Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby netzerkaiser » Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:29 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
dap-addict wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:you know what, back off.
I have really enough of you spreading bullshit, doubts and assumptions all around, when you evidently do not have a fucking clue of what you are fucking talking about

Oh, I see, my message came through.
I'll back off in this, dont worry. Its AdV's decision - and for sure shared profits is an experiment worth trying. It could actually lead to a fair profit and risk participation and fuel a fee revolution in Europorn.

On the other hand I know at least 10 female performers who were asked openly or not openly but by referring to seemingly low sales (most of them not visible in sales ranks at least) to perform the same acts as before for lower payment. This was done by different studios in Prague. On top we both are aware of health risks I dont wanna get into here, but they might explain some of my assumptions as you call it. Anyway, girls were asked to perform for less while in Czech inflation still runs high and most other working ppl got less payment cuts, ie. minus 6,7% in "normal" jobs vs. 13% or so in porn jobs.



Giorgio Grandi wrote:The true is that you are demeaning all female performers to some kind of endangered animal that needs to be protected. It is not like this.

I do my best to not demean anybody, neither female performers, nor male performers, nor porn studios or directors! This is the reason I always add that there is ofc a big economic pressure now in EU and because of that War for all involved. I am also aware that some girls are more than mean to their fans as well as their employers. And I try to differ who is who. It's sure not as easy as it seems to tell black and white. ;)


now what you write makes sense and deserves and answer
who decide the price of a model on the PB environment?
the model? the producer? the market?
who decide is... the market. maybe a model propose a price, the producer agree or disagree according to the market.
on the other way around, when a producer propose a price to a model, the price is based on what the market can give for that model
the model is free to disagree and do not work, its up to her.

if the market goes as it was until few months ago (lots of studio shooting the same content with only few good models) what happen is a rise in price of female performers (and so a rise in the price of the content for you because studio needs to keep the models working for them, so offer more money to models).
inflation is also in accounting, but you cant consider rise of price of basic good as a long term reason to increase the price. this because 10% rise in living cost for a model is maybe 200$, for a company like me is maybe 20k or even more every month because rise of basic good are minimal comparing to rise of energy, travels, etc..

as the market is doing now (less studio and still only few models), the option are 2:
- everyone agrees to keep the high price of model and content (no free market)
- someone decrease the price and other studio that are still alive, maybe follow to survive or if they dont decrease the price, if they shoot the same kind of content, they are going to die

now, there is still a long way for the price (of the content) to decrease congruously, because running cost od production are still crazy, but they will as the price of the models will decrease (and so for company as they get smaller to decrease cost but they need to cash months of loss, so it takes more time)
covid created a bubble and the bubble is gone. when everyone understand this point, we maybe came back to a normal scheme in few months (everything needs to be re-built, starting from scouting, production will grow again but will take years to arrive to the same level of 2021)

STD
The standard of STD prevention you can see in prague/buda now, are the higher in the history of porn. is it perfect? is it no for sure, but its really over the standard of 2019 (dont consider the covid time as much less possibility to interact between performers because of travel restrictions and so on)
STD are part of the risk of every performer, like a bricklayer can fall down from a scaffold a performer can get a STD. What we can do is to test the more is possible in reliable places, we can do just this and we do it.

Overall, market changes and we need to adapt. First of all, who is still releasing content, needs to compensate the loss of this year. Market has been very unstable and competition between studios infected from lots of bullshit and unprofessionalism most of serious production. I adapted the production to the market and I am getting results in august, finally. I have a loss this year with 6 figures and the first, if you consider everything, is not a one.
But I am still here, other are not.

Remember this. When market is stable, producer can put the loss shooting a model with low sales on the shoulder of another model that has good sales. When the market is not stable he can not do it. The result is easy, models that do not have an audience enough stable to provide good sales, will be paid less or she will not work (and she is totally free to avoid working)

the scene with anna will be monitored, I need to understand how the scene does on next 2 months, but I think we are getting somewhere and price will drop, at least from my side (not for all models at beginning, but for some). I will do more experiments soon.


At the end of the day, while people can download using fileshare etc, to loyal subscribers like myself, it all really is a load of bollocks. You must know this. It's like passing massive environmental taxes on a country like Iceland, hitting citizens for 25% of taxes, when they might as well be pissing in the Atlantic so long as India, China, USA, Indonesia etc spew out 95% of emissions.

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:43 am

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby netzerkaiser » Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:28 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:netzerkaiser, the message was not for you, but thank you for your comment
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Thanks for kind words Giorgio, & I've great respect for all you've made of your life. My point was | is that if every consumer played it straight, then everything would be dramatically cheaper for all consumers. It's kind of, & maybe always was, the elephant in the room that no-one dares mention.

Thanks Man.

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby netzerkaiser » Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:32 pm

netzerkaiser wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:netzerkaiser, the message was not for you, but thank you for your comment
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Thanks for kind words Giorgio, & I've great respect for all you've made of your life. My point was | is that if every consumer played it straight, then everything would be dramatically cheaper for all consumers. It's kind of, & maybe always was, the elephant in the room that no-one dares mention.

Thanks Man.


You guys just trying to make a living, I get that. :cool:

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:50 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:netzerkaiser, the message was not for you, but thank you for your comment
:)

There is a lot to comment here - thanks to Giorgio for your answer! :) - I'll go into details later. But I think the clue here is loyalty. A good product and good communication about it does creat consumer loyalty. It's crucial for all porn studios in Prague and everywhere else. Some do better with communication, like GIO or Mambo/Oscar for instance and some do worse (like gonzo or Yummy, just to name 2 of them).

Apart from consumer loyalty any studio especially in difficult times also needs performer loyalty. Now suggesting lower fees could create a problem here and needs really good communication, especially if a payment system switch is tested such as with that last AdV scene.

But even without testing a new payment option loyalty and fee / payment questions are really tricky. I think there may have been some misunderstandings last few months, I wanna think it that way. But anyway, it would be shortsighted by any studio to aleniate main performers, jeopardizing their loyality, especially with those who brought a lot of their own ideas, their own gear, shoes and cloths to make a better product and not a run-off-the-mill-always-same-bodystocking-product as some competitors provide.

Loyalty is easily lost and hard to gain back. I do hope everybody involved into decision makeing is considering that, not only the but also his booking managers etc.
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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby dap-addict » Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:54 am

Just wanted to say a lot of communication happened and different kinds of loyalty were shown, too. I thus started to reload my tickets again. I just also missed out on too many Prague main studio scenes recently.
This doesn't mean I wont have to economize and apply some criteria still.
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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby dap-addict » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:47 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Overall, market changes and we need to adapt. First of all, who is still releasing content, needs to compensate the loss of this year. Market has been very unstable and competition between studios infected from lots of bullshit and unprofessionalism most of serious production. I adapted the production to the market and I am getting results in august, finally. I have a loss this year with 6 figures and the first, if you consider everything, is not a one.

:( :mad:
Just wanted to ask back how results looked end of August?
Is there a light in the tunnel?
:confused:

As for me I started to re-charge my tickets again and to spend them more generously.

Also why exactly is the porn video market less stable after Covid?
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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby misangrenegra2 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:00 pm

I find quite hard imagine that each studio can get the numbers that they want.

Basically because there are each time more and more offer:

There are more each time studios selling here and, obviously, all want sell good, but, if the number of clients doesn't grow up in the same way, how consistent can be their sales?.

If we take the picture of 5-6 years ago, there were 5-6 good studios? now there are around 10-12 decent studios, the price is more high and i have several doubts that the whole bunch of costumers have been increase their salaries x2 and spend more money in porn, in fact, now it looks the users split their purchases in different studios, not only in 2 or 3 as some years ago.

That is why i ask if the whole number of costumers have been growing up equally than the offer, it looks like there are too much to be supported properly.

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby dap-addict » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:52 am

misangrenegra2 wrote:...there are each time more and more offer:
There are more each time studios selling here and, obviously, all want sell good, but, if the number of clients doesn't grow up in the same way, how consistent can be their sales?

Giorgio Grandi posted about this recently as far as I understand: Basically Covid created a lot of new studios because girls could move far less. Currently PB seems to try to limit own LP studios again.

Means cutting main LP offer down again are different and sometimes disturbing, one being a side effect of the price increase. Some Prague studios already closed: N&F, PAF etc.

On the plus side still for sure will be a consolidation and more predictability again.
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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby netzerkaiser » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:22 pm

Start looking at all the old stuff!

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Postby dap-addict » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:37 pm

netzerkaiser wrote:Start looking at all the old stuff!

Problem with old stuff is I have bought a lot already. ;)
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Postby dap-addict » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:08 pm

Well, not all interesting old scenes it seems.
I started having a closer look since that 2 day break of new releases for "technical reasons" as management called it and there are still some interesting older DAP films out there! :)
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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby Jocke » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:01 am

Having close to 5000 scenes I have decided to only add scenes where:

1. Two or more girls participate
2. Mutual pissing i.e. girl-girl, girl-guy, guy girl
3.Prolapse/buttrose/gape licking by the guys
4. Something new and exciting I haven't seen before.
Can we have guys licking the girls' anal gapes Mike Adriano style, while the girls are pissing, please!

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby dap-addict » Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:22 am

dap-addict wrote:Looks like it would be possible to economize quite some large amounts of TKT going to Sheer for porn shopping instead.
Do I get this right?
:confused:

Sheer actually helps me economize meanwhile especially for AGO scenes since with many of them I ended up buying on the long run, while not doing INSTA_BUYS usually. AGO monthly subscription indeed gives a lot! :cool:

This said not counting the Sheer acquired AGO DAPs into my overall porn spending really I do realize my maximum thereshold of 5,5euro per DAP is coming under massive pressure since start of 2024.

Looks like very soon I have to add another 10% if I wanna go on collecting DAPs.
In 2023 I already went from $$ to Euro, which was almost 10% more spending averagely on each DAP. Now I'd have to go from 5,5euro to 6 or 6,1euro actually.
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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:36 pm

Jocke wrote:Having close to 5000 scenes I have decided to only add scenes where:

1. Two or more girls participate
2. Mutual pissing i.e. girl-girl, girl-guy, guy girl
3.Prolapse/buttrose/gape licking by the guys
4. Something new and exciting I haven't seen before.


I have a set criteria too, after accruing many scenes on PornBox (perhaps a little too much...):

1) The female or TS performer must be styled and glamourised the right way (I tend to think GIO does this quite well as an example of a studio who fits what I am looking for).
2) It should have WET content.
3) There is buttrose/prolapse.
4) Some kind of fetish too, e.g. anal fisting, puking, piss puking, rough manhandling, anal creampies etc.
5) For me, sexy high heels worn, and ideally kept on for the whole scene.

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Re: Running out of tickets...how do you economize?

Postby hunter026 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:36 pm

As a huge prolapse lover I obviously only spend my tickets on actresses with monster prolapses :) Therefor I'm so glad that my favourite prolapse goddess sexy gorgeous Monika Fox is back at the GG Studio, my tickets are waiting to be spent on her big juicy prolapse rose :D

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