dap-addict wrote:latina-girls-yes wrote:Vivan's ethinicity and nationality are none of your business, and you trying to project your own slavophobic and russiaphobic hatreds onto her is racist behaviour which has no place in this thread
+ 1Interesting additional info if true, though.
i agree that it would be very interesting information if true (curiosity killed the cat, and all that), but i also think it would be *super unwise* to go into it any further because... well you see what happens. the anti-russian trolls come out to play
dap-addict wrote:Anyway, leave politics out of these model treads, please!
i'm fine with no politics in models threads (it quickly becomes a bottomless pit which distracts from the model and her work), but i felt motivated to comment on this occasion not to make a political point, but to defend a model (that we all know and love) from the deeply obnoxious insinuation/insult (implied) that she felt compelled to adopt brazilian citizenship because she must be so ashamed of being (or so they claim) russian
that struck me as a personal racist (antislavic/russiaphobic) attack on a model (and all russian models who perform here, whether Vivian is russian or not), and so i felt obliged to speak up to clarify things as i did (again for those at the back):
1) Vivian's nationality is no-one's affair but Vivian's
2) Vivian's motivations for taking brazilian citizenship are no-one's affair but Vivian's (though you, DAPaddict, know more than most how difficult life has become for models with russian passports to travel and work in recent years)
3) and Vivian's feelings about her country of her birth (were this unevidenced rumour to be true) are no-one's affair but Vivian's. she should not feel drawn by trolls to agree/disagree with any provocations on this theme
that was all non-political. what was political (and mea culpa on my part) was that i noticed this 'genocidal russians' insult was coming from a german, and i felt (for obvious reasons to all i hope) that such an accusation from someone whose national history is what it is, was a bit f*cking rich.
and so i saw the proverbial red mist and (for better or worse) that anger coloured my closing remark. enough
perhaps a suitable penance for anyone here (myself included) who feels they might have allowed themselves to get distracted from Vivian and her work by this theme, would be to post a favourite image of Vivian over the next 24 hours to bring the thread back around to the most important thing - the star herself (some are already doing this, and i think those instincts are good and to be followed)
so here's a gorgeous publicity photo of Vivian attending an xxx fair (somewhere in europe i think?) in may/june of this year from Vivian's social media. you can lick it if you like!