Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 24, 2025 4:19 am

Btw, TheVulture, about my ambivalence from Alexa Throats model tread about some non-DAP footage: ;)
dap-addict wrote:That hot! :cool:
Image But can we allow it to Alexa Throat to immerse into a fake humiliation themed porn script?
Is she not young enough to feel empowered by the safe word given? :confused:

Todays scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/3626301


Btw, on a margin let me add I asked about 5 porn girls about those AGO shootings in my more recent LP Porn Girl Interviews and had 2-3 girls I personally know and support doing an actress job there. All but one said it @ AGO studio all on-set content was all extremely well communicated and agreed upon before and behind the scene in advance.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:11 pm

dap-addict wrote:If posters run out of ideas they always attack me by my avatar name. :mad:


It's got nothing to do with your avatar name. You love DAP and that's fine. I like DAP too. It's your ambivalence towards the tone of porn and the attitude of the male directors and studs towards the girls that I'm drawing attention to.

dap-addict wrote:Anyway, TheVulture, I am still glad you are back here!


I'm not really back in any meaningful sense. I'm done with porn unless it undergoes a total reboot without any male physical domination and misogyny, which seems about as likely as Donald Trump embracing Marxism.

dap-addict wrote:Lets put this row about mental health of porn girls away and first join forces to find a way to help Vitoria Beatriz daughter! Would this be an acceptable way to you?


Without meaning any disrespect to anyone involved in this tragedy, none of us owe anything to anyone here beyond extending our sympathies and establishing if anything can be learned from the episode. I don't do liberal hand-wringing but I do know that if any porn girl has suffered mental harm because of her on-screen treatment then it had nothing to do with my demands as a consumer. Needless to say, I wish all of her friends and relatives well, as trite and meaningless as that obviously sounds.

Will you withdraw your criticism of her sister and the notion that she might be partaking of "all too easy criticism of porn"?
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:18 pm

dap-addict wrote:Is she not young enough to feel empowered by the safe word given? :confused:


You bring this up all the time. For me, no. I would think there is likely to be an unspoken rule amongst the male producers and studs that if a girl uses her "safe" word then you just don't hire her again as she's too high maintenance for the brave new world of male porn thuggery.

The girls probably understand this as well and would be unlikely to use it short of genuinely thinking that they might be about to die. Not using it likely just becomes part of the endurance test and a way to prove that they're serious about making it in the industry.

I can't prove any of that but I only need to watch any modern porn scene to know that if there is such a safe word, the bar for its use is set exceptionally high.
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:21 pm

Anyway, this thread has just become yet another exercise in you showing your extensive working as to how no no no, everything that goes in modern porn is fine and the girls are entirely safe. That in a thread that started out specifically discussing the mental health of porn girls and even took in discussion of an actual suicide. Well done.
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:29 pm

TheVulture wrote:Will you withdraw your criticism of her sister and the notion that she might be partaking of "all too easy criticism of porn"?

Do you think I should?
I honestly dont know because I read only half a post by Vitoria Beatriz sister. And while I understand she might have felt way hurt Vitoria did the porn she did - which is not my porn at all - I still got the feeling she didnt support her sisters career choice as such. For me it read still like porn bashing and like not accepting siblings choices.
It's always difficult in such discussions with family members because of strong emotional links they often have. Family support or the lack of is a key issue for many especially Latina porn girls. I sort of cannot support lacking family support coupled with anti-porn stances to be honest.

I add a quote from my recent Indy Lix interview digging deep between lines:
dap-addict wrote:Q14: Did your family and friends accept your career choice?
INDY LIX: Of my family, my husband knows and he loves it. I have a couple friends that know, and they like to tease me about it which I think means they accept it. I'm still new, so I imagine this answer will need an update in a year or two.

Here: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=94700
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:00 pm

TheVulture wrote:Anyway, this thread has just become yet another exercise in you showing your extensive working as to how no no no, everything that goes in modern porn is fine and the girls are entirely safe. That in a thread that started out specifically discussing the mental health of porn girls and even took in discussion of an actual suicide. Well done.

Its you who started to link modern porn with mental health issues, not me!
Fact is girls were never entirely safe in any kind of entertainment industry not only porn. And in porn also 1985 to 2010, btw.

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dap-addict wrote:Is she not young enough to feel empowered by the safe word given? :confused:
(...) Not using it likely just becomes part of the endurance test and a way to prove that they're serious about making it in the industry.

I can't prove any of that but I only need to watch any modern porn scene to know that if there is such a safe word, the bar for its use is set exceptionally high.

I had a girl being torn in a 1on1 anal the other day, it was a classical porn scene, shot in the 2010-way as you would say. I was very concerned, I still am, but the girl while really shocked, ofc she used her safe word, but way too late and discussing situation with me she even attacked the director but at the same time defended the actor. Why do I tell you about? Because it shows indeed how difficult it is with safe words, need to earn money, maybe also lust overrunning reason on set etc. What I wanna tell you is I can prove certain things, but here in such a forum discussion it's sure not the place to do it.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:10 pm

TheVulture wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Lets put this row about mental health of porn girls away and first join forces to find a way to help Vitoria Beatriz daughter! Would this be an acceptable way to you?


Without meaning any disrespect to anyone involved in this tragedy, none of us owe anything to anyone here beyond extending our sympathies and establishing if anything can be learned from the episode. I don't do liberal hand-wringing but I do know that IF any porn girl has suffered mental harm because of her on-screen treatment then it had nothing to do with my demands as a consumer. Needless to say, I wish all of her friends and relatives well...

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Let's maybe stop here, shall we? We cant resolve it!
I was never her fan nor a fan of her p*ke porn speciality, but I still feel deep sympathy for her family and friends in mourning. And especially for her small daughter.
This said for me still there is a big IF her mental harm really stemmed for porn. But we may agree that all her life experience contributed to that sad dramatic act, the domestic violence she suffered from her ex, her family support or lack of, and yes, also her p*ke porn work.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Sun Aug 24, 2025 4:23 pm

Acceptance of a family member's porn career is always going to vary wildly regardless of the culture a girl comes from. The "Latina" thing is a bit silly. Sex is taboo - that's why porn is fun. But there's a difference between accepting a family member having hardcore sex on screen where they're clearly being treated as a physical equal and accepting them being slapped, choked, twisted, puking on cocks etc. A lot of people would accept the former but not the latter. Vitoria Beatriz's sister's comment can indeed be read very much in that way. She clarified "the degrading nature" of her sister's scenes, which suggests an acceptance of porn per se but not that specific kind of porn, which would be perfectly reasonable (and is probably fairly commonplace).

And again, the impact of these scenes on the performers themselves can't be assessed until many years later, not to mention the impact on their future partners, children etc.

To that end, imagine being the child of a 90's female porn star and being exposed to some of their work (hopefully as a young adult and no earlier). That's gonna be a bit "cringe" but nothing more. And the mother can hold her head up high that she was just having fun and even be proud of it. She'll have priced all this in anyway, I'm sure. These girls know they can't escape their porn past so part of the key is to not leave anything behind that you're ashamed or embarrassed about. It's unlikely that both parties would discuss it too much but if they did, it could easily be based on a sense of mutual respect.

Now imagine being the child of a modern porn girl and being exposed to your mother being slapped, choked, twisted, puking on cocks etc. from many years earlier. Is that the same kind of thing? Just a little bit "cringe"? Will the mother similarly proudly defend it? The simple answer is that we don't know, isn't it? We don't have the data. But I know which of the 2 children I would rather be. The 2nd example is deeper, more psychologically complex, less reflective of the real world. These girls probably don't price this in so much either. They're in the moment, maybe a bit nihilistic (as young people often are). The industry is exploiting that vulnerability, that nihilism, without a care for the later fallout. And where it doesn't exist, it is expecting it to be cultivated. It's a pre-requisite for even getting a foot in the door.

You'll try to tell me that I'm wrong but you can't, because neither of us know. But I know what I think. And the only way to be in any way definitive is to revisit this thread in about 10 years, when it's doubtful there will be any kind of legitimate porn industry left. The whole thing is a classic "scorched Earth" scenario, except that no man involved need worry about anything other than having to find another revenue source.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 24, 2025 5:11 pm

TheVulture wrote:You'll try to tell me that I'm wrong...

No, I wont, because indeed, I'd also prefer to me the scenario 1 child.
This said, hypothetically, I'd also accept my mother explaining me look porn then was such and such, I really needed the money and on-set nothing bad happened, nothing I didnt agree on and got payed for.

Btw, do you have a screenshot or remember well what Victoria Beatriz sister tweeted about what she perceived as degrading nature? I only remember her claiming it lead Victoria to 'dark places'.
Could you repeat what you remember? - I wouldnt ask if I didnt trust your judgement.
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