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Postby dap-addict » Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:08 pm

hyapet wrote:
dap-addict wrote:While I agree here, my most recent info from sb involved in her Russian imports is that she is actually shooting local Brazilian girls.
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No doubt something is happening, but it never seems to come into a substantial "next step" where we can see that something is indeed cooking.

Remember when the whole NRX and Erika Korti Studios shutdown thing happened? Remember after a short while - Erika Korti released a trailer that included like six or seven or eight previews of upcoming scenes - along with the message - "We are back!" And how everyone got really excited?

That was a bona-fide A+++, S-Tier move. That got anticipation running high - and let everyone know something special was coming. When it finally hit - there was no doubt a lot of sales that no doubt occurred that wouldn't have otherwise because of that trailer release.

Again I very much agree here.
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Postby isis666xxx » Sun Oct 05, 2025 10:40 am

rakdobi wrote:after you've already set it up in Russia, have to leave for Romania because of the denunciations of colleagues to the authorities


i think erika was very probably going to get caught sooner or later

if making porn is illegal in russia i think she was gonna get caught sooner or later

your porn gets tons of views and you get a lot of money from porn and u think the goverment is not gonna caught you sooner or later????

i think her studio was gonna get raided sooner or later

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Postby isis666xxx » Sun Oct 05, 2025 10:47 am

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Postby Jimbo8012395 » Tue Oct 07, 2025 2:54 pm

dap-addict wrote:It's a strange situation, but as hungry and thirsty we are we endure it. And still hope! :mad: :confused:


I'm not sure I care all that much what happens to EKS anymore tbh. It's nearly 3 months since EKS has released something and if I was a betting man, I'm not sure they'll release anything again.

I just hope Giorgio/Andrew or someone else finds a way to film Russian girls like Kathy Layne. We've never seen her do DAP so someone please step up and film this!!!

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby rakdobi » Tue Oct 07, 2025 6:46 pm

isis666xxx wrote:
rakdobi wrote:after you've already set it up in Russia, have to leave for Romania because of the denunciations of colleagues to the authorities


i think erika was very probably going to get caught sooner or later

if making porn is illegal in russia i think she was gonna get caught sooner or later

your porn gets tons of views and you get a lot of money from porn and u think the goverment is not gonna caught you sooner or later????

i think her studio was gonna get raided sooner or later

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Do me a favor, it doesn't matter how big you are, it's how much share of the profits you give to make them look the other way. That's how it works.

There are very few "actors" who can eat the cake. You just have to give a significant chunk to keep eating.

When you want to destroy your biggest competitor and have your cake and eat it alone, you do dirty things, that's what one who calls himself "Nick" did.

I wonder how much longer he can hold his own in Dubai. As far as I know, the money is starting to run out

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Postby hyapet » Tue Oct 07, 2025 8:45 pm

rakdobi wrote:Do me a favor, it doesn't matter how big you are, it's how much share of the profits you give to make them look the other way. That's how it works.[/quote

Typically, yes. When things are just going as they normally go, and people just "assume" you're doing your job.

The minute there is actual pressure from the higher-ups, or somebody like Putin (I know not necessarily Putin himself, but someone in his chain of command) says something like, "We've got to get these guys," or, "We need to stop the people from making our country look disgusting on the Internet," it's at that exact moment that you could have ten million in a briefcase for them and it wouldn't matter anymore.

It's either your ass in jail or their career is over (at the very best, if not much, much, much worse).

So, that works up until a point and under certain circumstances, but there comes times, especially in authoritarian regimes, where money doesn't open doors anymore.

rakdobi wrote:There are very few "actors" who can eat the cake. You just have to give a significant chunk to keep eating.

When you want to destroy your biggest competitor and have your cake and eat it alone, you do dirty things, that's what one who calls himself "Nick" did.

I wonder how much longer he can hold his own in Dubai. As far as I know, the money is starting to run out


I've either heard someone here, or yourself, say almost the exact same words ... like six months ago.

He himself said something along the lines of, "I need to start things going again, time to go back and see what's happening," like six months ago as well ... and since then ... nothing.

My guess? He found private contractors who had him shoot and produce their own (private) porn with their own (private models) for their own (private) collections in Dubai. When somebody heard him say that he was looking to get working again - and they have, literally, one of the best pornographers to have ever existed living right there, something tells me, as crazy as this may sound, that in literally one of the richest places on Earth where some of the hottest women travel to in order to get around said money, somebody approached him with an absolutely staggering fee to become their private pornographer (provided with any and all the equipment, tools, and help he would ever want).

Like ... hard to imagine that not just happening naturally anyways.

Either way - he went from saying that he was looking to get back into the business and start things up again - to never having said anything ever again afterwards. Take from that what you will.

But it's giving me serious traffic-reports-from-South-America vibes.

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Postby hyapet » Tue Oct 07, 2025 8:48 pm

rakdobi wrote:Do me a favor, it doesn't matter how big you are, it's how much share of the profits you give to make them look the other way. That's how it works.


Typically, yes. When things are just going as they normally go, and people just "assume" you're doing your job.

The minute there is actual pressure from the higher-ups, or somebody like Putin (I know not necessarily Putin himself, but someone in his chain of command) says something like, "We've got to get these guys," or, "We need to stop the people from making our country look disgusting on the Internet," it's at that exact moment that you could have ten million in a briefcase for them and it wouldn't matter anymore.

It's either your ass in jail or their career is over (at the very best, if not much, much, much worse).

So, that works up until a point and under certain circumstances, but there comes times, especially in authoritarian regimes, where money doesn't open doors anymore.

rakdobi wrote:There are very few "actors" who can eat the cake. You just have to give a significant chunk to keep eating.

When you want to destroy your biggest competitor and have your cake and eat it alone, you do dirty things, that's what one who calls himself "Nick" did.

I wonder how much longer he can hold his own in Dubai. As far as I know, the money is starting to run out


I've either heard someone here, or yourself, say almost the exact same words ... like six months ago.

He himself said something along the lines of, "I need to start things going again, time to go back and see what's happening," like six months ago as well ... and since then ... nothing.

My guess? He found private contractors who had him shoot and produce their own (private) porn with their own (private models) for their own (private) collections in Dubai. When somebody heard him say that he was looking to get working again - and they have, literally, one of the best pornographers to have ever existed living right there, something tells me, as crazy as this may sound, that in literally one of the richest places on Earth where some of the hottest women travel to in order to get around said money, somebody approached him with an absolutely staggering fee to become their private pornographer (provided with any and all the equipment, tools, and help he would ever want).

Like ... hard to imagine that not just happening naturally anyways.

Either way - he went from saying that he was looking to get back into the business and start things up again - to never having said anything ever again afterwards. Take from that what you will.

But it's giving me serious traffic-reports-from-South-America vibes.

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Postby Jimbo8012395 » Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:06 pm

rakdobi wrote: Do me a favor, it doesn't matter how big you are, it's how much share of the profits you give to make them look the other way. That's how it works.

There are very few "actors" who can eat the cake. You just have to give a significant chunk to keep eating.

When you want to destroy your biggest competitor and have your cake and eat it alone, you do dirty things, that's what one who calls himself "Nick" did.

I wonder how much longer he can hold his own in Dubai. As far as I know, the money is starting to run out


We agree on something Rakdobi.

I felt Whitehard to be a fairly mediocre pornographer who excelled on finding pretty girls who were largely ill-suited to a career in pornography (Sofa Weber etc). Most of his scenes lacked any level of excitement or chemistry. The girls looked like they were there entirely for the money. The piss lilo was really fucking weird and he'd have strange priorities e.g. film a girl doing an anal, but often not DP but DVP or DAP. He'd also often dress up the girls in onesies or other clothes that looked deliberately young. It was really fucking off putting.

Andrew X and especially Giorgio are in a different league as pornographers. Even Erika's better than him.

Then there are rumours of him being a bit of an arse and I can't say that I'm that bothered he's not producing that much anymore.

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Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:34 pm

Jimbo8012395 wrote:He'd also often dress up the girls in onesies or other clothes that looked deliberately young. It was really fucking off putting.


Funny because this was a common complaint about EKS and how bizarre the makeup, hairstyle and dressing choices by Erika team were. Also onesies are appropriated by the "party" culture, the more eyebrow raising are the school uniforms.
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Postby Jimbo8012395 » Wed Oct 08, 2025 12:59 am

ArcanaCaelestia wrote:
Jimbo8012395 wrote:He'd also often dress up the girls in onesies or other clothes that looked deliberately young. It was really fucking off putting.


Funny because this was a common complaint about EKS and how bizarre the makeup, hairstyle and dressing choices by Erika team were. Also onesies are appropriated by the "party" culture, the more eyebrow raising are the school uniforms.


I agree completely. It used to frustrate me when someone as gorgeous as Kathy Layne wasn't dressed in something like a matching lace bra, thong and suspender set with heels. Missed opportunity.

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Postby hyapet » Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:12 am

Jimbo8012395 wrote:I felt Whitehard to be a fairly mediocre pornographer who excelled on finding pretty girls who were largely ill-suited to a career in pornography (Sofa Weber etc). Most of his scenes lacked any level of excitement or chemistry. The girls looked like they were there entirely for the money. The piss lilo was really fucking weird and he'd have strange priorities e.g. film a girl doing an anal, but often not DP but DVP or DAP. He'd also often dress up the girls in onesies or other clothes that looked deliberately young. It was really fucking off putting.

Andrew X and especially Giorgio are in a different league as pornographers. Even Erika's better than him.

Then there are rumours of him being a bit of an arse and I can't say that I'm that bothered he's not producing that much anymore.


Not everyone is a fan of seeing 45 year tattoo'd women with gigantic plastic tits take their two-hundred and thirtieth gangbang.

The aesthetic - the costumes - the talent - it was all coordinated to a degree not really seen before and since. The premise was simple ...

Get a super young and fresh looking girl (i.e: Lina Shisuta, Eva Barbie, Elis Benson) - dress them up as much of a loli as possible - and then throw them to a gang of gigantically hung, super thick, (increasingly) black cocks.

The fact that I could put it in one sentence just showcases the pure brilliance of it. And the shoots were great, too. The camera got in there, but you never got the feeling that there was a camera man in the room. Nothing ever felt "by the numbers" like so many of the Giorgio or EKS or likewise European porn theater productions would. It always felt raw.

The girl always looked like she was somewhat in over her head - which is welcome relief from seeing yet another pencil thin, tattoo'd, plastic tit, 1.5/10 face gunko whore grinning at the camera as if stuffing another cock in her skull would somehow beat back the mental illness she's clearly enjoying. The girl's looked and had innocence - and in the hands of Nick - and his camera work - the scenes were raw and vicious, yes, but they were also intimate.

There's a reason all the other studios say shit like, "Man, we really gotta watch what we do, because we might not be able to pay the bills anymore soon ..." and there's a reason Nick decided to go to fucking Dubai of all places to wait until the temperature came down.

They were in different leagues. Of all the discussions of what porn is - and what it should be - and all the wasted air I see spent here - Nick just went out and realized what a gigantic majority of the market actually wanted. And then he took it to the next level. It was so ... refreshing ... seeing someone who just fucking did it right.

Where there being piss didn't matter - because the energy was still so high. Where the girls actually got fucking naked in the scenes. Unlike the other studios, there was none of this watching them bumble or clown around in fucking high-heels or keep their entire costume on for the whole set because (realistically) nobody wants to see what's underneath it, giving the impression that that's what they're used to anyway, as it makes it easier to just go in through the front door of the 7-11 afterwards and pick up a pack of smokes.

A fucking studio who translated the vast majority's dirtiest and darkest fantasies - and then pulled off all the highest level accomplishments by maxing out every single one of those desires in the most over-the-top way possible (fucking professional.)

Yeah, Nick might not have been the nicest guy. I can't argue against or for that. I don't know. Seems to be a lot of people agree that he was. Okay.

But it's like when the biggest goal scorer on your team is a bit of a prick. You don't really give a shit. You just happy he pumping those goals.

All the bitching and bringing it up after they're gone to a different team is just a sad (but understandable) cope in dealing with what was lost.

Erika didn't come anywhere near what Nick did afterwards. Neither did Natasha Teen (but she came fucking close). Still, to this day, Nick's work looks like it's a generation ahead of everything that's coming out now. People tried to lift his style and they couldn't. The weight was too much for their talents. They buckled and under-delivered. Which is understandable when you're going up against a master like Nick was.

I'm sorry - I've seen ... multiple dozens of thousands of hours of porn up until this point. Outside of a few Japanese directors that got supremely lucky on a shoot - and the very best of the best of Giorgio's works - nobody even comes close to matching what Nick did.

And this isn't me being a gigantic fan - even though I am - but just talking realistically with what he achieved with what he had done. Did the girls have a large part to do with it? Sure. They were unbelievably beautiful. But ... everything the shoots were - they matched that beauty - and were worthy of having those girls in those scenes. It was the ultimate package.

You think this entire site going right into the shitter after his studio closed down might have given you a clue as to how momentous his works really were.

Mediocre?

Mind linking me to something that's come out in the past month that comes anywhere close to what Nick could do? 'Cause, from what I can see, at the very best ...

You get a good looking girl going into a room to have sex with a black dude. The end. That's it. It's like watching someone hire a prostitute. That's pretty much every fucking scene these days - even (increasingly, and sadly) from some of the South American studios.

Like, c'mon, Jimbo.

Don't glug the 45 and thick, bazooka tits, and high heel kool-aid too quickly there, Champ.

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Postby bidibo » Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:54 pm

Nick's scene was excellent : Perfect image, perfect light and very good staging. Girls was young, pretty and ready to be fucked very hard i anal and DAPed by a large range a guys including a good BCC Teams (better than EKS's)
Scenes with Sasha Paige, Eva barbie (3 hours by exemple) is one of the best scene i never watched.

Off course GIO/AH scenes are more hard and pretty similar in quality

EKS in Russia had a very great girl casting, maybe better than Nick but quality was lower (always this blured image)

But today what that remain of porn we like... Almost nothing
Always the same reload, cheap studios or the same actresses in the same scene again and again. Scenes that's deserve to be bought are very low. Before i said "What i should to buy" between one or more dozen of good scenes every month. It's currently close de zero now.
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Postby Jimbo8012395 » Thu Oct 09, 2025 12:30 am

hyapet wrote: Mind linking me to something that's come out in the past month that comes anywhere close to what Nick could do? 'Cause, from what I can see, at the very best ...

You get a good looking girl going into a room to have sex with a black dude. The end. That's it. It's like watching someone hire a prostitute. That's pretty much every fucking scene these days - even (increasingly, and sadly) from some of the South American studios.

Like, c'mon, Jimbo.

Don't glug the 45 and thick, bazooka tits, and high heel kool-aid too quickly there, Champ.


The new Indy Lix scene (Video Blog Wet) kicks the shit out of anything NRK/Nick Whitehard ever did in his life. It's not even close. Might be the best thing Andrew X has done since Giorgio retired.

Now one could convincingly argue that some of the girls NRK got were a fair bit more attractive than Indy Lix and I wouldn't argue at all. Barcelona in particular was fucking gorgeous, but she was a fucking shocking performer.

If you gave me the choice of watching an attractive, girl next door 7.5/10 girl like Indy Lix who can perform get fucked versus a stunner who's a 9/10 but is a shit porn performer like Barcelona, I know who I'm going to pick and it isn't Barcelona.

NRK was very guilty of getting some beautiful girls who just couldn't perform and looked like they were in pain or wanted to anywhere but there. That's just not sexy. Obviously all porn stars are there to get paid, but I'd prefer to see someone actually have a good time like Indy Lix. NRK's scenes were also incredibly monotonous, even more so than when Giorgio got jaded. Giorgio up till 2020 was an immeasurably better porn director.

I do get your point about all the tattooed girls with fake tits though. It's why I've barely bought any scenes in the last 3 years. In fact, the only scenes I've bought this year contain Indy Lix and Kathy Layne. I think that says a lot tbh. The talent just isn't there especially after COVID, the Russia Ukraine war and of course sites like Onlyf*ans.

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Postby bake0213 » Thu Oct 09, 2025 1:04 am

hyapet wrote:
Not everyone is a fan of seeing 45 year tattoo'd women with gigantic plastic tits take their two-hundred and thirtieth gangbang.



The most vocal posters remaining on this forum want the exact scene over and over again. It doesn't matter what she/they look like. I liked both NRX AND EKS compared to what we have now.

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Postby hyapet » Thu Oct 09, 2025 7:47 am

Jimbo8012395 wrote:The new Indy Lix scene (Video Blog Wet) kicks the shit out of anything NRK/Nick Whitehard ever did in his life. It's not even close. Might be the best thing Andrew X has done since Giorgio retired.

Now one could convincingly argue that some of the girls NRK got were a fair bit more attractive than Indy Lix and I wouldn't argue at all. Barcelona in particular was fucking gorgeous, but she was a fucking shocking performer.

If you gave me the choice of watching an attractive, girl next door 7.5/10 girl like Indy Lix who can perform get fucked versus a stunner who's a 9/10 but is a shit porn performer like Barcelona, I know who I'm going to pick and it isn't Barcelona.

NRK was very guilty of getting some beautiful girls who just couldn't perform and looked like they were in pain or wanted to anywhere but there. That's just not sexy. Obviously all porn stars are there to get paid, but I'd prefer to see someone actually have a good time like Indy Lix. NRK's scenes were also incredibly monotonous, even more so than when Giorgio got jaded. Giorgio up till 2020 was an immeasurably better porn director.

I do get your point about all the tattooed girls with fake tits though. It's why I've barely bought any scenes in the last 3 years. In fact, the only scenes I've bought this year contain Indy Lix and Kathy Layne. I think that says a lot tbh. The talent just isn't there especially after COVID, the Russia Ukraine war and of course sites like Onlyf*ans.


I haven't seen the Indy Lix scene, and quite honestly, have zero desire to.

To no fault of the girl - she's a 6/10 in my books. But even that's generous. Sure, that may be down to "the girls just being hotter" - but I also feel it's down to "the girl not having shot +80 scenes before."

Everyone that goes through Andrew's studio is a retread of someone that was there in Giorgio's time. It seems that Andrew has zero appetite in actually finding a new actress, which, to be fair, is most likely understandable. With the market being absolutely shut down for all the reasons you stated at the end, anybody who's 7/10 or higher going to OF, and the available talent probably hoping to do anything but break every rung of the ladder in the equivalent of three scenes, we're probably never going to see anybody new ever enter Andrew's studio - like - ever.

The fact that somebody picked up the mantel of what Giorgio did at all is amazing. And while it's incredible to see girl's like Baby Kxtten get another BBC DAP - it's essentially the same tired scene that's been shot, literally, 6,000 times before.

Nick did new things like introduce a bit of a story - a musical intro - a theme - and changed the pacing of the scene from very slow movement at the beginning to increased energy and drive as it went on. I'm not typically a fan of story in porn, and Nick by no means hit it out of the park, but where it came to "describing a feeling," in that, the mood that was set, nobody did it better. Sasha Paige and Sofa Weber playing with skateboards and giggling before getting BBC DAP'd by the biggest cocks in the industry? A highlight of all time.

With Andrew, as with Giorgio, and this is understandable, because his job was specifically to pick up that mantel, the thing that occurs is that the girl is there, she undresses, and then gets surrounded by cocks, and gets banged. And it's like ... yawn ... the 6,000 times I've seen a similar movie to this before has somewhat dulled the blade's edge in this case.

And, while this is absolutely a personal taste thing, as in, neither of us is wrong and neither of us is right, I still prefer seeing young teenage girl's who just can't handle the cock getting in way over their heads and getting banged relentlessly by the biggest cocks in the industry, rather than ... some thirty-something, completely tatted, cock-hungry whore who's like, "More! More! More!" It's just like ... the dynamic is lost ... the contrast disappears.

Typically, it's the man who's supposed to be dominant, and the woman is supposed to be submissive. That contrast, more than the gender dynamic, is what creates tension and passion and brings you into the scene. These scenes where a girl is being rammed with three cocks and is cracking jokes at the screen or winking at everybody is just ... so ... lifeless. It's like watching somebody going through an aerobics class. It's like everybody's having a contest to see who can be the biggest man - and it's the girl who's winning.

Going back to the Baby Kxtten casting with Andrew, I mean ... couldn't he have come up with an interesting story? And actually got everybody to create a dynamic within the scene that has her being overpowered? He could have told her to put a sock in her usual "I only have ten cocks right now? Where's the other twenty?" attitude she usually brings to every set, and actually act like her purpose wasn't to suck down cocks like they were the last bubbles of oxygen on a sunken submarine. The story, the dynamic, could have reintroduced every ladder break in a meaningful way - culminating in the ultimate - a BBC TAP.

But nah - just another scene - with some improved camera work and a different way of glugging or shooting piss out of her rectum like a fountain. Like, don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but ... we've been down this road before. Six thousand times already.

As unfair as it would be to expect Andrew to single-handedly revive or remake the entire way porn is shot - the carrying of Giorgio's torch, while absolutely the best way to build the talents needed to go where he wants to go in the future, should make way at some point for his own vision, or a new one, should he have one.

You're right - Kathy Lynne not getting the BBC DAP treatment is one of the biggest missed opportunities in porn in a long, long, long time. But, don't worry, we'll have Victoria Devine back at Andrew's studio in a few month's time for an absolute hose-down with urine, so ...

That's that, I guess.

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Postby Jaxkbnm » Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:36 am

hyapet wrote:
Jimbo8012395 wrote:I felt Whitehard to be a fairly mediocre pornographer who excelled on finding pretty girls who were largely ill-suited to a career in pornography (Sofa Weber etc). Most of his scenes lacked any level of excitement or chemistry. The girls looked like they were there entirely for the money. The piss lilo was really fucking weird and he'd have strange priorities e.g. film a girl doing an anal, but often not DP but DVP or DAP. He'd also often dress up the girls in onesies or other clothes that looked deliberately young. It was really fucking off putting.

Andrew X and especially Giorgio are in a different league as pornographers. Even Erika's better than him.

Then there are rumours of him being a bit of an arse and I can't say that I'm that bothered he's not producing that much anymore.


Not everyone is a fan of seeing 45 year tattoo'd women with gigantic plastic tits take their two-hundred and thirtieth gangbang.

The aesthetic - the costumes - the talent - it was all coordinated to a degree not really seen before and since. The premise was simple ...

Get a super young and fresh looking girl (i.e: Lina Shisuta, Eva Barbie, Elis Benson) - dress them up as much of a loli as possible - and then throw them to a gang of gigantically hung, super thick, (increasingly) black cocks.

The fact that I could put it in one sentence just showcases the pure brilliance of it. And the shoots were great, too. The camera got in there, but you never got the feeling that there was a camera man in the room. Nothing ever felt "by the numbers" like so many of the Giorgio or EKS or likewise European porn theater productions would. It always felt raw.

The girl always looked like she was somewhat in over her head - which is welcome relief from seeing yet another pencil thin, tattoo'd, plastic tit, 1.5/10 face gunko whore grinning at the camera as if stuffing another cock in her skull would somehow beat back the mental illness she's clearly enjoying. The girl's looked and had innocence - and in the hands of Nick - and his camera work - the scenes were raw and vicious, yes, but they were also intimate.

There's a reason all the other studios say shit like, "Man, we really gotta watch what we do, because we might not be able to pay the bills anymore soon ..." and there's a reason Nick decided to go to fucking Dubai of all places to wait until the temperature came down.

They were in different leagues. Of all the discussions of what porn is - and what it should be - and all the wasted air I see spent here - Nick just went out and realized what a gigantic majority of the market actually wanted. And then he took it to the next level. It was so ... refreshing ... seeing someone who just fucking did it right.

Where there being piss didn't matter - because the energy was still so high. Where the girls actually got fucking naked in the scenes. Unlike the other studios, there was none of this watching them bumble or clown around in fucking high-heels or keep their entire costume on for the whole set because (realistically) nobody wants to see what's underneath it, giving the impression that that's what they're used to anyway, as it makes it easier to just go in through the front door of the 7-11 afterwards and pick up a pack of smokes.

A fucking studio who translated the vast majority's dirtiest and darkest fantasies - and then pulled off all the highest level accomplishments by maxing out every single one of those desires in the most over-the-top way possible (fucking professional.)

Yeah, Nick might not have been the nicest guy. I can't argue against or for that. I don't know. Seems to be a lot of people agree that he was. Okay.

But it's like when the biggest goal scorer on your team is a bit of a prick. You don't really give a shit. You just happy he pumping those goals.

All the bitching and bringing it up after they're gone to a different team is just a sad (but understandable) cope in dealing with what was lost.

Erika didn't come anywhere near what Nick did afterwards. Neither did Natasha Teen (but she came fucking close). Still, to this day, Nick's work looks like it's a generation ahead of everything that's coming out now. People tried to lift his style and they couldn't. The weight was too much for their talents. They buckled and under-delivered. Which is understandable when you're going up against a master like Nick was.

I'm sorry - I've seen ... multiple dozens of thousands of hours of porn up until this point. Outside of a few Japanese directors that got supremely lucky on a shoot - and the very best of the best of Giorgio's works - nobody even comes close to matching what Nick did.

And this isn't me being a gigantic fan - even though I am - but just talking realistically with what he achieved with what he had done. Did the girls have a large part to do with it? Sure. They were unbelievably beautiful. But ... everything the shoots were - they matched that beauty - and were worthy of having those girls in those scenes. It was the ultimate package.

You think this entire site going right into the shitter after his studio closed down might have given you a clue as to how momentous his works really were.

Mediocre?

Mind linking me to something that's come out in the past month that comes anywhere close to what Nick could do? 'Cause, from what I can see, at the very best ...

You get a good looking girl going into a room to have sex with a black dude. The end. That's it. It's like watching someone hire a prostitute. That's pretty much every fucking scene these days - even (increasingly, and sadly) from some of the South American studios.

Like, c'mon, Jimbo.

Don't glug the 45 and thick, bazooka tits, and high heel kool-aid too quickly there, Champ.



There are a number of reasons this site was going into shit which has been talked about here especially to you. But the thing is Nick wasnt a great producer he just had a great talent pool/scouts to pick from.In Porn you can make a vast amount of money just by having a great looking girls only. I remember giorgio said it here. I just need a good looking girl to sell alot forget the guys. Im paraphrasing but he cont'd with yes you need adequate guys to fuck but he emphasized by just having a good looking girl alone can make you alot of money even if the male talent is bad. Nick was smart to capitalize on young teenage girls for guys here to fap too.The Popular selling porn here doesnt mean its actually good porn. Popular selling porn is just whats most selling at the moment. It doesnt mean its good quality porn. Back in 2023 Nrx ruled the site because of great talent pool/scouting alone which no one could touch because Nick was getting russia's best looking russian teenage girls. No other studio could compete expect Natasha for talent pool but quality of scene always went to Giorgio, Gonzo,Mambo, Yummy, Erika and even AGO to a extent. Nick whole business model was hottest inexperienced young teenage girl getting fucked. It wasnt about making a great porn. Nick used a cinematic bs intro with music to hook you then its a normal shiity russian scene with no chemistry with actors and cold actresss. I will say to be fair russians actress are usually cold but still Nick wasnt great at his job. It was always easy to tell minus his gimmicks he hid behind. Theres wasnt any advance things he did with the camera. You are just a hyped up fanboy that only likes young hot white russian teens tbh. You vehemently stated this is too many times here.

Nick's golden goose was young hot white teenage russian girls thats it. The main thing in porn is if you have the hottest girls you will always make a shit ton of money. Guys brought nicks scene to live vicariously through the studs just to expierence in thier own head what its like fuckng said girls. Nick wasnt a pro he was a hack that had a insanely beautiful talent pool. But you know what nick wasnt the first or last person to know this. I find it funny you shit on Giorgio but he was the one that helped Nick horn in on his camera technique/style to produce Nrx reign in 2023. Giorgio used to film in St Petersberg back in the day if you forgot. If Giorgio had access to nicks talent pool he would have reigned for longer on here.

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Postby rakdobi » Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:41 pm

NRX - Pretty girls, good costumes, natural makeup, but the scenes themselves? Boring, lacking in intensity. It was only towards the end that the level started to rise, especially in the 2-3 hours versions - All this gangbang was getting tired of watching it.

Henry fab, by contrast, is on a different level. Both in the cinematography, and in the construction of the scene, the scenes themselves, tough and deadly, genius at its best. I tried several times to get him to come back, to produce more scenes for his studio, but without success

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby Jimbo8012395 » Fri Oct 10, 2025 4:12 pm

Jaxkbnm wrote:Nick whole business model was hottest inexperienced young teenage girl getting fucked. It wasnt about making a great porn. Nick used a cinematic bs intro with music to hook you then its a normal shiity russian scene with no chemistry with actors and cold actresss. I will say to be fair russians actress are usually cold but still Nick wasnt great at his job. It was always easy to tell minus his gimmicks he hid behind. Theres wasnt any advance things he did with the camera.


I agree with Jaxkbnm and Rakdobi was/is a mediocre pornographer who hid behind gimmicks and casting. His scenes were incredibly montonous and souless.

The girls he scouted were very pretty, but most of them looked bored shitless and only did hardcore pornography for the money. Most of them were poor performers who couldn't wait for the scene to end and it bled into everything. I don't want to see girls uncomfortable or in pain. It's stupid and it kills their longevity in the business.

As I've said before, I like porn girls to look like they want to be there and that they're enjoying themselves, even if their motivation is the money. The gold standard of porn scenes in the last 15-16 years is Gangland 72 scene with Jasmine/Ivenka/Verunka. A gorgeous girl who obviously liked anal, DP & DAP. https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/id=2ff0 ... 22ac60b7d4

Nothing Nick has done has ever come close to this scene.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby rakdobi » Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:55 pm

Jimbo8012395 wrote:
Jaxkbnm wrote:Nick whole business model was hottest inexperienced young teenage girl getting fucked. It wasnt about making a great porn. Nick used a cinematic bs intro with music to hook you then its a normal shiity russian scene with no chemistry with actors and cold actresss. I will say to be fair russians actress are usually cold but still Nick wasnt great at his job. It was always easy to tell minus his gimmicks he hid behind. Theres wasnt any advance things he did with the camera.


I agree with Jaxkbnm and Rakdobi was/is a mediocre pornographer who hid behind gimmicks and casting. His scenes were incredibly montonous and souless.

The girls he scouted were very pretty, but most of them looked bored shitless and only did hardcore pornography for the money. Most of them were poor performers who couldn't wait for the scene to end and it bled into everything. I don't want to see girls uncomfortable or in pain. It's stupid and it kills their longevity in the business.

As I've said before, I like porn girls to look like they want to be there and that they're enjoying themselves, even if their motivation is the money. The gold standard of porn scenes in the last 15-16 years is Gangland 72 scene with Jasmine/Ivenka/Verunka. A gorgeous girl who obviously liked anal, DP & DAP. https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/id=2ff0 ... 22ac60b7d4

Nothing Nick has done has ever come close to this scene.


90% of the time the problem isn't the girl, it's the guys or the director

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby Jimbo8012395 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 1:15 am

rakdobi wrote: 90% of the time the problem isn't the girl, it's the guys or the director


I think it's both tbh. Sofa Weber in particular shouldn't have been anywhere near DAP, TAP gangbangs. It's just not for her and it's painfully obvious. No director could fix her obvious discomfort.

She's a beautiful woman, but I've no interest in seeing her perform on any level whatsoever.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby hyapet » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:59 am

Jaxkbnm wrote:There are a number of reasons this site was going into shit which has been talked about here especially to you.


To me?

Fuck you.

Jaxkbnm wrote:But the thing is Nick wasnt a great producer he just had a great talent pool/scouts to pick from.In Porn you can make a vast amount of money just by having a great looking girls only. I remember giorgio said it here. I just need a good looking girl to sell alot forget the guys.


This is what happens with your typical mid-wit. They think they're smart, but the minute they say anything over a sentence long, everything starts running into and contradicting each other. Let's take this apart piece by piece.

Nick wasn't a great producer - it was all the girls. In fact, forget the studs. They don't matter either. Just that ...

All the studs that Nick used were effectively tried to be snapped up by all the other studios, including Erika Korti Studios, in an effort to replicate what Nick had done. So, if the studs didn't matter, then ... why was everyone chasing after the guys that Nick had ensembled?

Jaxkbnm wrote:Im paraphrasing but he cont'd with yes you need adequate guys to fuck but he emphasized by just having a good looking girl alone can make you alot of money even if the male talent is bad. Nick was smart to capitalize on young teenage girls for guys here to fap too.The Popular selling porn here doesnt mean its actually good porn. Popular selling porn is just whats most selling at the moment. It doesnt mean its good quality porn. Back in 2023 Nrx ruled the site because of great talent pool/scouting alone which no one could touch because Nick was getting russia's best looking russian teenage girls. No other studio could compete expect Natasha for talent pool but quality of scene always went to Giorgio, Gonzo,Mambo, Yummy, Erika and even AGO to a extent. Nick whole business model was hottest inexperienced young teenage girl getting fucked. It wasnt about making a great porn. Nick used a cinematic bs intro with music to hook you then its a normal shiity russian scene with no chemistry with actors and cold actresss. I will say to be fair russians actress are usually cold but still Nick wasnt great at his job. It was always easy to tell minus his gimmicks he hid behind. Theres wasnt any advance things he did with the camera. You are just a hyped up fanboy that only likes young hot white russian teens tbh. You vehemently stated this is too many times here.


I liked the actresses, no doubt. But you seem ready to diminish everything else Nick had done right because of the fact that ... the actresses he found were beautiful? That ... doesn't make any sense. The actresses being good doesn't diminish everything else he made and did - and the idea that, oh, everybody who bought the porn was just interested in the actresses, and actually everything else was terrible is a baseless accusation. How baseless is it? Well, you just say it and then leave it at that. When it comes to providing an argument for something - providing zero arguments for something doesn't make it right.

Others here have already mentioned how good both his camera work and lighting were. To the extent that, when he was being shut down, some of his last scenes had lighting so precise and naturally blending, creating the most naturally warm but still visible tones, creating the perfect seamlessness between ample peachy and bright creamy white that I wouldn't be surprised if folks from Hollywood would be taking notes.

His camera work crafted seamless motion streams, especially in his intros, that had sexual suggestions baked right into the movement. His slow curved slide ins from down low, his angled "just slightly looking up" at the girls takes, his slow-motion action shots, his close-ups on emotion, they were all made to evocate a dream sequence. He was literally pulling you into a fantasy. Sorry, but Giorgio holding a camera like a camcorder and saying greasy, porno director things to the girl while she stands still awkwardly for three minutes doesn't hold a fucking candle to that. And if you think it does - that's because you are, as you've displayed, an absolute mid-wit.

The sets and the scenes likewise held the perfect blend between space and color. The set never felt too ostensibly large, but it never felt cramped. In fact, it didn't feel like a place at all, allowing it to simultaneously melt into nothingness in your mind (which a good set should always do - the focus should always be on the girl) - and provide the perfect backdrop to shift the focus onto the girl herself. The sets, and the ways in which they were constructed, only got increasingly better as time went on. Early NRX was still figuring it out, but by the end he had established a benchmark that not only could nobody else replicate, but everybody else's product felt so much weaker in comparison. EKS, despite trying to copy him directly in everything, felt like you were in the backrooms of a greasy Eastern European apartment. And, well, that's not Erika's fault per se, she was working with what she had, but the contrast between what she and Nick had achieved was so great, you could feel the haunting of Nick's shadow in every scene that Erika shot. The only person who came somewhat close to the set-ups were Natasha Teen and Oscar from Mambo, but even then, with Oscar he has so many stairs in his set, and it's like ... it just makes things feel cramped. But, by far, the sets of later-day NRX have never been even come close to by another porn producer since.

Then there was the wardrobe. Fuck me - who could've guessed that people liked watching young hot girls be dressed like ... young hot girls? Not the other producers - because Nick was, literally, the only one who brought a lolita/18-year-old vibe to his productions. Guess the tastes had moved on from the more, "Let's make them look like prostitutes," era that defined many of the productions with, admittedly, not as attractive talent that the other studios were producing. But, rather than diminishing the role the clothing had to play due to the beauty of the talent wearing it, it should absolutely be noted that the costumes accentuating such beauty and helping create the very vibe that the actresses exploited and explored in turn highlighted their beauty, which is, ironically, why we consider the girls from those sets to be the absolute top tier that they were. Those girls have appeared in many other productions since - but seemingly haven't attracted the same fan-base that loved everything they did when Nick was in charge. The clothing, absolutely, which also helped dictate the vibe, had something to do with that. And that's another win in Nick's column as far as I'm concerned.

And finally - the studs. Some of the most well hung - energetic - over-the-top and visceral performers I've ever seen in porn. Coming together and providing a cohesive, singular unit of energy. Typically always getting their placing just right - and dictating the energy of the set so that the girl was following them. You might enjoy the girl running the show in the porn scenes you watch, because it sounds like you're an absolute fucking cuck, but trust me, for actual dudes, the idea is that we're fucking the girl. Not that she's fucking us. There's a traditional masculine/feminine energy that equates in many ways to dominance/submissiveness - and Nick got it right. The guys were leading the charge. Which probably innately offends your weak-willed, beta-minded, please-whip-me-harder-Daddy mentality = but for actual dudes - this is the porn they wanted. Not for the girl to be having a chuckle and leading the guys around the scene - but for the girl to be getting the fucking of her life. You know - what porn used to be. And what porn is supposed to be - for people that actually want to live the fantasy of fucking the girl. And not pissing on her like some absolute feeb.

There, a full on explanation that delves deeply into why your entire opinion (which can be summarized as nothing more than saying that Nick was mediocre without having anything to actually back it up) is complete and utter fucking bullshit.

What else backs up this opinion? The sales. The fucking sales. Like, holy shit. I guess everybody that was purchasing the scenes from NRX, and who then likewise went and purchased other scenes for the site, was just supporting the absolute worst of the bunch, huh? The fact that when NRX closed - and every other studio on this site experienced a ripple effect where they almost had to close down - just a complete coincidence, right?

That even when EKS came back, and brought back some of the models, and the studs, and tried to replicate everything else (but couldn't), that the money just didn't come flowing back in through the front door, right? That she had to essentially close her doors - and everyone else is barely keeping theirs open, if they haven't already closed since. Just a real big fucking coincidence, right?

Jaxkbnm wrote:Nick's golden goose was young hot white teenage russian girls thats it. The main thing in porn is if you have the hottest girls you will always make a shit ton of money. Guys brought nicks scene to live vicariously through the studs just to expierence in thier own head what its like fuckng said girls. Nick wasnt a pro he was a hack that had a insanely beautiful talent pool. But you know what nick wasnt the first or last person to know this.


I believe there's been studios since that have likewise shot just as beautiful, if not more so beautiful girls, on at least a one-to-one basis, if not overall for the entire portfolio. But, those scenes don't seem to sell as well. If it merely came down to the girls themselves, as you seem to suggest, then these other scenes should have done just as well, or even better. If, as you insist throughout your diagnosis, the girls drove the whole thing, then why don't these other sites do just as well when they release a really top looking girl (however once in a blue moon it is), and instead often struggle to stay open?

Maybe it's because Nick, through all the other criteria I mentioned prior, established a mood and a feeling with his works that transcended the individual facets of said productions. That all of these different elements, no matter how well planned and pulled off individually, came through even better when coordinated and mixed with one another. Creating not only an actual brand - but a verifiably defined experience that essentially lifted off from where and what porn used to be, and took it into something entirely different overall.

Jaxkbnm wrote:I find it funny you shit on Giorgio but he was the one that helped Nick horn in on his camera technique/style to produce Nrx reign in 2023. Giorgio used to film in St Petersberg back in the day if you forgot. If Giorgio had access to nicks talent pool he would have reigned for longer on here.


I don't know if you've noticed this - but the style from the later day NRX productions changed significantly from the early day productions. It's like Nick started out at the very beginning, and then, once he learned how everything worked, over the course of a year plus of work, he started to then create and define his own style.

Sure, Giorgio gave him a good start. But Nick is what took that to the next level. If you cannot see that - if you cannot see the sales numbers and figures - if you cannot see that the lucrative nature of the contracts is what drove the girls to NRX's doors in the first place - and that that was only possible because he was making such good money - and that that was only possible because he developed such a next-level style and technique which were then infused into his product - then, I really cannot help you.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby hyapet » Sat Oct 11, 2025 6:23 am

Jimbo8012395 wrote:I agree with Jaxkbnm and Rakdobi was/is a mediocre pornographer who hid behind gimmicks and casting. His scenes were incredibly montonous and souless.


I already dealt with this in the previous reply - go read that to find out how wrong you are.

Jimbo8012395 wrote:The girls he scouted were very pretty, but most of them looked bored shitless and only did hardcore pornography for the money. Most of them were poor performers who couldn't wait for the scene to end and it bled into everything. I don't want to see girls uncomfortable or in pain. It's stupid and it kills their longevity in the business.

As I've said before, I like porn girls to look like they want to be there and that they're enjoying themselves, even if their motivation is the money. The gold standard of porn scenes in the last 15-16 years is Gangland 72 scene with Jasmine/Ivenka/Verunka. A gorgeous girl who obviously liked anal, DP & DAP. https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/id=2ff0 ... 22ac60b7d4

Nothing Nick has done has ever come close to this scene.


Yeah, that's a cute opinion, but it means absolutely fuck-all. And not because I disagree with it. But because of the numbers.

It seemed an overwhelming number of people loved buying Nick's stuff. So much so that, when everything got shut down on the fly, he went to the most expensive place on the planet to live. And has been there ever since, even without making an additional scene ever since.

What about everyone else? What about everyone that loves the porn that you do? They pretty much had two months of survivability when they were getting the left-over ticket sales from NRX baked into them - and once that was gone - everyone was talking about closing their doors. Little surprise that Giorgio quit around that time - he didn't want his legacy to be that nobody was buying his product anymore and that he had become a has-been. Not that he did - there were other circumstances - but Giorgio, the tried and true and tested hand - the actual leader of the entire enterprise of what "Legalporno" really was - whatever identity "Analvids" still had left - had pretty much given up the crown to NRX at that point. And that wasn't what Giorgio himself said - but what he didn't have to. The sales numbers spoke louder than any words ever could.

So - once NRX was gone - yes, the Russian talent was gone, sure - but at the same time, the new-age style, attitude, and energy had gone as well. What Giorgio was to traditional porn when he first took up the mantel of shooting - is what Nick was to Giorgio. And I'm not saying this because I dislike Giorgio, or think that his works are subpar. By all means and reasons - we wouldn't be having this discussion if Giorgio hadn't done what Giorgio ended up doing. But even with that being the case - things age.

And not just Giorgio, but his style as well. The days of a girl showing up to a studio and standing around awkwardly for the first three minutes had overstayed their welcome, and not because it was inherently bad, but because we had already seen it four fucking thousand times up until that point.

You know what else had aged? The feminist-infused I'm-in-charge-of-this-shoot sociopath who's telling the five guys where to put their cocks, burping out a piss-bubble, and then jockeying around to make room for the third cock in her ass. These actresses that were "enjoying the shoots" turned the whole fucking thing into a parody. There's a reason the best scenes Giorgio ever shot were of Nikki Hill. Not just because of the beauty, but because she was at the beck and call of the men in the scene.

I think Anne De Ville is really hot. Three times so for Baby Kxtten. But I can barely watch these girls do a scene without just feeling like ... yawn. When they're gobbling cocks and are all like, "More! More! More!" It's like - they're acting like the men act. In fact, they're acting more manly the actual fucking men in the scene. And that doesn't turn me on. Maybe for handful of feeb cuck-wits that visit this forum - that does it for them - but, as someone else pointed out a good while back ...

The people here don't know what the fuck is actual good porn. They like pissing, and puking, and putting people's feet in other people's asses, and they'd probably be the first people in line if there was a scene where a girl was eating a turd, but ...

These scenes don't fucking sell well.

When you're handing out like $1,000 to an actress for a shoot - and there's like maybe another $1,500 in expenses during that time - and you can't make that back on sales? Like ... I dunno what to tell you man, but the legions of porn buyers out there aren't drinking what kool-aid you're cooking up in the kitchen.

So, no. As far as the sales are talking - people liked it when young and fresh girls were made to look cute and feminine and had an actual group of men who acted like ... wait for it ... actual fucking men come and fuck them. Mind-blowing, I know.

You can return to telling me how the one studio that kept the rest of the site alive, the site that is still lost somewhere in a time-warp from a wrong-turn off the highway in 2017, because that one studio had such megalithic sales, was in fact completely subpar and mediocre. And then you can tell me how a bunch of girls that act like men and spend the majority of the set-time glugging urine and puking up their lunch is the way of the future, when the base costs of just over barely a few thousand dollars can barely be met by the sales.

Fuck me.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby Ethan Paxton » Sat Oct 11, 2025 8:31 am

hyapet wrote:
Jimbo8012395 wrote:I agree with Jaxkbnm and Rakdobi was/is a mediocre pornographer who hid behind gimmicks and casting. His scenes were incredibly montonous and souless.


I already dealt with this in the previous reply - go read that to find out how wrong you are.

Jimbo8012395 wrote:The girls he scouted were very pretty, but most of them looked bored shitless and only did hardcore pornography for the money. Most of them were poor performers who couldn't wait for the scene to end and it bled into everything. I don't want to see girls uncomfortable or in pain. It's stupid and it kills their longevity in the business.

As I've said before, I like porn girls to look like they want to be there and that they're enjoying themselves, even if their motivation is the money. The gold standard of porn scenes in the last 15-16 years is Gangland 72 scene with Jasmine/Ivenka/Verunka. A gorgeous girl who obviously liked anal, DP & DAP. https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/id=2ff0 ... 22ac60b7d4

Nothing Nick has done has ever come close to this scene.



The people here don't know what the fuck is actual good porn. They like pissing, and puking, and putting people's feet in other people's asses, and they'd probably be the first people in line if there was a scene where a girl was eating a turd, but ...

These scenes don't fucking sell well.


Fuck me.


Puke absolutely sells. There is almost a perfect correlation to the quantity and extreme nature of the puke to sales. I have hardly any scenes, followers or brand awareness and I have some of the top selling scenes on the entire scene recent weeks. I haven't really been able to quantify piss very accurately, given it isn't as rare of a fetish it also isn't surprising it doesn't make as much of an impact, again the extreme nature and quantity are important.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby kumarsankar098 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 8:41 am

Any update on whether there will be new videos and where ? Sorry, the discussion seemed to have deviated, and I havent read anything else.

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Postby jjwhite1985 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 10:37 am

Oh look, hyapet is back with another insane autistic meltdown because he can't distinguish between his personal tastes and objective facts.

Seriously check out his post history, he's a world class fucking fruitloop.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby Jimbo8012395 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 3:28 pm

hyapet wrote: You know what else had aged? The feminist-infused I'm-in-charge-of-this-shoot sociopath who's telling the five guys where to put their cocks, burping out a piss-bubble, and then jockeying around to make room for the third cock in her ass. These actresses that were "enjoying the shoots" turned the whole fucking thing into a parody. There's a reason the best scenes Giorgio ever shot were of Nikki Hill. Not just because of the beauty, but because she was at the beck and call of the men in the scene.[/i]


This is just nonsense, especially about Nikki Hill. You're letting your preferences about which girls you like, cloud your judgement. She couldn't even deepthroat properly. I've had multiple girlfriends who could suck dick miles better than her.

Stunning girl, so so performer who looked like she was in pain/uncomfortable half the time.

Girls don't have to be in your face loud, but they have to look like they're enjoying themselves and do sex acts properly without looking like it's a painful experience all the time. People who get off on watching a girl being in pain all the time are in fact sociopathic and not the "feminist infused I'm-in-charge" types as you call them.

As for NRK, I didn't like his style. I didn't like that he picked girls who looked in pain or girls who dodged cum or girls who couldn't deepthroat properly. I don't like seeing girls not cut out for hardcore gangbangs thrown in at the deep end. It's just not sexy and that's my last word on the subject.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby jjwhite1985 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:45 pm

I'm like you Jimbo, I liked NRX, they were fine, others were better.

But it's weird how his hard-on for NRX caused him to just make stuff up about how they "saved the site" with their "incredible sales", and how all the sales numbers and figures back him up. I mean, dude, you realize you can literally check this for yourself??

In 2020, NRX had 0 scenes in the top 50 best sellers. 2021 it had 13 in the top 50, 2022 it had 7 in the top 50, 2023 it had 10 in the top 50 (including one 99% discounted), 2024 it had 0 in the top 50. The majority is populated by the usual suspects, GIO, NTP, Gonzo, AGO in recent years. And that's with all the "non-LP" studios and the TS stuff filtered out, so the real figures can only be worse.

Dude is ranting about a reality he's invented and then shit-talking anyone who disagrees. Like I said, fruitloop.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby hyapet » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:44 pm

kumarsankar098 wrote:Any update on whether there will be new videos and where ? Sorry, the discussion seemed to have deviated, and I havent read anything else.


No word from Erika. Don't expect any any time soon, either. She's supposedly shooting a bunch of scenes - but releases zero details to the public. Like, she shoots themed scenes (with regards to holidays and stuff like that), but then never releases them. Which (probably) means that she's working for a private contractor in South America who's making their own porn collection - and is paying her what she needs to start up her own studio - or just well enough for her to forget about making a public studio that sells porn altogether.

Which, when you think about it, makes sense. Pornographers who make scenes for Internet consumption don't seem to fare that well in South America. All of the major studios have either shifted, closed down, rebranded, or redistributed their resources in the last half a year to a year. Erika of course moved there in the midst of this gigantic shut down. So ...

I really don't know. But, from all things being what they are, and seeing as Erika knows how to play the game (she released a trailer before for the reopening of EKS in Eastern Europe), there's probably some actual meaning behind her staying silent. Either way, don't hold your breath.

jjwhite1985 wrote:Oh look, hyapet is back with another insane autistic meltdown because he can't distinguish between his personal tastes and objective facts.

Seriously check out his post history, he's a world class fucking fruitloop.


Except ... I actually listed the merits of the shooting and production styles that not only did Nick employ, but pretty much created.

You know what they say about people who've lost the argument, right?

They attack the person.

Come back when you actually have something to say - rather than just ignoring all the absolutely solid observations and clear cut examples the other person laid out. I'd say that you're better than this, jay-jay, but ... obviously not.

Jimbo8012395 wrote:This is just nonsense, especially about Nikki Hill. You're letting your preferences about which girls you like, cloud your judgement. She couldn't even deepthroat properly. I've had multiple girlfriends who could suck dick miles better than her.


Well - if I could feel her tongue on my cock when I was watching the scene - I'd say you have a point, but ...

When I'm watching the girl gobble cock, what the fuck am I supposed to say? "I'm not feeling this blow-job?"

Like, what the fuck?

Jimbo8012395 wrote:Stunning girl, so so performer who looked like she was in pain/uncomfortable half the time.

Girls don't have to be in your face loud, but they have to look like they're enjoying themselves and do sex acts properly without looking like it's a painful experience all the time. People who get off on watching a girl being in pain all the time are in fact sociopathic and not the "feminist infused I'm-in-charge" types as you call them.


Not being in control does not equate to being in pain. You conflating the two says far more about your outlook than it does mine, I'm afraid.

And yeah - I don't enjoy watching a girl jump on five cocks like she's trying out for the Olympics. The same girls who are over-eager to go on an all-day cock-shopping spree are the same ones who usually tattoo themselves up from toe to nose, tan themselves a disgusting shade of orange, and scrunch their scrappy, thinning (really, disappearing) hair (probably due to the drugs they're taking) up in a scrunchy little ball behind their heads like a 50 year old Haus Frau. It's phony. It lacks intimacy. And it's the same kind of people who enjoy this kind of performative spectacle that think lining up with their five friends to get sucked off by the same prostitute on the weekend, only to blow their load a minute and a half into it, is the definition of a "good time."

Your conflating men actually acting like men and taking charge of the scene with "women being in pain" is really the by-product of an era that is (thankfully) getting flushed out of mainstream culture (albeit slowly). The super masculine girl-boss who walks into a room with twenty dicks and can't keep herself from trying to fit six in her mouth at the same time. It's not feminine. I don't know about you - but I don't watch porn to see girls try and act like men. But, for people such as yourself, it seems to just be the natural order of things.

Which probably explains the obscene amounts of male bunghole shots and girls licking said bungholes that have been infused in the majority of porn on this site. I guess this is your paradise, with the only way of improving it in your eyes is if they actually just got rid of the girl altogether. And, to be fair, at this point in the clown show, it'd be pretty fucking hard to notice anyways.

Jimbo8012395 wrote:As for NRK, I didn't like his style. I didn't like that he picked girls who looked in pain or girls who dodged cum or girls who couldn't deepthroat properly. I don't like seeing girls not cut out for hardcore gangbangs thrown in at the deep end. It's just not sexy and that's my last word on the subject.


Well, believe it or not, there isn't a lot of 18 to 19 year old girls who are professionals at porn. Believe it or not, people have to start out somewhere. If these actresses stuck around until they were 30 years old, I'm sure many of them would be able to handle these things a lot better. But, that's just the thing.

I don't want to see 45 year old "professionals" get brought in after their latest tummy tuck and breast tightening to ride the cock carousel so hard you think the thing is going to come off the foundation. Watching a girl who is new in porn - and isn't used to handling a huge amount of men - is actually the draw of porn. To see a girl get overwhelmed. Overwhelmed does not mean in pain, it means that she has lost control in the situation. And the loss of control, within a fantasy setting, is the heightening of the traditional roles women and men used to have in the bedroom.

Not of the girl spanking the man in a gimp suit and telling him to cook her her dinner, but the man actually properly fucking the girl, and making her lose control. See how that works?

Probably not. She hasn't even pissed on his face yet, right?

jjwhite1985 wrote:I'm like you Jimbo, I liked NRX, they were fine, others were better.


I'm already winning.

First they were "mediocre" and "sub-par." Now they're "fine." Eventually, after you keep stumbling over enough common sense, you'll be saying the words "good." Then, with a bit more ramming of that gigantic log of truth down your throat, you'll come around to, "great." And then when I find an ass-ugly dominatrix in a leather suit that's laying a turd on a waffle who calls NRX "fantastic," you'll be right behind her. And not only that, you'll be agreeing with her too.

jjwhite1985 wrote:But it's weird how his hard-on for NRX caused him to just make stuff up about how they "saved the site" with their "incredible sales", and how all the sales numbers and figures back him up. I mean, dude, you realize you can literally check this for yourself??

In 2020, NRX had 0 scenes in the top 50 best sellers.


Sure, not a lot of studios win that kind of acclaim in their first year.

Right
?

jjwhite1985 wrote:2021 it had 13 in the top 50, 2022 it had 7 in the top 50, 2023 it had 10 in the top 50 (including one 99% discounted), 2024 it had 0 in the top 50.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me get this straight ...

A single studio, on a site with literally dozens, if not hundreds of other studios, grabs, on average, ONE FIFTH of the top 50 spots across a three year period ... and you somehow think that this is reflective of a ... poor performance?

Are you a fucking Retard?

jjwhite1985 wrote:Dude is ranting about a reality he's invented and then shit-talking anyone who disagrees. Like I said, fruitloop.


Yeah, this statement, like any of your others, would actually mean something if it actually dealt with any of the logic locked behind it. But it's ignored. Because you're dumb.

I guess NRX and EKS closing must have had nothing to do with the rest of the site hitting the skids right afterwards. I mean, why would it? NRX completely controlled all the Russian girls that would have otherwise gone into Eastern and Western Europe from going during that same time frame, just that ... NRX didn't do that.

So, while NRX was paying a fee to Russian girls that would go far beyond what they would find in, ironically, Europe itself, Nick was paying this because ... he wasn't making money. And then afterwards, between the choice of going to the rest of the European studios that still existed at that moment, or staying at home alone with a webcam, most, if not all of the former NRX models decided to ... stay at home with the webcam.

Probably because the brand that Nick had built for them - in how he showcased their beauty - and made them appear to be truly desirable - was only going to get downgraded if they went to the other studios. Perfect case in point was Nicole Murkovski.

So, the studio which grabbed, single-handedly, one out of every five top 50 spots, who naturally attracted girls the other studios couldn't, and who had one of the (very) few productions that released titles that actually looked and felt different ... had no direct impact on the surrounding environment when it just suddenly disappeared. Despite the other studios having had more than an ample opportunity to reach out to the talent (male or female) and try to acquire the "only things that made Nick's productions any good" (according to you). Just that - they didn't really want anything to do with the traditional porn houses.

Of which, they started shutting down immediately after NRX left anyways.

So, yeah.

Whatever you do, Jay-Jay, don't address any of this.

Just call me names and then call it a day.

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Re: Is EKS ditching Pornbox?!?

Postby jjwhite1985 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 6:42 pm

NRX scenes sold far less than the other top studios. You've spent your time ranting that it was the opposite. You're a clown.

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Postby rakdobi » Sat Oct 11, 2025 7:08 pm

I see similarities between nrx and mamboperv - Pretty girls, great costumes, good, professional makeup, boring scenes on the edge of falling asleep.

Only the 2-3 hour series (nrx) beach series (mamboperv) You can enjoy watching them, all the other scenes are boring, lacking in intensity, there's no way I can finish 10 minutes of watching this thing.

A director's instructions and his vision, and the people he employs, is what makes the scenes interesting

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Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Sat Oct 11, 2025 10:20 pm

jjwhite1985 wrote:NRX scenes sold far less than the other top studios. You've spent your time ranting that it was the opposite. You're a clown.


And the evidence of such claim is? Even the ever broken pornbox site after video removals for reevaluation, rebrands to analvids/pissvids has many nrx scenes as best sellers. I remember vividly that Sasha Paige scenes dominated site up until the closure of the studio.
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Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Sat Oct 11, 2025 10:34 pm

ArcanaCaelestia wrote:
jjwhite1985 wrote:NRX scenes sold far less than the other top studios. You've spent your time ranting that it was the opposite. You're a clown.


And the evidence of such claim is? Even the ever broken pornbox site after video removals for reevaluation, rebrands to analvids/pissvids has many nrx scenes as best sellers. I remember vividly that Sasha Paige scenes dominated site up until the closure of the studio.


To elaborate further Sasha Paige was in best selling 1st, 3rd and 9th group scene of the year 2023. Sofa Weber was in 1st, 3rd, 7th, 9th, 10th.
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Postby jjwhite1985 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:27 am

ArcanaCaelestia wrote:
jjwhite1985 wrote:NRX scenes sold far less than the other top studios. You've spent your time ranting that it was the opposite. You're a clown.


And the evidence of such claim is? Even the ever broken pornbox site after video removals for reevaluation, rebrands to analvids/pissvids has many nrx scenes as best sellers. I remember vividly that Sasha Paige scenes dominated site up until the closure of the studio.

The evidence is the lists of best selling scenes :rolleyes:

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jjwhite1985 wrote:
ArcanaCaelestia wrote:
jjwhite1985 wrote:NRX scenes sold far less than the other top studios. You've spent your time ranting that it was the opposite. You're a clown.


And the evidence of such claim is? Even the ever broken pornbox site after video removals for reevaluation, rebrands to analvids/pissvids has many nrx scenes as best sellers. I remember vividly that Sasha Paige scenes dominated site up until the closure of the studio.

The evidence is the lists of best selling scenes :rolleyes:


The best sellers show fuck knows what and it doesn't indicate when the purchase was made. Badges are more reliable.
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Postby Ethan Paxton » Sun Oct 12, 2025 2:48 am

Anyone know if the best sellers feature on pornbox includes pissvids/analvids or are those accounted for separately (like is the pornbox best sellers ONLY a pornbox sales leaderboard or overall LP leaderboard including all 3) ? Because I just realized that almost all of my videos have been excluded from pissvids and analvids up until now :(

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Postby jjwhite1985 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:08 am

The badges tally up with the best seller lists (at least they do on my pornbox). The five group scenes you mentioned are included in the ten scenes they had in the top 50 for that year. Seems plenty of solo and duo scenes out-sold those group scenes.

Quibble over it if you like, but it's beside the point, all this is in response to the dumb shit he keeps repeating about how the "sales numbers" somehow prove that NRX was so much more popular than GIO/Gonzo/whatever. Simply because he isn't a fan of their style, or the girls, and can't accept that his opinion is just his opinion and nothing more.

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Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Sun Oct 12, 2025 10:52 am

jjwhite1985 wrote:The badges tally up with the best seller lists (at least they do on my pornbox). The five group scenes you mentioned are included in the ten scenes they had in the top 50 for that year. Seems plenty of solo and duo scenes out-sold those group scenes.

Quibble over it if you like, but it's beside the point, all this is in response to the dumb shit he keeps repeating about how the "sales numbers" somehow prove that NRX was so much more popular than GIO/Gonzo/whatever. Simply because he isn't a fan of their style, or the girls, and can't accept that his opinion is just his opinion and nothing more.


I don't think badges tally up because 2023 xmas scene that is listed as the best seller has zero badges. This could be explained by the fact that the scene was released at the end of the year so many purchases were in 2024 and later. And badges are assigned at the end of month/year. If you factor scene removals, broken site, price changes, etc. the best seller list at pornbox is very unreliable. Regardless of this, saying that NRX sold FAR LESS in its heyday is just arguing in a bad faith.
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Postby jjwhite1985 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 11:17 am

Less, far less, whatever. Like I said quibble over what you like, clearly there is no data to show NRX massively out-sold the other too studios and kept the site alive, which is what this was in response to.

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Postby maxymax » Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:02 am

Finally we get to hear from EKS....

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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 11:28 am

They should communicate milestones with time frames, not the typical marketing bullshit "you are important... bla bla bla..."

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