Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

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Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:30 pm

Oscar Batty wrote:
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first you are romanticizing sex work, second yes few people have it good true...but most are not and most are not well mentaly.


I agree with you.


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what do you think????

a lot of porn actresses may have mental problems maybe

but tons of others dont

i dont think most porn actresses have mental problems

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:46 pm

'not well mentally' means mental problems
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:57 pm

There is a WHO statistic that says 50% of all people suffer from mental health problems at some stage in their lives...every one has these problems at some stage.

This includes our beloved porn stars too.

It is about putting measures in place to support them, and to help them get over it.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby antiochethereal » Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:32 pm

Wasn't there some meme or joke about pimps saying that women/prostitutes/hoes were broken or break around the 400 people mark? x)

In all seriousness though, they would have to have mental problems right? why else choose this line of work? I don't think the money would be an incentive strong enough for a healthy being. Much like I do not go out and commit crime to sustain my porn "addiction", I think it is something you carry with you always or at least develop during serious life events. My ex went totally bonkers after being raped when she was younger (allegedly, she also lied compulsively).
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:27 am

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:This includes our beloved porn stars too.
It is about putting measures in place to support them, and to help them get over it.

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In practice doing exactly that isnt that easy, though! :(

Anyway, I would strongly call against putting porn girls and sex workers in vernal in one corner and users, consumers and sex work punters in another.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby marcoB » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:39 am

antiochethereal wrote:In all seriousness though, they would have to have mental problems right? why else choose this line of work?


I hear this so often, but i simply don't get it. If someone can shake their butt on OF and earn more in 5 minutes than others do in a month - then why shouldn't they do that?

Why would someone prefer to be a furniture remover and have broken bones by the age of 35 when they can earn ten times more with healthy bones?

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby YuriyProneBone » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:23 am

He probably was referring to consumers in which case I would agree. Most people that consume porn have an issue. In my case it's sex addiction in general, porn is just one way I release it, but before I was married it used to be picking up girls at nightclubs, parties, and through my line of work in photography. Most of the money I have made as an adult has been spend on sex, including real sex with regular dates with regular girls, escorts, pole dancers, and of course porn.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby squirtjunkie » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:03 am

stupid theme for a poll...


I think its bit 2 sides of one medal.
On the one side there is a reason girls get money for getting money to do sex in front of a cam.......
Customers pay for that, cause its horny and kind of " secret" and the kind of "unmoral" fantasie they have.


Actresses do have problems with what they do if they still remain thinking in the borders of puritan morality but doing these nasty pornshootings though.

If they truely accept what they do, its only same problem many celebrities have outside of porn.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:10 am

squirtjunkie wrote:If they truely accept what they do, its only same problem many celebrities have outside of porn.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby Lionel121 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:16 pm

doraemon_washington wrote:
Oscar Batty wrote:
feltrough wrote:
first you are romanticizing sex work, second yes few people have it good true...but most are not and most are not well mentaly.


I agree with you.


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what do you think????

a lot of porn actresses may have mental problems maybe

but tons of others dont

i dont think most porn actresses have mental problems

porn actresses are holy high women
porn is holy


People in porn are no more likely to have mental problems than the general population. In the US the ratio may be higher due to the US's daft puritanical views on sex - but nothing like as prevalent as Batty thinks. In Germany I've just heard a porn star has retired after years in porn. Proper name known from the start; she lost her well paid job as secretary to the board of directors and started in porn the next day. A colleague who used to be in banking is still in porn as she loves it - name known from the start, used to be a well qualified banker. Just shows how different attitudes are, even in the 1st World.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby marcoB » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:04 pm

squirtjunkie wrote:Actresses do have problems with what they do if they still remain thinking in the borders of puritan morality but doing these nasty pornshootings though.


Wow, in 2024 do people still feel guilty? wtf? that explains a lot

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby petermc934 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:52 am

I have no idea what most porn actresses mental state is (or porn actors for that matter), just like Oscar Batty has no clue either. He doesn’t know MOST porn actresses, just a few of them. I’m sure some have issues around mental health, whatever that might mean, just as lots of people outside of porn do. I’m also sure that the mental strength needed to do that job is far beyond what most of us could handle so most are probably much stronger mentally than most of us.

I’m sure the job takes its toll mentally and the social stigma and resulting isolation attached to it. This type of comment, suggesting that only mentally ill women do the job only adds to that stigma. Maybe he should stop talking these women down as, without them, he wouldn’t have a job.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:03 am

petermc934 wrote:This type of comment, suggesting that only mentally ill women do the job only adds to that stigma.

:mad: :(
Oscar Batty's comment was taken as OP from this thread out of context a bit.
There is some Mambo girls with mental health problems like Sayuri Sakai for instance, but it's rather appropriate to help than, like Mambo actually tries. No idea whether shooting porn in her state helps always but I am no psychiatrist. Many civilians need a psychiatrist as well, but that wasnt the original discussion Oscar was answering, this its not fair to threw stones at him I feel. Oscar also said many porn girls have been though a lot in their past, maybe we should better discuss this. Anyway, such a thread just shows porn users hypocrisy to me, sorry OP!
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Postby M_sicas_Candido » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:08 pm

dap-addict wrote: Many civilians need a psychiatrist as well


dap-addict wrote: Oscar also said many porn girls have been though a lot in their past, maybe we should better discuss this.


Exactly. A considerable part of individuals in current society live in an era of isolation and indifference. Coming across actresses in less than ideal mental health conditions is a reflection of the hostile environment in which most of us already live. It's dishonest to blame professional pornographic work for this.

Look at the current situation in Japanese, Chinese and South Korean societies: people there live to work - under constant pressure from everyone around them for more and more results. I must say that consuming and even producing adult content ends up being a way to relieve stress, relax and diversify your income with something that is intrinsically natural.

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Postby xxxEVOxxx » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:51 pm

Just like the world statistics...the outcomes of this poll are also 50:50...

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Postby Iddaoeeok » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:35 am

I've got no idea and neither has anyone else here and what you or I think is completely irrelevant.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby marcoB » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:07 pm

What might be an interesting observation:
90% of the drama girls, the fake metoo girls etc. are "professionals" (full-time actors) which are somehow mid-range.

1) I have rarely seen a drama or fake-metoo from pro-amateur girls like subgirl0831, HotwifeLexiLove or semi-pro girls like "Anastasia Rose".
I mean subgirl and Lexi, just for example have fucked thousands (!!) of people (pros and amteurs) and you never hear any drama or me-too complains.

2) You also rarely see such crap from the top-actors like Angela White.

Conclusion:
So perhaps drama is a means used by wannabe stars to gain attention and potnential promotion.

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Postby M_sicas_Candido » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:39 pm

marcoB wrote:90% of the drama girls, the fake metoo girls etc. are "professionals" (full-time actors) which are somehow mid-range.


Yes. Because the professional adult industry has no space for feminists. The producers themselves know this. At this point, traditionalism is saving the art of the professional sex.

marcoB wrote: So perhaps drama is a means used by wannabe stars to gain attention and potnential promotion.


I wouldn't doubt it. It was taught the current gen z (still very immature) with gender ideology that they can be whatever they want and the world must fall at their feet. When they don't get what they want, they resort to collective hysteria.

It's no coincidence that the MILF category is growing and the "teen" is being left behind. If it weren't for that, I may say with certainty that artistic sex would also have reached its creative end (just like it happened with Hollywood).

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby Vancouver » Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:21 pm

What Oscar is saying is kind of bullshit

First, what is his "measure" to say this

Everybody who is young is a bit of a mess. If you are in sex work you are running a wild schedule and a unique lifestyle which is very demanding. So you will have days where you sleep in, or are overly emotional, or stressed out, etc. This does not make "mental problem", its life.

All humans have days where we feel like shit, I still do and I am in my 50s and have a really enjoyable life. it happens. The pharma industry would say I need to get on "mental health medication".

hey look, people who chose sex work have some common traits. They don't like structure, they are open minded, fiercely independent, are somewhat disorganized and like the thrill of instant cash and the money you can make in sex work. They also are in a job that is very challenging for the body and mind and that will mean some days, you will not feel that great. That is just normal.

This modern day messaging that everyone who has bad days or drama in life has "mental health issues' and needs to run to the doctor to get medication, is utter nonesense.

If Oscar is meeting a lot of women who are not in good mental health, perhaps he needs to look in the mirror at his recruiting practices and if he is exploiting women in bad situations who are desperate for money and therefore he is exposed to more difficult people to deal with.

I don't know the answer, but such ridiculous generalizations about women in sex work are stupid. There are thousands and thousands of suicides in a year, but if 3 porn girls do it, its suddenly "blame porn". shall we blame accounting for the office girl who has a drug problem or blame walmart for the checkout girl who can't pay her rent because she is terrible with money?

people are people.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TomHardick » Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:27 am

Man, the only thing that Oscar did, was replying a comment, and that's it, he didn't say anything. I wouldn't get mad at him. Mental health does not distinguish your line of work.

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Postby isis666xxx » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:54 am

around half of the users say yes lol
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Postby DPraved » Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 pm

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xxxVIPERxxx wrote:This includes our beloved porn stars too.
It is about putting measures in place to support them, and to help them get over it.

+ 1
In practice doing exactly that isnt that easy, though! :(

Anyway, I would strongly call against putting porn girls and sex workers in vernal in one corner and users, consumers and sex work punters in another.


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Postby Oscar Batty » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:57 am

Vancouver wrote:What Oscar is saying is kind of bullshit


Could you please quote the so called "BS" that I said? It seems like you guys know better than the people in the industry.

Vancouver wrote:First, what is his "measure" to say this


Could you quote what I said, except agreeing with the other member. I work in the porn industry with over 1000 girls. I think I am in the position to know what is going on. Porn isn't my first job. I previously worked in different sector.

Vancouver wrote:
If Oscar is meeting a lot of women who are not in good mental health, perhaps he needs to look in the mirror at his recruiting practices and if he is exploiting women in bad situations who are desperate for money and therefore he is exposed to more difficult people to deal with.


Listen, I worked as a performers for other producers, director and producers. It is not about who I meet or "exploiting". This is the reality and slowly starting to catch us. This situation concern both males and females.


Vancouver wrote:There are thousands and thousands of suicides in a year, but if 3 porn girls do it, its suddenly "blame porn". shall we blame accounting for the office girl who has a drug problem or blame walmart for the checkout girl who can't pay her rent because she is terrible with money?


To your last point, I don't know why you even have to mention this. Yes, porn is not blame but I am starting to come into conclusion that porno is not helping those coming into this business with their previous problems.

In the past years, every performers that died, was suicide, by the exception of one who died in a moto accident in Rio de Janeiro.

Last month, I was really considering quiting this job after loosing a girl who was only 18 years old.

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Postby jerrybb » Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:14 am

Oscar Batty wrote:
Vancouver wrote:What Oscar is saying is kind of bullshit


Could you please quote the so called "BS" that I said? It seems like you guys know better than the people in the industry.

Vancouver wrote:First, what is his "measure" to say this


Could you quote what I said, except agreeing with the other member. I work in the porn industry with over 1000 girls. I think I am in the position to know what is going on. Porn isn't my first job. I previously worked in different sector.

Vancouver wrote:
If Oscar is meeting a lot of women who are not in good mental health, perhaps he needs to look in the mirror at his recruiting practices and if he is exploiting women in bad situations who are desperate for money and therefore he is exposed to more difficult people to deal with.


Listen, I worked as a performers for other producers, director and producers. It is not about who I meet or "exploiting". This is the reality and slowly starting to catch us. This situation concern both males and females.


Vancouver wrote:There are thousands and thousands of suicides in a year, but if 3 porn girls do it, its suddenly "blame porn". shall we blame accounting for the office girl who has a drug problem or blame walmart for the checkout girl who can't pay her rent because she is terrible with money?


To your last point, I don't know why you even have to mention this. Yes, porn is not blame but I am starting to come into conclusion that porno is not helping those coming into this business with their previous problems.

In the past years, every performers that died, was suicide, by the exception of one who died in a moto accident in Rio de Janeiro.

Last month, I was really considering quiting this job after loosing a girl who was only 18 years old.


So sorry for the loss of the young actress. The suicide rate amongst male and female porn actors is very high. I think a lot is drug related due to lifestyle and many working escorting too. I would think there is a massive cocaine problem in Brazil as there is in Europe amongst the younger generation.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby Bodum » Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:40 pm

If they didn't have mental problems before, they will after having sex with multiple men for money.

But c'mon. Women are generally more emotional than men. And there is new research that strongly shows that the more partners a woman has, the less stable she will become.

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Postby TheVulture » Mon Aug 18, 2025 11:47 pm

Bodum wrote:If they didn't have mental problems before, they will after having sex with multiple men for money.


I don't think that is as much a problem as the way they're treated in contemporary porn. The slapping, choking, arm-twisting etc. and being expected to puke whilst being throat-fucked, all of this would mess with the head of the most well-adjusted person and have a very tangible effect on anyone's self esteem.

I doubt that the female porn stars of the 90's and 00's are belatedly suffering with mental health issues but the ones of the last 10 years almost certainly will (if they are not already).

The important question is whether to have any sympathy with them. On the one hand I do but perhaps you have to accept that girls prepared to put up with that stuff are to some extent responsible for their own (possible) mental decline.

For its part, the industry is probably happy for them to be mentally damaged as it makes them easier to control and exploit.

It's all very sad really. It's probably not far from the mark to say that most men in contemporary porn are misogynistic bullies and most women are damaged and occasionally desperate individuals. None of this is an inevitable consequence of porn as you seem to suggest - it's due entirely to choices made by (male) porn producers in the last 15/20 years.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby BR_Razor86 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:40 am

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Bodum wrote:If they didn't have mental problems before, they will after having sex with multiple men for money.


I don't think that is as much a problem as the way they're treated in contemporary porn. The slapping, choking, arm-twisting etc. and being expected to puke whilst being throat-fucked, all of this would mess with the head of the most well-adjusted person and have a very tangible effect on anyone's self esteem.

I doubt that the female porn stars of the 90's and 00's are belatedly suffering with mental health issues but the ones of the last 10 years almost certainly will (if they are not already).

The important question is whether to have any sympathy with them. On the one hand I do but perhaps you have to accept that girls prepared to put up with that stuff are to some extent responsible for their own (possible) mental decline.

For its part, the industry is probably happy for them to be mentally damaged as it makes them easier to control and exploit.

It's all very sad really. It's probably not far from the mark to say that most men in contemporary porn are misogynistic bullies and most women are damaged and occasionally desperate individuals. None of this is an inevitable consequence of porn as you seem to suggest - it's due entirely to choices made by (male) porn producers in the last 15/20 years.


Stop talking from your ass . It has nothing to do with hardcore porn . If it is just show your facts . I can name a huge ass list pornstar who does all this things and they still alive and living their lifes.
You said it didn't happen in 90 well here is a big ass list for you to check .unlike the bs you are spitting the truth is different.
https://www.iafd.com/deadporn/

They pretends they care about women health like taking two or three cocks in your ass is so healthy and normal thing to do.they never mention about the permanent damage , because they are here to watch these type of scenes .

But they are worried about spit and slap . Lmfao . Oh my god this gonna hurt them mentally .
So what about those two or three fat big cocks in their ass ? Nah that's fine . All women around the world likes that and they can't live without it . Who says taking multiple cocks in your ass is humiliating? That's bs .

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:48 am

Wow, you are back after 1/2 year without your much needed input! :cool:

TheVulture wrote:The important question is whether to have any sympathy with them. On the one hand I do but perhaps you have to accept that girls prepared to put up with that stuff are to some extent responsible for their own (possible) mental decline.

First bodum is putting a typical neo-con argument trying to cut back women's liberation. :mad:
Second as to your 'perhaps': I think we should be aware that younger generations than porn users are more used than us to live in different realities and play different roles, ie. being actresses is easier for them because they always already act in social media a lot. Now porn went a certain road, I reject often as you do, still it's a fact and work in porn is a choice mainly young women take. I strongly doubt it affects their mental health more than anything else they do. It's only a role-play basically.
I'd be more concerned about society as such tbh.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby Vancouver » Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:51 am

The word "mental problems" gets thrown out very easily, especially on women. if they stand up for themselves or say no, they get called a problem. Have a bad day, its mental problems. Don't do what their boss says, mental problems, etc.

Every demographic has a percentage that have actual mental health issues. There are also a lot these days who claim they have mental health issues because they dont know how to cope with shitty things in life anymore.

But this stereotype that most porn girls are broken and mentally ill is mostly nonsense. Unless, of course ,Oscar is recruiting downtrodden vulnerable damaged women in a poor country who just turned 18 or 19 and are willing to be pissed on for 200 bucks just so he can film some porn . If that is his recruiting , then he will be exposed to more mental health problems by that very nature.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:34 am

dap-addict wrote:It's only a role-play basically.


No it isn't. It's explicitly reinforcing the idea that women exist to be the recipients (whether willing or not) of aggressive and domineering physical behaviour by men. That is going to have a profound effect on any young girl, especially those - the majority I would expect - who go along with it as it's required in the industry rather than because it aligns with their own sexual desires.

Clearly, this more recent aesthetic development within porn is designed to be consumed by men and specifically, a sub-set of men who are aroused by seeing women physically overpowered and entirely subservient. I have always thought that the size of this sub-set has been greatly exaggerated by porn producers, who perhaps harbour a great deal of inherent misogyny themselves (it is probably difficult to remain rational and caring as a male within the industry for a long period), thus making it a convenient excuse.

We probably don't really have much evidence as to the damaging mental effect of these acts on these women yet as this stuff has only been around for about 10-15 years but we will start to see it soon as these women grow into full adulthood and begin to reassess these episodes. A common theme of the whole "Me Too" thing is women saying "I didn't think it was that bad at the time but now I realise that it was". That's an entirely natural part of growing into a full adult from early adulthood (when you're feeling things out and don't always fully understand or feel confident with boundaries set by others) that any man can recognise.

It is absurd to suggest that porn actresses carrying out hard consensual sex acts that nonetheless treat them entirely as physical equals (ie with complete respect) would have the same impact (or more) on their mental health as acts that involve humiliation and physical overpowerment as standard. It is the convenient position of the entitled male who ultimately doesn't give a toss as long as he gets his rocks off and who cheerleads from the sidelines for young girls to be more and more extreme as it is their "duty" as modern sex performers. It isn't and it never was but alas, enough of them will fall in line for various reasons but most likely desperation.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby Jimbo8012395 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:43 pm

There's probably some truth to what Oscar says if we're being honest. It depends on market though.

It's far more likely that US Porn stars come from dysfunctional backgrounds. Chico Wang used to interview many girls and a lot of them came from broken families, had been sexually molested/raped as child by family members or people known to them and/or had pimps. Obviously Chico was fucked up too as he used to beat his porn star wife (Hailey Paige) and killed her before turning the gun on himself. A lot of very damaged women and men in the US porn biz especially judging by the drug/alcohol addiction issues and suicide rates.

Whereas many Eastern European girls in the late 90's/early 2000's, did porn because of the huge amounts of money they could earn. The average wage in Czechoslovakia and Hungary during the late 90's was approximately $3,500 a year whereas a lot of high profile porn girls from those countries could earn 50X that amount. Easy to see why so many girls at the time ended up in porn.

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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:36 pm

TheVulture wrote:
dap-addict wrote:It's only a role-play basically.


No it isn't.
(...)
It is absurd to suggest that porn actresses carrying out hard consensual sex acts that nonetheless treat them entirely as physical equals (ie with complete respect) would have the same impact (or more) on their mental health as acts that involve humiliation and physical overpowerment as standard.

I agree with you here.
Ofc effects on self-confidence is different and like you I would like more women empowerment porn scenes than the opposite and now added all male oral overpower p*ke porn.
Whether and how this really affects mental health is another question. As I said today's teenagers and young adults are used to play different roles and live in an online reality parallel to their real lives etc.

In all these mental health of porn star discussions there is a strong tendency to infuse Christian guilt culture via a backdoor to porn use and porn performance, and a lot of these discussions take an anti-porn turn very soon, especially if an actress or actor committed suicide. But people forget that mental health is a very complicated thing also rooted a lot in the past of individuals, in their past and current family relations etc. Also I feel we tend to fall into that over-psychologization fashion trap here. Basically everybody I know in RL has mental health issues, and so have all porn people ofc, too.

I feel Oscar is digging deep by compassionately questioning how much good and bad porn can do to young adults with pre-porn mental health issues. But not porn production as such is to blame here, but how girls are treated on porn sets. Here directors can give them lot of self-confidence and teach them to set bounderies instead of ignoring them. Porn done in most studios I know is actually rather helpful than the opposite. But ofc there are black sheep out there.
But all the sadness of a beautiful young woman gone far too early shouldn't neuter blurr out our rationality nor compassion and true respect, also of a young persons choice!
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:46 pm

dap-addict wrote:In all these mental health of porn star discussions there is a strong tendency to infuse Christian guilt culture via a backdoor to porn use and porn performance, and a lot of these discussions take an anti-porn turn very soon, especially if an actress or actor committed suicide.


In general discussions in the normal outside world yes but nobody's doing that here. Apart from a few idiots who obviously have their own agendas, anyone on here can tell that I love porn as a concept and am simply calling it how I see it. I've found it heart-breaking watching porn descend into an angry, joyless wrestle-fest over the last 10/15 years and much as I have limited sympathy for some of the girls who put up with the male directors and studs and their risible antics, I only really have myself to blame for sticking around and somehow thinking it would course-correct under its own steam. If I'm honest, I'm only hovering around here now to survey the wreckage and maybe even piss on its grave. I laughed when I saw my signature putting one of my posts up the other night - quite reasonable porn preferences that would have been utterly uncontroversial 20 years ago but in 2025 I might as well be asking for a ticket to the moon.

Ultimately, if the current porn climate doesn't improve and things even become worse - existential, perhaps - it won't be the conservative evangelical puritans who have wanted to ban porn for decades who are to blame. It will be the male custodians of the industry whose reckless pursuit of a limited "angry dude" dollar ultimately scared away its most valuable commodity - the girls - whilst attracting the attention of sensible governments like mine (the UK), who might quite reasonably question the wisdom of allowing their young adults to view content that portrays women in a wholly negative light and mentally damages both the young men and women who view it in ways that we don't fully understand yet but seem quite reasonably apparent.

I suppose porn had a good run of it (the 90's/00's - oh my!) and in the end was simply consumed by its uglier elements, which in all honesty you would have to say was never an entirely unlikely outcome.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:47 am

TheVulture wrote:
dap-addict wrote:In all these mental health of porn star discussions there is a strong tendency to infuse Christian guilt culture via a backdoor to porn use and porn performance, and a lot of these discussions take an anti-porn turn very soon, especially if an actress or actor committed suicide.
In general discussions in the normal outside world yes but nobody's doing that here. (...) anyone on here can tell that I love porn as a concept and am simply calling it how I see it.
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I suppose porn had a good run of it (the 90's/00's - oh my!) and in the end was simply consumed by its uglier elements, which in all honesty you would have to say was never an entirely unlikely outcome.

Sorry to say, but I see it done also here: Check Vitoria Beatiz model tread after she committed that sad heartbreaking suicide just as one example. Me, too, I never likes p*ke porn but to blame porn sex side fetishes for mental problems? WTF, sorry! :mad: :confused:
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby TheVulture » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:57 pm

dap-addict wrote:Sorry to say, but I see it done also here: Check Vitoria Beatiz model tread after she committed that sad heartbreaking suicide just as one example. Me, too, I never likes p*ke porn but to blame porn sex side fetishes for mental problems? WTF, sorry! :mad: :confused:


That's very broadbrush and a misrepresentation of what I'm saying, which is that exposing more and more girls in porn - the vast majority of them - to humiliating and degrading acts such as slapping, choking, twisting, puke etc. as standard can only have a negative impact on their mental health, especially a lot further down the line.

Are you disputing that? You talk of modern youth and their "alternative realities", role play etc. but these are human beings. The modern hi-tech world hasn't turned them into robots. What you're doing there seems to me to be excusing porn for its worst excesses and essentially victim-blaming. I blame the girls to some extent for not walking away at the first sign of any such rubbish but the majority of the blame lies with the (mostly male) porn moguls, who clearly only see dollar signs.

I don't know anything about that poor girl. I would doubt that her suicide could be solely down to her porn career but again, if she has been exposed to degrading and humiliating acts from entry and under the spurious notion of "free choice" then that almost certainly would not have helped. There have of course been female (and male) porn stars who have killed themselves in the earlier softcore years going back decades so it's never clear cut. These things are complex. My argument is not that modern porn producers are pushing girls to suicide but simply that they are making a conscious decision to degrade and humiliate them for financial gain - something that has genuinely never happened before in porn to this extent. The cost of that to these girls is very difficult to assess. It will take time to reveal itself but reveal itself I'm quite sure it will.
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Re: Oscar Batty says most porn actresses have mental problems

Postby dap-addict » Fri Aug 22, 2025 6:13 am

TheVulture wrote:You talk of modern youth and their "alternative realities", role play etc. but these are human beings. The modern hi-tech world hasn't turned them into robots. What you're doing there seems to me to be excusing porn for its worst excesses and essentially victim-blaming.
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My argument is not that modern porn producers are pushing girls to suicide but simply that they are making a conscious decision to degrade and humiliate them for financial gain - something that has genuinely never happened before in porn to this extent. The cost of that to these girls is very difficult to assess.

It's not victim blaming! :mad: But you seem to see these girls doing porn with side-fetishes you may not like - like me who never liked p*ke and foodporn Vitoria Beatriz got famous for - as victims, especially if they were manhandled etc. with a previous script agreement.
Also degrade and humiliate is a very large field. For some degrading is showing them having just sex to a larger public, for others degrading is only past 100% Hell @ AGO. Fact is girls choose a porn job to do and are offered a set of sex acts and usually side fetishes. They can say yes or reject them - and they have a safe word on-set. Ofc it's complicated if they are less self-confident and wanna please directors to get re-booked etc and ofc mental health issues are even more complicated and suicides yet more again. But to blame p*ke or 100% AGO Hell scenes for it is just anti-porn bs! :mad:

Finally, I always liked your approach of lust and libertinism in porn, but fact is that for most porn girls it's mainly a well-payed job before all the rest.
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Postby dap-addict » Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:21 am

TheVulture wrote:You talk of modern youth and their "alternative realities", role play etc. but these are human beings. The modern hi-tech world hasn't turned them into robots.

Exactly!
And they have feelings ofc!
All I said is that today's younger generation like Victoria Beatriz and younger is much more used to live in different realities and tell the difference between real and played humiliation. And pro porn studios like Yummy, Mambo, GIO etc empower these girls not the contrary!
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