where are all the new babes? Where are they gone?

[netzerkaiser]

I could & did tell you this 3 years ago.

Only very few beauties interested in DAP, absusive scenes etc,

but of course, no one listened..

Now you have what you have.

[isis111]

crisis, they film the same crap with the same actresses, while stupid people will buy the same crap, this trend will continue, I like how directors sell crap and fans spend their hard earned money to eat this crap

[netzerkaiser]

crisis, they film the same crap with the same actresses, while stupid people will buy the same crap, this trend will continue, I like how directors sell crap and fans spend their hard earned money to eat this crap

I mean surely this began with 3-4 people imagining 1000's of guys shared their fucked up fantasies, ignoring the norms, trying to push this on us... & not even asking what the babes think... it defies belief?

Well reap what you sow, no?

[netzerkaiser]

Man, I respect Girgio, XXX, etc but if anyone had to have listened to me 3 years ago it would've been a lot less painful, video explains in full:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlGcYGn0NOQ

[YuriyProneBone]

Plenty of new hotties in Russian and South American studios. It's just in Czech Republic where the girls are basically the same ones from 5 years ago, which is fine, many of those girls are still top hotties.

[bake0213]

I could & did tell you this 3 years ago.

Only very few beauties interested in DAP, absusive scenes etc,

but of course, no one listened..

Now you have what you have.

No, the new girls are on OnlyScams.com. They found that there will always be simps who are willing to pay for little to nothing even if they don't get to see previews in advance. As long as the simps continue to pay, the studios will be fighting an uphill battle.

[patosucio]

I feel like I'm constantly seeing new babes...Natasha Teen's studio immediately comes to mind. Yummy Estudios, Latin Teens, VG, EKS, AGO...all of these studios seem to be doing a great job of finding new talent. Maybe GG isn't bringing in a lot of first timers, but his output is prolific, and each scene clearly has an incredible amount of time and care put into it, from the director, to the talent, to the pre- and post-production folks...GG is the big league. When a girl gets cast for a GG scene for the first time now, you can bet on her being ready to shine

Also important to recognize what a crazy time to be alive it is right now...the rise of OF, war in Europe and the Middle East, mass emigrations in Central and South America, eye-popping inflation in the US, (as an example: where I live, the cost of housing has gone up 70% compared to pre-COVID (Q3 2023 vs Q3 2019, source: U.S. Federal Housing Finance Agency, All-Transactions House Price Index for [AMERICA'S SCROTUM], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis). Meanwhile, the average private-sector employee's pay has only increased by 23.2% over the same time frame).

All of these factors must add significant extra complexity to the already needle-in-a-haystack nature of recruiting new talent. Really, when you think about it, the fact that we get as many great scenes as we do is nothing short of a small miracle!

I hope this manifesto helps, and I send my best wishes to you, and everything and everyone in your life, netzer. Let's try to focus on the positives (believe me, I struggle with that myself - which is why I felt compelled to write this while in a rare, no doom-and-gloom mindset, to help others and myself)

Netzerkaiser, (and anyone else who might be reading this) I send you my love <3 <3 <3

[isis666xxx]

I send you my love <3 <3 <3

i send you my love too my dear

i love you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Iddaoeeok]

the rise of OF

Took me ages to figure out that this was!

[ArcanaCaelestia]

the rise of OF

Took me ages to figure out that this was!

Decline started with the popularity of Instagr*m, not OF.

[patosucio]

Is there porn on the 'gram? Im not very familiar with that app so I have no idea, I'm pretty surprised if that's the case

[ArcanaCaelestia]

Is there porn on the 'gram? Im not very familiar with that app so I have no idea, I'm pretty surprised if that's the case

No, but before gram there was no way to easily monetize the sex appeal. You could either got to modelling or entertainment (Hollywood, Pop music) or do porn. Then gram happened and good looking women started to get paid by doing selfies and other kind of photos/videos. More so, the modelling standards were thrown out of the window, meaning all the big assed, big boobed who were rejected before become a valuable commodity and become less rare in porn. Gram like OF operates on the same parasocial mechanism. OF just added subscription and pornographic content.

[ArcanaCaelestia]

Is there porn on the 'gram? Im not very familiar with that app so I have no idea, I'm pretty surprised if that's the case

No, but before gram there was no way to easily monetize the sex appeal. You could either got to modelling or entertainment (Hollywood, Pop music) or do porn. Then gram happened and good looking women started to get paid by doing selfies and other kind of photos/videos. More so, the modelling standards were thrown out of the window, meaning all the big assed, big boobed who were rejected before become a valuable commodity and become less rare in porn. Gram like OF operates on the same parasocial mechanism. OF just added subscription and pornographic content.

more rare*

[nilis]

I could & did tell you this 3 years ago.

Only very few beauties interested in DAP, absusive scenes etc,

but of course, no one listened..

Now you have what you have.

The point you're trying to make being that...?

(Seriously asking though)

[netzerkaiser]

I could & did tell you this 3 years ago.

Only very few beauties interested in DAP, absusive scenes etc,

but of course, no one listened..

Now you have what you have.

The point you're trying to make being that...?

(Seriously asking though)

I think it just got too extreme, too niche in tastes. That left other studios to capitalize on the more moderate stuff. I know someone else said, well, you have Pornworld & Private on the same menu, but it's not the same. LP style around 2012-2017 was generally masterful. That's just my opinion of course.

[nilis]

I could & did tell you this 3 years ago.

Only very few beauties interested in DAP, absusive scenes etc,

but of course, no one listened..

Now you have what you have.

The point you're trying to make being that...?

(Seriously asking though)

I think it just got too extreme, too niche in tastes. That left other studios to capitalize on the more moderate stuff. I know someone else said, well, you have Pornworld & Private on the same menu, but it's not the same. LP style around 2012-2017 was generally masterful. That's just my opinion of course.

Ok, I get it now. And yes, maybe the pool of girls willing to commit to such hardcore scenes is running low now. Porn bussiness model is fastly changing as it's been stressed in many topics, and therefore AV will have to adapt. Or maybe users should, opting for a more diverse diet...

[netzerkaiser]

I think it just got too extreme, too niche in tastes. That left other studios to capitalize on the more moderate stuff. I know someone else said, well, you have Pornworld & Private on the same menu, but it's not the same. LP style around 2012-2017 was generally masterful. That's just my opinion of course.[/quote]

Ok, I get it now. And yes, maybe the pool of girls willing to commit to such hardcore scenes is running low now. Porn bussiness model is fastly changing as it's been stressed in many topics, and therefore AV will have to adapt. Or maybe users should, opting for a more diverse diet...[/quote]

Thanks for kind response. I think it has to be something like that. I mean there were always jobs in Czech Republic for past 15 years at least - also girls knew the stuff was going to be on the public internet. Yet the girls kept coming.

I think it was a very different situation in the mid-late 90's, maybe even early 2000's, when Hungary & Czech Republic were poor, & opportunities in life much less... also at that time many girls had no idea the scenes would live on to such exposure on the internet. I'm sure many just thought that the scenes would disappear on DVD or video & people they knew in the day to day life would never know.

[Chimpy.677]

I have already said it a million times... for several years the users themselves with ugly and strange tastes destroyed the page.

1) They always want the same actress over and over again even if she has literally 1000 scenes doing the exact same thing.

2) If young and pretty girls appear, they ignore them to continue asking for the same 10 actresses as always. They have a totally distorted sense of taste.

3) The strange preference of users for urine, prolapse, vomiting, etc. scares away novice girls. But if they don't do such scenes here, nobody wants them. Which ends up making all the big studios do these practices.....
But what happens is that most of the world's porn consumers hate that kind of content, I mean, urine, prolapsing, vomiting, etc. IT IS A NICHE PRODUCT, it's not made for everyone, that's why many people stop consuming it and go to more "normal" porn, that's why GONZO had his golden age all over the WORLD, when he made scenes with young girls and new ones with the classic 3on1 or 4on1 scenes, strong DP/DAP but that didn't go out of the classic porn format and it was porn aimed to all kind of consumers.

[sumacs3]

OF + COVID = Where are all the new (studio) babes?

[netzerkaiser]

I have already said it a million times... for several years the users themselves with ugly and strange tastes destroyed the page.

1) They always want the same actress over and over again even if she has literally 1000 scenes doing the exact same thing.

2) If young and pretty girls appear, they ignore them to continue asking for the same 10 actresses as always. They have a totally distorted sense of taste.

3) The strange preference of users for urine, prolapse, vomiting, etc. scares away novice girls. But if they don't do such scenes here, nobody wants them. Which ends up making all the big studios do these practices.....
But what happens is that most of the world's porn consumers hate that kind of content, I mean, urine, prolapsing, vomiting, etc. IT IS A NICHE PRODUCT, it's not made for everyone, that's why many people stop consuming it and go to more "normal" porn, that's why GONZO had his golden age all over the WORLD, when he made scenes with young girls and new ones with the classic 3on1 or 4on1 scenes, strong DP/DAP but that didn't go out of the classic porn format and it was porn aimed to all kind of consumers.

+ 1

[Iddaoeeok]

I remember when the owner of LP/AV, back when he used to occasionally contribute to the forum, would say the reason he didn't want piss scenes, back when he didn't want piss scenes, was because he didn't want the site to be a niche site for extreme fetishists. Now look where we are. (By the way, I don't mind the occasional piss scene myself).

[netzerkaiser]

I remember when the owner of LP/AV, back when he used to occasionally contribute to the forum, would say the reason he didn't want piss scenes, back when he didn't want piss scenes, was because he didn't want the site to be a niche site for extreme fetishists. Now look where we are. (By the way, I don't mind the occasional piss scene myself).

This line... "niche site for extreme fetishists' is so eloquent, well done man, you put something there that I couldn't express. Most of us I think are just ordinary guys who fantasize about seeing the remote bespectacled local attractive librarian or bank clerk in a fantasy situation of regular sexual activity. No more no less, just innocent if you like, heterosexual inclination. So beautifully & economically expressed, Iddaoeek.

[netzerkaiser]

I remember when the owner of LP/AV, back when he used to occasionally contribute to the forum, would say the reason he didn't want piss scenes, back when he didn't want piss scenes, was because he didn't want the site to be a niche site for extreme fetishists. Now look where we are. (By the way, I don't mind the occasional piss scene myself).

This line... "niche site for extreme fetishists' is so eloquent, well done man, you put something there that I couldn't express. Most of us I think are just ordinary guys who fantasize about seeing the remote bespectacled local attractive librarian or bank clerk in a fantasy situation of regular sexual activity. No more no less, just innocent if you like, heterosexual inclination. So beautifully & economically expressed, Iddaoeek.

Kinda like this masterful scenario:

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/42801

[dap-addict]

I could & did tell you this 3 years ago.

Only very few beauties interested in DAP, absusive scenes etc,

but of course, no one listened..

Now you have what you have.

Makes you seem very prophetic, netzer!
But as we all know - you included! - it's more complex than retiring to mid 1990ties pre-internet nostalgia cultivating less extreme porn - with still having Rocco and his toilet flush scenes.
First of all: Are there really no new girls at AGO, NTP, Yummy, Mambo Perv, NRX, EKS, VK?
Than add to this answer:
Covid
OFy
Fansly
even IG, yes, directing to OFy, Fansly etc.

[sumacs3]

Hi dap-addict,
So basically re-routing!
A whole new meaning to Sex Trafficking!

[Jocke]

I have a different take!

The flow of new talent is on average about the same. We get new fresh girls who disappear quickly and we get porn stars who are building a career. The reasons are many but one can speculate that many new girls didn't find what they were looking for or never intended to stay. The women who do work hard to stay relevant often manage to do so. There are hundreds of pornstars with decade long careers and nobody complains, "oh no not another Reily Reid or Megan Rain scene".

Actually I miss many LP stars more than I long for the new girls.

Arwen Gold, Alysa Gap, Polly Petrova, Lola Taylor, Tina Hot, Barbie Sins, Megan Venturi, Rita Rush, Anita Bellini, Sasha Zima, Angel Piaff....

Netzerkaiser who prefers vintage porn isn't the one I expected to complain about lack of new girls?

[netzerkaiser]

I have a different take!

The flow of new talent is on average about the same. We get new fresh girls who disappear quickly and we get porn stars who are building a career. The reasons are many but one can speculate that many new girls didn't find what they were looking for or never intended to stay. The women who do work hard to stay relevant often manage to do so. There are hundreds of pornstars with decade long careers and nobody complains, "oh no not another Reily Reid or Megan Rain scene".

Actually I miss many LP stars more than I long for the new girls.

Arwen Gold, Alysa Gap, Polly Petrova, Lola Taylor, Tina Hot, Barbie Sins, Megan Venturi, Rita Rush, Anita Bellini, Sasha Zima, Angel Piaff....

Netzerkaiser who prefers vintage porn isn't the one I expected to complain about lack of new girls?

Thanks, I think you've hit on something here re: myself. I'm just not into the Latina look, secondly while the Russian ladies still are coming & are still gorgeous, it just seems so abusive that its not even sexual to a normal guy any more. I mean where is it going? The last video trailer I saw of Sofia Weber was a load of douches blowing off in her face. This is kind of obscene to me. Its not sexual, not least vanilla heterosexual, which is all I am or ever wish to be.

[Iddaoeeok]

Thanks, I think you've hit on something here re: myself. I'm just not into the Latina look, secondly while the Russian ladies still are coming & are still gorgeous, it just seems so abusive that its not even sexual to a normal guy any more. I mean where is it going? The last video trailer I saw of Sofia Weber was a load of douches blowing off in her face. This is kind of obscene to me. Its not sexual, not least vanilla heterosexual, which is all I am or ever wish to be.

Yes, Latina girls are nice but, I don't really know why, they don't really do it for me either. The cheap tattoos so many of them have don't really help.

As for the young Russian girls, for sure they are pretty but they are rarely presented in a way that capitalizes on their good looks, and I think the reason for that is that whoever is producing this content doesn't really care that much about how the girls look, they're just a bunch of interchangeable holes to be penetrated. Everything is so cheap and trashy, the girls look bored or confused and the male talent are neanderthals. So the girls shoot dozens of scenes quickly and then disappear, never to be seen again. Use them, abuse them, lose them.

Basically I like porn with a modicum of professionalism and glamour, which you don't get from either the Latina or Russian studios.

[ArcanaCaelestia]

The money available in porn is limited. I would rather have the best talents and shower them with money rather than have a new girl every week. It is still a heavily stigmatized profession and shooting few scenes for scraps is the worst decision you can make. Hence, I dislike Natasha Teen Studio shuffling through the girls. Since there are only two studios in Columbia, girls barely have any options. They are being put in precarious situation and simply have to accept lower pay and more hardcore propositions if they want to perform. Natasha herself started as a camgirl performing multi hour long penetrations. It is a shitty way to live.

[YuriyProneBone]

One thing I'm happy is that there are not that many pantyhoses anymore. I really hate that look. It makes young girls try to look like grandmas.

Sometimes they have stockings and that is annoying too, we are not in the 80s, make it look like 2020s at least.

If you are going to use lingerie make it elegant.

It's easy.

Bad:

Good:

Bad:

39935960111_f53eb7bdb5_z.jpg (46.51 KiB) Viewed 4895 times

Good:

And if you want to make it easier just go full naked, you can never go wrong with just full naked. Full nude is always good.

[Jocke]

I have a different take!

The flow of new talent is on average about the same. We get new fresh girls who disappear quickly and we get porn stars who are building a career. The reasons are many but one can speculate that many new girls didn't find what they were looking for or never intended to stay. The women who do work hard to stay relevant often manage to do so. There are hundreds of pornstars with decade long careers and nobody complains, "oh no not another Reily Reid or Megan Rain scene".

Actually I miss many LP stars more than I long for the new girls.

Arwen Gold, Alysa Gap, Polly Petrova, Lola Taylor, Tina Hot, Barbie Sins, Megan Venturi, Rita Rush, Anita Bellini, Sasha Zima, Angel Piaff....

Netzerkaiser who prefers vintage porn isn't the one I expected to complain about lack of new girls?

Thanks, I think you've hit on something here re: myself. I'm just not into the Latina look, secondly while the Russian ladies still are coming & are still gorgeous, it just seems so abusive that its not even sexual to a normal guy any more. I mean where is it going? The last video trailer I saw of Sofia Weber was a load of douches blowing off in her face. This is kind of obscene to me. Its not sexual, not least vanilla heterosexual, which is all I am or ever wish to be.

NRX is shit but VK is great and with better respect for the girls and a lot more playful.

[squirtjunkie]

my point of view:

The main problem is, that
new girls were waisted in low budget productions, close to amateur- porn.

Give em a proper studio, proper make-up and outfit, and they will start and sell....

Wasted talents dont sell and disapear, not girls fault, its the fault of the producers.

I don't want see an amateur fucked in a standard bedroom or in a bad enlighted living room.This is what most men can have in real live.

Only few girls can make the step to come to the big studios and shoot high quality content before the fans loose their patience.

Therefore wellknown girls are shooted again and again ( what i like!) and sell allways good the high quality produced stuff from the big studios.

[visigoth2020260]

my point of view:

The main problem is, that
new girls were waisted in low budget productions, close to amateur- porn.

Give em a proper studio, proper make-up and outfit, and they will start and sell....

Wasted talents dont sell and disapear, not girls fault, its the fault of the producers.

I don't want see an amateur fucked in a standard bedroom or in a bad enlighted living room.This is what most men can have in real live.

Only few girls can make the step to come to the big studios and shoot high quality content before the fans loose their patience.

Therefore wellknown girls are shooted again and again ( what i like!) and sell allways good the high quality produced stuff from the big studios.

if you only sell sex, penetratios, and all-in-your-face naked models.
All you are doing is competing against the other quadrillion productions similar to yours in all aspects.
You bring new faces, but they don't sell as well as you hoped because you have no perspective and are only relying on the poor model beauty, putting all the pressure on them.

Mr. producer, you are the one with the camera; you are the one who makes them shine.
but it is always easier to blame the models.
and discart potential superstar.

model comes to the studio.
model gets naked.
model verely moves.
model does not speak.
model gets penetrated in various positions.
model does not give a good-bye ending.
Then the producer wants to blame the model when that was all that the producer asked her to do.

If the model were to sing, does she need to be paid extra?
If the model were to be filmed walking on the street, does she need to be paid extra?
If the model were to give a dance, does she need to be paid extra?
If the models were to fallow a line, does she need to be paid extra?

Sorry, mr producer It is your lack of ingenuity.
Today, fucking and obliterating an ass are the norm; get creative before an ass swallows you.

[sumacs3]

Only few girls can make the step to come to the big studios and shoot high quality content before the fans loose their patience.

Therefore wellknown girls are shooted again and again (what i like!) and sell always good the high quality produced stuff from the big studios.

Thanks. Some well-known girls, like Tina Hot (Nina Love), who retired from the big studios after 2014, resumed making studio-quality videos, this time at OF, as customs for her subscribers, including myself. Her customs had fine video quality (1080), good make-up, and wardrobe. It really is up to the girl to deliver the goods, and it is not that difficult to make a high-quality production. But since OF girls do not have to do so, as independents, they commonly do not, as has been indicated in this thread.

My experience is that OF is like the Wild West: You really don't know how things are going to go with a particular model until after you have subscribed. Tina made high-quality customs, and usually within a few days. Guys are afraid to complain to a girl they really like, for fear of getting unsubscribed or seeming like a nuisance. I find that having rapport with a model helps improve their content. But I like to have rapport anyway. It makes for a better experience for both of us. Sometimes I have waited months to receive a custom from a given model. That part is a real pain, but what can you do about it? If she has, in your eyes, a one-of-a-kind look and/or personality to her, then it may be worth it to wait.

Here is a screenshot of Nina from one of her customs she made for me. Thanks.

Tina Hot as Nina Love at OF - Screenshot from a Custom

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[sumacs3]

Important Tidbit:
PB reduced the file size of the Nina screenshot from 110 KB to 41 KB!
The submitted JPG was at 95 quality, and the result was at 75 quality!
Life ain't fair!

[dap-addict]

Some well-known girls, like Tina Hot (Nina Love), who retired from the big studios after 2014, resumed making studio-quality videos, this time at OF, as customs for her subscribers...

Interesting!
Is there any study on how much money can be made in OF by dedicated porn or just nude glamour girls?
It could also help explain why it's so difficult for porn studios situated in EU to scout new girls.

[sumacs3]

Some well-known girls, like Tina Hot (Nina Love), who retired from the big studios after 2014, resumed making studio-quality videos, this time at OF, as customs for her subscribers, including myself. Her customs had fine video quality (1080), good make-up, and wardrobe. . . Tina made high-quality customs, and usually within a few days. Guys are afraid to complain to a girl they really like, for fear of getting unsubscribed or seeming like a nuisance. I find that having rapport with a model helps improve their content. But I like to have rapport anyway. It makes for a better experience for both of us.

Note that Nina no longer offers customs at her OF.
But when she did, she had high production values.
It would be nice if more OF models put real care into their customs and other OF offerings.

[visigoth2020260]

OF, It stinks, no matter how you look at it.
The models make money because they are hardcore fans willing to pay for a glance at their daily activities.
One of the key features of OF is the ability for subscribers to interact directly with creators. Subscribers can send private messages, ask questions, and even make personalized requests, fostering a sense of community and personal connection.

Model speaking, hello guys, my name is XXX today i will be doing such and such My intention is for you guys to like it. Don't forget to support me with your comments. Yes, for you, only for you I will make all these bastards come.
I got what it takes, as she moves her hand to every desireable part of her body.


There are some good gangbangs at OF.
And yes, that content is all over the net; piracy is not hurting them.

Hitchhiking wet is the best at AV.
The future is this: a Netflix-like porn site where content creators produce porn films and series.
visual interaction with the model in daily life activities and extreme hardcore porn. That is a win-win situation.
That is what the public is waiting for.
I know I am.


Not everyone is on OF or Camworld. Most NTF models are cammodels or bar prostitutes.
brokenlatinaswhore Their models are all camwhores, and they boast 126,153,198 views on xvideos.
way more than NTF.
The models are willing and around, but if producers let them go after one or two scenes, you figure they have to make a living.

How do you make many scenes with a model, make money, and get the viewers interested and asking for more.?
Let's decodify my gifs; sure, there is a way. It has been done, and many others do it today.

[isis666xxx]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

thats from perverse family

I LIKE PERVERSE FAMILY SO MUCH

[sumacs3]

Some Other Possibilities:
Comprehensive Image Searches
There is also the use of image searches such as at Yand**, where you can often find a model with a look similar to what you are interested in. This could lead to you joining her site or to simply feasting on free t*be stuff, because you often end up with a model's name. Also, the crop and search feature means you could look for either her body type or her face type.

Big VOD-Download Sites with Price Drops (AdultEmpire, HotMovies, AEBN, etc)
These sites have a huge amount of older material at pretty reasonable prices.
The prices for many of the scenes can be as low as about $1 per scene.
Also, these prices seem to be lower than they used to be.
I recall they were usually a minimum of about $2 a few years ago.

Added Selection of Older Material
Here at PB-AV, we are seeing an increase in older videos that were not here before.
If you look at Tina Hot or Sophie Strauss as just two examples, we see older videos newly available.