jjwhite1985 wrote:This statement here is the crux. This dude's entire argument, and apparently yours to a degree, is based off of this incorrect assumption. Producers like Gio and others have been on the forum before to confirm that wet scenes sell better, but even discounting that, use the same logic that was pointed out earlier in the thread. There's no way studios are going to produce scenes that are more difficult and expensive to make if they weren't more profitable than the alternative.
In the *entire* porn market, sure wet scenes aren't as popular, but they're focused on the LP audience, of which forum posters are a miniscule percentage. And yeah they could try to open themselves up to a bigger audience by going more vanilla along the lines of brazzers or evilangel, but they'd lose a lot of their established audience while having to compete against those other sites.
It's a touch more nuanced than that.
My argument is that at the time when Legalporno was making that switch - the genre of DAP/DVP within the wider porn market was still an anomaly - an unknown. Most people didn't even know it existed - and because of the vanilla porn of the West - it was only folks who went into the typically far more Gonzo shit that discovered it.
You gotta remember - in like 2005 - porn videos on the Internet were (if you were lucky) in 360p. Most people didn't have broadband. The tube sites? They didn't exist back then. There were just these weird, greasy, vid hosting sites that blasted you with fifteen pop-ups for every video you wanted to watch. And then, more than half the time, the video wouldn't actually work.
By 2015 - things were just starting to come around to what we're enjoying these days. Just starting to. And while LegalPorno certainly existed - there was very little way to find out that it did - unless you went on some deep dives for particular subjects that most people wouldn't even think of popping into Google.
The European and American markets were still very much separated - and the American market - as it was - was very much still a "professionally amateur" kind of place. They shot amazing porn - but the distribution networks weren't in place yet - because the entirety of the Internet was still too young for it - and no one had really settled on a comfortable "norm" to distribute porn with.
The Tube sites, ironically, helped with that tremendously. Because now you had everyone being exposed to everything all at once - and they acted as a far better promoter of talents and brands that people would have otherwise never had the chance to run into.
But, before then? LegalPorno was essentially on it's own little island. Where the enjoyers of that particular brand of smut did do just that - enjoyed it - but there it stayed, essentially, in it's own little bubble.
It was around this time that when LegalPorno introduced pissing into it's repetoire that all of the piss fanatics found out about it and gravitated over. But - by adding pissing - LegalPorno (the brand holders of DAP/DVP porno) essentially typecast DAP/DVP porn as being on par with pissing.
And this was before the wider market had a chance to figure out they even existed. There were millions of porno enjoyers in America that would have loved to see their favorite actresses get DAP'd by 2018/2020 - but for whom now that would remain a forever impossible reality - because the people shooting that porn would automatically be handing the girl a jug and an umbrella. And even if they wouldn't - the dye had been cast.
"You're going to shoot for that studio? Fucking gross."
This argument that "pissing made more money" is complete bullshit, because that's like saying, "It made more money before 95% of the market would've found out we even existed - 94.5% of which don't want to see pissing in their videos."
Yeah - there are people out there that love watching videos of people eating shit, too. Thing is - if you cater to that market - you're most likely going to not be catering to other people who will stay as far the fuck away from you as possible.
And seeing as LegalPorno was the brand-carriers of DAP/DVP in general - it became this untouchable genre for pretty much all hot actresses up to this day that could afford a train ticket beyond Prague.
GIO didn't read the market correctly - he didn't understand the medium itself.
Just like all of these girls shooting porn for what amounts to pennies don't realize that, already today never mind in the future, all someone will have to do at a workplace is put their profile picture into a search engine, and all of their videos will come popping up at once.
GIO figured that porno would remain this dirty, under the table, don't-talk-about-it genre that was on the underbelly of the Internet. He didn't seem to get that porn would, in effect, become the Internet. And that his works would soon be on tens of thousands of different Tube sites, placed right next to vanilla cam-shows, and private Japanese bukkake shows. That essentially - what was once allocated (by force of circumstance) to a tiny corner of the Internet - would essentially be placed everywhere all the time all at once.
So - for the shirt term profit margin at the time - sure! It may have made sense.
In terms for the health of the brand or product going forward?
I dunno - do you think having some of the top American talents making LegalPorno an automatic stop on the tour would have pulled in more profit?
Or having a 45 year old balloon tits unshaved MILF stand at the bottom of a dirty pit holding a jug?
Tough call.
Speaking of which - where's LegalPorno again ?
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It's honestly impressive how you've managed to be wrong on *every* point you've tried to make. You're a horrifyingly boring troll, who for some reason has convinced himself that he knows everything about the porn industry, and instead of actually listening, even when producers like Giorgio come on here to tell you what's what, let's facts bounce straight off of him. Do you have any idea how tiresome it is to engage somebody who's created their own bizarro reality, like an autistic basement-dweller with entirely too much time on their hands, who just interminably posts the same dumb shit over and over? It's such odd behavior that it *has* to be a form of trolling - nobody without a diagnosable condition would do this earnestly.
