Still the pissing

[Sir Noel]

I know, I know, pissing scenes are now banned here but it just seems so odd that they would be banned for whatever reasons and then still be being released so long after the ban.
Can they really be causing so much trouble to outweigh their sales if months later xxx is still happy to have them appear as new scenes on the site.
I think what makes me want to say this is some of the recent scenes with Alice Nice, Lola Taylor and now Gina Gerson and Linda Sweet are some of the best pissing + anal scenes on the whole site. That is almost too much to take - to tell us no more such scenes will be filmed and then show us how they had been taking them to a higher level :-(
Is there really no way that a compromise could be made? Perhaps a limit of one such scene per week or a seperate homepage linked into the same ticket system just for pissing scenes?
Just seems so weird to have this ban in operation, to totally stop something that was so popular as if stopping it was such a critical thing to do then, months down the line STILL be releasing new back catalogue scenes with this action.

[shark1]

Don't forget that delicious Ginger Fox pissing scene released a few weeks ago as well as Tina Hot's piss drenching 5 on 1, amazing scenes!!

xxx is clearly dedicated to the ban, he has restated it in multiple threads. I don't know why, and he clearly does not want to give a reason. Instead we are getting endless gapefarting and tip fucking DAP scenes. I have voted with my wallet, saving over $100 the past 1-2 months by not reloading and saving the few tickets I had left for piss scenes, that is all I can do.

Giorgio himself said shooting piss scenes was very profitable. Why not shoot one new piss scene a week?

[Mordecai35]

Ya, it's unfortunate. Here's hoping for their return sometime.

In terms of the releases, It's quite apparent that they/XXX have a large archive of unreleased scenes. Perhaps the slow release of them, instead of all at once, is to get an indication of just how popular those scenes are compared to non-pee scenes. BUT he has not chimed in on the subject since April and, well, doubt he will now.

[Pissing]

Yes, I find it kind of childish of xxx that he says he will produce less piss movies, but he refuses to say why.
"Naaaa-na-na-naaaa-naaaa, I'm gonna produce less Piss movies, and I'm not gonna tell you whyyyy-hyyy"

Anyway it is his company. He decides what he wants to make.
It is my money, I decide where it goes, LP or VIPissy.

PS: Gina Gerson in a Piss scene !!!, when I saw it, my day couldnt get any better anymore. Beautiful and horny girls, taking piss in the mouth and then sucking it. Wow !!

[teschio]

This is my thought:
i like to see girls drink Cum and especially Piss ... and many boys

Then even DAP is still DAP obvious ... but especially Piss and Cum

[Sir Noel]

Anyway it is his company. He decides what he wants to make.

Indeed it is. I just cant get why he sees it as something that is a problem yet is STILL posting stockpiled pissing scenes months and months later. In other words, it can't be causing that much of a problem if it is still worth his while to post the scenes.
Just seems sad to stop something just when it was getting perfected and yes there were maybe to many scenes of piss but does it have to be all or nothing?

[TomUK]

Just seems so weird to have this ban in operation, to totally stop something that was so popular as if stopping it was such a critical thing to do then, months down the line STILL be releasing new back catalogue scenes with this action.

I'm wondering if the piss thing was really as popular as some people seem to think. If we look at comments demanding the return of piss it's actually the same dozen or so commenters repeating their opinion and possibly giving a false impression of the demand for these scenes. If we compare this to the short-lived "ideas" feature on this site (1 person, 1 vote), we saw an equal or greater demand for many other acts/themes which hardly get a mention on the forums. Maybe a vocal minority is giving a false impression here?

We also often hear the argument that the piss scenes were the "most popular" based on the "best sellers" list and therefore they must be in great demand of members. Again, I have a different perspective on this as I myself have bought a huge percentage of the piss scenes released but not in a single case was the piss my reason for purchase. In fact I would say that I bought these scenes DESPITE the piss rather than because of the piss I actually skip the piss moments in scenes as I don't find them at all enjoyable to watch.

I'm sure the views i've expressed here won't make me popular with piss fans but this is just a summary of my observations on the subject and is intended to be a genuinely objective comment. I'd also add that despite my lack of enthusiasm for piss, I certainly wouldn't object to a release or 2 a week featuring this theme for those who like it. I can always skip the piss content in scenes that I purchase.

[pastaga]

Speaking of piss, I wonder if latest gonzo wet scene are not sold in the US like one Sineplex scene has been...
If US are the problem then do two cuts of the scene, like tainster do with Fullyclothedpissing / Fullyclothedsex.
But yeah, I'd really like to see pee scenes back, one or 2 a week. Of course only with girls who love it No need of liters then, a few, but nasty pee is enough for me. Especially PIATM. Well I also like when girls get some messy wet hair

[Sir Noel]

TomUK
Well, Giorgio clearly felt it was central to his sales at the time and given how many gonzo/xxx scenes featured it he must have felt similar.
Maybe you have point though but piss scenes DO attract a certain buyer because no-one else is making hard anal scenes regular with added pissing. What I didnt understand is why xxx started shooting so much piss scenes, seemed to get more and more often, then suddenly stop altogether. If he made two a month, GG two a month etc then I don't see why that wouldn't make sense. Not all to nothing in one go!

[shark1]

I'm wondering if the piss thing was really as popular as some people seem to think. If we look at comments demanding the return of piss it's actually the same dozen or so commenters repeating their opinion and possibly giving a false impression of the demand for these scenes. If we compare this to the short-lived "ideas" feature on this site (1 person, 1 vote), we saw an equal or greater demand for many other acts/themes which hardly get a mention on the forums. Maybe a vocal minority is giving a false impression here?

We also often hear the argument that the piss scenes were the "most popular" based on the "best sellers" list and therefore they must be in great demand of members. Again, I have a different perspective on this as I myself have bought a huge percentage of the piss scenes released but not in a single case was the piss my reason for purchase. In fact I would say that I bought these scenes DESPITE the piss rather than because of the piss I actually skip the piss moments in scenes as I don't find them at all enjoyable to watch.

I'm sure the views i've expressed here won't make me popular with piss fans but this is just a summary of my observations on the subject and is intended to be a genuinely objective comment. I'd also add that despite my lack of enthusiasm for piss, I certainly wouldn't object to a release or 2 a week featuring this theme for those who like it. I can always skip the piss content in scenes that I purchase.

What you said could be said for all major niches on here - it's usually the same group of people heavily into DAP scenes, kreme scenes, lesbi-gapers, gapefarting, gangbang and on and on. To say a dozen is ludicrous and you clearly have not read the threads. We are all very vocal about the type scenes we enjoy. I don't think there is any false impression at all for the demand for these scenes - Giorgio himself said they were very profitable, and then Gonzo started shooting piss scenes very heavily for a while. They would not have done that if they were not making money. What xxx ran into from his comments about U.S. being the trouble market are likely legal issues, otherwise I am pretty sure they would still be shooting them. What you have to remember is, and it has been said many times, these forums represent probably about 5% of the total paying members of this site, maybe less, so there are LOTS of people that never voice their opinions in these forums.

We all have a different perspective - I bought numerous scenes I would never have bought if they did not contain pissing. I skip through the niches I do not really enjoy in these same scenes. We all have our preferences.

[Pissing]

I'm wondering if the piss thing was really as popular as some people seem to think. If we look at comments demanding the return of piss it's actually the same dozen or so commenters repeating their opinion and possibly giving a false impression of the demand for these scenes. If we compare this to the short-lived "ideas" feature on this site (1 person, 1 vote), we saw an equal or greater demand for many other acts/themes which hardly get a mention on the forums. Maybe a vocal minority is giving a false impression here?

We also often hear the argument that the piss scenes were the "most popular" based on the "best sellers" list and therefore they must be in great demand of members. Again, I have a different perspective on this as I myself have bought a huge percentage of the piss scenes released but not in a single case was the piss my reason for purchase. In fact I would say that I bought these scenes DESPITE the piss rather than because of the piss I actually skip the piss moments in scenes as I don't find them at all enjoyable to watch.

You have the strangest way of thinking TomUk.
Many people ask for Piss scenes, Piss scenes are the best selling scenes, but your reasoning tries to make it all irrelevant.
You Piss me off.

[TomUK]

TomUK
Well, Giorgio clearly felt it was central to his sales at the time and given how many gonzo/xxx scenes featured it he must have felt similar.
Maybe you have point though but piss scenes DO attract a certain buyer because no-one else is making hard anal scenes regular with added pissing. What I didnt understand is why xxx started shooting so much piss scenes, seemed to get more and more often, then suddenly stop altogether. If he made two a month, GG two a month etc then I don't see why that wouldn't make sense. Not all to nothing in one go!

Yes I agree that it's strange that after the piss releases had been steadily increasing they suddenly stopped without warning. I also agree that xxx / GG clearly felt such scenes were profitable. Seems pretty clear that there is some factor at work other than perceived profitability of the scenes. The point I was trying to make was that I don't think piss is necessarily any more popular than a lot of the other fetishes which don't get much of a mention here and the tediously subjective interpretation of the apparent sales figures and the "victim culture" of the hardcore piss fans is kind of annoying sometimes

No disrespect to yourself, I only responded to this thread because your initial post seemed well balanced and objective and I felt the need to share my thoughts.

What you said could be said for all major niches on here - it's usually the same group of people heavily into DAP scenes, kreme scenes, lesbi-gapers, gapefarting, gangbang and on and on. To say a dozen is ludicrous and you clearly have not read the threads. We are all very vocal about the type scenes we enjoy. I don't think there is any false impression at all for the demand for these scenes - Giorgio himself said they were very profitable, and then Gonzo started shooting piss scenes very heavily for a while. They would not have done that if they were not making money. What xxx ran into from his comments about U.S. being the trouble market are likely legal issues, otherwise I am pretty sure they would still be shooting them. What you have to remember is, and it has been said many times, these forums represent probably about 5% of the total paying members of this site, maybe less, so there are LOTS of people that never voice their opinions in these forums.

We all have a different perspective - I bought numerous scenes I would never have bought if they did not contain pissing. I skip through the niches I do not really enjoy in these same scenes. We all have our preferences.

List of names of all the strong piss advocates please

Seriously though, you make a good point that my argument could be made for all major niches here. I'm not trying to single out the piss fetish as being unique in this respect, I was just trying to point out that it's impossible to quantify the popularity of piss (or any other fetish for that matter) from forum comments or even from scene sales. I'd gladly accept regular releases of piss scenes here if it makes members happy, I just feel that people sometimes overstate the demand for this particular fetish based on nothing more than assumption and hyperbole. I'm not necessarily referring to those who have posted in this thread, just a general observation

Aside from the piss issue, I'm sure we have many other preferences and fetishes in common so I hope you can understand my point even if you don't agree with it.

[tgcfc26]

Many people ask for Piss scenes, Piss scenes are the best selling scenes

No they're not, not even close. There are 3 in the top 50 best sellers.....and before you tell me the number 1 is a piss scene, it's also a 4on1 interracial DAP gangbang with arguably the most popular woman to ever appear on this site.

Anyway, for the fans of this niche, it baffles me why it's okay to release some back stock every now and again, but not okay to produce new content and release it in a similar fashion.

[xxx]

Many people ask for Piss scenes, Piss scenes are the best selling scenes

No they're not, not even close. There are 3 in the top 50 best sellers.....and before you tell me the number 1 is a piss scene, it's also a 4on1 interracial DAP gangbang with arguably the most popular woman to ever appear on this site.

Anyway, for the fans of this niche, it baffles me why it's okay to release some back stock every now and again, but not okay to produce new content and release it in a similar fashion.

I had them removed from the best seller index.

[tgcfc26]

Many people ask for Piss scenes, Piss scenes are the best selling scenes

No they're not, not even close. There are 3 in the top 50 best sellers.....and before you tell me the number 1 is a piss scene, it's also a 4on1 interracial DAP gangbang with arguably the most popular woman to ever appear on this site.

Anyway, for the fans of this niche, it baffles me why it's okay to release some back stock every now and again, but not okay to produce new content and release it in a similar fashion.

I had them removed from the best seller index.

Ahh I see, my apologies to the poster above....

Any reason why you removed some and not all ? Is it simply to present the site in such a way that this type of content isn't abundant ?

[shark1]

It does seem like xxx is trying to make sure LP is not thought of as a pissing site which is okay with me. I would be happy if the occassional piss scene was released, there does not have to be a flood of them which I think is a reason xxx put a halt to them. He obviously had a huge backlog and he might have wanted to start releasing them more slowly. Perhaps one day he will start shooting them again, just not as abundantly which is ok.

[Mordecai35]

xxx, just make a sub-division of the piss scenes, create a new URL, (i.e. John Thompson out east in Germany) - and pretend they are as unpopular as 'society' needs them to be. FFsake dude, you've got a gold mine, (know what mature porn viewers want)) and girls willing to mine the gold, so to speak. Don't hold back on the entertainment due to society's conservative nature - if anything, society is becoming more and more tolerable of sex, whatever the desire, if the partners are all consenting - before, and during the scenes.

You can't deny, watching epic girls like Kitana, Billy, and the stars willing to do anything to make the boys happy wasn't just pure bliss. Denial sucks, let's move forward!

[Pissing]

I cancelled my recurring membership today..... (I have been a member for many years)
It's a pity that LP has stopped producing piss movies.

[Tastes Like Ass]

As I've said before, the idea that LP is in any danger of being prosecuted by the U.S. government for selling piss scenes is simply absurd.

European companies have been providing piss content to American customers at least since the '90s, and not a single one of them has ever been prosecuted for it.

I still don't know what XXX's reasoning is, but if it's based on fear of prosecution by the U.S. government, then he is unbelievably paranoid.

[bennko1000]

Actually I don't think it's such a big issue,
I think legalporno just produced too many pee scenes so the site started to become saturated by them.

And that's not good for business because you need the other scenes to be the main focus, because peeing is a fetish and some people just don't like it.
There's a back log of pee scenes still being released which shows how many they had already shot.

I think xxx is just getting legal porno's focus back towards a none fetish site,
and once the back log of pee scenes has been realised they will shoot more of them in the future occasionally.

xxx just said production of pee scenes was stopping... he didn't say they would be stopped indefinitely.

I don't know the guy, but I think he's most likely an intelligent business man,
and he doesn't have to explain his business decisions to me,
I'm just very grateful for the many excellent pee scenes I have been able to buy on legalporno that I couldn't get anywhere else.

Tho' I do hope new scenes are produced sometime in the future.

[magizi877]

I don't know why everybody always looks at the legal side (fear of persecution) or the monetary aspect (do they sell as good as other scenes, visa or mastercard OK with this?)
when the human aspect is far more important. I mean, I don't know any person who would even consider doing something like being pissed upon one's body, even less on mouth... drink it? Forget it.

How does human capital even approach to this subject when they talk with the new recruits. Nightmare stuff.

I wonder if the girls ever cried after the scene was over. Not that I really want to know.

[Cynewulf30]

I don't know why everybody always looks at the legal side (fear of persecution) or the monetary aspect (do they sell as good as other scenes, visa or mastercard OK with this?)
when the human aspect is far more important. I mean, I don't know any person who would even consider doing something like being pissed upon one's body, even less on mouth... drink it? Forget it.

How does human capital even approach to this subject when they talk with the new recruits. Nightmare stuff.

I wonder if the girls ever cried after the scene was over. Not that I really want to know.

You know i was thinking there is a possibility they were stopped for health and safety reasons , if someone were to get ill after drinking urine then LP could've been sued, they are a business after all and like any business they would have to uphold a duty of care to those who work for them.That being said the girls do other things like atm,atogm which when you really think about it would be equally gross to have to do.

[Iddaoeeok]

I don't think you can get ill from drinking urine, from a healthy person, some people even think it's good for you! However I imagine it's difficult to persuade models to do it, there are some models on LP who really do not look like they are enjoying the experience one little bit.

[Cynewulf30]

I don't think you can get ill from drinking urine, from a healthy person, some people even think it's good for you! However I imagine it's difficult to persuade models to do it, there are some models on LP who really do not look like they are enjoying the experience one little bit.

Even if there is a chance of illness lawyers may put a halt to it, it may even contravene Czech laws.

[pastaga]

Pee is almost sterile.
Btw, pee content is shot in the US too (like here), not to mention latest publicdisgrace shots as well...
And yes, don't try to persuade a girl who say no, but there are some who are definitely curious about it :
http://yhivi.tumblr.com/post/1228948070 ... -your-anal

[shark1]

I look at the Amanda Paris scene tonight and think how awesome it would have been with pee too! She has done one piss scene already, and I would have paid 15 tickets for the scene released tonight with piss.

[Tastes Like Ass]

I don't know why everybody always looks at the legal side (fear of persecution) or the monetary aspect (do they sell as good as other scenes, visa or mastercard OK with this?)
when the human aspect is far more important. I mean, I don't know any person who would even consider doing something like being pissed upon one's body, even less on mouth... drink it? Forget it.

How does human capital even approach to this subject when they talk with the new recruits. Nightmare stuff.

I wonder if the girls ever cried after the scene was over. Not that I really want to know.

First, there are actually many girls in porn that don't mind being pissed on, or even enjoy it. To give a couple of examples from here at LP, Timea Antala said on her thread (although I think the post has since been deleted) that she enjoyed the piss scenes a lot, and according to XXX, Lucia Love actually requested to do more piss scenes (which is why they were shot even after the ban was in place). To give another example, Adriana Chechik said in a scene for Adriano that she enjoyed being pissed on in her personal life, and then, in the BTS of a Jay Sin video, she and Gabriella Paltrova pissed on the floor, and then slurped it up off the floor. I could give many other similar examples.

Second, do you really think that all the girls enjoy the other stuff that they do, like DAP? I would wager that most of them don't like it at all. In fact, while I have heard many girls say they were into piss in their personal life, I have never heard a single girl say she did DAP in her personal life. In fact, I have heard several girls that have done lots of anal scenes say that they never do anal in their personal life, which is a pretty good indication that they don't like it.

The bottom line is that porn is a job for these girls. No one expects a waitress or a secretary to enjoy every aspect of their job, so why should porn stars be any different? As long as the fans want to see it, and the girl is willing to do it, I don't see why it should matter whether she "really" enjoys it or not.

[gapefan]

In fact, while I have heard many girls say they were into piss in their personal life, I have never heard a single girl say she did DAP in her personal life.

Adriana Chechick has done more DAP and TAP off camera, than on

And she enjoys doing so

I know, because I asked her about it on her adultdvdtalk fan page, and that's what she said

Adriana Chechik's ADT Fan Page

Gape Fan- It really depends on the men, their cocks, and how they move. I tend to generally enjoy dap or tap which I have done more off camera than on. Stay tuned to my blog ill post a few pics later in the week. I just love feeling the stretched feeling at the same time I am so stuffed!

[pastaga]

I mean, I don't know any person who would even consider doing something like being pissed upon one's body, even less on mouth... drink it? Forget it.

<url removed> (camgirl and newly porn girl from the US)

[shark1]

I mean, I don't know any person who would even consider doing something like being pissed upon one's body, even less on mouth... drink it? Forget it.

You need to get out more :-) Many girls I have met in my personal life were into it, some very much so. Not all wanted to drink it, but I would say about half of them did. Some women are turned on by doing very naughty things, especially being forced in a role playing scenario. They like the humiliation aspect of it, some just enjoy it because it's dirty. Some pornstars have come out and said they love drinking piss as well - Amy Brooke and Maddy O'Reilly to name a few.

[shark1]

Another epic piss drinking scene with Rosella Visconti and Tina Hot! I hope there are still a lot more pissing scenes not yet released.

http://www.legalporno.com/watch/29546/t ... some_sz756

[tfk]

Timea Antala really enjoys pissing and swallowing piss
She does this when escorting as well

She also enjoys rough sex and being manhandled, so for me she is pretty much perfect

Too bad LP don't seem to wanna shoot more scenes with her

[Pissing]

Why is there a Piss ban ?
After reading and thinking everything over, I personally think that xxx does not wants LP to become to much associated with being a fetish porn site.
In other words: he wants to keep a more commercial route.
He does not wants to have to much kinky stuff, simply because xxx thinks that when LP gets a name of being a fetish/kinky site only, that this will scare people off.

[Sir Noel]

Perhaps, yet the recorded scenes are STILL being released months later.
Surely a couple of scenes per month would make sense. It seems as if just prior to the ban the vast majority of scenes included pissing.

[Pissing]

Perhaps, yet the recorded scenes are STILL being released months later.
Surely a couple of scenes per month would make sense. It seems as if just prior to the ban the vast majority of scenes included pissing.

Yes, he wants to release fetish/kinky stuff, but not as much anymore, like he said: He wants to "tone it down".
Legal issues can definitely be erased as a reason for the Piss ban: Max hardcore was convicted for just 4 DVD's...

The reason why xxx does not wants to inform us: the guys on the forum, is because he knows that we do not agree with him, and he simply has no appetite in having to defend his more commercial course to us.
It is all a very big pity... But I made my statement: I ended my membership...

[emsp187]

Keep the piss scenes coming! Every time a new piss scene is released, it quickly jumps to the top of the list for most popular. These people that complain about piss scenes are obviously in the minority, they just complain the most. This is a HARDCORE porn website. If you don't like hardcore shit, go somewhere else. That is your choice. No one is forcing you to be here.

[Tastes Like Ass]

Adriana Chechick has done more DAP and TAP off camera, than on

And she enjoys doing so

So, she enjoys both extreme penetrations and piss in her personal life. I'm not too surprised. She's a certified Super Freak!

[gapefan]

I never said she wasn't a Super Freak

She most certainly is, in the best way possible!

You said you'd never heard a single girl say she did DAP in her personal life

I gave you a prime example

[chrisssj2]

I hope well get some new scenes now and then..!

[shark1]

No pee scene this week or last :-(