Spring 2023 price-rise and AVLP sustainability

[dap-addict]

Trying not be be caught off-guard again like during that sudden, unheralded ticket devaluation in mid April 2022 I open this thread to discuss some tendencies and loyal user ideas in order to prevent an outcry in 3mt again.

I dont count on pre price rise info sadly, PB management is pretty bad on that, or even totally unwilling. But grassroots actions from porn user side could channel rage a bit, ideally.

Because what happened last 9mt has bad effects on some of our fave girls and some of our mainly smaller studios.
And this is sure not what we want as responsible, paying and loyal AVLP porn users.

For me porn is just a commodity like electricity, health service, TV mainstream streaming etc.
But its a special commodity at the same time.
Anyway, I treat porn like that, a certain sum of my income needed because I want to watch it and I dont want that to change much, be it 1% or 10% or 20% of my overall monthly money spent.

Thus lets keep next price rise - IF it really has to come - reasonable and more sustainable!
i.e. not all off a sudden + 35% more tickets needed!
And also not all off a sudden + 21% VAT to pay on top!

Please everybody propose acceptable solutions, sustainable ones, allowing porn girls and studios to stay in biz!

[dap-addict]

Let me also re-post this important bit from Claire Belle's model thread on import solutions in order to cut high EU production prices.
Talent import from cheaper places like Brazil or Colombia indeed could be a way to contain high Prague porn production price rises and this avoid another +42% price hike in 2023.
But...

(...)
Gonzo has been importing Colombian models, so there is no need to do copy/paste with girls from those countries.
But nobody imported Brazilian models with child like features that all your/pornbox customers like. Why is that? Surely the cheaper rates are worth the "investment risk" to import batches of brazilians that fall within the child look in terms of body/face like gonzo did for Colombian models a couple of times. No idea why you only decided to import 1 girl in stead of a (mini) group in order to spread "investment risks". There will always be shoots/models who perform better than the other. They can make up for loss of other scenes/models....

Hello, look the point is complex.

In general, south american content are cheaper to producer and go for sales ofter at lover price then european content with the same girl.

So, when we bring a model to europe that has already 10-20 scenes online, we are going to shoot overall a similar content and sell it ofter for an higher price, the double or so very often.

Even paying the model the same like in south america, we are still uncompetitive, because here boys are more expensive, there is the travel to pay and so on.
The only solution could have been shooting heavier content than south american's, but this is actually not a solution that actually works.

This is valid not only for Brazilian girls, but in general for all models that start they work in porn in studio that sell at a low price.

this bring to the point that we cant offer much money to a south american models, and for this reason she also refuse to came to europe very often.

The point is not from where the model is from or how much she got/get paid, competition is between content already online that cost much less to the user than what we would shoot and sell.

So basically GG's observation is that users are already so much cash-stripped after mid April 2022 price rise and inflations ragging in EU and USA that the users instead of buying a new scene by a girl they go back and check their older scenes which cost less and buy these instead.
Its true for the Brazilian girl in question - Sayuri Sakai - but sure also for other Latinas and also Russian porngirls work published before April 2021. Maybe also for all Eurobabes in case users haven't collected all their scenes.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I think what I will be releasing in a few month (new scenes), I mean in spring/summer time, could have a lover price that the previous average.

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

[dap-addict]

To take GG's example of Sayuri Sakai:
GIO2334 (https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/249857) 4on1 BBC costs 10,14TKT.
But users can get an older 4on1 BBC for 10% or 20% cheaper - and obviously buys rather that.
10% cheaper @ Yummy: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/171256
even 20% cheaper @ Mambo Perv.: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/149103

Most users are already so cash-stripped that 10-20% off is a deal-breaker for them!

[zeusanalfreak299]

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Obviously it won't be possible to increase prices more and more in the longterm even if it's necessary to cover all costs.
New concepts and changes will be needed.

Rolls Royce used to sell engines. Today, they lease engines and charge for them on the basis of flight hours.

Most airlines today finance their flights with business and first class seats. Economy class is totally uneconomical but necessary to cover some of the fixed costs.

I believe that the porn industry is also becoming more flexible. What sounds strange and impossible for many today will become reality.

Maybe the payment/financing of individual sex positions, sex acts, certain outfits, or models, or parts of scenes at smaller prices because the prices for the whole package will be too high?

Flat rates not only for studios but also models or genres?

Lowering of prices and introduction of tips/donations?

Multi camera angle shots like PremBuk to better satisfy the wishes of viewers and increase the willingness to buy?

Or even better: providing the whole footage? So that the viewer can enjoy what he likes for a long time. Without crass editing including BTS.

[hjohjole]

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Some bold words. What is Giorgio up to this time?

[beklof]

The future of porn?

"I do what I want and how I want".
Mia Malkova

Mia Malkova, one of the most popular porn stars in social media, has 40,000 subscribers on her Only fans channel. She says that she earns between 150,000 and 250,000 dollars a month, significantly more than before from porn films.

"Besides, I decide on everything. I do what I want and how I want. My quality of life is much better" Malkova says.

[Paizal]

[quote="hjohjole"]

Some bold words. What is Giorgio up to this time? [/quote

Continue to shoot the same girls over and over and over again and hope that we idiots don't notice that Anna De Ville scene #3865, is the same scene as # 2298.....and each girl ( all 7 of them) get more tattoos by CGI.

[davebowman]

I'm not sure the current membership model can reasonably sustain another price increase. With a standard scene now over 10 tickets, you are just about getting 4 scenes per month for your membership. Are people going to be willing to pay for only 3 scenes a month? It's barely enough to last most people a week and you immediately have to start hitting the ticket reload button.

[Giorgio Grandi]

The future of porn?

"I do what I want and how I want".
Mia Malkova

Mia Malkova, one of the most popular porn stars in social media, has 40,000 subscribers on her Only fans channel. She says that she earns between 150,000 and 250,000 dollars a month, significantly more than before from porn films.

"Besides, I decide on everything. I do what I want and how I want. My quality of life is much better" Malkova says.

Oh boy.
Imagine for a second a model to find herself in the same position without to have worked for other companies.
Would be so hard, so money and time consuming, that would not be even profitable in short term.
She benefited from the exposure provided from the companies for who she had worked, this was her starting point and it was a lot

Without the kickstart provided from other companies, she would not be where she is.

This is not porn, this is about fans following a model. Porn is something else.
People do not purchase her OF membership because of the porn released, but because she is in the porn she releases.

[drevokocur66]

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Some bold words. What is Giorgio up to this time?

Horse to car, dvd to internet... convenience.

[dap-addict]

Not sure to which extent its really ticket price rise induced, but on Friday a once well-known Russian porn studio was supposed to go on sale. But it is sure linked to also to price rises, tickets here but also energy, rent etc in Russia. I dont know on which platform studio was put on for sale, but initial price was to be set at 15k. Owner claimed studio was still profitable basically. But it looked like a hell a lot of PR needed to make it sustainably work again. Such PR work is an uphill battle if next TKT price rise seems imminent in just 2-3mt.

[YuriyProneBone]

I think what I will be releasing in a few month (new scenes), I mean in spring/summer time, could have a lover price that the previous average.

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Is this the metaverse you speak off, NFTs, crypto, and stuff? Because obviously that will be huge.

[dap-addict]

I think what I will be releasing in a few month (new scenes), I mean in spring/summer time, could have a lover price that the previous average.

Missed that post!
Looks like todays Isabella Clark 4on1 re-breakin' at below 10TKT could be first sign or a new approach optimizing profits instead of shying users away with those +43% incl. VAT prices we have for almost 1y now.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Obviously it won't be possible to increase prices more and more in the longterm even if it's necessary to cover all costs.
New concepts and changes will be needed.

Rolls Royce used to sell engines. Today, they lease engines and charge for them on the basis of flight hours.

Most airlines today finance their flights with business and first class seats. Economy class is totally uneconomical but necessary to cover some of the fixed costs.

I believe that the porn industry is also becoming more flexible. What sounds strange and impossible for many today will become reality.

Maybe the payment/financing of individual sex positions, sex acts, certain outfits, or models, or parts of scenes at smaller prices because the prices for the whole package will be too high?

Flat rates not only for studios but also models or genres?

Lowering of prices and introduction of tips/donations?

Multi camera angle shots like PremBuk to better satisfy the wishes of viewers and increase the willingness to buy?

Or even better: providing the whole footage? So that the viewer can enjoy what he likes for a long time. Without crass editing including BTS.

For me, free time is very precious and valuable. I do not want to be checking, ticking lots of different options to buy additional add-ons/extras etc. I just want a complete scene, with everything included already...and if it costs 10-12.5 tickets, that is fine (assuming it is a quality scene with a big name star).

[zeusanalfreak299]

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Obviously it won't be possible to increase prices more and more in the longterm even if it's necessary to cover all costs.
New concepts and changes will be needed.

Rolls Royce used to sell engines. Today, they lease engines and charge for them on the basis of flight hours.

Most airlines today finance their flights with business and first class seats. Economy class is totally uneconomical but necessary to cover some of the fixed costs.

I believe that the porn industry is also becoming more flexible. What sounds strange and impossible for many today will become reality.

Maybe the payment/financing of individual sex positions, sex acts, certain outfits, or models, or parts of scenes at smaller prices because the prices for the whole package will be too high?

Flat rates not only for studios but also models or genres?

Lowering of prices and introduction of tips/donations?

Multi camera angle shots like PremBuk to better satisfy the wishes of viewers and increase the willingness to buy?

Or even better: providing the whole footage? So that the viewer can enjoy what he likes for a long time. Without crass editing including BTS.

For me, free time is very precious and valuable. I do not want to be checking, ticking lots of different options to buy additional add-ons/extras etc. I just want a complete scene, with everything included already...and if it costs 10-12.5 tickets, that is fine (assuming it is a quality scene with a big name star).

You already mentioned it in my poll. But you forgot again that prices will increase and will go beyond 12.5 TKT. And what then?
You also ignore obviously again that the split I´m talking about can be optional. If you want full scene, you could but it. But close to the button "full scene" could be other buttons for specific parts. Nothing would change for you. You would be happy, and others would be happy too if they could buy a specific part only and could support specific models and sex positions /fetishes... I´m tired to repeat that again and again...

[asaleh001806]

One solution is to sell larger ticket bundles for a lower price. As of now, you can buy 250 tickets for $220. There could be a market for larger bundles that would lower the cost per ticket (e.g., 500 tickets for $400).

[zeusanalfreak299]

One solution is to sell larger ticket bundles for a lower price. As of now, you can buy 250 tickets for $220. There could be a market for larger bundles that would lower the cost per ticket (e.g., 500 tickets for $400).

Also a good idea!

[dp_fan]

I think what I will be releasing in a few month (new scenes), I mean in spring/summer time, could have a lover price that the previous average.

Lately I feel me like the little chemist exploring the universe starting from basic and somehow I feel we are going soon into another revolution, like the one that has influenced the industry in the switch from DVD or internet

Dear Giorgio, How about creating a shop for the girl's outfits used in the scenes?
It would give any fan from anywhere in the world the opportunity to be a part of the scene.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

One solution is to sell larger ticket bundles for a lower price. As of now, you can buy 250 tickets for $220. There could be a market for larger bundles that would lower the cost per ticket (e.g., 500 tickets for $400).

Also a good idea!

What great ideas! I would very much support this idea of larger volumes of tickets being purchased in exchange for a lower cost for paying members.
120 tickets for 80 USD is the current price, equally 0.666 USD per ticket.

For 500 tickets, perhaps it could be lowered to 0.6 USD per ticket equally 300 USD.

[visigoth2020260]

Let me also re-post this important bit from Claire Belle's model thread on import solutions in order to cut high EU production prices.
Talent import from cheaper places like Brazil or Colombia indeed could be a way to contain high Prague porn production price rises and this avoid another +42% price hike in 2023.
But...

(...)
Gonzo has been importing Colombian models, so there is no need to do copy/paste with girls from those countries.
But nobody imported Brazilian models with child like features that all your/pornbox customers like. Why is that? Surely the cheaper rates are worth the "investment risk" to import batches of brazilians that fall within the child look in terms of body/face like gonzo did for Colombian models a couple of times. No idea why you only decided to import 1 girl in stead of a (mini) group in order to spread "investment risks". There will always be shoots/models who perform better than the other. They can make up for loss of other scenes/models....

Hello, look the point is complex.

In general, south american content are cheaper to producer and go for sales ofter at lover price then european content with the same girl.

So, when we bring a model to europe that has already 10-20 scenes online, we are going to shoot overall a similar content and sell it ofter for an higher price, the double or so very often.

Even paying the model the same like in south america, we are still uncompetitive, because here boys are more expensive, there is the travel to pay and so on.
The only solution could have been shooting heavier content than south american's, but this is actually not a solution that actually works.

This is valid not only for Brazilian girls, but in general for all models that start they work in porn in studio that sell at a low price.

this bring to the point that we cant offer much money to a south american models, and for this reason she also refuse to came to europe very often.

The point is not from where the model is from or how much she got/get paid, competition is between content already online that cost much less to the user than what we would shoot and sell.

So basically GG's observation is that users are already so much cash-stripped after mid April 2022 price rise and inflations ragging in EU and USA that the users instead of buying a new scene by a girl they go back and check their older scenes which cost less and buy these instead.
Its true for the Brazilian girl in question - Sayuri Sakai - but sure also for other Latinas and also Russian porngirls work published before April 2021. Maybe also for all Eurobabes in case users haven't collected all their scenes.

I will say this one more time, it is time to make studios, GG studios in a few part of the world, like, Peru, Bolivia, DR and manny others. This girls are waiting for it. Is only a team of GG certificate producers and camera man. Maybe gg can get
The super grea producer that me xxx fired and send him to colonized Peru.

[Oscar Batty]

To be honest with you guys, I have been deeply thinking what to do this year. What I have realized since I have started uploading scenes this year, my revenue which wasn't that great last year, has been cut in half . December got a little better but this January is not and with the current situation, I have lost money on 95% of the scenes that I have uploaded this January 2023.

The only solutions I have now are : 1) to increase the prices and see if it will work or cut all costs and start shooting low cost vids, like only fans ones. This is not really what I wanted to do but it will not be possible to continue with the current situation.

[hjohjole]

To be honest with you guys, I have been deeply thinking what to do this year. What I have realized since I have started uploading scenes this year, my revenue which wasn't that great last year, has been cut in half . December got a little better but this January is not and with the current situation, I have lost money on 95% of the scenes that I have uploaded this January 2023.

I am sorry to hear that Oscar.

I think the main problem is that it is impossible for new customers to even find your content. It blends in to easily with all the amateur garbage that for no good reason at all is flooding the daily updates.
I myself have several times missed your scenes, and i am actively looking for them. The exception are the scenes in that yellow studio. The thumbnails pop out very clearly and are easy to spot just for the color.

This platform is sadly not a very friendly place for small scale producers startling up and struggling to establish themself. And the competition is extremely fierce.
The studios that makes it are the ones that have already amassed a large group of followers. And the top studios right now have all had the luxury of not having their content hidden in the daily update feed while gathering followers. Because they all started out before the website changed and the flood started. It is just recently that it have gotten particularly bad.

...or cut all costs and start shooting low cost vids, like only fans ones. This is not really what I wanted to do but it will not be possible to continue with the current situation.

I wouldn't blame you if you would do this. It is not really your fault. That is EXACTLY what the platform in its current state is geared towards.
I would rather blame the guy that took the greatest porn-site on the planet and turned it in to some sort of cheap shittyfans/tubedump hybrid.

[visigoth2020260]

Let’s put it this way, everyone that knows GG, GZ knows MP. The problem is
The beds, hotel scenario, girls similarly dress in same manner all the time.
Larinha is starting to look outdated do to that fact.
OB has better girls than yummy but you ar not displaying them as models at the beginning of the scenes,
And has not fallowed on my advice. To merged to truly merged domination with the hardsex

[TheVulture]

To be honest with you guys, I have been deeply thinking what to do this year. What I have realized since I have started uploading scenes this year, my revenue which wasn't that great last year, has been cut in half . December got a little better but this January is not and with the current situation, I have lost money on 95% of the scenes that I have uploaded this January 2023.

The only solutions I have now are : 1) to increase the prices and see if it will work or cut all costs and start shooting low cost vids, like only fans ones. This is not really what I wanted to do but it will not be possible to continue with the current situation.

Ah I'm also sorry to hear that Oscar. I bought your recent Debora Andrade and Qween Goddess scenes, which are both exceptional.

I notice that your prices are actually quite low in comparison with the likes of Giorgio, Gonzo etc. yet the scenes are pretty much the same length and very much of the same quality. I personally think you would be well within your rights to increase the ticket prices to about 10-11 tickets and I personally would still buy them for that price if the trailer appeals. Obviously it isn't my first choice to ask anyone at AV/LP to raise their ticket prices but I would certainly rather see you do that than stop making these scenes or change the tone of them. I tend to draw the line at about 11-12 tickets for a scene so at that top end a scene has to be really good for me to consider it good value but those 2 scenes I mention definitely fall into that bracket.

I agree with hjohjole that you perhaps have a bit of a visibility problem on the site. From a personal point of view, I sort of switched off from you when you first started as after a promising start you quickly moved into puke and other very niche stuff that just doesn't appeal to me. It has thus taken a while for your stable to get back on my radar but now you are absolutely producing excellent porn content. Great horny girls, excellent young big dicked studs who don't do any rubbish manhandle or ego stuff and spot on camerawork. I think with a bit of extra promotion and perhaps some slightly higher ticket prices you might well get things back on track. I certainly hope so and wish you the best of luck.

[TheVulture]

Oh I forgot that I also bought an Ariella Ferraz scene, which was also excellent.

And I will definitely consider buying more of the recent scenes (many of which I've been close to buying anyway), especially while they are at the currently very reasonable prices.

[zeusanalfreak299]

I would rather blame the guy that took the greatest porn-site on the planet and turned it in to some sort of cheap shittyfans/tubedump hybrid.

This guy give a shit on the feedback here.

[YumYum74]

This site is on life support when it comes to professional studio porn, it’s only a matter of time before the plug is pulled. The actions that have been taken in the last two years (give or take) have pushed this place into a downward spiral I feel it is too late to get out of. The tons and tons of amateur crap that gets dropped every single day, the horrible tagging system that just doesn’t work, the absurdly inflated prices, the non existant connection between seller/customer etc etc.

And for the professional studios? We’ve seen Oscar’s story, what about the rest?
- NF is shut down already.
- Yummy has been releasing nothing but BTS crap (more than 30!!!) since last December, they seem to close to death as well, if not dead already.
- Gonzo is a shadow of its former self, releasing at most one or two scenes a week, often months old (no new material?)
- Valter Karo (VK) releases are half the length of what they used to be or should be, but still asks a premium price.
- Interracial Vision is releasing on occasion but is barely noticeable, they should just be renamed to Invisible Vision.
- even Giorgio some days doesn’t release anything. That almost NEVER happened before which seems telling.
- Natasha Teen and LTP offer the best value for money for now, but considering the rest you have to wonder how long that will last.
- NRX has some great girls, but possible the most absurd prices of all. Up to 11 tickets for a 1 v 1? Ridiculous.
- Erika Korti and Angelo Godshack release pretty consistently for now, but they seem to be the exception to the rule and obviously I have no clue how things are behind the curtain.
- PAF basically only does 1 v 1 these days. Could be an artistic decision but I fear it has more to do with the financial situation.

All in all I am very pessimistic about the future of this place. I fear we will continue to see more and more amateur crap until all if not most professional places have gone under.

[TheVulture]

That is a pretty bleak picture you paint there YumYum. I can't really argue with much of that but I would say that Giorgio is pretty much as prolific as ever. There seems to have been a decision taken by those in charge that as of maybe a year or so ago this site would become the de facto host of Giorgio's scenes in the main and then with just a whole avalanche of other stuff behind it. That's not a huge problem for me because Giorgio is pretty much the only director here shooting regular non-manhandle scenes (although again to add that Oscar does this too with Mambo Perv) so he's my "go to" but I can see that it's a huge problem for every other stable.

The site basically needs a major tidy up. It could do worse than stop displaying the scenes on the front page but instead add them only via each stable's dedicated page. So as a consumer you head to each stable's page to see the new scenes. That would certainly level the playing field and also make it easier for the consumer to ignore the majority of the scenes. Most people will probably look at every stable at least on occasion and then if something grabs them, revisit frequently. The site algorithm will then raise that stable on your home page for ease of browsing. That has to be better than just dumping everything against a date with Giorgio's generally at the top. It would certainly help Oscar out I think and any other new stable that makes genuinely good content, whereas at present they're just driftwood in a vast ocean of mediocrity.

[YumYum74]

Sorry, didn't wanna be a buzzkill. If it were just one thing, I'd shrug it off. But there are just too many signs there.

Your idea sounds good. Unfortunately I have lost hope a good idea (this or another) to turn this place around will be picked up by the owners of this site. Either they don't have a clue, they don't care, or it was all part of the plan. Happy to be proven wrong.

[PAFstudio]

This site is on life support when it comes to professional studio porn, it’s only a matter of time before the plug is pulled. The actions that have been taken in the last two years (give or take) have pushed this place into a downward spiral I feel it is too late to get out of. The tons and tons of amateur crap that gets dropped every single day, the horrible tagging system that just doesn’t work, the absurdly inflated prices, the non existant connection between seller/customer etc etc.

And for the professional studios? We’ve seen Oscar’s story, what about the rest?
- NF is shut down already.
- Yummy has been releasing nothing but BTS crap (more than 30!!!) since last December, they seem to close to death as well, if not dead already.
- Gonzo is a shadow of its former self, releasing at most one or two scenes a week, often months old (no new material?)
- Valter Karo (VK) releases are half the length of what they used to be or should be, but still asks a premium price.
- Interracial Vision is releasing on occasion but is barely noticeable, they should just be renamed to Invisible Vision.
- even Giorgio some days doesn’t release anything. That almost NEVER happened before which seems telling.
- Natasha Teen and LTP offer the best value for money for now, but considering the rest you have to wonder how long that will last.
- NRX has some great girls, but possible the most absurd prices of all. Up to 11 tickets for a 1 v 1? Ridiculous.
- Erika Korti and Angelo Godshack release pretty consistently for now, but they seem to be the exception to the rule and obviously I have no clue how things are behind the curtain.
- PAF basically only does 1 v 1 these days. Could be an artistic decision but I fear it has more to do with the financial situation.

All in all I am very pessimistic about the future of this place. I fear we will continue to see more and more amateur crap until all if not most professional places have gone under.

I agree in part with what you wrote, unfortunately I do not know what is happening behind the servers or if there are orders from someone but every time we try to make a DAP scene we almost completely lose money, and if someone bought our old scenes where we did dap and tap will surely have noticed the good quality, energy and imagination that we put in the scenes and above all we have always tried to satisfy every possible fetish ... Now the thing that makes me weird to think is " how is it possible other studios shoot daps taps with all the same actress? It seems as if there is an unwritten thing that tells us at Paf studio you don't have to produce the scenes of Dap... Leaving aside old episodes of attempts to sabotage me by some people and attempts to block the models... lately I have also noticed lower ratings and it happens at the click of each year...to much strange all this no? We really would like to produce very cool HARDCORE gangbang dap scenes but is risk for us, we need Guarantee for produce again gangbang and Dap

[zeusanalfreak299]

but every time we try to make a DAP scene we almost completely lose money........... We really would like to produce very cool HARDCORE gangbang dap scenes but is risk for us, we need Guarantee for produce again gangbang and Dap

DAP is not the most important thing. Ballsdeep penetration with passion and energy is more important. I love also 1on1, if the fucking is hard. I bought this scene and enjoyed it very much! Hope more will come. With hard BBC and ballsdeep anal.

[PAFstudio]

but every time we try to make a DAP scene we almost completely lose money........... We really would like to produce very cool HARDCORE gangbang dap scenes but is risk for us, we need Guarantee for produce again gangbang and Dap

DAP is not the most important thing. Ballsdeep penetration with passion and energy is more important. I love also 1on1, if the fucking is hard. I bought this scene and enjoyed it very much! Hope more will come. With hard BBC and ballsdeep anal.

Thank you very much for the support we really appreciate for what you wrote, absolutely our goal is this

[Lizarbian]

To be honest with you guys, I have been deeply thinking what to do this year. What I have realized since I have started uploading scenes this year, my revenue which wasn't that great last year, has been cut in half . December got a little better but this January is not and with the current situation, I have lost money on 95% of the scenes that I have uploaded this January 2023.

The only solutions I have now are : 1) to increase the prices and see if it will work or cut all costs and start shooting low cost vids, like only fans ones. This is not really what I wanted to do but it will not be possible to continue with the current situation.

It's not nice to see anyone in this situation, i have to be honest. I could have acquired all the videos of Larinha Small, Fran Oliver and Mirella Dias, for example, but I didn't because of a single detail. This is the last video I bought from your studio.

You simply ignored us and let time pass. And worse, insulted us with BTS scenes that will never be released. This is ridiculous. Result: No longer supporting this studio. As a consumer, perhaps I could review my position if one day the studio survives, but that's not the case at the moment.

[visigoth2020260]

To be honest with you guys, I have been deeply thinking what to do this year. What I have realized since I have started uploading scenes this year, my revenue which wasn't that great last year, has been cut in half . December got a little better but this January is not and with the current situation, I have lost money on 95% of the scenes that I have uploaded this January 2023.

The only solutions I have now are : 1) to increase the prices and see if it will work or cut all costs and start shooting low cost vids, like only fans ones. This is not really what I wanted to do but it will not be possible to continue with the current situation.

It's not nice to see anyone in this situation, i have to be honest. I could have acquired all the videos of Larinha Small, Fran Oliver and Mirella Dias, for example, but I didn't because of a single detail. This is the last video I bought from your studio.

You simply ignored us and let time pass. And worse, insulted us with BTS scenes that will never be released. This is ridiculous. Result: No longer supporting this studio. As a consumer, perhaps I could review my position if one day the studio survives, but that's not the case at the moment.

Let’s not be so hard on OB he is a great guy, and he is doing his best he just not paying attention to what we tell him, and that is to be understand as he is surrounded by other guys whom there goal is to get paid no matter what, so I think.

OB, listen my friend.
You are in the Latin production part of the competition, and your main competitors are NT and LTP.
And with the hotel scenario you are not going to be able to compite against them as your movements, angles aré reduce to the walking space a hotel gives you.
Bathroom, beds and closed spaces are for amateur production, your girls are perfect but we are talking about money and what you can get for it, come on rent a place that has a big living room and set it up with the sofas just like gonzo.
You got it all you need is to make those changes and get rid of that preview, use that time to introduce the girls as models displaying all there stores, makeup and all people want to see the beauty of each girl.

[Lizarbian]

To be honest with you guys, I have been deeply thinking what to do this year. What I have realized since I have started uploading scenes this year, my revenue which wasn't that great last year, has been cut in half . December got a little better but this January is not and with the current situation, I have lost money on 95% of the scenes that I have uploaded this January 2023.

The only solutions I have now are : 1) to increase the prices and see if it will work or cut all costs and start shooting low cost vids, like only fans ones. This is not really what I wanted to do but it will not be possible to continue with the current situation.

It's not nice to see anyone in this situation, i have to be honest. I could have acquired all the videos of Larinha Small, Fran Oliver and Mirella Dias, for example, but I didn't because of a single detail. This is the last video I bought from your studio.

You simply ignored us and let time pass. And worse, insulted us with BTS scenes that will never be released. This is ridiculous. Result: No longer supporting this studio. As a consumer, perhaps I could review my position if one day the studio survives, but that's not the case at the moment.

Let’s not be so hard on OB he is a great guy, and he is doing his best he just not paying attention to what we tell him, and that is to be understand as he is surrounded by other guys whom there goal is to get paid no matter what, so I think.

OB, listen my friend.
You are in the Latin production part of the competition, and your main competitors are NT and LTP.
And with the hotel scenario you are not going to be able to compite against them as your movements, angles aré reduce to the walking space a hotel gives you.
Bathroom, beds and closed spaces are for amateur production, your girls are perfect but we are talking about money and what you can get for it, come on rent a place that has a big living room and set it up with the sofas just like gonzo.
You got it all you need is to make those changes and get rid of that preview, use that time to introduce the girls as models displaying all there stores, makeup and all people want to see the beauty of each girl.

The studio is almost broken, the guy is already talking about low cost videos and you suggest even more spending? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. I think is not going to happen.

[YuriyProneBone]

I wonder if studios can survive if they have an option to get money when the video sells, as opposed of having a big chunk of money upfront just based on the first 15 days. I get it that the whole idea behind getting the money first allows for more production, but if the studio doesn't need that, I wonder how profitable it would be to get money for all their sales, and that risk upon themselves.

Two things I see about this, one is that PB has more money and they can withstand the risk, and studios can't, but maybe that's what they need to really become creative and get more money that way. On the other hand I also wonder how profitable the NRX became considering they went from selling many videos at OK prices, to selling almost no videos because of how expensive they are, but still getting the money from subscriptions.