PornBox Best Pornstar Tournament

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Havnt used that Tw since 7y, hahaha!

Btw, Tournament participation still varies a lot with between 13 (Zlata vs. Marta) and 27 (Nuria vs. Nicole) votes!

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why 32? to make it as compact as possible and to play it as a tournament like this .

dodonet, do I See it right that now, 2hour before the end of your Tournaments opened the pairings for the round of 16 would be the fellowing?
Nuria Millan (Spain) vs. Baby Kxtten (England)
Kristy Black (Czech) vs. Alize Maze (Belgium)
Monika Fox (Russia) vs. Jolee Love (Germany)
Ria Sunn (Czech) vs. Lady Ana (Italy)

Shall we maybe define also ranks 17 to 32 by loosing girls, also to soothe our porn fans soul?
i.e.
Nicole Black vs. Lena Coxx
Stacy Bloom vs. Giada Sgh
Georgia Koneva vs. Areta Ridera
Princess Lili vs. Julia North

[dodonet1994]

why 32? to make it as compact as possible and to play it as a tournament like this .

dodonet, do I See it right that now, 2hour before the end of your Tournaments opened the pairings for the round of 16 would be the fellowing?
Nuria Millan (Spain) vs. Baby Kxtten (England)
Kristy Black (Czech) vs. Alize Maze (Belgium)
Monika Fox (Russia) vs. Jolee Love (Germany)
Ria Sunn (Czech) vs. Lady Ana (Italy)

I think we shall open all R16 match-ups together or at least after all R32 matches are finished.

Shall we maybe define also ranks 17 to 32 by loosing girls, also to soothe our porn fans soul?
i.e.
Nicole Black vs. Lena Coxx
Stacy Bloom vs. Giada Sgh
Georgia Koneva vs. Areta Ridera
Princess Lili vs. Julia North

I don't think there's any point of doing losers match-ups, they lost for a reason although I voted for most of them and believed one of them should've won

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I think we shall open all R16 match-ups together or at least after all R32 matches are finished.

Yes, ofc, I just asked to be sure to have understood the whole idea really.

Shall we maybe define also ranks 17 to 32 by loosing girls, also to soothe our porn fans soul?
i.e.
Nicole Black vs. Lena Coxx
Stacy Bloom vs. Giada Sgh
Georgia Koneva vs. Areta Ridera
Princess Lili vs. Julia North

I don't think there's any point of doing losers match-ups, they lost for a reason although I voted for most of them and believed one of them should've won [/quote]
I would still consider that in a second turn once the quarter, half and final is done.

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why 32? to make it as compact as possible and to play it as a tournament like this .

dodonet, do I See it right that now, 2hour before the end of your Tournaments opened the pairings for the round of 16 would be the fellowing?
Nuria Millan (Spain) vs. Baby Kxtten (England)
Kristy Black (Czech) vs. Alize Maze (Belgium)
Monika Fox (Russia) vs. Jolee Love (Germany)
Ria Sunn (Czech) vs. Lady Ana (Italy)

This stayed the same after end of voting in Tournaments 1 to 8.
Now for Tournaments 9 to 16 we should just add these:
Marta Villalobos (Spain) vs. Monika Wild (Russia)
Emily Belle (England) vs. Brittany Bardot (Czech)
Sofa Weber (Russia) vs. Mina (Latvia)
Kitty Li (Russia) vs. Vittoria Devine (France)


Btw, we also see that country-wise
Czech - 3
Russia - 3
England - 2
Spain - 2
are the strongest representations. Czech and England are specially good because they brought most of their representatives from R32 into R16. Russia performed quite week with loosing 5 girls in R32. This said again I think as well Nicole Black as Stacy Bloom were victims of an extremely unfavorable AI created run-up.

[dodonet1994]

New polls have been created, carry on with your ones

[dap-addict]

Almost 1 day later, but yeah, done!
R16 Match 5: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=94659&p=1401822#p1401822
R16 Match 6: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=94660
R16 Match 7: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=94661
R16 Match 8: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=94664

Lets hope we can attract a slight bit more voters this time!
Maybe even some secret forum readers will register in order to vote, that would be great!

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Btw, we also see that country-wise
Czech - 3
Russia - 3
England - 2
Spain - 2
are the strongest representations. Czech and England are specially good because they brought most of their representatives from R32 into R16. Russia performed quite week with loosing 5 girls in R32. This said again I think as well Nicole Black as Stacy Bloom were victims of an extremely unfavorable AI created run-up.

There's a mistake: Russia was able to delegate 4 girls into R16 actually - and therefore won as a porn talent pool!
Now I am really curious how many Russian girls make it into R8.

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Russia performed quite week with loosing 5 girls in R32. This said again I think as well Nicole Black as Stacy Bloom were victims of an extremely unfavorable AI created run-up.

That's why I don't like the system of draw you have chosen. You just can't make such conclusions like how weak or strong some country was because all of it depended on draw without seeds, especially if we talk about 1st round.
Random is not necessary "fair", that's why you won't find any sports with totally random draw, all of it have seeds.

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You just can't make such conclusions like how weak or strong some country was because all of it depended on draw without seeds, especially if we talk about 1st round.
Random is not necessary "fair", that's why you won't find any sports with totally random draw, all of it have seeds.

I had proposed some seeds as posted above.
But than I decided to go with dodonet because this Football-like Tournament was his idea. And I just do like polls because they help the girls and promote studios!

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These were my seeds so to say.

...but pair the fellowing like this:
nuria millan Spain vs Monika Fox Russia
Nicole Black Russia vs lady ana Italy
Baby kitten England vs Areta Ridera Bulgaria
lena coxx Italy vs alice maze Belgium
Kristy Black Czech vs Julia North Ukraine
Stacy Bloom Russia vs georgia koneva France
giada suicide Italy vs Adeline Lafouine Swiss
Leila Botwin France vs emily belle England
jolee love Germany vs vittoria devine France
Kitty Li Russia vs brittany bardot Czech
nicole love Czech vs emejota Spain

But than I gave in very fast, maybe it was a mistake? Because poll results would be much more representative if we had done it this way and not without Stacy Bloom and Nicole Black etc. like we have to do R16 now.

[dodonet1994]

I don't like to repeat myself here but what's the point of doing fixed match-ups to only avoid big names playing each other, all 32 are big names at least have been killing it lately and every round should include strong matches to make it fun. And if stacy would have won R32 and proceeded to play Kristy in R16 she'd have lost like she has initially lost. The point is equal chances for everyone and maybe some upsets would occur like Alice Maze

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And if stacy would have won R32 and proceeded to play Kristy in R16 she'd have lost like she has initially lost. The point is equal chances for everyone...

If Stacy would have had a chance to proceed to R16 she would have called herself back into fans memory and been able to beat Kristy Black in R16.

[pronossstat]

But than I decided to go with dodonet because this Football-like Tournament was his idea. And I just do like polls because they help the girls and promote studios!

Again, where is this "Football-like" tournament without seeds? Have you or dodonet ever see any football tournaments?) And that's because I started to arguing in first place - it's not football-like tournament, it's the opposite of a football tournament.

I don't like to repeat myself here but what's the point of doing fixed match-ups to only avoid big names playing each other, all 32 are big names at least have been killing it lately and every round should include strong matches to make it fun.

It's simply not true at all, otherwise the word "big" doesn't have any sense.

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It's simply not true at all, otherwise the word "big" doesn't have any sense.

In case you forgot: The girls still have to be active in porn, or at least not retired. And they had to be European, even EU based but Thai or Latina didnt help. Therefore a lot of really big LP names had no chance to get listed.

[pronossstat]

It's simply not true at all, otherwise the word "big" doesn't have any sense.

In case you forgot: The girls still have to be active in porn, or at least not retired. And they had to be European, even EU based but Thai or Latina didnt help. Therefore a lot of really big LP names had no chance to get listed.

And? An absence of latin/american girls doesn't make girls with barely 10 scenes (or even less) big, it's simply unfair to those who have many years with 100+ scenes under their belt.

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British to add:
Tina Tolley - constant MILF
Ivy Maddox - constant MILF
Alexxa Vice - constant
Louise Lee - constant MILF

Today I wonder why we didnt include Alexxa Vice in the end?
Maybe as many countries as possible overshadowed her.

[dodonet1994]

I think R8 will be epic
Nuria vs Kristy
Monika fox vs Ria
Brittany vs Monika wild (so far)
Mina vs Vittoria

This shows the downfall of LP, only 2 out of the 8 are relatively new performers.
Potentials like kira viburn and others left the industry and some disappeared like kitty li and kristina grace and few new talents appear every now and then like Indy. I don't like how the platform are going and hopefully they fix this up soon

[pronossstat]

This shows the downfall of LP, only 2 out of the 8 are relatively new performers.
Potentials like kira viburn and others left the industry and some disappeared like kitty li and kristina grace and few new talents appear every now and then like Indy. I don't like how the platform are going and hopefully they fix this up soon

Obviously it's because this is "Best European Pornstar Tournament", not the whole lp. If there were latin/american girls there could be bunch of relatively new performers.
Russian girls were always the heart of lp, but something happened in 2022 so it's almost impossible to them to shoot outside their country, and after 2024 inside too.
As for Europe, we never had such stars from France and Spain we have now. The Italians let us down a bit, but the rest of Europe is pretty much the same as always.

[dodonet1994]

Obviously it's because this is "Best European Pornstar Tournament", not the whole lp. If there were latin/american girls there could be bunch of relatively new performers.
Russian girls were always the heart of lp, but something happened in 2022 so it's almost impossible to them to shoot outside their country, and after 2024 inside too.
As for Europe, we never had such stars from France and Spain we have now. The Italians let us down a bit, but the rest of Europe is pretty much the same as always.

The heart of LP was always the east European countries in general, not latins not west Europe not america. We have very few east European upcoming stars and even most of them don't have the potential of the likes of Brittany, Kristy, Nicole and Stacy.
You can't even name 10 great performers from west Europe.

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The heart of LP was always the east European countries in general, not latins not west Europe not america. We have very few east European upcoming stars and even most of them don't have the potential of the likes of Brittany, Kristy, Nicole and Stacy.
You can't even name 10 great performers from west Europe.

Top-50 from East Europe in question: Czechs, Russians, Mina. Some Ukrainians if we talk about top-100. That's all, other countries like Hungary f.e. are not and have never been even close.
Czechs were the heart of LP for obvious reasons - main studios based in Prague. But they last great years were covid years, also for this obvious reason. First stars like Timea, Linda Sweet, Belle Claire retired long time ago, Susan Ayn quit in 2021. After Brittany and Rebecca Sharon stopped shooting, and Kristi and Cindy Shine almost stopped in 2022 we have only Ria. My point is that Czechia doesn't have new stars or active stars (except Ria) already for years, it's not this year problem.
Same for Russia but for other reasons.
Against this background, Western Europe does not look so bad. At least they have new great stars (Nuria and Vittoria), some other top-50 are still active like Alexxa Vice, Baby Kxtten, Lady Ana, even Adeline is somewhere around.