A "Clockwork Gang"

[dap-addict]

Didnt I mention, I was asking about part 2, avanfurwet?
Fans get more and more confused.
And, honestly, I think LP advertizing is to blame.

This said, it is clear that this film, all the 3 episodes so far, cost much more than 3 ordinary GIO scenes. Thus its all but fair that they shall cost more tickets.
Great idea and great film so far!

[staygold]

More cons as I saw from the trailer/screens:

1) the movie is too long so anything in 3 parts is a no go

2) silent and passive girls and no signs of talking or doing something, they just STAND AROUND and DO NOTHING AGAIN ???



3) stupid title clockwork is irrelevant

and

4) probably fake cum again

Next time please:

a) MORE with the old gentleman! Make him part of the crew

b) 2 part movie max

c) make girls talk about dicks or cumshots or take selfies or apply make up or whatever, just DONT LET THEM STAND AROUND in silence this is fucking stupid

d) to prove the cum is natural let at least one guy cum into water or champagne and let girl drink it

[avanfurwet]

Didnt I mention, I was asking about part 2, avanfurwet?
Fans get more and more confused.
And, honestly, I think LP advertizing is to blame.

This said, it is clear that this film, all the 3 episodes so far, cost much more than 3 ordinary GIO scenes. Thus its all but fair that they shall cost more tickets.
Great idea and great film so far!

Yes, sorry if I was unclear. My answer is about part 2, I think

So, my answer is about this part : A ClockWork Gang Pilot - Part#2/3 - Kira gets the rest and Belle Gets the GANG GIO255

http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31725/a ... creenshots

This is the episode which features the conclusion of the Kira scene for maybe 38 minutes, and then an intro scene at the end where Belle meets the Clockwork gang and sets up her gangbang scene which I guess will be part 3.

Hope this helps...

[dap-addict]

Ok, but my questions is:
- does Belle already get dapped (DAP = double anal prenetration) in part 2 like that LP add suggests?
- and if not does she get involved in any sex at all in part 2?

If there is no Belle Clair dap footage, not even 1min, in part2 than LP advertizmet of this scene is wrong, or worse.
(This said, me I pay gladly 4tkts for the Kira Thorn dap, 1 tkt for Belle Clare non sex, and 1-2 more for Giorgio Grandi extra investment. But LP should be fair,too!)

[avanfurwet]

More cons as I saw from the trailer/screens:

1) the movie is too long so anything in 3 parts is a no go

2) silent and passive girls and no signs of talking or doing something, they just STAND AROUND and DO NOTHING AGAIN ???



3) stupid title clockwork is irrelevant

and

4) probably fake cum again

Next time please:

a) MORE with the old gentleman! Make him part of the crew

b) 2 part movie max

c) make girls talk about dicks or cumshots or take selfies or apply make up or whatever, just DONT LET THEM STAND AROUND in silence this is fucking stupid

d) to prove the cum is natural let at least one guy cum into water or champagne and let girl drink it

Hi, I guess it's hard for Giorgio to direct everybody and probably operate the camera himself all at the same time. So perhaps he has to keep it simple. The scene seems to flow for long periods without cuts and edits, which I really like, and appreciate the professionalism and attitude of everyone involved.

I do agree with one thing you wrote. The girls supporting/encouraging Kira are all experienced porn actresses, so it would be nice if some of them could do a little more on their own initiative. I like the idea of some of them taking selfies of themselves/each other with each other and with Kira during her scene. Maybe make more use of that fearsome strap-on which Roxy and Ginger were having fun with. That would be a nice addition to any future party scenes

Personally I've no desire to watch a guy cum in a champagne glass, but everyone has their own ideas I guess. I'd much rather watch lovely Kira and her beautiful friends wee in their champagne glasses... but we don't always get everything we want

[avanfurwet]

Ok, but my questions is:
- does Belle already get dapped (DAP = double anal prenetration) in part 2 like that LP add suggests?
- and if not does she get involved in any sex at all in part 2?

Negative. Not in what I consider to be Part 2 anyway. Belle doesn't get beyond topless. It's just a build-up to what I think of as part 3, "coming soon".

If there is no Belle Clair dap footage, not even 1min, in part2 than LP advertizmet of this scene is wrong, or worse.

Do you mean the trailer? Or is there something specific to "part 2" which I'm misunderstanding?
By this time I'm pretty confused so maybe you need to ask Giorgio himself. Sorry if my replies aren't helping

(This said, me I pay gladly 4tkts for the Kira Thorn dap, 1 tkt for Belle Clare non sex, and 1-2 more for Giorgio Grandi extra investment. But LP should be fair,too!)

Agreed

[dap-addict]

Ok, but my questions is:
- does Belle already get dapped (DAP = double anal prenetration) in part 2 like that LP add suggests?
- and if not does she get involved in any sex at all in part 2?

Negative. Not in what I consider to be Part 2 anyway. Belle doesn't get beyond topless. It's just a build-up to what I think of as part 3, "coming soon".

Thanks!
Thats all I wanted to know.
Means however there is wrong and misleading advertizing by LP. Nt Giorgio it seems, as he didnt post that Belle Claire dap pic when advertizing part 2.


Generally I cant wait for part 3 now. But as just having fallen in porn-"love" with Kira Thorn I need part 2 as well, also I want really to pay 15tkts for the pilot.

[staygold]

Hi, I guess it's hard for Giorgio to direct everybody and probably operate the camera himself all at the same time. So perhaps he has to keep it simple. The scene seems to flow for long periods without cuts and edits, which I really like, and appreciate the professionalism and attitude of everyone involved.
..
but we don't always get everything we want

Well, after the pissing ban a lot of people here were like it's hard / impossible so let's stop developing and go on making identical shit. Giorgio proves this wrong. He has improved his work in every aspect himself and with our help and he keeps making our ideas here reality. Thanks Giorgio!

[hjohjole]

Ok, so i will do a review of the Kira Thorn scene here.

First off i really enjoyed the voyeuristic aspect of having the whole thing take place in front of an audience. There is just something about seeing other women spectating nasty perverted sex that really turns me on.

I also really liked the lesbian element and how Kira at all times was surrounded by the other girls. They where mostly just caressing and kissing here (and each other) etc and not taking any major part of the action. I think that worked very well, it was like a nice soft contrast to all the hardcore fucking going on with Kira at the center of attention. It was basically an orgy scene, but by focusing everything on just one girl you instantly take away everything that is frustrating about watching orgy scenes. Thats pretty brilliant i think.
And Kira Thorns performance was solid. She takes quite the anal pounding in this scene while visibly enjoying it every step of the way. The highlight for me is when she is having her squirting orgasm towards the end.

What i didn't like was the fact that it was split up in to two scenes. For practical reason i don't like changing movie while im in the middle of watching. You know because then im very busy doing other more important stuff.
I also had to buy the two parts for 5 tickets each. I don't mind paying for quality porn and all things considered this probably an accurate reflection of production cost. But still 10 tickets is the most i have ever payed for a scene on LP and im having mixed feelings about that.

[magizi877]

This is just my opinion and point of view about the clockwork scene.

I been watching porn with story elements for years and years over at Brazzers and old Private scenes (their new content is pretty crappy IMO), I can't help but compare them.

IMO Brazzers is better in the story department, in Giorgio's defense, Brazzers has been doing it for so many years and Giorgio kinda just started.
So it is somewhat unfair of me to compare them, but they are in the same business so, deal with it.

However, there are key differences:

Brazzers "story" elements are mostly just contextual. Not really plot elements, there is not really a "story" to tell...
What I mean is, that the story element in Brazzer's scenes, for the most part, is just a situation that people (the viewers) can relate to.
Basically the viewer can fill in the gaps with their own fantasy if they so choose.

That is the superior way to do it IMO.

For instance, in the scene "good cop, bad cop" with Dani Daniels, the "story" is that she is carelessly driving and because of that, two cops pull her over, and
that leads to the sex, where one cop has sex with her while the other is waiting, and after he is finished, the other fucks her in different style/mood.
That scene was really good and I honestly feel pity for all of you who only "enjoy" anal sex scenes. lol.



But I digress, because the Story in that scene I just described, only takes a couple of minutes to develop, it is still for the most part, a porno. (5% story 95% gonzo porn)
Where as in the Clockwork gang pilot scene, the "story" it seems to last for a significantly longer amount of time. (judging by the trailer and screenshots)
This makes apparent that the actors are not very good at acting. Brazzers had this problem before, and to an extent they still do, but it's way better than before.

The more time they spend developing the story, the more evident it's gonna be for us, that they are so much better at performing sex, than acting a story.
And that takes value away from the scene, so, at some point we are gonna start wondering if 10-15 tkt are really worth it.

Bottom line, most of us just want to watch a pretty girl get fucked in the most exciting and kinky way possible. Be it a 1 on 1, gangbang or orgy.

That being said, I personally skipped it because, for many reasons I dislike porn scenes with more than one girl.
I like giving all my attention to just one girl. I like seeing the girl, get all the attention possible, from the camera to the male actors.
And one girl per scene movies, are usually more intense and fun to watch for me.

For me, scenes with multiple girls are less valuable, especially if I fell a different level of attraction from each of the girls included in the scene.
I hope Giorgio films true gangbang scenes in his clockwork series, two girls is one girl too many for a "gangbang". Get your porn facts straight.

[wunker]

That being said, I personally skipped it because, for many reasons I dislike porn scenes with more than one girl.
I like giving all my attention to just one girl. I like seeing the girl, get all the attention possible, from the camera to the male actors.
And one girl per scene movies, are usually more intense and fun to watch for me.

For me, scenes with multiple girls are less valuable, especially if I fell a different level of attraction from each of the girls included in the scene.
I hope Giorgio films true gangbang scenes in his clockwork series, two girls is one girl too many for a "gangbang". Get your porn facts straight.

In part1 Kira gets all the attention, i still have to buy part2 but i guess it will be Kira getting all the attention (fucking) then in part3 will be Belle, so if you like Kira you are missing a really good scene

[wunker]

That being said, I personally skipped it because, for many reasons I dislike porn scenes with more than one girl.
I like giving all my attention to just one girl. I like seeing the girl, get all the attention possible, from the camera to the male actors.
And one girl per scene movies, are usually more intense and fun to watch for me.

For me, scenes with multiple girls are less valuable, especially if I fell a different level of attraction from each of the girls included in the scene.
I hope Giorgio films true gangbang scenes in his clockwork series, two girls is one girl too many for a "gangbang". Get your porn facts straight.

In part1 Kira gets all the attention, i still have to buy part2 but i guess it will be Kira getting all the attention (fucking) then in part3 will be Belle, so if you like Kira you are missing a really good scene

[Vawkes]

I'm very excited about this series, but I just hope in future that videos are not divided into parts.

I want to see the sex scene and chapter of the story all in one video. Please, Giorgio!

[blktyp2]

It was awesome that the first scene took place in front of an audience, which I would like to see more of. In addition, I enjoyed some of the acting and Giorgio's cinematography keeps getting better.

I wouldn't mind payer higher ticket prices for scenes of this quality.

[laura.]

Is there any chance our calls for a Xmas orgy can be incorporated in the storyline?

[hardanalfan]

I don't understand why only Kira Thorne bangs.

Don't worry honey, I am sure in time the remainder of the gorgeous angels will have their amazing asses banged. Patience my dear x

Ok dear Laura because Ginger Fox, Roxy Dee, Cristina Tess and other girls deserves good bangs

[Ass2Die4464]

I still don't know how I feel about this 3 part movie, mainly because of how the total scenes were split. I don't mind story but I don't want so much that the sex which should be the main focus IMHO is forgotten. This series could have been told in 2 parts because there is only 2 sex scenes. I think the parts should coincide 1 to 1 with the sex scenes. I also think each part should fully contain one sex scene. For instance part 3 of the series does not include the start of the Belle Claire scene forcing fans of Belle to have to buy the 2nd part to get the hole context of the scene. That is unfortunate in my mind. I am refusing to buy the 2nd part because it doesn't make sense to have a 3 part split which means I'm missing out on the full scene I wanted to see. If the goal is charge customers 15 tickets for the series then split the scenes into 2 parts charging 7.50 tickets each for the scene to recoup the investment. This gives the customers the power to decide if they want to support the project or not and also if they wanted to only support the series partially. Giorgio is not the first person to break a concept into multiple scenes but he is the first one that I have scene break one contiguous scene into 2 parts forcing the customer to have to buy more or less of what they want.

As for part 3, Belle is magnificent as always. I'm pissed not to see the removal of the wedding dress and her teasing. Also I don't understand why her pussy was not fucked maybe they wanted to leave her pussy untouched for her husband or felt there was something dangerous there. I guess I will never know because I didn't buy her scene start in the 2nd part. The sex is great as we all expected with Giorgio camera angles and Belle beauty as she is fucked. Oh one more thing her gape is so fucking beautiful too. I had dreams of rimming her gape and caressing her magnificent tits.

If anything comes of this feedback I want it to be clear. I support story in scenes and multi part series. I just strongly disagree with splitting a contiguous scene into multiple parts like the example I gave with Belle sex scene. I like the concept Giorgio it just needs some tweaking IMO.

[stepmaste]

Does anyone know the name of the brunette wearing the strap-on? Thanks

[ergerh_nikolaierh]

amazing vid! made me cum

[avanfurwet]

Does anyone know the name of the brunette wearing the strap-on? Thanks

Brunette is Roxy Dee

2 girls use the strap-on in that scene. Second girl is Ginger Fox. Who also deserves a big

[byleth]

Hi,
could we know already if this 3 parts story is a "sales" success?

[Giorgio Grandi]

Hi,
could we know already if this 3 parts story is a "sales" success?

Party #1 and Part #2 are already in the top 100. The part #3 is not there (at least yet)

[Giorgio Grandi]

I think few of you did not get the concept of split the movie in multiple parts.
For the future, we will work on a better trailer that specify more the content inside each video, but for your understanding I would like you to consider the idea that we are selling a full movie, we are not selling a movies divided in scenes.
In other words, the point is to sell the full movie.

Partially, I got simply inspired from the Pilot movie of most of the normal television series, where the twist is every time divided between 2 separate parts. I understand your comments, but on the other side I did not read anywhere that someone complain because the twist is split between the end of one part and the beginning of the next in almost all the Pilots of a television series. Its called suspense.
Then I already know where you want to argue, but I used this format for allow me to produce this movie, to release it in 2 parts is technically not possible (believe me, its like this)

[hairbald]

Giorgio - I think its great that you are experimenting and whilst it may seem like a lot of criticism, I get the flavour is very much constructive and wanting to see you continue to improve the product.

Keep it up

[avanfurwet]

I think few of you did not get the concept of split the movie in multiple parts.
For the future, we will work on a better trailer that specify more the content inside each video, but for your understanding I would like you to consider the idea that we are selling a full movie, we are not selling a movies divided in scenes.
In other words, the point is to sell the full movie.

Partially, I got simply inspired from the Pilot movie of most of the normal television series, where the twist is every time divided between 2 separate parts. I understand your comments, but on the other side I did not read anywhere that someone complain because the twist is split between the end of one part and the beginning of the next in almost all the Pilots of a television series. Its called suspense.
Then I already know where you want to argue, but I used this format for allow me to produce this movie, to release it in 2 parts is technically not possible (believe me, its like this)

Thanks Giorgio, for the movie and for your explanations.

Good news that the "Clockwork Gang" is selling well. GG & his gang obviously worked hard to make this and I hope it's a big success.

I get the comparison with TV shows where there is a cliffhanger/teaser to leave your audience wanting more. If you keep your customers "warm" they will come back next time to buy more episodes. That's all good.

We just need to understand clearly what we can buy today and what is "coming soon".

I understood from the beginning that this is a multi-part movie and the Belle scene would be the grand finale for this movie. For me, it's OK because I wanted to buy the whole movie. But that's just me.

Maybe there could be some extra sales for individual episodes/parts if, for example, Belle fans just wanted to buy part 3 where she is the main star. They'd miss the story, but not everyone wants the story. I understand GG wants everyone to enjoy his whole work, but a sale is a sale. And today's sales pay for tomorrow's episodes.

I still think it was awkward splitting the Kira scene. If possible, I'd want the scene in one episode and I'd just pay whatever was necessary because she's a little star and it was such a great scene. Complimenti Giorgio!

I think a few others have said the same.

But if GG says he needs to split it, or he wants to split it so we're in suspense for the conclusion, then I guess I have to respect his position. Even if I don't fully understand or agree. GG does this for a living and I'm just one customer. And I still bought it and I'm still happy with it.

I think this move forward into multi-part series and split episodes is new territory for everyone at LP. I hope in future, with the benefit of more experience and clear communication, we'll all understand better what to expect.

Not everybody will want to join this journey, and with new studios joining LP there will be more different stuff to consider. But I hope enough people will support GG's vision so future projects get made. I think it keeps porn fresh and alive, for the director, the performers, the customers, if people can have fun with it and try new things.

[BelleClaireCreme]

.
Giorgio: No more movie spoofs/parodies for Belle. Just give her some more 5 BBC "Chocolate Factory" fun.

By the way, the BC in BBC stands for Belle Claire.
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[belle.claire.official]

Pickies! I am very happy with this movie and I dont mind at all splitting it into 3 parts. Keeps it interesting!
Also, the ones who know me, know that Ive always been more into creative work. Nothing against bang bang girls, but lp is full of that :-)
Also, its a PILOT movie, other series might be pressented differently.

Keep on wanking!

B. Xx

[dap-addict]

Hi Belle,
Easier for you sure than Kira Thorn as your scene was less split, all sex was in part 3.
Anyway, I am happy you like the concept as much as I do!

Keep on performing DAP!
dap-a

[byleth]

Giorgio,
I like this concept of movie. Great job.

Belle,
You're beautiful. Great scene

[laura.]

Pickies! I am very happy with this movie and I dont mind at all splitting it into 3 parts. Keeps it interesting!
Also, the ones who know me, know that Ive always been more into creative work. Nothing against bang bang girls, but lp is full of that :-)
Also, its a PILOT movie, other series might be pressented differently.

Keep on wanking!

B. Xx

Exactly Belle. Thought you looked very natural in the acting segments. Respect x

[avanfurwet]

Hi Giorgio, could you tell who are these 2 girls ?
Please...

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Someone know who are these two girls ?

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The one with the black dress :

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No, but I'd like to. I think the curvy girl in pink is especially cute.

[kidloco2]

I think this trollogy was maybe a good production experience for Giorgio and a step-up in this context, but realistically a waste of effort and money IMHO.

[Vawkes]

When we're talking about 5 tickets per scene/part, then 15 credits is far too much to pay for an entire porn film.

Sorry, Giorgio. I love the concept of a Clockwork Orange theme, but they need to be individual scene instalments for me to buy.

[kidloco2]

I was suggesting to do the same as with split part scenes, ie. to include in every part equally
hot and sexy content with the same actors, but with different sex acts and niches in each part.

Would work for this as well IMHO. Really, unless you are Wicked, shooting lengthy feature scene/film with 50/50 acting to sex ratio is not definitely going to
make extreme income, that's IMHO what Giorgio don't get and set the price inappropriately.

[laura.]

I think this trollogy was maybe a good production experience for Giorgio and a step-up in this context, but realistically a waste of effort and money IMHO.

I disagree. Of course I don't know the exact sales figures but there all riding high in the best sellers list.

Vawkes: I think from now in they will be released in individual scenes, at least that's what Giorgio stated. The format we have just seen applied to only the pilot. Correct me if I am wrong.

[kidloco2]

I think this trollogy was maybe a good production experience for Giorgio and a step-up in this context, but realistically a waste of effort and money IMHO.

but there all riding high in the best sellers list.

Maybe, but will they last for the next iterations? I highly doubt. GG made a lot of hype on social media and the trailer was misleading as described, so the pilot actually might hit some high numbers. Still, seeing how many production resources were put into it, it's not worth it, Giorgio had to keep the price high to keep ROI, but you can't see the money put into it, it's still porn with some Russian and Czech girls, it's not Pamela Anderson doing her first DAP in the public, if you know what I mean.

And still, he's shooting with a state of the art camera body, but slaps cheap generic photo lens on it and trying to convice me it's ok or we can't see the difference. What a joke. That's the big difference between mainstream movie people shooting porn and former porn actors trying to do shoot artsy porn movie.

[avanfurwet]

I think this trollogy was maybe a good production experience for Giorgio and a step-up in this context, but realistically a waste of effort and money IMHO.

but there all riding high in the best sellers list.

Maybe, but will they last for the next iterations? I highly doubt. GG made a lot of hype on social media and the trailer was misleading as described, so the pilot actually might hit some high numbers. Still, seeing how many production resources were put into it, it's not worth it, Giorgio had to keep the price high to keep ROI, but you can't see the money put into it, it's still porn with some Russian and Czech girls, it's not Pamela Anderson doing her first DAP in the public, if you know what I mean.

And still, he's shooting with a state of the art camera body, but slaps cheap generic photo lens on it and trying to convice me it's ok or we can't see the difference. What a joke. That's the big difference between mainstream movie people shooting porn and former porn actors trying to do shoot artsy porn movie.

I think the Clockwork scenes are in the best sellers list because they're great scenes with popular girls.

Everyone knows about the trailer and the split scenes. People have voiced their opinions. My guess is those issues made a marginal difference to sales at the beginning, but I don't know. The scenes are selling now on their own merits, and time will tell what the eventual sales numbers will be.

I don't know if it's worth it for Giorgio, because I don't know what the project cost to make and I don't know the revenue being generated.
But I think Giorgio and all the cast deserve proper respect for breaking new ground - at least for LP - and for making a success of the project.

But I probably agree with you about the camera lens. I don't know what lens GG is using, and I've no complaints, but IMO it's always the glass that makes the initial image capture sharp and clear from edge to edge. I've learned the hard way that anything less than the very best lens is always a false economy. A cheap lens will always let you down at the worst possible time. Nowadays, with generic electronics and bought-in sensors, most brands make a " good enough" camera. Hardly anybody can make a great lens. [End of boring rant]

[drevokocur66]

as the days go by it will only go up till it reaches the #1 spot
i now he is making his money by the then fold and more than money he is in the spotlight
as someone to reckoned with, i just dont understand your hate cause there is no drama, story-line
scene in the all net with the hard core that GG has made for us, you should be thanks-full you bastard
i bet you that many people want to lure him cause he is definitely a please-r and money maker
he really knows his a,b,c's

the scenes are doing well and you guys are so negative it is starting to sound like hate
are you guys fans or competition ?

Neither, just not my cup of tea.

[avanfurwet]

as the days go by it will only go up till it reaches the #1 spot
i now he is making his money by the then fold and more than money he is in the spotlight
as someone to reckoned with, i just dont understand your hate cause there is no drama, story-line
scene in the all net with the hard core that GG has made for us, you should be thanks-full you bastard
i bet you that many people want to lure him cause he is definitely a please-r and money maker
he really knows his a,b,c's

the scenes are doing well and you guys are so negative it is starting to sound like hate
are you guys fans or competition ?

Not all comments are negative. I didn't count them but I think more comments about the actual scenes are positive. I love this movie and have said so.

But I also think it's also OK for customers here to express their honest opinions and not pull any punches. Better for the producers to know their customers' true opinions both for and against, so long as people act grown-up and give their reasons.

And like you say the sales figures will settle the arguments.

I hope the sales are a big success and that GG and his gang will make more movies and get better all the time.

If we look back 1 year to the first halloween special with Cathy, it was just a bit of fun. Like a low-budget b-movie. I didn't like it, but plenty of others did.
Now 1 year on the Clockwork Gang is way advanced from those earlier efforts. It ain't Kubrick but so what? The point is, I think the work of GG and the team keeps improving and for those who like it, it's worth supporting.

[alongwaysouth498]

As long as Cristina Tess gets a thorough workout, we have a winner.