as LP invested a lot to trim the Prague model market up to its needs and standarts and for years it worked fine. Now again we have a softcore backlash, and no, its not because LP is asking too much! It was always clear that a new girl can start with anal and just later advance to more demanding and thus well-payed DAP, TP etc. Only LP enemies lie about LP asking for the most demanding acts always and only.

[Pimp84]

2) You can think what you want, highest rates actually are not payed in Prague (for Eu models) ,unfortunately


3) Agencies cannot invest nothing if producers are continuing to pay less and less, trying to cut every expenses

just taking care about the wallet

2) Highest rates are payed by PW and we all know whats happeing with most girls afterwards. If you wanna bash LP this is probabely the wrong thread, but I understand well what you wanna say.

3) True, but everybody is thinking about the wallet. As I pointed out rates and work offered have to be fair on all sides, model, agents/scouts and producers. If not local model biz has a really hard time as we have seen 10-12 years ago in Bp when studios started to import girls from Russia and Ukraine cause local rates were just exorbitant and local work ethics subpar. Same will happen in Prague, it actually does already.

I am just sad to see it happening as LP invested a lot to trim the Prague model market up to its needs and standarts and for years it worked fine. Now again we have a softcore backlash, and no, its not because LP is asking too much! It was always clear that a new girl can start with anal and just later advance to more demanding and thus well-payed DAP, TP etc. Only LP enemies lie about LP asking for the most demanding acts always and only.

DAp-addict you didin't get my point

these are not words against LP ,you don't understand my message

Firstable is not PW paying highest rates in europe but other production,not in Hu of course

(i never booked a single woman to PW ,so don't worry about that,i know perfectly what's happening there

My words are just a message to explain how the adult business is going in Eu and changing so quickly.

Everybody needs to elevate the professionality,starting from models(last minute cancellation is a cancer actually in Europe)

Agents/agencies has to elevate too (already wrote about "booking shooting trip without giving any detailed informations about shootings and for whom (ridicolous behaviour but so common)

and producers,not trying just cutting the cost,reducing quality and than falled down asking " oh why there's no brand new cute high level models to shoot?due to agencies,ahhaha

( actually huge name from porn biz are able to take same money just going to a date on a dinner for 2hours, and taking same money to shoot a DP for some Eu productions

what would you choose if u were a model?

"Cutting the cost,cutting the quality" is a business law,and unfortuantely is paying over even to the adult business.

[dap-addict]

DAp-addict you didin't get my point
these are not words against LP ,you don't understand my message

I know you just try to explain the overall situation, thanks for that.
But you also claimed LP was asking for too demanding acts and thus had no Czech girls.
And that sounds just anti-LP bs, sounds like the PW lie that LP was shooting only DAP with rookies.

Problems you mentioned are all true in general.
But focusing on Prague and OP lack of Czech girls there are other factors to mention as UM's downfall a.o.

Its LP which trimmed a basically softcore destination up to demanding hc porn productions with lots of Czech (and Slovak) lead girls and than after 3 years Prague falling down to a much worse payed softcore destination for local girls again.
What went wrong here would also be a question to answer...

And asking for higher unsustainable fees isnt the solution!

[Pimp84]

If there's lack of Czech models everybody is involved,from UM downfall you "mentioned" before to every productions based in CZ,to the models too as many of them

are such unprofessional without any respect for agencies/productions work.

So everybody has to lift up the way to do porn and not only in CZ. Unfortunately the "political way" to do porn in Eu seems to be in the wrong direction.

There's only 1 man from France moved to US early, going "controtendence " and he's winning,even if his porn is quite boring

[peterparkerstar]

I'm not very active here, but I'm a little bit into the EU porn industry. I know that this tread was made mostly about lack of girls in CZ, but allow me to spend a word in a more general way.
From my point of view, the main problem is made by production s , which during the last few years continuously reduced their fees and most importantly they stopped paying trips and accommodation to girls coming from other countries.
Today the only way for a girl living in Europe but not in Prague or Budapest, is organizing sort of tours at her own expenses and risk, staying a couple of weeks in those cities hoping that some production s will book them once there..
And y ou think this is normal ?
y ou think that many girls are willing or able to do that?..
This way we will soon see on the screen only those girls who live in Prague and Budapest, always the same faces, plus some young girls coming from Russia, many of which don't even know what sex is..
I always wonder how men can be excited seeing these girls that until the day before had only sex with some local young boy probably drunk and with no erection and they find themselves surrounded by 4 - 5 big dick professional performer men and make a couple of scenes then run away back home.. but they are invited because they work for half price than the good and expert ones.. and all this is already happening.
So no surprise that we have such lack of girls.
And the big agency don't help at all..
I have a friend of mine, a girl performer who went to Budapest with a big agency which promised her she would be full booked for all the ten days she were staying (at her own costs of course).. She had to get there without even know one name of production going to shoot her.. The agency was only able to find her 3-4 simple shootings and made her paying for every thing ..
Productions and big agency has under table agreement to use the girls and taking advantage of them in any possible way.
I totally agree with Pimp84 also on the fact that for a pretty sexy girl it's much much more easy to get good money doing escort, rather than being treated this way and underpaid..
.. Good luck to European porn with such people managing the system..

[Pimp84]

Exactly Peterparker! that's what i wanted to say!

At the same time productions are trying to "standardize" rates in Europe,pushing lower and lower, so when they shoot a brand new russian,99,9% for small money

but unfortunately they don't find any professionality and than gonna complained about that! and than when there's such a professional "huge name" model available

complanining about " rates" screaming: it's too high,is crazy to ask that money?? ahahahha! blaming the agent/agency to pushed up rates!,or directly with her if she is booked by herself

that's really a great ridicolous circle in the Eu biz


If continuining like this ,everybody will go "amateur" and growing number of productions shooting bukkake is an easy example what i'm talking about)

Pay small money for "amateur" male performers (in many places guys even don't take a single cent) and just 1 "professional " adult performer,usually the female performer! to shoot

a completely "amateur" porn format

So now,not going too much into professional details, if you are really a fan of porn biz and wanna continuing to see cute girls shooting, you cannot ignore that!!!!

[Pimp84]

i have mail proving such a funny game in Eu producers are playing,but of course cannot show it

This "Big producer" based in Budapest (not PW) complained about VEronica Avluv rates when she made her 1st trip here in Europe,even i cannot believe that!

At that point i started to realized about how stupid and "nowhere " going Eu porn biz is going. If "Who have the power" is acting and managing porn shootings in that way

omg guys.And that's from Budapest is just one example of the stupid way to manage that

So is pointless and so stupid complaining agents/agencies job or model when "who's considered a huge and big production" acts like this ,trying to standardize rates to the low for everybody!

[Kriss1986]

Isn't Ria Sunn from Czechoslovakia , If so then that is more than enough

There is no such thing like Czechoslovakia . We have two independent countries - Czech Republic and Slovakia .

I can only apologise and I was quite proud of being able to spell Czechoslovakia when I could have said Czech Republic, Which is what the girl in the Sauna said as well

So where do the vast majority of the models come from these days

Don't be sorry, it was only some kind of trivia from my side . I agree Slavic languages can be truly pain in the ass .

[Kriss1986]

Isn't Ria Sunn from Czechoslovakia , If so then that is more than enough

There is no such thing like Czechoslovakia . We have two independant countries - Czech Republic and Slovakia .

If she was born before 1993 (real age not porn fake ages)he wouldn't be completely wrong

Sure, taking it into account he was right . 1st january 1993 is a former data when Czechoslovakia was divided into two countries.

[Kriss1986]

^ it should be "formal" instead "former" - simply typo, sorry.

[dap-addict]

This way we will soon see on the screen only those girls who live in Prague and Budapest, always the same faces,

Not paying porn job trips anymore is a mistake of course.

plus some young girls coming from Russia, many of which don't even know what sex is..
I always wonder how men can be excited seeing these girls that until the day before had only sex with some local young boy probably drunk and with no erection and they find themselves surrounded by 4 - 5 big dick professional performer men and make a couple of scenes then run away back home.. but they are invited because they work for half price than the good and expert ones.. and all this is already happening.

Just been waiting for this!
Why is it happeing?
Because like in Bp 10 years ago prices and fees went out of proportions!
And yes, of course a seasoned Mea Melone or Belle Claire performs better porn sex on set, but if they are unrelaible or over the top expensive, what happens than? Go figure! As I said prices need to be in balance and secure a win-win situation for all involved.

And than just generally about Russian girls performance: Some sure are less seasoned in private sex, but on porn set they show work ethics sadly very often missed with Czech and Magyar girls. Also Russian girls are able to learn fast!