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3 updates 2 shitty

Postby rikkids1234 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:42 am

The update with Anna is fine the other 2 are lame !!!

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:09 am

Or more accurately, some updates you and the vast majority like and some many others will enjoy. We already know the story with the NRA scenes being released and now First Gape lives up to it's name and does just that, again.


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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby drevokocur66 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:42 am

It is just business.

Most customers will probably purchase one scene per day or less. So lets say LP releases 3 high quality scenes. Most will pic the best of the three, and buy that one. Why would LP release 3 high cost scenes and have them compete against each other. You release one good scene along with crap, which costs way less to produce. It also guarantees the quality scene good sales as it is the one most likely picked. The crappy scenes are there to give the illusion of choice, lower the production costs and set up the cost for the higher quality scene. If the crappy scene is (for example) 2 or 3 tickets, you will most likely pay few tickets more for the better scene, and if you pick the crappy scene the profit is the same. So it is a win win for LP, it is just business.
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby kidloco2 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:55 am

drevokocur: Nicely said.

But this time I disagree with OP. Regardning to Salvo Visali's scenes (aka First Gape Studio), who is BTW the great director / cameraman who
shot if not most than many of Russian anal scenes for different websites and movie studios in SBP's 200x-201x era and cooperated with GG and Omar Galanti.
I think it definitely has its place here one time a week. This way we can see popular 1on1 or 2on1 anal scene with usually new Russian girl.

I agree the scene should be more anal heavy intensive and gape focused. Even some DAP wouldn't hurt, but for those who don't like DAP could be a way to have a nice anal scene.
I see it as a replacement for classic anal scenes shot circa 2010-12.
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby kidloco2 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:00 am

I agree NR scenes should NOT be counted as regular updates. It's old already x-times released stuff and should be FREE (not even 1 TKT).

With two new studios (IV, FM) I think we should have every day:
One premium scene (be it expensive/exclusive Gonzo or GG scene)
Two regular scenes (from IV, FM or cheaper Gonzo/GG or SAL scene)
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby dap-addict » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:37 am

kidloco2 wrote:I agree the scene should be more anal heavy intensive and gape focused. Even some DAP wouldn't hurt, but for those who don't like DAP could be a way to have a nice anal scene.
I see it as a replacement for classic anal scenes shot circa 2010-12.

SAL is a real update, not just a filler!
Just that this last scene is a misunderstanding as its not LP anal standards.
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby avanfurwet » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:54 am

If this thread is about last night's update, I don't understand what the complaints are about? It looks like a standard LP nightly update.
Often I don't find anything I like in a particular night's update. A few times I want 2 or even 3 scenes from the same night. I think that's normal for any site.

Anna De Ville Gonzo scene - looks OK to me but she's not my type. Price looks normal. The usual suspects will complain about her male screen partners who I guess were hired partly to communicate with the American actress.
Sofy Soul 1st Gape scene - I bought immediately. Price looks reasonable.
Lesia No Rest scene - Shows for me as a free extra. What's not to like?

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby dap-addict » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:13 pm

Anna De Ville DAP - instant buy
Sofy Soul 1st Gape scene - no STA and too much pussy fucking = skip
Lesia No Rest scene - free scene, whats bad, the more as the anal is quite good

Nothing to complain especially using such harsh words if you dont seem to almost hate LP in 2016 as OP does. :mad: :confused:
Btw, there is some logic in drevokocur66's resoning, though.
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby avanfurwet » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:42 pm

dap-addict wrote:Anna De Ville DAP - instant buy
Sofy Soul 1st Gape scene - no STA and too much pussy fucking = skip
Lesia No Rest scene - free scene, whats bad, the more as the anal is quite good

Nothing to complain especially using such harsh words if you dont seem to almost hate LP in 2016 as OP does. :mad: :confused:
Btw, there is some logic in drevokocur66's resoning, though.


What people write: There are 3 scenes and 2 of them are shit.
What people mean: There are 3 scenes and 2 of them don't feature exactly my choice of model, costume, setting and action so they must be shit.

I don't think LP coordinate release of scenes by studios to try to make 1 scene look good at the expense of others. I think that's just a conspiracy theory.
Every time that happened one studio would "win" and another would feel victimised.
Also, IDK the sales curve for new scenes over time but I guess they spike on day 1 and continue high for a few days and then tail off. If so it makes no sense to try to compete for sales just on the night of release. Not every customer is tuning in every night. Not every customer is only looking for the newest content.
I sometimes come back to buy scenes days or weeks later for some reason or another.

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby dap-addict » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:54 pm

Mmmh, one would think the more and the better scenes the better.
But some posts by xxx about gonzo backlog make me wonder wheter drevokur is all that wrong. Also IV seems way designed to support gonzo rather than just be a studio of its own fully. Dont get me wrong, but at this very moment the idea doenst seem like publishing as many scenes per day as possible but rather 1-2 really good LP-style ones per day. Besindes, its nothing about conspiracy theory but rather sales researches. Id happily buy 2-3 scenes per day, but I am in a minority I think.
Also for heavy LP porn consumers there is no suitable membership offer really, which again shows that most of us just dont spend much more than 40 tkts/mt.
I hope I am wrong of course and soon we'll have a deluxe membership offering 100tkts/month. ;)
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby avanfurwet » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:49 pm

dap-addict wrote:Mmmh, one would think the more and the better scenes the better.
But some posts by xxx about gonzo backlog make me wonder wheter drevokur is all that wrong. Also IV seems way designed to support gonzo rather than just be a studio of its own fully. Dont get me wrong, but at this very moment the idea doenst seem like publishing as many scenes per day as possible but rather 1-2 really good LP-style ones per day. Besindes, its nothing about conspiracy theory but rather sales researches. Id happily buy 2-3 scenes per day, but I am in a minority I think.
Also for heavy LP porn consumers there is no suitable membership offer really, which again shows that most of us just dont spend much more than 40 tkts/mt.
I hope I am wrong of course and soon we'll have a deluxe membership offering 100tkts/month. ;)


I hope xxx will sell you a deluxe membership as a VIP customer with extra privileges :)

Anyway, drevokocur said "the crappy scenes are there to give the illusion of choice" which IMO is a conspiracy theory. But I think LP just want to maximise their profits like any business and will price as high as they think the market will bear. Some customers bitch about high tkt prices per scene, so LP offer some lower priced lines from 1st Gape or whoever.

I would have included IV as lower priced but recently LP seem to ramp up the prices for the same quality of IV scene which was previously sold much cheaper.

I agree LP are not trying to publish 2-3 high-priced top-of-the-line scenes every day. xxx has said he thinks studios were releasing too much too quickly. So I guess he thinks LP can make more money overall by releasing more slowly.

That said IDK how it makes business sense to be sitting on 1 years worth of updates for which the models do not have indefinite recognition and popularity.
The scenes must have a shelf-life like any product.

Also, what if the market moves to "8k" HD, or finally achieves a popular 3D technology, or something else? It would be like getting caught with a warehouse full of VHS tapes when the market moved to DVD.

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby dap-addict » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:22 pm

Ticket prices reflect usually in a very fair way the amount of money invested into shooting a scene.
But as GIO and SOS basically just use LP platorm to sell their scenes they have to ask for more tkts since they also have to pay the LP platform.
In the same way IV and FM scenes were first cheaper as part of an introduction price.
FG produces quite cheap scenes in Piter and you sure noticed that most is 1on1 which is of course much cheaper than the usual gonzo 3on1 or GIO 5on1.
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby Ass2Die4464 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:27 pm

drevokocur66 wrote:It is just business.

Most customers will probably purchase one scene per day or less. So lets say LP releases 3 high quality scenes. Most will pic the best of the three, and buy that one. Why would LP release 3 high cost scenes and have them compete against each other. You release one good scene along with crap, which costs way less to produce. It also guarantees the quality scene good sales as it is the one most likely picked. The crappy scenes are there to give the illusion of choice, lower the production costs and set up the cost for the higher quality scene. If the crappy scene is (for example) 2 or 3 tickets, you will most likely pay few tickets more for the better scene, and if you pick the crappy scene the profit is the same. So it is a win win for LP, it is just business.


+1,000,0000 agree, especially with the "illusion of choice"!

The problem is simple though for LP to fix about the to much high quality scenes being released. Simply stop giving the scenes away for free after there self-imposed time period. We all should know that LP metrics pointed out many customers were probably waiting for scenes to be free that weren't there primary fetish before downloading. I mean why not if the system is setup this way might as well take advantage of it. So there initial fix was increase the length of the self-imposed time period to wait but problem is that the scenes should not be free to begin with. I thought the whole concept of this site was pay for what you love so more if it will be shot (with in LP decency guidelines).

avanfurwet wrote:That said IDK how it makes business sense to be sitting on 1 years worth of updates for which the models do not have indefinite recognition and popularity.
The scenes must have a shelf-life like any product.

Also, what if the market moves to "8k" HD, or finally achieves a popular 3D technology, or something else? It would be like getting caught with a warehouse full of VHS tapes when the market moved to DVD.

+1,000,000 agree, especially with the shelf-life!

I remember in one of the many threads in this or Sineplex forum when LP first launched. XXX said that we don't have a coming soon section because we released scenes as soon as we are done editing them. It is wasted effort to create trailers for the coming soon section because it delays releases, what happened to that thought process. Why are we now holding onto content for years that it seems customers want to see. I think it all goes back to that decision to make scenes free after a self-imposed time period. Obviously at any moment without warning that time period can increased as it has so why not get rid of it and release the quality stuff that members want to see because they will have to buy it now or 5 years from now it just depends when they want to see it. Content, quality and video technology should determine price of the scene not self-imposed time period. If someone says it helps with piracy that is bullshit because a lot more of LP scenes are being pirated now. As soon as LP got rid of attestation the piracy sky rocketed (but I digress as this is another topic for another thread and time).

Simple solution:
Get rid of the free after a time period and release what we assume is quality content! When you have Rossella Visconti on [spam] telling fans that they have done unique scenes like TAP but LP has not released it yet makes it sound like LP is taking a page out of the old, fat, hairy, bald pig that is hung like a baby mouse book. Just fucking sad, keep leading LP don't follow!

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby Kriss1986 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:40 pm

avanfurwet wrote:If this thread is about last night's update, I don't understand what the complaints are about? It looks like a standard LP nightly update.
Often I don't find anything I like in a particular night's update. A few times I want 2 or even 3 scenes from the same night. I think that's normal for any site.

Anna De Ville Gonzo scene - looks OK to me but she's not my type. Price looks normal. The usual suspects will complain about her male screen partners who I guess were hired partly to communicate with the American actress.
Sofy Soul 1st Gape scene - I bought immediately. Price looks reasonable.
Lesia No Rest scene - Shows for me as a free extra. What's not to like?


It looks quite normal but anyway this time I will skip all. BTW Anna's scene looks fine, just she isn't in my type.
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby kidloco2 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:16 pm

drevokocur's arguments are pinpoint, there's no conspiracy theory behind, it's just logic.

We already know that LP company is in a need of a lots of money (partially to cover widespread piracy, partially due to legal payments, also particular studios demand more), so they wisely try to increase income from the customers as much as they can.

- so they unblocked the attestation stage
- so they cut some niches out (piss) to attract more customers around the world
- so they prolonged time for ex-premium scenes by 6 months
- so they slowly start to rise per scene price
- so they cut out free scenes make them 1 or even 1.5 TKT
- so they acquired more studios to have broader offer (to our pleasure)
- so they cut the number of premium scene updates / day and put out some filler scenes instead
- so they acquired some famous us stars to attract customers and have a reason to make a ridiculous price TKT for it to enable even more price rising for regular non-us scenes
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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby Boshanks » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:27 pm

Ass2Die4464 wrote:
avanfurwet wrote:That said IDK how it makes business sense to be sitting on 1 years worth of updates for which the models do not have indefinite recognition and popularity.
The scenes must have a shelf-life like any product.

Also, what if the market moves to "8k" HD, or finally achieves a popular 3D technology, or something else? It would be like getting caught with a warehouse full of VHS tapes when the market moved to DVD.


+1,000,000 agree, especially with the shelf-life!

I remember in one of the many threads in this or Sineplex forum when LP first launched. XXX said that we don't have a coming soon section because we released scenes as soon as we are done editing them. It is wasted effort to create trailers for the coming soon section because it delays releases, what happened to that thought process. Why are we now holding onto content for years that it seems customers want to see.


After waiting 17 months for the Arwen Gold and Linda Sweet scene, I can relate to these points. The problem is, Gonzo themselves produce 2 to 3 scenes a day I believe, if we take the lower number and look at a daily release, they can't help but have a stockpile of at least 300+ scenes a year.

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby avanfurwet » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:29 am

Boshanks wrote:
Ass2Die4464 wrote:
avanfurwet wrote:That said IDK how it makes business sense to be sitting on 1 years worth of updates for which the models do not have indefinite recognition and popularity.
The scenes must have a shelf-life like any product.

Also, what if the market moves to "8k" HD, or finally achieves a popular 3D technology, or something else? It would be like getting caught with a warehouse full of VHS tapes when the market moved to DVD.


+1,000,000 agree, especially with the shelf-life!

I remember in one of the many threads in this or Sineplex forum when LP first launched. XXX said that we don't have a coming soon section because we released scenes as soon as we are done editing them. It is wasted effort to create trailers for the coming soon section because it delays releases, what happened to that thought process. Why are we now holding onto content for years that it seems customers want to see.


After waiting 17 months for the Arwen Gold and Linda Sweet scene, I can relate to these points. The problem is, Gonzo themselves produce 2 to 3 scenes a day I believe, if we take the lower number and look at a daily release, they can't help but have a stockpile of at least 300+ scenes a year.


Do Gonzo make scenes for any other publisher except LP?
In the same way that GG also shoots for Wicked Pictures, Nubiles etc?

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby Boshanks » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:55 am

Not that I'm aware. I would have thought a mention of another publisher would have popped up by now, especially from one of the more active contributors to the forum like John or Gapefan. If xxx reads this perhaps he'll provide us with some insight on the topic, he posted recently that LP have enough releases in stock to cover the whole of next year :eek:

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Re: 3 updates 2 shitty

Postby Kriss1986 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:49 pm

Boshanks wrote:Not that I'm aware. I would have thought a mention of another publisher would have popped up by now, especially from one of the more active contributors to the forum like John or Gapefan. If xxx reads this perhaps he'll provide us with some insight on the topic, he posted recently that LP have enough releases in stock to cover the whole of next year :eek:


I suppose they have a lot of unreleased scenes in the queue, which is sometimes really annoying - you know waiting and waiting and waiting indefinitely to see some scenes :(.
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