Chimpy.677 wrote:...for example 2 scenes per month, because that in the medium or long term will surely make you recognized and also the scenes will remain in history.
On the other hand, I would always try to look for girls from amateur streaming sites, for example, (...) there was a beautiful girl who streamed with the user (if I'm not mistaken) it was "Stervochka", it would be crazy to have girls like that for a DAP scenes.
dap-addict wrote:Chimpy.677 wrote:...for example 2 scenes per month, because that in the medium or long term will surely make you recognized and also the scenes will remain in history.
On the other hand, I would always try to look for girls from amateur streaming sites, for example, (...) there was a beautiful girl who streamed with the user (if I'm not mistaken) it was "Stervochka", it would be crazy to have girls like that for a DAP scenes.
Is it really enough to release 2 scenes per month only?
I think thats the big question in the long run when thinking of funding a porn studio, but having only limited financial resources like this 50000$.
Btw, wow what a cute Russian girl, Stervochka!
Do you happen to know how it is in Russia with streaming revenues? Reaching out for amateur girls might allow to cut the intermediaries and undercut the local going fees a bit while paying a fair price still.
Minus with a total DAP rookie is long shooting process till total failure. DAPs cant fail if you shoot only 8 in 20mt!
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:50,000 USD does not go too far in setting up a successful porn studio.
You would need to work very hard, have lots of the right connections, and contacts, and some prior experiences.
Personally, I actually think an absolute minimum of 100,000 USD...
dap-addict wrote:xxxVIPERxxx wrote:50,000 USD does not go too far in setting up a successful porn studio.
You would need to work very hard, have lots of the right connections, and contacts, and some prior experiences.
Personally, I actually think an absolute minimum of 100,000 USD...
I do agree that 50000 is the absolute minimum, but OP idea is that car purchase based because this is about the money I have saved and could dispense of easily otherwise. I also think this is an option that might apply to some other porn fans dreaming of their own studio as well, i.e. you plan to buy something big you actually need in RL but you could postpone that and invest money in porn production instead.
I have to confess that I was close to vote for buy a few 1000 more DAPs for my porn collection instead.
Now, thanks everybody so far for your brainstorm input!
Most important idea is of chimps who made me realize that I need to shoot more porn to give such an endeavor a chance also in business terms, just in order to re-finance year 2026/7 shootings ideally. Also chimpy is right about shooting a girl really known just to also acquire a certain notoriety. I dont think she has to be in the Lana Roades ligue, but a Kristy Black return or Eden Ivy DAPbreakin' should be possible to finance. Both wouldn't do it just at the Prague DAP going rate at this point in their career ofc. Eden would ask actually for more investment than Kristy I guess.
Anyway, I checked by finances beyond the Golf 8 or an Audi S3 plans and I'd be ready to grab another 15k$ to get to a more stable starting ground.
For this amount I'd try to shoot 24 scenes in next 12mt, 2 every month to be released, but saveing money with solo anal dildo and fisting scenes produced much cheaper than b/g. I'd opt now for 12 DAP scenes warmed-up by 4-6 single anal scenes and 6-8 solo anal workouts, both options just to professionally stretch out and prepare for DAP shot 2 days later.
So, voting from now, think you'd rather have 65000$ at disposal than 50000$ only. It's not much money still, Viper, I know, but not many civilians have 100k to spare you know.
Chimpy.677 wrote:2) That they are young (18 to 21 years old is ideal).
2) That they have their first time doing a DP / DAP, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, whenever a new and young girl does her first DP / DAP it attracts a lot of attention from clients or potential clients, it is also a huge advertising method.
dap-addict wrote:Anyway, I think I'd try to go for 1-2 really big blast DAPbreakin's still available for pretty fair fees hopefully like the already mentioned Eden Ivy or Cherry Kiss for instance. And in-between shoot 10 DAP with no-big-risk girls available for a good fee basically.Chimpy.677 wrote:whenever a new and young girl does her first DP / DAP it attracts a lot of attention from clients or potential clients, it is also a huge advertising method.
dap-addict wrote:Of course completely new girls will be high risk DAP failure rather, therefore better opt for low fee options! This said fee has always to be fair, girl has to feel she's earning good money, thats crucial!
Chimpy.677 wrote:[color=#0040FF][size=150]For me it is a big mistake to bring girls who have already done several DP/DAP scenes, that is precisely what has now led AV to be in a crisis, always having the same girls over and over again until they are fed up. What people want is:
1) New and beautiful girls.
2) That they are young (18 to 21 years old is ideal).
dap-addict wrote:Chimpy.677 wrote:[color=#0040FF][size=150]For me it is a big mistake to bring girls who have already done several DP/DAP scenes, that is precisely what has now led AV to be in a crisis, always having the same girls over and over again until they are fed up. What people want is:
1) New and beautiful girls.
2) That they are young (18 to 21 years old is ideal).
Chimpy, this is good and nice if you have 100000$ or more, but if finances are limited you cant risk young rookie girls really, at least not for DAP and also not for DP basically for the same reason I just try to explain:
You have to be aware that a 3on1 to 5on1 scene creates a lot of base costs beyond the girls sex act fee. You need to pay multiple studs, you need a studio and be it a rented flat only, it has to be at least 1 large room for suitable camera angles, ie. you spend more money than for just a hotel room. You need MU, lighting and camera. This all will easily exceed 3k$ [b]before you even have shot that DP/DAP as you call it.
Now if an inexperienced young beautiful rookie girl runs into trouble performing that DAP me you, she just doenst get payed or payed much much less, but the base costs stay the same. You may try to safe the situation by giving her lots of breaks and also re-lubeing, but if you are soon known for long working hours of 6 or even 9 instead of 3 hours studs will steer away from your studio.
At a budget of 50-65000$ for 24 scenes in 1 year you cant allow even 1 DAP failure! You are also not in a position to release broken up scenes as GIO can because you are too unknown. Every DAP shot you plan and arrange has to work out at least passable!
Chimpy.677 wrote:Speaking about reducing production costs, I always thought that the best and simplest thing for that would be to only hire 2 or 3 male actors per scene, I mean, more male actors does not mean a better scene, on the contrary it can end up being worse.
netzerkaiser wrote:Nah, get a decent car - the rest will follow. I got a 2003 Subaru Impreza for 5 grand 3 years ago, & its just fine.
netzerkaiser wrote:Nah, get a decent car - the rest will follow. I got a 2003 Subaru Impreza for 5 grand 3 years ago, & its just fine.
doraemon_washington wrote:netzerkaiser wrote:Nah, get a decent car - the rest will follow. I got a 2003 Subaru Impreza for 5 grand 3 years ago, & its just fine.
porn is more important than cars
you blasphemous
go watch car movie
netzerkaiser wrote:doraemon_washington wrote:netzerkaiser wrote:Nah, get a decent car - the rest will follow. I got a 2003 Subaru Impreza for 5 grand 3 years ago, & its just fine.
porn is more important than cars
you blasphemous
go watch car movie
Man your incredible humour | take on life always cracks me up! Kudos!
doraemon_washington wrote:wow 50000 car
this dap-addict seems quite wealthy
dap-addict wrote:doraemon_washington wrote:wow 50000 car
this dap-addict seems quite wealthy
You both guys are funny! LOL!
No rich at all, just considering options...
And new car on some terms can be tax deducted, but just to simply drive I could also take the 2003 Subaru.
Anyway, it's a set up for a poll - but also a way to consider options more close to reality and real costs. Most porn users and fans seem to really live in a dream world as far as costs of the commodity and product they consume is concerned.
dap-addict wrote:Chimpy.677 wrote:Speaking about reducing production costs, I always thought that the best and simplest thing for that would be to only hire 2 or 3 male actors per scene, I mean, more male actors does not mean a better scene, on the contrary it can end up being worse.
Chimpy, I actually did my investment simulation based on 3 studs only. Only 2 studs is also an option ofc. Main reason ofc was cutting costs since good male actors aren't really cheap anymore either. But as you rightly point out more actors often make a scene worse even. I choose 3 studs to somehow still sort of hit the popular gangbang theme, but not make shooting too complicated.
Many porn fans dont see that the more studs are on set, the more difficult it is to coordinate that scene for director. Of course it works pretty good with same core teams of 5 studs at AGO or GIO, but especially with GIO BBC team you can spot problems when a new BBC import has just arrived.
For this reason I'd aim at same 3 studs ideally for all 12 DAPs planned. But reality will probabely be that teams will vary because not all actors will be free every 2nd month for a 1-week shooting session.
jupiter57 wrote:If you're trying to train up a whole new DAP team by yourself, without the benefit of having been a performer experienced in the act, like Giorgio or Angelo, it could prove difficult.
visigoth2020260 wrote:A decent place to shoot our scenes goes for 250 to 400 USD a month.
models from $100 upward.
(...)
In case we needed Colombian or Brazilian models, the round trip is about 300 USD; only a passport is needed, and we can accommodate them in our studio for their stay.
dap-addict wrote:n the current Prague going rates
visigoth2020260 wrote:Come over to my land and let's make elite scenes.
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